The violators far out number the ability of the police force to enforce the law so the offenders are flagrant and reckless. Ive seen people drive by police that are occupied writing tickets fly right by them at very high rates of speed as if their presence isnt even noticed.
65 drops down to 55 nearing a town with exits and entrances and very few adjust their speed.
Peoples driving habits appear aggressive, intimidating and angry. They put other drivers at risk by their conspicuously dangerous and egregious practices on the road.
Pedestrians, motorcyclists, byciclists are at their mercy. Some dare and challenge others to interrupt their right to dominate the roads.
These people are criminals and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for their disregard of the laws which exist to protect all drivers.
Their licenses should be revoked and their freedom to live in society annuled. They should be imprisoned and stripped of their ego through fear tactics.
They are bona fide terrorists.
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:51 am
by Odie
speeding yes, a huge problem here, people just don't care how fast they go.
accidents caused from speeding?......several........every day.
I've seen 200km in a 50 km zone........
Some of our most dangerous intersections have cameras....
one ticket will stop them.......until next time.
on our highways, the maximum is 100KM an hour......if your going the required speed......funny how others pass you..........most do 140km.
just not enough police.......
and we also have highway patrol as we have HUGE highways going through the city.
401
400
DVP
410
403
404
407
people here are in to much of a rush, and they cause others to die.
two years ago....on my street.......which is a backstreet away from a major one......one kid, 17 going 250 km, in a 60 km zone........lost control and wrapped his vehicle around a pole..dead, dead, dead......its shocks me to see peope still leaving flowers where he died.
they are dangerous criminals....but often don't get caught.
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:11 am
by Betty Boop
Yes, it's a problem here as well.
What happens Nomad if you get caught speeding? Fine? Points on license?
I must admit that if a police car is observed booking someone then the motorists on the road do slow down. The mere appearance of a police car is generally incentive enough to make people slow up and take note of their speed. Well, it is around these parts anyway.
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:14 am
by Nomad
Betty Boop;1224062 wrote: Yes, it's a problem here as well.
What happens Nomad if you get caught speeding? Fine? Points on license?
I must admit that if a police car is observed booking someone then the motorists on the road do slow down. The mere appearance of a police car is generally incentive enough to make people slow up and take note of their speed. Well, it is around these parts anyway.
Minimal consequences considering the severity of their crimes.
Seriously if I had my way theyd be imprisoned, fined, forfeit their vehicle, their name and crime published and thrown to the wolves to be dispensed of their dignity by other inmates.
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:52 am
by along-for-the-ride
Speeding is a problem everywhere. Plus now we have speeders who text on cell phones while speeding :-5
Many drivers have gotten too careless about their driving.
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:10 am
by CARLA
Driving is a privilege not a right and if abuse that privilege should be taken away.
My sister works ER sometimes at a Hospital here the biggest accidents are pedestrians being killed, or hurt as drivers speed through intersections and run them down.
I see at least one accident a day of someone talking or texting on thier phone and slamming into the back of the stopped vehicle in front of them.
I always felt safe in my 73 Camaro. Now that is has been retired to Sunday drives I get around all week in a Honda Civic just not the 3 to 4 thousand pounds of steel around me as the Camaro and I feel a bit vaunarable at times. There are idiots drivers out there and it frightens me.
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:15 pm
by Patsy Warnick
Our traffic is terrible here - speeding, a major problem
we have Photo Radar Cameras everywhere.
Made a State Rep. step down from his position - he was on camera @ 100 mph..!
Just the other day as I was at a red light this PickUp Truck rolled and landed back on it's tires before rolling on me...
all due to speed - the truck was flying down a freeway off ramp & trying to make the light and there I sat.. I nearly threw-up. terrible frightening sight.
Penalties are minor for speeding -To pay a fine just doesn't stop the offense - it seems moneys not a problem for some people... IncorporateTent City as a penalty - it would interrupt their Life Style..
Patsy
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:12 pm
by fuzzywuzzy
Hmmm don't watch this if you don't want to know, but i would implore you show your teenagers.
YouTube - The Bigger the Mess
with all the ads in Australia some quite graphic. why do we all still speed.
but if you are into science maybe this ad will suffice? From the campaigne "wipe of five"
YouTube - Please Slow Down RTA Commercial
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:30 pm
by fuzzywuzzy
Ive seen people drive by police that are occupied writing tickets fly right by them at very high rates of speed as if their presence isnt even noticed.
ahh you mean like this?
YouTube - TAC - Young Cops (Australia)
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:19 pm
by flopstock
If my daughter isn't in the car I'll play tag... tailgaters get the taillight check as I pump the breaks and when the yellow line is about to go in my favor I'll speed up so they can't pass ...
