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Probe shows Tories "in the pocket" of bankers - Exclusive - mirror.co.uk

I think there's a case that political parties can only be funded by membership subscription. Haven't a clue as to how it would work. Might make them sit up and listen. Depressing reality is both main parties cannot handle their own finances never mind anyone else's. Labour are bankrupt as well.

gmc;1137435 wrote: I think there's a case that political parties can only be funded by membership subscription. Haven't a clue as to how it would work. Might make them sit up and listen. Depressing reality is both main parties cannot handle their own finances never mind anyone else's. Labour are bankrupt as well.


This didn't come as a shock to me as i've always believed Cameron has been a little quiet on the banking front. Although, there was an article saying he would cap chiefs bonuses to £2000.

I have always paid my subscription to the Labour Party through direct debit monthly out of my wages. That's how it should be...... each party reliable only on public membership. That's the Lib Dems skint though.

Cameron is a bloody hypocrite for this to come out now......He's no better than any of them and this could cost him dear in the Election.

oscar;1137816 wrote: This didn't come as a shock to me as i've always believed Cameron has been a little quiet on the banking front. Although, there was an article saying he would cap chiefs bonuses to £2000.

I have always paid my subscription to the Labour Party through direct debit monthly out of my wages. That's how it should be...... each party reliable only on public membership. That's the Lib Dems skint though.

Cameron is a bloody hypocrite for this to come out now......He's no better than any of them and this could cost him dear in the Election.


I hate to say it, but the entire political establishment has been in hock to high finance, banks, and "markets" for many years now. Governments don't decide any more, "markets" do, we suit our national policies to keep the "markets" happy, as if kow-towing to speculators and investors was of more primacy than maintaining the lives of ordinary citizens.

The biggest story today was that "the market" didn't like the US Presidents plan, and this was reported as a bad thing, as if what the "market" thinks on one day, is more important that government policy of elected leaders. That shows you who is really in charge. We are so absorbed in an ideology that we don't even see that it is an "ideology" any more. Maggie and Keith Joseph got that going, so yeah that was the tories, though Labour bought into it probably just as much as the tories did.

British capitalism was always pragmatic (which is the general nature of British people) as opposed to ideological (which is how the Americans are about Capitalism) in the 20th century, but we have just lived through what will be seen as a very ideological age over here as well, run via the pronouncements of right-wing economists, big business, high finance, media organizations, and compliant governments.

That's why its so hard for most of the people at the top of business and governments to get their heads around the fact that the entire ideology is broken, just like the polit beureau couldn't understand that the problem in Russia in 1989-91 was them, and their ideology, and that it was doomed. I think your actually going to see some very radical changes in politics in the next few years, certainly parties will not all be clamouring around a neoliberal "centrist' position anymore.

Galbally;1138210 wrote: I hate to say it, but the entire political establishment has been in hock to high finance, banks, and "markets" for many years now. Governments don't decide any more, "markets" do, we suit our national policies to keep the "markets" happy, as if kow-towing to speculators and investors was of more primacy than maintaining the lives of ordinary citizens.

The biggest story today was that "the market" didn't like the US Presidents plan, and this was reported as a bad thing, as if what the "market" thinks on one day, is more important that government policy of elected leaders. That shows you who is really in charge. We are so absorbed in an ideology that we don't even see that it is an "ideology" any more. Maggie and Keith Joseph got that going, so yeah that was the tories, though Labour bought into it probably just as much as the tories did.

British capitalism was always pragmatic (which is the general nature of British people) as opposed to ideological (which is how the Americans are about Capitalism) in the 20th century, but we have just lived through what will be seen as a very ideological age over here as well, run via the pronouncements of right-wing economists, big business, high finance, media organizations, and compliant governments.

That's why its so hard for most of the people at the top of business and governments to get their heads around the fact that the entire ideology is broken, just like the polit beureau couldn't understand that the problem in Russia in 1989-91 was them, and their ideology, and that it was doomed. I think your actually going to see some very radical changes in politics in the next few years, certainly parties will not all be clamouring around a neoliberal "centrist' position anymore.


What has been happening has nothing to do with liberal or centrist politics-it's naked right wing monetarist fascism. The argument between right and left hasn't stopped and probably never will.