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I live in a narrow lane and on thursday, a young black man came out of the entrance of the field outside my house straight into the path of a neighbours car who thank god was only doing approx 20 mph and thank god it wasn't a kid.

The front of the bike was mangled as was the front of the neighbours car. I went out to find the young man in a state of shock. He had come off the bike, slid across the gravel and taken the skin off his legs as well as having a nasty cut to the knee.

I offered to call an ambulance but he said he was fine although bleeding badly from the knee. I went in the house and got spray disenfectant and bandages and patched him up while Mr O called his mum to come and get him.

I just didn't think about anything when i was mopping his blood up but when i mentioned it to my Doc yesterday, he insisted i make an appointment for blood tests.

I'm quite worried now :(:(

oscar;1198909 wrote: I live in a narrow lane and on thursday, a young black man came out of the entrance of the field outside my house straight into the path of a neighbours car who thank god was only doing approx 20 mph and thank god it wasn't a kid.

The front of the bike was mangled as was the front of the neighbours car. I went out to find the young man in a state of shock. He had come off the bike, slid across the gravel and taken the skin off his legs as well as having a nasty cut to the knee.

I offered to call an ambulance but he said he was fine although bleeding badly from the knee. I went in the house and got spray disenfectant and bandages and patched him up while Mr O called his mum to come and get him.

I just didn't think about anything when i was mopping his blood up but when i mentioned it to my Doc yesterday, he insisted i make an appointment for blood tests.

I'm quite worried now :(:(


These days Oscar...just go get checked just in case. I doubt anything will come of it.

qsducks;1198911 wrote: These days Oscar...just go get checked just in case. I doubt anything will come of it.
Thanks..... It just never occurred to me but now the Doc has been talking about Hepititis etc, i'm quite worried. he seemed a very normal young man to me.

oscar;1198920 wrote: Thanks..... It just never occurred to me but now the Doc has been talking about Hepititis etc, i'm quite worried. he seemed a very normal young man to me.


As long as you don't have any open cuts on your hands, etc. I think you will be fine.

qsducks;1198922 wrote: As long as you don't have any open cuts on your hands, etc. I think you will be fine. I did have a nick on my hand and that's why i'm now worried. I pruned the shrubs at the weekend and got scratched every where :(

You need to get blood work done just to be safe. Next time have surgical gloves you can put on. Great that you helped the young man, but protect yourself next time.

oscar;1198926 wrote: I did have a nick on my hand and that's why i'm now worried. I pruned the shrubs at the weekend and got scratched every where :(


See, you should have been mopping my floor & taken a tumble instead...then you would just have a sore wrist..& bum...no cuts. Go get it taken care of.:wah:

CARLA;1198927 wrote: You need to get blood work done just to be safe. Next time have surgical gloves you can put on. Great that you helped the young man, but protect yourself next time. Thanks Carla...... I do have surgical gloves in the house for when i deal with injured foxes but i just didn't think.

qsducks;1198930 wrote: See, you should have been mopping my floor & taken a tumble instead...then you would just have a sore wrist..& bum...no cuts. Go get it taken care of.:wah: I'm just about to mop my own floors after puppy has brought in compost and snails from the garden :wah: I will get the bloods done with the nurse tomorrow at the health centre and then bite my nails for a week waiting for the results. I hope it's not anthrax. :wah:

qsducks;1198922 wrote: As long as you don't have any open cuts on your hands, etc. I think you will be fine. OMG...... what if he votes Conservative and that gets in my blood :wah:

oscar;1198935 wrote: Thanks Carla...... I do have surgical gloves in the house for when i deal with injured foxes but i just didn't think.
I hope you are ok Oscar. It is hard to think of all the things you should do when it is an emergency.

Sunshine;1199010 wrote: I hope you are ok Oscar. It is hard to think of all the things you should do when it is an emergency. Thankyou...... yes, you see some-one injured and distressed and you just don't think do you?

oscar;1198937 wrote: OMG...... what if he votes Conservative and that gets in my blood :wah:


then you would have been bitten:wah:

Sunshine;1199010 wrote: I hope you are ok Oscar. It is hard to think of all the things you should do when it is an emergency.


Nobody ever thinks do they...we aren't paramedics by nature..I think they practically live in those gloves.

oscar;1198909 wrote: Am i worrying needlessly?


Yup.

Bill Sikes;1199034 wrote: Yup.
Ta :wah:

I know that having had a son, always a cut or something needing a bandage and cleaning up, I never thought about the blood issue. If it is bleeding wash it and fix it. Never a thought to anything I might get from the blood. Moms just fix the boo boo and continue on.

