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If I think someone in the Garden is behaving extremely stupidly, am I allowed to say so?

E.g.: "I think that you are behaving extremely stupidly".



If not, what *am* I allowed to say?

Bill Sikes;1164392 wrote: If I think someone in the Garden is behaving extremely stupidly, am I allowed to say so?

E.g.: "I think that you are behaving extremely stupidly".



If not, what *am* I allowed to say?


Personally, rather than criticism on an open board, just pm them.

You can say anything you want as long as it's not insulting or rude, I'm not sure if we ever really decided if stupid was a term that qualified or not. hold on a second I'll go check the rules!

Hope6;1164429 wrote: You can say anything you want as long as it's not insulting or rude, I'm not sure if we ever really decided if stupid was a term that qualified or not. hold on a second I'll go check the rules!


I'd be really upset and feel degraded if anyone called me stupid.

okay here's the rule.

No "Flaming": Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest.

now the question would be, would the person who was called stupid feel they were being insulted or belittled and if they did and reported the post, then we would have to act on it.

Odie;1164431 wrote: I'd be really upset and feel degraded if anyone called me stupid.


i would too honey!

Hope6;1164432 wrote: okay here's the rule.

No "Flaming": Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest.

now the question would be, would the person who was called stupid feel they were being insulted or belittled and if they did and reported the post, then we would have to act on it.


The thing is, though, I would not, putatively, be saying "You are stupid". I would be saying ""I think that you are behaving extremely stupidly".



As an aside, I have a great big problem with the rule you quote - it can be used, even in a quite unjustifiable manner, to attack almost anyone who posts almost any criticism of anyone else.

Just substitute ridiculous for stupid. Works every time. I'll know what you mean.

Bill Sikes;1164438 wrote: The thing is, though, I would not, putatively, be saying "You are stupid". I would be saying ""I think that you are behaving extremely stupidly".



As an aside, I have a great big problem with the rule you quote - it can be used, even in a quite unjustifiable manner, to attack almost anyone who posts almost any criticism of anyone else.


we basically leave it to the members, if they feel they have been insulted or belittled, they report it and we then look into it, if the person in question lets its slide, so to speak, then thats there choice.

Bill Sikes;1164438 wrote: The thing is, though, I would not, putatively, be saying "You are stupid". I would be saying ""I think that you are behaving extremely stupidly".



As an aside, I have a great big problem with the rule you quote - it can be used, even in a quite unjustifiable manner, to attack almost anyone who posts almost any criticism of anyone else.


I would anticipate that using the word stupid to describe someone's suggestion or idea or thought is quite legitimate on FG. A post can certainly contain stupidity or express stupid notions. They're all criticisms of a post's content, they're not in any sense descriptions of a poster. The distinction needs to be plainly made though, to avoid confusion.

Bloody stupid question, given the terms and conditions you signed up to.

For some reason criticizing someone's grammar or spelling is competely disallowed.

YZGI;1164439 wrote: Just substitute ridiculous for stupid. Works every time. I'll know what you mean.


Are you the person in question here YZGI? :yh_rotfl

Bill Sikes;1164438 wrote: The thing is, though, I would not, putatively, be saying "You are stupid". I would be saying ""I think that you are behaving extremely stupidly".



As an aside, I have a great big problem with the rule you quote - it can be used, even in a quite unjustifiable manner, to attack almost anyone who posts almost any criticism of anyone else.


yep i think to say someone is behaving stupidly is a different thing to saying someone is actually stupid:D

why do you ask? and as odie said can you not just pm them instead?

also if you did pm them would that still be seen as flaming if the person reported you?

Why is it important to you to actually say it,, to state it pubicly i mean isntead of just thinking it, tutting, shaking your head and going off to find a thread where no one is being stupid:D

Bill Sikes;1164392 wrote: If I think someone in the Garden is behaving extremely stupidly, am I allowed to say so?

E.g.: "I think that you are behaving extremely stupidly".



If not, what *am* I allowed to say? Have you ever read threads and posts between myself, gmc, Chookie and galbally? :wah: Positively and downright insulting. We get away with it because we respect each other and hold a tad of affection for each other. If you have that with fellow members, they have no need to feel insulted. We know it is just opposing views and critisism. Nothing is ever taken personally, well except for when a I called galbally a Leprechaun but then he did call me a Daily Mail reading Knob head. :wah:

spot;1164445 wrote: I would anticipate that using the word stupid to describe someone's suggestion or idea or thought is quite legitimate on FG. A post can certainly contain stupidity or express stupid notions. They're all criticisms of a post's content, they're not in any sense descriptions of a poster. The distinction needs to be plainly made though, to avoid confusion.

Bloody stupid question, given the terms and conditions you signed up to.

For some reason criticizing someone's grammar or spelling is competely disallowed.


thank you for clarifying that Spot.

yes saying a person post is stupid is not the same as calling the poster stupid, as long as its clear thats what you meant, I don't see a problem..........unless like i said before, the person reports it themselves.

Hope6;1164446 wrote: Are you the person in question here YZGI? :yh_rotfl
There is a high possibility I reckon.

OK, what did I do this time.................:rolleyes:







Seriously though, telling someone that their behaviour is stupid is completely different from calling someone stupid, and if the person in question couldn't see that then perhaps they are................

kazalala;1164447 wrote: yep i think to say someone is behaving stupidly is a different thing to saying someone is actually stupid:D

why do you ask? and as odie said can you not just pm them instead?

also if you did pm them would that still be seen as flaming if the person reported you?

