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SUCKS!!!

Since we got our new puter 4 weeks ago, VISTA has been/ caused nothing but puter problems!!!! I have been on the phone with the puter geek squad for more hours then I care to count!!! And I'm still having problems, as I type!!!!

(I loved my Windows XP)

cars;1234992 wrote: SUCKS!!!



Since we got our new puter 4 weeks ago, VISTA has been/ caused nothing but puter problems!!!! I have been on the phone with the puter geek squad for more hours then I care to count!!! And I'm still having problems, as I type!!!!



(I loved my Windows XP)


Hey Cars:-6

In all honesty, I haven't had any problems with Vista. But, when I bought my laptop I had a professional techie put all the programs on my Dell.



About those geek guys.....I asked for their help, and they told me that they were too busy....maybe they could help me in 3 weeks:wah: grrrrr.......

What is it doing, Cars?

I expected to hate Vista when I bought my new computer last year, because everyone said it was nothing but problems. Yet I have no complaints about it at all. I'm sorry you're having troubles, I know that's aggravating. I hope your support guys can help!

cars;1234992 wrote: SUCKS!!!

Since we got our new puter 4 weeks ago, VISTA has been/ caused nothing but puter problems!!!! I have been on the phone with the puter geek squad for more hours then I care to count!!! And I'm still having problems, as I type!!!!It's a quandary, Vista. On the one hand it's as robust and feature-rich as any operating system for the PC, on the other the default settings are vilely chosen and like every other operating system it's dead easy to break.

If you'd like to talk through all the problems here in the thread I expect we can sort them, there's more than enough computer professionals with experience of setting up PCs posting on FG. On the other hand if it's a machine at work all you can do is get your manager to apply pressure on IT support to get it right sooner rather than later. Either way, keep a log of all the exceptions and hardships you hit together with any changes you make.

If it's your own machine, going back to the factory defaults might be a reasonable option, it'll let you apply things like virus checkers and revised defaults in an order which precludes infection over the Internet. It's far too easy to catch something during a setup, there's always a period when you don't have the security patches in place but you're nevertheless online and vulnerable.

If it is causing yo that many headaches see if you can send it back and get a Laptop with Windows XP dowgradable they still have them.

Vista biggest problem is it is over the top with security for the user. If you aren't the administrator on your machine you need to be. Even then you have to go through all the set up options as SPOT mentioned and answer them correctly. You also have to know how to fix the issue. That's not so easy when you don't understand the problem.

If your having issues with scanners, camera, printers etc that aren't compatible with VISTA go the the actual site for the piece of equipment and see if they have drivers that are compatible with VISTA. If they don't your out of luck sorry to say. You might get lucky and VISTA will auto plug and play the equipment, then again it may not.

Like SPOT said give us your problem and hopefully we can figure it out for you.

Thanks all for your inputs. I did have compatability problems between Vista & my printer, & AOL software, and many of the pogo games we like to play! Most were solved by the on line puter geeks. Then, an alert came on "recommending" that Explorer 8.0 was necessary to be installed for systems to operate properly! So I foolishly installed it, & then I could not even get on line at all. So again had to make another call to the geeks yesterday, that lasted close to "two" hours again!

(Oh how I wish I was a puter geek!)

I'm at the point that I don't want to do anything, to anything!

(Thankyou for your offers of assistance, I hope I don't have to take you up on it)

Rule #1 when it come to most recommeded update they are OK to install. When they ask you to update to a new version of Explorer say NO, NO, NO all new version always have problems in the beginning. ON most of our computer at work were still on 6.0 due to compatible issue with software.

Also there is an option that allows you to look at all suggested update and determine if you want them or not by unchecking the box and then moving down a bit and checking the box that says never show this again. That way when your ready you can download it and control it yourself.

There are a bunch of update out now that the home user doesn't need powershell, windows live meeting, live addon just uncheck them and say never show them again.

Microsoft has had a lot of complaints about VISTA, I had it taken off my computer and had XP reinstalled as my main driver.

The problem with VISTA is not so much as it is a bad system, but you need a more powerful computer for it to work well enough to fully appreciate it.

Microsoft is soon coming out with a new release to replace VISTA called Microsoft 7 ( I believe).

mikeinie;1235092 wrote: Microsoft has had a lot of complaints about VISTA, I had it taken off my computer and had XP reinstalled as my main driver.

The problem with VISTA is not so much as it is a bad system, but you need a more powerful computer for it to work well enough to fully appreciate it.

Microsoft is soon coming out with a new release to replace VISTA called Microsoft 7 ( I believe).
Yes I was told when I bought the new putter, that Windows 7 will be coming out within the next few months. And that I would be entitled/qualify for it to be downloaded free to replace the VISTA mess. I'm so gun shy now of these new systems, that I don't know/worry if "7" will be any better, & or maybe even have new bugs yet to be found by the using public in the real world! :-3

Were you able to have XP installed on line, or did you have to bring it in to geek squad for them to fix?

One of my biggest mistakes Carla was installing Windows 08...had a techie guy come out & uninstall it...I have XP on ours. Most peeps I know hate Vista for the reasons Cars said.