Bill Sikes;1199034 wrote: Yup.
Hang on a minute...... what if he's a member of the Lib Dems? Will i catch it and awake one morning to find an over-whelming urge to wear cordroy, leather patches on my elbows and call everyone 'my friend', even begin to extol the virtue's of Vince Cable? :yh_sick:yh_sick:yh_sick

Do you live on a film set for Die Hard ? More goes on up your lane ( no thats not a euphamism ) than in an average city centre.

oscar;1199039 wrote: Hang on a minute...... what if he's a member of the Lib Dems? Will i catch it and awake one morning to find an over-whelming urge to wear cordroy, leather patches on my elbows and call everyone 'my friend', even begin to extol the virtue's of Vince Cable? :yh_sick:yh_sick:yh_sick


Might do you a bit of good. Nothing wrong with old Vince. He seems to know more about the economy than anybody else - and before anybody else

Snowfire;1199040 wrote: Do you live on a film set for Die Hard ? More goes on up your lane ( no thats not a euphamism ) than in an average city centre. My lane that goes up our rear entrance (no that's not a euphamism) see's more action than a busy highway. It is a constant source of entertainment. Some woman even managed to smash into the front of my car whilst it was in the drive down here. Perhaps i should start a journal called ' My lane and daily events'. :wah:

oscar;1199045 wrote: My lane that goes up our rear entrance (no that's not a euphamism) see's more action than a busy highway. It is a constant source of entertainment. Some woman even managed to smash into the front of my car whilst it was in the drive down here. Perhaps i should start a journal called ' My lane and daily events'. :wah:


You can start that in the Forum Garden Hotel....I guess it's too late for peroxide for you?

Its the Needles I'm worried about.

My SIL works at a hospital and has had 3 or 4 needle sticks they alway have to do blood tests but she has always been lucky.

I doubt you are really at risk but theres no harm in checking.

Victoria;1199089 wrote: My SIL works at a hospital and has had 3 or 4 needle sticks they alway have to do blood tests but she has always been lucky.

I doubt you are really at risk but theres no harm in checking. Thankyou Victoria..... Do they check for swine flu, anthrax, foot and mouth, bird flu etc while they are there?

I don't mind the needles....... infact i enjoy a large prick :sneaky::sneaky:

oscar;1199098 wrote: Thankyou Victoria..... Do they check for swine flu, anthrax, foot and mouth, bird flu etc while they are there?

I don't mind the needles....... infact i enjoy a large prick :sneaky::sneaky:


:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl Love how you stuck that in there. :yh_rotfl

oscar;1198909 wrote: I live in a narrow lane and on thursday, a young black man came out of the entrance of the field outside my house straight into the path of a neighbours car who thank god was only doing approx 20 mph and thank god it wasn't a kid.

The front of the bike was mangled as was the front of the neighbours car. I went out to find the young man in a state of shock. He had come off the bike, slid across the gravel and taken the skin off his legs as well as having a nasty cut to the knee.

I offered to call an ambulance but he said he was fine although bleeding badly from the knee. I went in the house and got spray disenfectant and bandages and patched him up while Mr O called his mum to come and get him.

I just didn't think about anything when i was mopping his blood up but when i mentioned it to my Doc yesterday, he insisted i make an appointment for blood tests.

I'm quite worried now :(:(I have to ask, Why did you mention the colour of his skin?

abbey;1199161 wrote: I have to ask, Why did you mention the colour of his skin? Brcause he was black. I would have said 'a white guy' if he wasn't.

oscar;1199098 wrote: Thankyou Victoria..... Do they check for swine flu, anthrax, foot and mouth, bird flu etc while they are there?

I don't mind the needles....... infact i enjoy a large prick :sneaky::sneaky:


Are you sure you dont write carry on films??:wah:

Why do you want to check for anthrax and foot and mouth? just what was the young man doing in that field ?????;);)

If and I hope your ok but if youre not can I have Peter Lake ?

abbey;1199161 wrote: I have to ask, Why did you mention the colour of his skin?


oscar;1199268 wrote: Brcause he was black. I would have said 'a white guy' if he wasn't.
Not necessarily.

http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/gener ... perty.html



I was curious about the same thing, but had actually decided not to ask until I saw Abbs had beat me to it. I really think it's no more than a physical description, but it's interesting, nonetheless.

yes i agree with Accountable i think.

its funny it didnt even enter my head that oscar had said a young black man ,, the fact she said black i mean ,, i never noticed, however i did imagine in my mind a young black man crashed in the road and oscar helping:wah:

Abbey asking that question ,, first made me realise i had'nt even noticed, then made me think a bit about why had she said it,, again the same as accountable i thought well she was just describing the man, and i know some people would say, but if he was white you probably would not have said so but when i thought about it more ,, i have to say if it had happened to me its entirely possible i would have said a young black man:-3 and i dont know why:-3:o It is quite interesting innit:)

kazalala;1199482 wrote: yes i agree with Accountable i think.

its funny it didnt even enter my head that oscar had said a young black man ,, the fact she said black i mean ,, i never noticed, however i did imagine in my mind a young black man crashed in the road and oscar helping:wah:

Abbey asking that question ,, first made me realise i had'nt even noticed, then made me think a bit about why had she said it,, again the same as accountable i thought well she was just describing the man, and i know some people would say, but if he was white you probably would not have said so but when i thought about it more ,, i have to say if it had happened to me its entirely possible i would have said a young black man:-3 and i dont know why:-3:o It is quite interesting innit:)


I used to do this. I thought I was being descriptive but when I was asked if Id have said the same were he white I realized probably not.

So I consider myself educated and no longer describe persons by their color or nationality unless its pertinent to the story. Speaking for myself it was probably ignorance and am grateful for someone pointing it out to me.

Nomad;1199487 wrote: I used to do this. I thought I was being descriptive but when I was asked if Id have said said the same were he white I realized probably not.

So I consider myself educated and no longer describe persons by their color or nationality unless its pertinent to the story. Speaking for myself it was probably ignorance and am grateful for someone pointing it out to me.


yes i agree.. ignorance. i think i would say it ,, without thinking

kazalala;1199497 wrote: yes i agree.. ignorance. i think i would say it ,, without thinking Or maybe us BNP neo-nazi, fascist, rascist thugs have to point out these days that we do not leave young black men lying in the road injured and do nothing. :yh_rotfl No..... seriously..... if he'd been chinese, I would have said 'a young Chinese man' or if it had been a Thai man, i would have said that.

Really !!!!!!! You lot are so cynical :yh_rotfl

Victoria;1199431 wrote: Are you sure you dont write carry on films??:wah:

Why do you want to check for anthrax and foot and mouth? just what was the young man doing in that field ?????;);) The field has two entrances..... one at the top and one outside our house. Peeps use it as a short cut to get to the road next to us.

Nomad;1199465 wrote: If and I hope your ok but if youre not can I have Peter Lake ?
No...... I need him to do the dishes.

Originally Posted by Nomad

If and I hope your ok but if youre not can I have Peter Lake ?



oscar;1199528 wrote: No...... I need him to do the dishes.

oscar;1199526 wrote: Or maybe us BNP neo-nazi, fascist, rascist thugs have to point out these days that we do not leave young black men lying in the road injured and do nothing. :yh_rotfl No..... seriously..... if he'd been chinese, I would have said 'a young Chinese man' or if it had been a Thai man, i would have said that.

Really !!!!!!! You lot are so cynical :yh_rotfl


woops:yh_rotfl i didnt mean to be cynicla... it was just one of those thngs that made me think ,,, i didnt mean you are ignorant,, or even mean ignorance in a bad way,,, i just meant that i would probably have described him as a young black man as well.. and maybe that IS ignorance

you voted?:sneaky:

kazalala;1199563 wrote: woops:yh_rotfl i didnt mean to be cynicla... it was just one of those thngs that made me think ,,, i didnt mean you are ignorant,, or even mean ignorance in a bad way,,, i just meant that i would probably have described him as a young black man as well.. and maybe that IS ignorance

you voted?:sneaky:


YEP :sneaky::sneaky::sneaky:

Nomad;1199553 wrote: Originally Posted by Nomad

If and I hope your ok but if youre not can I have Peter Lake ?









That's not you...... the face is not alien.

oscar;1199634 wrote: That's not you...... the face is not alien.


But the hand is:wah:

oscar;1199633 wrote: YEP :sneaky::sneaky::sneaky:


me too:sneaky::D

my hubs wasnt going to bother ,, but i said he better or he aint allowed to moan about the governement or in fact hardly anything at all if he didnt use his vote:p i told him he could vote for anyone except the BNP or i would divorce him:sneaky:

kazalala;1199640 wrote: me too:sneaky::D

my hubs wasnt going to bother ,, but i said he better or he aint allowed to moan about the governement or in fact hardly anything at all if he didnt use his vote:p i told him he could vote for anyone except the BNP or i would divorce him:sneaky: All his life..... Mr O has refused to tell anyone who he votes for including me...... I respect that. However, i will torture him later to get the truth out. :wah:

kazalala;1199640 wrote: me too:sneaky::D

my hubs wasnt going to bother ,, but i said he better or he aint allowed to moan about the governement or in fact hardly anything at all if he didnt use his vote:p i told him he could vote for anyone except the BNP or i would divorce him:sneaky:


My hubs doesn't vote either...but does like to have a good b&m about politics...shut up I says cuz it doesn't count if you don't vote. My Laura voted for the first time in November...she went against all her friends who went with McCain. Very proud that I'm raising a nice liberal daughter.:wah:

oscar;1199650 wrote: All his life..... Mr O has refused to tell anyone who he votes for including me...... I respect that. However, i will torture him later to get the truth out. :wah:


The last time hubs voted was when Clinton ran the first time...he never told me. Mmm, you just gave me an idea...will have to ask him when he starts talking in his sleep:sneaky::wah:

Always keep a box of disposable gloves handy-if you don't use them for things like this you can use them when you wash the dishes.

chonsigirl;1199714 wrote: Always keep a box of disposable gloves handy-if you don't use them for things like this you can use them when you wash the dishes. oh Chonsi....... you have just made me laugh so much :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl If you knew me well........ you would know that i NEVER do the dishes....... NEVER ..... That's what Mr O is for :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Nomad;1199487 wrote: I used to do this. I thought I was being descriptive but when I was asked if Id have said said the same were he white I realized probably not.

So I consider myself educated and no longer describe persons by their color or nationality unless its pertinent to the story. Speaking for myself it was probably ignorance and am grateful for someone pointing it out to me.
I've found I naturally don't use race/ethnicity unless actually describing someone physically. Sometimes a person will actually say "you didn't say he/she was black!" :-2

Accountable;1199834 wrote: I've found I naturally don't use race/ethnicity unless actually describing someone physically. Sometimes a person will actually say "you didn't say he/she was black!" :-2


This is with all due respect. Please dont misinterpret my thoughts as something other than a long standing curiousity

Ive never understood your views on race relations. In fact if Im not mistaken youve out right denied race as pertinent to any topic other than to address racism.

Over the years Ive seen you become quite animated over the subject. At first I wasnt sure if its for personal and protective reasons but then I started wondering about your denial to include race as a valid social issue.

Perhaps Ive misinterpreted and perhaps its none of my business but your stand has always been quite confusing to me because I thought we were on the same page yet you have this thing about race I just cant quite figure out.

Again this is just a simple curiousity on my part and if Ive got it all screwed up then maybe Im being a dullard, thats always a possibility.

Nomad;1199883 wrote: This is with all due respect. Please dont misinterpret my thoughts as something other than a long standing curiousity

Ive never understood your views on race relations. In fact if Im not mistaken youve out right denied race as pertinent to any topic other than to address racism.

Over the years Ive seen you become quite animated over the subject. At first I wasnt sure if its for personal and protective reasons but then I started wondering about your denial to include race as a valid social issue.

Perhaps Ive misinterpreted and perhaps its none of my business but your stand has always been quite confusing to me because I thought we were on the same page yet you have this thing about race I just cant quite figure out.

Again this is just a simple curiousity on my part and if Ive got it all screwed up then maybe Im being a dullard, thats always a possibility.
(sorry for the sidetrack)

I think every person should be proud of their culture, their ethnicity if you will. One group - black people - were forced into a collective subculture because of our racism. The culture they formed is one of which to be proud. But make no mistake, being black does not require one to adopt that culture, and assuming a person lives a certain way because of his or her skin color is no more fair than assuming that I wear kilts and hang tartan on my walls because my name is Scottish.



I abhor the very word "race" when applied to anything other than competition. It divides unecessarily. Skin color is a physical attribute just like eye or hair color, height or weight. When telling a story or describing a work situation, skin color is irrellevant in almost all situations. I guess I rushed my last post too much to get that across.



Does that help?

Accountable;1199962 wrote: (sorry for the sidetrack)

I think every person should be proud of their culture, their ethnicity if you will. One group - black people - were forced into a collective subculture because of our racism. The culture they formed is one of which to be proud. But make no mistake, being black does not require one to adopt that culture, and assuming a person lives a certain way because of his or her skin color is no more fair than assuming that I wear kilts and hang tartan on my walls because my name is Scottish.



I abhor the very word "race" when applied to anything other than competition. It divides unecessarily. Skin color is a physical attribute just like eye or hair color, height or weight. When telling a story or describing a work situation, skin color is irrellevant in almost all situations. I guess I rushed my last post too much to get that across.



Does that help?


(sorry for the sidetrack)

Im with you except for the word race thing. First and foremost we are all human beings. Thats my take. I cant deny races though. I dont think of it as a dirty word. To me it merely describes the variances of the human race. It only divides because of perception. Thats the real problem. Culture is an integral part of race and in my view these things should be recognized and celebrated. Collectively as humans I love that we are all different in some ways. Its a treasure trove of knowledge and experiences to be shared amongst ourselves. Theres beauty in this. Different doesnt have to mean seperate.

Think how interesting life could be as you walk down the street and if you spent 15 minutes with 5 people of another culture other than your own !!!

Your life would be greatly enriched.

I know this !