Why is it important to you to actually say it,, to state it pubicly i mean isntead of just thinking it, tutting, shaking your head and going off to find a thread where no one is being stupid:D


you're right Kaz, pms can be reported too.

spot;1164445 wrote: I would anticipate that using the word stupid to describe someone's suggestion or idea or thought is quite legitimate on FG. A post can certainly contain stupidity or express stupid notions. They're all criticisms of a post's content, they're not in any sense descriptions of a poster. The distinction needs to be plainly made though, to avoid confusion.



Bloody stupid question, given the terms and conditions you signed up to.



For some reason criticizing someone's grammar or spelling is competely disallowed.
My last post was just for you Spot.;)

YZGI;1164451 wrote: There is a high possibility I reckon.


:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl.............sorry! .........(((HUG)))

YZGI;1164451 wrote: There is a high possibility I reckon.


oh c'mon, your not stupid!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Personally speaking .... if someone had a problem with something I said, I'd prefer them not to put it on the boards for all and sundry to rip to shreads.

A PM would be much more appreciated.

OK ... I'm shutting up now

Odie;1164471 wrote: oh c'mon, your not stupid!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
Hmmm, does sarcasm count. I will have to read through the TOS. Okay I lied I ain't reading nothin..:sneaky:

YZGI;1164477 wrote: Hmmm, does sarcasm count. I will have to read through the TOS. Okay I lied I ain't reading nothin..:sneaky:


:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

pinkchick;1164476 wrote: Personally speaking .... if someone had a problem with something I said, I'd prefer them not to put it on the boards for all and sundry to rip to shreads.

A PM would be much more appreciated.

OK ... I'm shutting up now


you're right honey, a pm would be the better way to go.

pinkchick;1164476 wrote: Personally speaking .... if someone had a problem with something I said, I'd prefer them not to put it on the boards for all and sundry to rip to shreads.

A PM would be much more appreciated.

OK ... I'm shutting up now


I said that to, why would someone rip someone to shreads in a thread anyway?:-5:-5

Hope6;1164500 wrote: you're right honey, a pm would be the better way to go.


It's not always applicable. If someone's part-way through a discussion and something ridiculous is put forward in public it can scarcely be left there unchallenged.

the haunting of post # 47 has returned...dun dun dun....

Bill Sikes;1164392 wrote: If I think someone in the Garden is behaving extremely stupidly, am I allowed to say so?



E.g.: "I think that you are behaving extremely stupidly".





If not, what *am* I allowed to say?




Extremely stupidly?????????

Bill Sikes;1164392 wrote: If I think someone in the Garden is behaving extremely stupidly, am I allowed to say so?

E.g.: "I think that you are behaving extremely stupidly".



If not, what *am* I allowed to say?


Bill, don't worry about the comment. SOMEONE has poor grammar.

Bill Sikes;1164392 wrote: If I think someone in the Garden is behaving extremely stupidly, am I allowed to say so?



E.g.: "I think that you are behaving extremely stupidly".





If not, what *am* I allowed to say?


Lets just get it over with. Go on...

TheNewDG;1164568 wrote: the haunting of post # 47 has returned...dun dun dun....




Wow ! Maybe hes talking about you ! :-6

I cant even believe you brought #47 up again.

Nomad;1164663 wrote: Wow ! Maybe hes talking about you ! :-6

I cant even believe you brought #47 up again.


some things just stick.

and there was absolutely nothing wrong in post #47!

Odie;1164664 wrote: some things just stick.



and there was absolutely nothing wrong in post #47!




I refuse to even utter the numbers.

I've worked out what I'm going to say if someone pisses me off enough so I have to say something.....I'll say " You're very knowledgeable, like an idiot sauvant, but without the sauvant bit " What do you think? I like it!

dubs;1164696 wrote: I've worked out what I'm going to say if someone pisses me off enough so I have to say something.....I'll say " You're very knowledgeable, like an idiot sauvant, but without the sauvant bit " What do you think? I like it!


:yh_rotfl

dubs;1164696 wrote: I've worked out what I'm going to say if someone pisses me off enough so I have to say something.....I'll say " You're very knowledgeable, like an idiot sauvant, but without the sauvant bit " What do you think? I like it!


Some of my best work came when a young punk in a Civic :rolleyes: ripped out from behind me, passed me on the shoulder then had to slam his brakes on to avoid smashing into a car.

We ended up at the red light nose to nose with both of our windows down. I calmly proceeded to explain to him that due to his young age his frontal lobe was still in the developmental stage and couldnt really be held accountable for his stupidity. He kinda just stared at me.

Then the light turned green.

It was a "10" moment for me.

All this reminds me of my husband and I. We have some pretty outrageous debates. When I'm being bitchy, he'll say, "Darling, you're behaving like a bitch, and that just isn't like you...." Yeah right. LOL.

And I'll say, "And you, my dear, are acting like an *******."

In the end, we didn't actually call each other a bad name, we called the behavior bad, and that's something you can get away with. I love it. :sneaky:

I'd just mumble fubar!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

dubs;1164696 wrote: I've worked out what I'm going to say if someone pisses me off enough so I have to say something.....I'll say " You're very knowledgeable, like an idiot sauvant, but without the sauvant bit " What do you think? I like it!


:yh_worshp:yh_worshp Brilliant



Nomad;1164707 wrote: Some of my best work came when a young punk in a Civic :rolleyes: ripped out from behind me, passed me on the shoulder then had to slam his brakes on to avoid smashing into a car.

We ended up at the red light nose to nose with both of our windows down. I calmly proceeded to explain to him that due to his young age his frontal lobe was still in the developmental stage and couldnt really be held accountable for his stupidity. He kinda just stared at me.

Then the light turned green.

It was a "10" moment for me.


That would have felt sooooo good!