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:47 pm
by Oscar Namechange
I have to say that it's not too bad in my area. The amount of speed camera's help but i do actually believe the traffic police do a good job. There has been a few near misses over the years but generally very good. It's folk going too slow that cause the problems.
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:22 pm
by Odie
oscar;1224296 wrote: I have to say that it's not too bad in my area. The amount of speed camera's help but i do actually believe the traffic police do a good job. There has been a few near misses over the years but generally very good. It's folk going too slow that cause the problems.
people going to slow, going to fast................
-road rage here is a huge thing here.
If someone is tail-gating you, don't slow down just to make them angry, just change lanes, so simple.
when you do what others drivers do in road rage, your no better than them.
and drivers that are going to slow.........don't tailgate or honk your horn in hopes they will pick up speed, again, just change lanes...if your unable to change lanes........slow down until you can.
suck it up and move on.
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:37 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Odie;1224301 wrote: people going to slow, going to fast................
-road rage here is a huge thing here.
If someone is tail-gating you, don't slow down just to make them angry, just change lanes, so simple.
when you do what others drivers do in road rage, your no better than them.
and drivers that are going to slow.........don't tailgate or honk your horn in hopes they will pick up speed, again, just change lanes...if your unable to change lanes........slow down until you can.
suck it up and move on. Pete was assaulted about a year ago in a road rage incident over a parking space. The police were called and in between them arriving, i calmed the guy down and he started apologising. After what he told me, i felt so bad for him that i didn't want to see him arrested although the officers were saying it was clear cut road rage assault. After i told Pete what this poor guy had gone through that day, they shook hands and Pete wouldn't press charges.
From what that guy went through that day taught me that we never really know what a bad day some-one is having and why they are being so angry on the road but he had good reason.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:20 am
by Clodhopper
It always amazes me how many people undergo radical personality changes when they get behind the wheel of a car: Mr or Ms Mild becomes a seething bubble of fury...
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:40 am
by Oscar Namechange
Clodhopper;1224351 wrote: It always amazes me how many people undergo radical personality changes when they get behind the wheel of a car: Mr or Ms Mild becomes a seething bubble of fury... True.......... my husband is just too considerate. He's the guy that will let you out of a junction every time.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:57 am
by Nomad
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:03 am
by Clodhopper
So when not in the car, Mr Lake is a seething bubble of fury???? I'd never have guessed!;)
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:12 am
by Nomad
Clodhopper;1224362 wrote:
So when not in the car, Mr Lake is a seething bubble of fury???? I'd never have guessed!;)
Peter Lake is ALL about bubbles, he loves bubbles. In close circles hes known as Mr Happy Bubbles.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:42 am
by Odie
oscar;1224302 wrote: Pete was assaulted about a year ago in a road rage incident over a parking space. The police were called and in between them arriving, i calmed the guy down and he started apologising. After what he told me, i felt so bad for him that i didn't want to see him arrested although the officers were saying it was clear cut road rage assault. After i told Pete what this poor guy had gone through that day, they shook hands and Pete wouldn't press charges.
From what that guy went through that day taught me that we never really know what a bad day some-one is having and why they are being so angry on the road but he had good reason.
I've had really really bad days.......but I don't let if effect my driving....
and if someone knows they have had that bad of day........best not to drive.
I'm sorry Peter was hit by this guy.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:04 am
by Clodhopper
Peter Lake is ALL about bubbles, he loves bubbles. In close circles hes known as Mr Happy Bubbles.
I can feel a kiddies' story coming on.
Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin...
One day Mr Happy Bubbles woke up feeling strange. "I'm being stereotyped," he complained to Mrs Bubbles, "I need to break out of my rut."
"Yes, dear." Replied Mrs Bubbles (she's very meek and mild), "So what do you propose to do about it?"
Mr Bubbles frowned and thought a bit. "Hmm," he mused, "I'll have to think VERY hard about that." So he went and got his special thinking hat - the one with the pink roses on it - and sat in the corner thinking very hard indeed.
Several days later Mr Bubbles suddenly cried, "Eureka!" causing Mrs Bubbles to throw the tray she was carrying with tea and milk on it high into the air, "I know what to do!"
"That's nice, dear," said Mrs Bubbles, as she began to wipe up the mess (did I say she was very meek?) and Mr Bubbles, forgetting even to remove his thinking hat, rushed out to the car.
"VROOM!!!!!" went the car as Mr Happy Bubbles accelerated to 120mph in the middle of the town while texting on his mobile phone. "Hah!" thought Mr Happy Bubbles, "That'll show them! But I need somethijng to round off the stunt...Ahah!"
So Mr Bubbles mounted the pavement and mowed down 14 feral teenagers, two pigeons and a dachshund. Sadly, he then hit a lampost, but because he was wearing his safety belt he was absolutely fine.