Cars I can tell you my experience with Window 7 beta is it is light years better than VISTA. If your machine can handle it you may want to give it a go. The thing to remember is the more complex a operating system gets the more you have to know to make it your own. Window 7 is SLICK but then again I live for technology. :yh_rotfl

CARLA;1235165 wrote: Cars I can tell you my experience with Window 7 beta is it is light years better than VISTA. If your machine can handle it you may want to give it a go. The thing to remember is the more complex a operating system gets the more you have to know to make it your own. Window 7 is SLICK but then again I live for technology. :yh_rotfl
Ok thanks CARLA. But you just convinced me to forget about "7". I don't need anything more complex then what I have now. I may just look into trying to get Windows "XP" reinstalled like mikeinie did!

I just though of a question, on AOL, how do you stop the bookmark tabs in the upper tab box from from appearing for everything previously opened, till it says out of room to open anything else? I remembered you mentioned you had AOL.

cars;1235203 wrote: Ok thanks CARLA. But you just convinced me to forget about "7". I don't need anything more complex then what I have now. I may just look into trying to get Windows "XP" reinstalled like mikeinie did!


You've got a new computer. Microsoft will withdraw support from XP within its lifetime, they already tried once but chickened out.

Windows 7 isn't more complex than Vista or XP, they're all on a par really. The difference is in the default settings at the user end (though there's a lot of re-writing under the bonnet). What's tripped you up is the driver validation. Windows 7 has an XP mode which allows XP drivers to be used, it might actually let you get your peripherals back if any are still inoperable under Vista.

If you've succeeded in getting them working under Vista then that sounds productive.

If it were my machine I'd apply the free Windows 7 upgrade when you get it in October. I quite like 7, it feels robust and usable.

spot;1235205 wrote: You've got a new computer. Microsoft will withdraw support from XP within its lifetime, they already tried once but chickened out.

Windows 7 isn't more complex than Vista or XP, they're all on a par really. The difference is in the default settings at the user end (though there's a lot of re-writing under the bonnet). What's tripped you up is the driver validation. Windows 7 has an XP mode which allows XP drivers to be used, it might actually let you get your peripherals back if any are still inoperable under Vista.

If you've succeeded in getting them working under Vista then that sounds productive.

If it were my machine I'd apply the free Windows 7 upgrade when you get it in October. I quite like 7, it feels robust and usable.
I am currently so thoroughly discusted as well as frustrated with VISTA, and all of it's incompatable operations, that I am very leary to begin trying to learn another system.

cars;1235207 wrote: I am currently so thoroughly discusted as well as frustrated with VISTA, and all of it's incompatable operations, that I am very leary to begin trying to learn another system.


You want Internet browsing from a fixed point at home, a spreadsheet, word processing, printing with your existing printer - is there anything else on your list of necessary applications? If you work out first what you want to be able to achieve, selecting the least complicated operating system to run it all is the next step. Not the first. The final step, though it's a bit late for that, is to select the hardware.

Everyone does the selection in exactly the reverse order. I don't know why they do that, it seems to lack common sense.

That's not a dig at you, it's a baffled observation on the world at large.

What Spot is trying to convey Cars is Window 7 although complex will help you reslove your issues easier with a step back feature to XP drivers that you will never get with VISTA.

I know SPOT and I are Geeks but in all honesty Window 7 will be a better operating than XP or Vista hands down. A free upgrade to Window 7 is a gift I wouldn't pass up. Check it out it has some very nice and easy feature for any user.

Windows 7 Release Candidate videos

CARLA;1235212 wrote: What Spot is trying to convey Cars is Window 7 although complex will help you reslove your issues easier with a step back feature to XP drivers that you will never get with VISTA.

I know SPOT and I are Geeks but in all honesty Window 7 will be a better operating than XP or Vista hands down. A free upgrade to Window 7 is a gift I wouldn't pass up. Check it out it has some very nice and easy feature for any user.

Windows 7 Release Candidate videos
Thanks a bunch CARLA for that link, I will definately consider 7 now!

cars;1235225 wrote: Thanks a bunch CARLA for that link, I will definately consider 7 now!


Hi Carla,



I ordered Vista instead of XP for my Dell laptop because the saleswoman told me that XP will be replaced by Vista Luckily though my vista seems to be working fine. Should I think about 7 for the future?

Kathy Ellen;1235337 wrote: Hi Carla,



I ordered Vista instead of XP for my Dell laptop because the saleswoman told me that XP will be replaced by Vista Luckily though my vista seems to be working fine. Should I think about 7 for the future?


Did you buy the laptop with a free upgrade to Windows 7 (when it comes out on October 22nd) thrown in? It's scarcely cheap.

"For Windows 7, we are reducing the price on our most popular retail product for customers, the Home Premium Upgrade, by approximately 10% (depending on the market). In the U.S., this means a customer buying Windows 7 Home Premium upgrade will pay only $119.99".

spot;1235387 wrote: Did you buy the laptop with a free upgrade to Windows 7 (when it comes out on October 22nd) thrown in? It's scarcely cheap.

"For Windows 7, we are reducing the price on our most popular retail product for customers, the Home Premium Upgrade, by approximately 10% (depending on the market). In the U.S., this means a customer buying Windows 7 Home Premium upgrade will pay only $119.99".
I'm glad the 7 upgrade was included in the package we bought! :wah:

Window 7 free upgrade would make my day. Yes there are different versions of any operating system Home, Priemium, and Enterprise editions. The Home edition will be just fine for everyday users with some slick features. It does come standard with Internet Explorer 8 which combines and works with some of the features that "Window 7" has to offer. Doesn't mean you have to install IE 8 you will be given the option.

Kathy Ellen if VISTA isn't causing you problems as they say "if it ain't broke don't fix it". The price will be right in the first week or so then it will go up dramatically.