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fuzzy butt;1093081 wrote: We had suicides when the drought got really bad here ...........I'm still amazed that no one knows about Australias drought ...................but anyway, we have them all the time, they are gonna happen....but for what cause? and what result? taking out your own family is just an extension of greed and pocession



suicide: a permenant solution to a temporary problem.


We're getting them here all the time,

ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST... AND ANOTHER ONE GONE.. AND ANOTHER ONE GONE

We just had the funerals of a guy who went tits up owing millions. Problem is, before he had the decency to kill himself, he shot his 15 yr old kid in the back of the head, then shot his wife, then the horses in the stables and the dogs.

BASTARD

Scrat;1093159 wrote: Here it is.

Murder-Suicide in California: A Tragedy of the Financial Crisis? - TIME

And isn't Australia always in a drought? What's that big red spot in the middle of the continent anyway?


This is very similar to the guy we had here who killed his family. I have the utmost sympathy for the family but not him.

We are getting a few like this here and these people have no-one to blame but themselves. Credit crunch, economy meltdown etc etc are all words to blame something or some-one else but themselves.

If people like this did not get into so much debt that was beyond their means in the first place, they could ride the job loss and down-turn in the economy. They invest badly, buy houses totally beyond their means on massive mortgages and then when it goes tit's up, blow the family away.

I'm not sure about California but here, there is plenty of work even dispite business's going under. The truth is, these people won't serve frie's in McD's to save themselves. they want bailout from the government.

I hope at least they bury the arssehole miles away from the family he murdered.

P.S. Happy christmas Scrat

Thank you for solving our problems Scrat. Happy Christmas!

I feel uncomfortable criticizing anyone who kills themselves in these circumstances. Who can tell what pressure this man felt under to recoup his investors enormous losses. He didn't hurt anyone else so its just a tragedy, no one really thinks money is worth dying for, but there are emotions linked around money that can make people completely lose perspective. I would imagine in this case the despair and guilt of losing other peoples money overwhelmed this man's capacity to rationalize what has happened. In any case for his friends and family its a tragedy.

In any case, this is the first direct case of someone who is dead because of Madoff. I am quite sure there will be a few more suicides, certainly indirectly, or at the end of a process of the destitution of many many people (not all rich by the way, which shouldn't matter anyway, as just because your rich that doesn't mean you deserve to be conned) a lot of small people are going to get wiped out in this as many banks and pension funds are involved. This one man has probably destroyed the lives and well being of thousands, though it won't be immeadiately apparent.

I really hope he and his associates get their come-uppins as they are so well earned. What a complete b*st*rd. There are other fraudsters coming to light now as well, because of course the sea is going out and we can now see who has been swimming naked, this is probably the biggest of the lot, at least I hope so.

Galbally;1093371 wrote: I feel uncomfortable criticizing anyone who kills themselves in these circumstances. Who can tell what pressure this man felt under to recoup his investors enormous losses. He didn't hurt anyone else so its just a tragedy, no one really thinks money is worth dying for, but there are emotions linked around money that can make people completely lose perspective. I would imagine in this case the despair and guilt of losing other peoples money overwhelmed this man's capacity to rationalize what has happened. In any case for his friends and family its a tragedy.

In any case, this is the first direct case of someone who is dead because of Madoff. I am quite sure there will be a few more suicides, certainly indirectly, or at the end of a process of the destitution of many many people (not all rich by the way, which shouldn't matter anyway, as just because your rich that doesn't mean you deserve to be conned) a lot of small people are going to get wiped out in this as many banks and pension funds are involved. This one man has probably destroyed the lives and well being of thousands, though it won't be immeadiately apparent.

I really hope he and his associates get their come-uppins as they are so well earned. What a complete b*st*rd. There are other fraudsters coming to light now as well, because of course the sea is going out and we can now see who has been swimming naked, this is probably the biggest of the lot, at least I hope so.


One of the biggest fraudster's this country ever saw was Robert Maxwell. Investors didn't blow themselves away because he lost their money for them. they got other lower paid jobs and got on with it.

This centre's around people who can see no life than one without material assets and luxerie's. As i said earlier, they won't go and fry chips in mcD's will they?