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I was reading the last post in coberst 's thread Empathy: What does ever dog owner know . And figured I'd see what came up if I googled a few of what IMO seemed to be some keywords. Here's the words and the exact way I googled them Freud,hypnosis,hitler,germany .

If the quotes from Freud that coberst posted in his empathy thread are in fact the way Hitler was able to 'brain wash ' German people. His theory may be put to the test now with President Obama. I have copy and pasted the first post from the 'godlike productions ' forum.

A link to same forum is at the end of this 'post'.





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Geode nli

Obama Uses Hypnosis Like Hitler!!!



link to www.pennypresslv.com



I am an NLP trainer and have studied with its founder Richard Bandler, as well as one of the leading Neuro Linguistic Programming trainers in the world, Anthony Robbins.



I have observed Obama using most of the tricks in the bag for manipulative purposes. I feel that he is a dangerous manipulator and hypnotist able to affect mass audiences from the stage. He uses Ericksonian hypnotic techniques quite expertly and effectively. The above linked article is quite exceptional in its analysis, and although long it is really worth it.



It is critical to get the word out about the hypnotic trance techniques that Obama has been inducing subconcious control over audiences with all across the country! Once one has been made aware of the hypnotic trance that has been installed, it loses most of its emotional control over ones mental processes, attitudes, and emotional responses to Obama in the future.



We who are concerned about Obama-the-"Messiah" should become conversant with these mental/emotional control mechanisms as described in the article. NLP and hypnosis can be used for very positive results in healing and relationship contexts, but can also be used for dark and nefarious manipulation, and nearly total control over others to take advantage of them. Read the above link and see what you think. It's pretty obvious, once armed with the data, how extensively he uses them, once educated and you see him in action.



Obama fanatics(like Pollyannuh) should most definitely read the article, which will enable them to undo the hypnotic inductions and controls that have been installed. If they still want to vote for him after reading it, at least it's more likely to be based upon their viewpoints aligning VS TRANCE-DUCTION emotionally controlling their feeling and attitudes!!! Spread the word!!!



http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum ... 641749/pg1



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Link to google hits from the 4 words I googled



Freud,hypnosis,,hitler, germany - Google Search

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Definition of Neuro Linguistic Programming



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-ling ... ogrammingI







There seems to be just enough of what is factual ,like them people that are being called 'obamanites' or the ones that started that BS

'Obama-the-"Messiah' , in this guys thread to make some kind of sense of why some people seem to be worshiping Obama. :-2 :-3 As strange as this all sounds it's the closet it comes the closet I have found to the nutty way some people are talking and acting about our 44th president elect.

scholle-kid;1154241 wrote: I have copy and pasted the first post from the 'godlike productions ' forum.

A link to same forum is at the end of this 'post'.




I copied and pasted the banner from the "Godlike Productions" forum.

I think the "Geode nli" post fits nicely in their "lunatic fringe" category.

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scholle kid: I did notice that about two comments below the one you posted was a comment saying that the USA was going to turn into a dictatorship because Obama was a black man and black men always turn into dictators....:rolleyes:

Do you think the writer of that comment had even heard of Nelson Mandela?

I can't say I understand US party politics, but I am starting to wonder how long it's going to be before you've found a way to claim that Obama is, in fact, the devil!;)

Just because a person suffers from paranoia does not necessarily mean that someone is not after him. :yh_glasse

I am continually amazed by the lengths some posters go to to denigrate politicians they don't care for.



(Realisation .... denigrate... blacken.... GEESCH... )

[QUOTE=Clodhopper;1154453]scholle kid: I did notice that about two comments below the one you posted was a comment saying that the USA was going to turn into a dictatorship because Obama was a black man and black men always turn into dictators....:rolleyes:

Do you think the writer of that comment had even heard of Nelson Mandela?

I can't say I understand US party politics, but I am starting to wonder how long it's going to be before you've found a way to claim that Obama is, in fact, the devil!;)[/QUOTE] You mean he isn't? ;);)

AussiePam: I'm not having a go at scholle kid, really. She's clearly politically engaged as a Republican and I am genuinely wary about criticising a society I only have a superficial knowledge of. I'm getting some impression, tentative and insubstantial as yet, of US political culture at the grassroots level. It's not the way we do things on this side of the pond, and it's fascinating to get these glimpses of another culture so similar and so different to my own. I have a similar experience with reading the Aussie posts, but I am more familiar with your culture having visited Australia and because we are just more closely related, if I can put it that way.

scholle kid: Please correct me if I'm getting the wrong end of the stick here.