And the moral of the story is: ALWAYS wear a safety belt when committing homicide with your car and NEVER assume that someone called Mr Happy Bubbles is remotely sane. Even when he's wearing a hat with roses on it.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:10 am
by Oscar Namechange
Clodhopper;1224426 wrote: I can feel a kiddies' story coming on.
Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin...
One day Mr Happy Bubbles woke up feeling strange. "I'm being stereotyped," he complained to Mrs Bubbles, "I need to break out of my rut."
"Yes, dear." Replied Mrs Bubbles (she's very meek and mild), "So what do you propose to do about it?"
Mr Bubbles frowned and thought a bit. "Hmm," he mused, "I'll have to think VERY hard about that." So he went and got his special thinking hat - the one with the pink roses on it - and sat in the corner thinking very hard indeed.
Several days later Mr Bubbles suddenly cried, "Eureka!" causing Mrs Bubbles to throw the tray she was carrying with tea and milk on it high into the air, "I know what to do!"
"That's nice, dear," said Mrs Bubbles, as she began to wipe up the mess (did I say she was very meek?) and Mr Bubbles, forgetting even to remove his thinking hat, rushed out to the car.
"VROOM!!!!!" went the car as Mr Happy Bubbles accelerated to 120mph in the middle of the town while texting on his mobile phone. "Hah!" thought Mr Happy Bubbles, "That'll show them! But I need somethijng to round off the stunt...Ahah!"
So Mr Bubbles mounted the pavement and mowed down 14 feral teenagers, two pigeons and a dachshund. Sadly, he then hit a lampost, but because he was wearing his safety belt he was absolutely fine.
And the moral of the story is: ALWAYS wear a safety belt when committing homicide with your car and NEVER assume that someone called Mr Happy Bubbles is remotely sane. Even when he's wearing a hat with roses on it.
:wah::wah::wah:
Mr Lake is not Mr Bubbles :wah:
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:10 am
by fuzzywuzzy
Clodhopper;1224351 wrote: It always amazes me how many people undergo radical personality changes when they get behind the wheel of a car: Mr or Ms Mild becomes a seething bubble of fury...
Cloddhopper I tend to be a bit like that these days. I was very tentative whilst driving ...........but then I got a 4x4 with a bull bar and now when I see a kangaroo I say "Come on try me, I'm ready for your arse!":D
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:13 am
by fuzzywuzzy
Clodhopper;1224426 wrote: I can feel a kiddies' story coming on.
Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin...
One day Mr Happy Bubbles woke up feeling strange. "I'm being stereotyped," he complained to Mrs Bubbles, "I need to break out of my rut."
"Yes, dear." Replied Mrs Bubbles (she's very meek and mild), "So what do you propose to do about it?"
Mr Bubbles frowned and thought a bit. "Hmm," he mused, "I'll have to think VERY hard about that." So he went and got his special thinking hat - the one with the pink roses on it - and sat in the corner thinking very hard indeed.
Several days later Mr Bubbles suddenly cried, "Eureka!" causing Mrs Bubbles to throw the tray she was carrying with tea and milk on it high into the air, "I know what to do!"
"That's nice, dear," said Mrs Bubbles, as she began to wipe up the mess (did I say she was very meek?) and Mr Bubbles, forgetting even to remove his thinking hat, rushed out to the car.
"VROOM!!!!!" went the car as Mr Happy Bubbles accelerated to 120mph in the middle of the town while texting on his mobile phone. "Hah!" thought Mr Happy Bubbles, "That'll show them! But I need somethijng to round off the stunt...Ahah!"
So Mr Bubbles mounted the pavement and mowed down 14 feral teenagers, two pigeons and a dachshund. Sadly, he then hit a lampost, but because he was wearing his safety belt he was absolutely fine.
And the moral of the story is: ALWAYS wear a safety belt when committing homicide with your car and NEVER assume that someone called Mr Happy Bubbles is remotely sane. Even when he's wearing a hat with roses on it.
you should write childrens books.:wah::wah::wah:
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:15 am
by Clodhopper
Cloddhopper I tend to be a bit like that these days. I was very tentative whilst driving ...........but then I got a 4x4 with a bull bar and now when I see a kangaroo I say "Come on try me, I'm ready for your arse!"
Well....so long as you don't chase them across the countryside if you miss them the first time I suppose that's ok!
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:21 am
by Nomad
oscar;1224430 wrote: :wah::wah::wah:
Mr Lake is not Mr Bubbles :wah:
Pardon?
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:38 am
by Oscar Namechange
Nomad;1224440 wrote: Pardon? Mr Fluffy........ please stop this immediatley.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:59 am
by fuzzywuzzy
Clodhopper;1224434 wrote: Well....so long as you don't chase them across the countryside if you miss them the first time I suppose that's ok!
Ummm eyeees I wouldn't want to be accused of that would i?:sneaky:
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:02 am
by Clodhopper
teehee. Top tip: If you think you'll miss them with the bull bar, swing open the nearest car door: nearly doubles your chances! :driving:
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:20 am
by Nomad
oscar;1224451 wrote: Mr Fluffy........ please stop this immediatley.
Hes Mr Happy Bubbles to me.
Its all I have left.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:33 am
by Oscar Namechange
Nomad;1224475 wrote: Hes Mr Happy Bubbles to me.
Its all I have left.
He's Mr happy at the moment, he got a call from his cup winner and the fish are biting so he's hoofed it off up the river. However, he has left his pc logged on so if you don't watch it Mr Fluffy, i shall insult you via Peter Lake and get him banned in his absense :p
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:34 am
by gmc
It's not just speeding that's dangerous. I'd like to see more actual police on the road rather than cameras. I hate being tailgated-I see at least one accident a week where that has been the cause. People using mobile phones. Police here don't muck about if they see it and it's £60 fine and three points but they are never around. I nearly got hit by a lorry just today-the guy was on a phone and didn't stop at a roundabout-you learn to watch for it but if I hadn't been paying properly myself he would have hit me I'd tp brake and swerve to get out his way. It's on motorways as well when someone suddenly slows on the outside lane or swerves from side to side as the driver gets distracted. I think any driver in an accident found to have been using a phone at the time should lose his licence and if insurance companies invalidated their insurance if that was found to be a contributory the cause it might wake people up. have I would ban hands free as well.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:37 am
by Oscar Namechange
gmc;1224479 wrote: It's not just speeding that's dangerous. I'd like to see more actual police on the road rather than cameras. I hate being tailgated-I see at least one accident a week where that has been the cause. People using mobile phones. Police here don't muck about if they see it and it's £60 fine and three points but they are never around. I nearly got hit by a lorry just today-the guy was on a phone and didn't stop at a roundabout-you learn to watch for it but if I hadn't been paying properly myself he would have hit me I'd tp brake and swerve to get out his way. It's on motorways as well when someone suddenly slows on the outside lane or swerves from side to side as the driver gets distracted. I think any driver in an accident found to have been using a phone at the time should lose his licence and if insurance companies invalidated their insurance if that was found to be a contributory the cause it might wake people up. have I would ban hands free as well. Those people on motorways who enter at 20 mph while the speed is 70 mph :-5
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:54 am
by Odie
gmc;1224479 wrote: It's not just speeding that's dangerous. I'd like to see more actual police on the road rather than cameras. I hate being tailgated-I see at least one accident a week where that has been the cause. People using mobile phones. Police here don't muck about if they see it and it's £60 fine and three points but they are never around. I nearly got hit by a lorry just today-the guy was on a phone and didn't stop at a roundabout-you learn to watch for it but if I hadn't been paying properly myself he would have hit me I'd tp brake and swerve to get out his way. It's on motorways as well when someone suddenly slows on the outside lane or swerves from side to side as the driver gets distracted. I think any driver in an accident found to have been using a phone at the time should lose his licence and if insurance companies invalidated their insurance if that was found to be a contributory the cause it might wake people up. have I would ban hands free as well.
in the fall, cell phones will be prohibited here to use while driving...bet your bottom dollar no one will stop using them.
oh yes and there's the ones on the highways, no signal and going way to fast, they just swerve into others lanes......boom!
or when you try to get onto a highway and you need your speed up to 100km, and no one lets you in.......on purpose!
glad you are okay.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:19 am
by Oscar Namechange
Odie;1224501 wrote: in the fall, cell phones will be prohibited here to use while driving...bet your bottom dollar no one will stop using them.
oh yes and there's the ones on the highways, no signal and going way to fast, they just swerve into others lanes......boom!
or when you try to get onto a highway and you need your speed up to 100km, and no one lets you in.......on purpose!
glad you are okay.
Don't tell him but I'm kinda relieved he's ok as well.... shhhhhh
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:11 am
by Odie
oscar;1224516 wrote: Don't tell him but I'm kinda relieved he's ok as well.... shhhhhh
okay, mom's the word.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:19 am
by Oscar Namechange
Odie;1224546 wrote: okay, mom's the word.
Your a pal.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:08 pm
by gmc
oscar;1224482 wrote: Those people on motorways who enter at 20 mph while the speed is 70 mph :-5
Those dickheads who don't realise that being in a lead in and indicating you want to pull out doesn't mean you can just do so.
Those dickheads who don't have the courtesy to move to the outside lane when it is clear to let people out
People on roundabouts that don't know which lane they are supposed to be in and don't notice other cars:-5:-5:-5