Clodhopper;1154644 wrote: AussiePam: I'm not having a go at school kid, really. She's clearly politically engaged as a Republican and I am genuinely wary about criticising a society I only have a superficial knowledge of. I'm getting some impression, tentative and insubstantial as yet, of US political culture at the grassroots level. It's not the way we do things on this side of the pond, and it's fascinating to get these glimpses of another culture so similar and so different to my own. I have a similar experience with reading the Aussie posts, but I am more familiar with your culture having visited Australia and because we are just more closely related, if I can put it that way.



scholle kid: Please correct me if I'm getting the wrong end of the stick here.
Actually I'm not 'engaged ' as a part of either party . I'm glad Bush's run a muck has ended and I'm hoping Obama does at least some of what he says he will. If you read to the bottom of my OP I mentioned "As strange as this all sounds it's the closet it comes the closet I have found to the nutty way some people are talking and acting about our 44th president elect. " . Wow I just noticed my typo/spelling ,,,I meant to say , this guys explanation as to why some people have put Obama on a 'God like' pedestal is the only explanation I heard that kind of makes sense.

I'll bet you know more about American politics than I do about 'across the pond politics, but from what I have seen and read the only difference in the way the politicians act and promise things and the way the people talk about the politics is the accents .

Clodhopper;1154644 wrote: AussiePam: I'm not having a go at scholle kid, really. She's clearly politically engaged as a Republican and I am genuinely wary about criticising a society I only have a superficial knowledge of. I'm getting some impression, tentative and insubstantial as yet, of US political culture at the grassroots level. It's not the way we do things on this side of the pond, and it's fascinating to get these glimpses of another culture so similar and so different to my own. I have a similar experience with reading the Aussie posts, but I am more familiar with your culture having visited Australia and because we are just more closely related, if I can put it that way.

scholle kid: Please correct me if I'm getting the wrong end of the stick here.


:wah: Your having a giraffe arn't you Clod?

British politicians and their spin doctors are the nastiest most evil bunch of them all. Wait until nearer the general election and watch Cameron's Mr Nice guy image fade into obscurity.

Clodhopper;1154453 wrote: scholle kid: I did notice that about two comments below the one you posted was a comment saying that the USA was going to turn into a dictatorship because Obama was a black man and black men always turn into dictators....:rolleyes:



Do you think the writer of that comment had even heard of Nelson Mandela?



I can't say I understand US party politics, but I am starting to wonder how long it's going to be before you've found a way to claim that Obama is, in fact, the devil!;)




Since you brought it up, I'm thinking with 'hindsight being 20/20' Bush may have been going for the 'dictatorship' like leader thing. And if I don't believe Obama could be 'the Messiah' how could I believe he could be 'the Devil' ? I'm thinking he is a male human being that has gotten his self elected president of the USA and I hope he is more of an American than a politician. And just so everyone is clear on what I mean by that, I hope he works harder for the good of the American people than he does for his self and his buddies.

scholle-kid;1154888 wrote: Since you brought it up, I'm thinking with 'hindsight being 20/20' Bush may have been going for the 'dictatorship' like leader thing. And if I don't believe Obama could be 'the Messiah' how could I believe he could be 'the Devil' ? I'm thinking he is a male human being that has gotten his self elected president of the USA and I hope he is more of an American than a politician. And just so everyone is clear on what I mean by that, I hope he works harder for the good of the American people than he does for his self and his buddies. Me too. I have never made any secret on this forum that i did not want Obama elected. I really do believe he can not deliver what he has promised. There is already rumoured to be 'In house fighting'. The Summit in Britain will be one to watch. Gordon Brown is to announce his 'plan' for a united banking regulation commitee. It seems most if not all EU countries will join it. If Obama wants to be the maverick and go it alone I see problems. Brown has already said he has no time for 'Protectionism' which is the way Obama seems to want to play it. I have always believed that long term, he won't and can not deliver. I predicted a very dissapointed America when he was elected. I hope I'm wrong. I hope he does deliver but i don't believe he can.

Accountable;1154458 wrote: Just because a person suffers from paranoia does not necessarily mean that someone is not after him. :yh_glasse




Excuuuuse me but that is my line !

And its...just because youre paranoid doesnt mean theyre not out to get you.

God !

Obama and Hitler do they use the same speaking Techniques ?


Cant he just be a really gifted speaker because he is speaking from the heart and leave it at that ?

Nomad;1154946 wrote: Excuuuuse me but that is my line !

And its...just because youre paranoid doesnt mean theyre not out to get you.

God !Somebody's out to get me? :-3

What have you heard? What have you heard??

If you look at any gifted orator there are similarities in techniques that they all use. You can actually be taught to be a good public speaker and some people have a natural gift that way in any case that make them stand out. You can draw the same parallels between churchill, hitler, roosevelt, mussolini, Lloyd George, Abraham Lincoln , Martin luther (count how many times he repeats the phrase I have a dream), nelson mandela. Look at JFK and Richard nixon one is rec-vered and the other despised and not just because of what they did but one had the ability to inspire the other didn't. All the presidents you revere and remember most were the ones that also had that ability.

It's the words and also the delivery that make a speech. It's the ones that can think on their feet as well that most impress us.

gmc;1155018 wrote: If you look at any gifted orator there are similarities in techniques that they all use. You can actually be taught to be a good public speaker and some people have a natural gift that way in any case that make them stand out. . Very True. When I made the big mistake of going on a nationa tv prog, how i spoke, never occured to me. I had a few minutes coaching in the green room, ended up talking completely differnt and everyone at home said how composed i was. I still use those techniques if i go on the radio again.

oscar;1155037 wrote: Very True. When I made the big mistake of going on a nationa tv prog, how i spoke, never occured to me. I had a few minutes coaching in the green room, ended up talking completely differnt and everyone at home said how composed i was. I still use those techniques if i go on the radio again.


Look at the hand gestures the politicians use. they've clearly been coached in how to keep their hand gestures under control so they don't give away when they are lying and know they are. The fingertips together in a steeple to show sincerity, the open hand gesture to kid on they're being honest and open. It's so obviously false and learned you can almost see hem thinking-look sincere open hand gesture, look thoughtful hand together, hands clasped together to show passion, don't cover your mouth when you're lying-(dead give away). watch the head gestures they can't control them, if they're asked a question that requires yes or no answer they nod or shake their head with the correct answer unless they've become adept at hiding the truth like tony blair or gordon brown (actually forget gordon brown, he has just convinced himself he's a superhero and not the incompetent moron he is in reality. )

BBC NEWS | VOTE2001 | You've got to hand it to them...

Headlines on Human Hands: Hand gestures: some tricks from politicians

Interpreting Political Sleight of Hand: Hand Gesture Expert Available at Colgate University - Colgate University

gmc;1155387 wrote: Look at the hand gestures the politicians use. they've clearly been coached in how to keep their hand gestures under control so they don't give away when they are lying and know they are. The fingertips together in a steeple to show sincerity, the open hand gesture to kid on they're being honest and open. It's so obviously false and learned you can almost see hem thinking-look sincere open hand gesture, look thoughtful hand together, hands clasped together to show passion, don't cover your mouth when you're lying-(dead give away). watch the head gestures they can't control them, if they're asked a question that requires yes or no answer they nod or shake their head with the correct answer unless they've become adept at hiding the truth like tony blair or gordon brown (actually forget gordon brown, he has just convinced himself he's a superhero and not the incompetent moron he is in reality. )

BBC NEWS | VOTE2001 | You've got to hand it to them...

Headlines on Human Hands: Hand gestures: some tricks from politicians

Interpreting Political Sleight of Hand: Hand Gesture Expert Available at Colgate University - Colgate University Thanks for these links. Very interesting my auld yin. I recognise a few i was given. Alot of them, i knew as my father was very astute with body language and could spot a wrong one a mile off. I picked alot up frim him. Ironically, in my trial as each youth gave evidence, in the breaks, my bro was saying 'that one's lying through his back teeth' 'That one wouldn't make eye contact, that was was fiddling, that one was covering his mouth with his hand etc and then the arresting officer gave evidence and we had a ball with her :yh_rotfl Wouldn't look at my lawyer or the judge, shuffled, fiddled, looked down at the floor, gulped water..... oh it was fun and i stared her in the face right the way through.

My favourite hand gesture has to be 'Deborah Meadon' from Dragon's Den', that whole hand point movement to stress a point.

Gordoness Lushiouness doesn't have to put it on, he's just truthful at all times. :rolleyes: