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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:01 pm
by Kathy Ellen
Hello Everyone....
Please smack me upside my head if I'm wrong....but can we please have some dialogue about the threads being posted lately about polls and the BNP lately

................and other nonsense....
I'm just tired of this type of thread as the original purpose of the thread is lost because of 'pop-up, pot-stirrer threads' that then appear.....and the nonsense goes on and on and on....

sorry...but it becomes silly and not fun....Or am I wrong about this? I really enjoy reading a good debate, but these threads do not seem to lead to a good debate...
I've made a promise to myself that I'm going to post in the wonderful threads in FG that are so ignored and not appreciated. There are so many members that try to post heart-warming, funny, creative threads to spark our senses, and .....they're ignored by many of us. I am so guilty of this and will try harder to post in these threads because they are beautiful:-4
I truly miss the good fun here in FG and think that we need to 'love' our garden again:D .
Maybe we can open our pub again and have a halloween party:D Guess that takes a village...
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:03 pm
by along-for-the-ride
Just follow me, Kathy Ellen.............

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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:09 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Kathy Ellen;1254191 wrote: Hello Everyone....
Please smack me upside my head if I'm wrong....but can we please have some dialogue about the threads being posted lately about polls and the BNP lately

................and other nonsense....
I'm just tired of this type of thread as the original purpose of the thread is lost because of 'pop-up, pot-stirrer threads' then appear.....and the nonsense goes on and on and on....

sorry...but it becomes silly and not fun....Or am I wrong about this? I really enjoy reading a good debate, but these threads do not seem to lead to a good debate...
I've made a promise to myself that I'm going to post in the wonderful threads in FG that are so ignored and not appreciated. There are so many members that try to post heart-warming, funny, creative threads to spark our senses, and .....they're ignored by many of us. I am so guilty of this and will try harder to post in these threads because they are beautiful:-4
I truly miss the good fun here in FG and think that we need to 'love' our garden again:D .
Maybe we can open our pub again and have a halloween party:D Guess that takes a village...
Sorry Kathy.
I know during the US election Campaigns some of us Brits got bored with all the threads seeming to be about Obama, Palin and McCain. Britiain is coming up to our election and naturally there is alot of this going on in the news.

:D
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:12 pm
by Rapunzel
Kathy Ellen;1254191 wrote: Hello Everyone....
Please smack me upside my head if I'm wrong....but can we please have some dialogue about the threads being posted lately about polls and the BNP lately

................and other nonsense....
I'm just tired of this type of thread as the original purpose of the thread is lost because of 'pop-up, pot-stirrer threads' that then appear.....and the nonsense goes on and on and on....

sorry...but it becomes silly and not fun....Or am I wrong about this? I really enjoy reading a good debate, but these threads do not seem to lead to a good debate...
I've made a promise to myself that I'm going to post in the wonderful threads in FG that are so ignored and not appreciated. There are so many members that try to post heart-warming, funny, creative threads to spark our senses, and .....they're ignored by many of us. I am so guilty of this and will try harder to post in these threads because they are beautiful:-4
I truly miss the good fun here in FG and think that we need to 'love' our garden again:D .
Maybe we can open our pub again and have a halloween party:D Guess that takes a village...
Go for it Kathy Ellen!
I agree with every word you've said!

:-6
Failing that, open your own forum. I'll join!

:)
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:19 pm
by Kathy Ellen
oscar;1254196 wrote: Sorry Kathy.
I know during the US election Campaigns some of us Brits got bored with all the threads seeming to be about Obama, Palin and McCain. Britiain is coming up to our election and naturally there is alot of this going on in the news.

:D
Hi Julie,
My thoughts were not about your politics but about the many polls...and pot stirring.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:22 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Kathy Ellen;1254201 wrote: Hi Julie,
My thoughs were not about your politics but about the many polls...and pot stirring.
The BNP is more in the spotlight of the press more than ever this coming election. Their leader is on tv and in the newspapers virtually every day. I think It's a British thing that some are Interested in, some are not.
I like the balance here but no more polls I promise :wah:
I've been trying to find some heartwarming stories in the press but of late it seems to be all politics or doom and gloom.

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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:36 pm
by Rapunzel
Kathy Ellen;1254201 wrote: Hi Julie,
My thoughs were not about your politics but about the many polls...and pot stirring.
She'll get your little dog...I mean garden, too!
Bwahahahahaha! :wah:
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:37 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Rapunzel;1254205 wrote:
She'll get your little dog...I mean garden, too!
Bwahahahahaha! :wah:
I just read the Mail online and there was not one good story. All rape, murder, thugs, fraud etc etc.

:(:(
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:53 pm
by Lon
Kathy Ellen;1254191 wrote: Hello Everyone....
Please smack me upside my head if I'm wrong....but can we please have some dialogue about the threads being posted lately about polls and the BNP lately

................and other nonsense....
I'm just tired of this type of thread as the original purpose of the thread is lost because of 'pop-up, pot-stirrer threads' that then appear.....and the nonsense goes on and on and on....

sorry...but it becomes silly and not fun....Or am I wrong about this? I really enjoy reading a good debate, but these threads do not seem to lead to a good debate...
I've made a promise to myself that I'm going to post in the wonderful threads in FG that are so ignored and not appreciated. There are so many members that try to post heart-warming, funny, creative threads to spark our senses, and .....they're ignored by many of us. I am so guilty of this and will try harder to post in these threads because they are beautiful:-4
I truly miss the good fun here in FG and think that we need to 'love' our garden again:D .
Maybe we can open our pub again and have a halloween party:D Guess that takes a village...
Any newbie looking at the last few weeks postings would be pretty turned off I suspect----they could perceive that FG is being used by a couple of vey prolific posters to set a posting record of some kind irrespective of the posts content. They could also perceive that FG is primarily a UK dominated site. Overall---FG is pretty boring at the moment, but that will pass as it has before.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:05 am
by farmer giles
Kathy Ellen;1254191 wrote: Hello Everyone....
Please smack me upside my head if I'm wrong....but can we please have some dialogue about the threads being posted lately about polls and the BNP lately

................and other nonsense....
I'm just tired of this type of thread as the original purpose of the thread is lost because of 'pop-up, pot-stirrer threads' that then appear.....and the nonsense goes on and on and on....

sorry...but it becomes silly and not fun....Or am I wrong about this? I really enjoy reading a good debate, but these threads do not seem to lead to a good debate...
I've made a promise to myself that I'm going to post in the wonderful threads in FG that are so ignored and not appreciated. There are so many members that try to post heart-warming, funny, creative threads to spark our senses, and .....they're ignored by many of us. I am so guilty of this and will try harder to post in these threads because they are beautiful:-4
I truly miss the good fun here in FG and think that we need to 'love' our garden again:D .
Maybe we can open our pub again and have a halloween party:D Guess that takes a village...
kathy tedious as it is i cant keep quite whilst some one fills the forum with pro racist ,pro facist properganda
and no one should expect me or any of the other fg members to stand by and keep quite whilst a racist has free run on the forum going unchecked and telling lies,i believe the BNP are as bigger threat as the NAZI party and i will not keep quite
there are many threads on fg that really dont interest me much and the fact that i'm not welcome on them :rolleyes: so i dont grudge others the chance to have their say i just ignore them
any one not interested in exposing vile racist should do the same

:D
no offence meant katherino :-4:-4
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:03 am
by Clodhopper
I agree with Jimbo. Sorry.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:38 am
by buttercup
I see your point Kathy but when i signed in today and clicked on new posts there was 20 word game threads, 1 introduction and this post.
You have to ask yourself, what is it members want and it looks like its word games :-2
I'll take politics anyday other than word games.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:18 am
by farmer giles
Clodhopper;1254292 wrote: I agree with Jimbo. Sorry.
i agree with you 100%:D:D
word games groan people just buy a book if you like them why join a forum :yh_rotfl
just ignore the stuff on fg that does not nterest you
cant you guys see what a hero i am ???:):)
i'm trying to save millions from the gas chamber and untold others from the hands of extremists and racsts/fascist :-6:-6
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:24 am
by Nomad
farmer giles;1254300 wrote:
cant you guys see what a hero i am ?
I can. I know. One day theyll all know but it will be too late for them.
Theyre all like little creepy crawling insects compared to you.
Squash em !
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:37 am
by Bruv
As a contributor to the BNP threads I must have a say.
I see Forums like a large party, you can just walk around and if any conversations interest you, you can offer your own point of view.
There are many threads/conversations I would never enter, and others that interest me greatly. Put another way...... just because a store has many items for sale doesn't mean you have to buy everything, everybody has a choice.
I will say there has been a plague of polls lately, maybe one I rhetorically suggested might be interesting.
But the fact that so many people are contributing to the BNP threads means it is of importance to them.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:03 am
by kazalala
i agree with a few people here ,,, basically i think theres more than enough room for all types of threads,,, thats why there is such a diverse list of forum areas on here i assume! :wah: but yes there are not many fun threads,, good news threads,, lighthearted threads,, and when there is more often than not the fun is sucked right out of them in some way:rolleyes: and a lot of the people who enjoyed that type of thread are either not here or are not posting as much or have given up,, maybe the tide will turn again ,, maybe its just phases who knows,,,
personally i dont feel happy or comfortable or sometimes even welcome here at the moment,,but thats probably my problem. so i do the same as bruv, wander round and if something interests me offer an opinion, then move on.
As far as the BNP threads go ,, i do contribute until frustration takes me elsewhere to get back to a happy place:D
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:25 am
by Raven
I dont see a problem. There are waaaay too many different categories here for anyone to be unhappy. Of course I feel I can put my nose in all of them. Depends on where the mood strikes. I like the controversial ones and I like a bit of fun. Sometimes....just sometimes...it all occurs in one thread!:p
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:30 am
by farmer giles
kazalala;1254308 wrote: i agree with a few people here ,,, basically i think theres more than enough room for all types of threads,,, thats why there is such a diverse list of forum areas on here i assume! :wah: but yes there are not many fun threads,, good news threads,, lighthearted threads,, and when there is more often than not the fun is sucked right out of them in some way:rolleyes: and a lot of the people who enjoyed that type of thread are either not here or are not posting as much or have given up,, maybe the tide will turn again ,, maybe its just phases who knows,,,
personally i dont feel happy or comfortable or sometimes even welcome here at the moment,,but thats probably my problem. so i do the same as bruv, wander round and if something interests me offer an opinion, then move on.
As far as the BNP threads go ,, i do contribute until frustration takes me elsewhere to get back to a happy place:D
red space hoppers to you :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:35 am
by kazalala
farmer giles;1254314 wrote: red space hoppers to you :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
it was a beach ball ,, tut:rolleyes: think they signed him from costa packet:sneaky:
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:45 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Bruv;1254304 wrote: As a contributor to the BNP threads I must have a say.
I see Forums like a large party, you can just walk around and if any conversations interest you, you can offer your own point of view.
There are many threads/conversations I would never enter, and others that interest me greatly. Put another way...... just because a store has many items for sale doesn't mean you have to buy everything, everybody has a choice.
I will say there has been a plague of polls lately, maybe one I rhetorically suggested might be interesting.
But the fact that so many people are contributing to the BNP threads means it is of importance to them.
Very well said Bruv. It's horses for courses. Red and Victoria posted animal threads all the time. Some post word games, some post crime etc etc. The reason I stayed at FG initially was due to the varied range of topics. Of course, going by what is in the news, will dominate the topics and Britian is in pre-election fever the same as we had non stop Obama for a year prior to the US elections. I have no Interest in word games whatsoever, but I would not dream of complaining that there are too many threads on them as I would not dream of complaining there were too many personal threads between friends here. Different things Interest Differnet folks and the true test is to look at how many hits and posts a thread has had. When a thread goes over 50 posts, you can be pretty well assured that the thread is of Interest to some members.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:53 pm
by gmc
Kathy Ellen;1254191 wrote: Hello Everyone....
Please smack me upside my head if I'm wrong....but can we please have some dialogue about the threads being posted lately about polls and the BNP lately

................and other nonsense....
I'm just tired of this type of thread as the original purpose of the thread is lost because of 'pop-up, pot-stirrer threads' that then appear.....and the nonsense goes on and on and on....

sorry...but it becomes silly and not fun....Or am I wrong about this? I really enjoy reading a good debate, but these threads do not seem to lead to a good debate...
I've made a promise to myself that I'm going to post in the wonderful threads in FG that are so ignored and not appreciated. There are so many members that try to post heart-warming, funny, creative threads to spark our senses, and .....they're ignored by many of us. I am so guilty of this and will try harder to post in these threads because they are beautiful:-4
I truly miss the good fun here in FG and think that we need to 'love' our garden again:D .
Maybe we can open our pub again and have a halloween party:D Guess that takes a village...
I don't see the problem. Just avoid the threads you find boring-I never look at the word game threads or any of the other ones I see little point in or am not interested in, the religious ones are occasionally interesting to me but I don't consider I have any right to complain about them. Nor do I go on the threads about american politics and complain about what they are talking about because I don't think it's very relevant . Why read the posts about British politics if they don't interest you? Your healthcare debates are interesting but actually affect me not at all- I read them and chip in occasionally because I find them quite interesting. I see The threads like conversations taking place in a group-every now and then a few people will wander off talking about something else amongst themselves and then come back and chip in to the main conversation just skip the bits that have gone off at tangents. I suggest you ignore the odd tosser as well.
The next few years are going to change the UK radically-we are likely to see constitutional shake up and there is also the possibility the UK may split-it hangs on the next election. The BNP are a big issue at the moment in the UK and quite frankly most british posters are going to get involved and they and their supporters are fair game. If a member if the kkk or the aryan brotherhood was posting would you ignore it? The BNP are a modern manifestation of the british nazi party. We are used to fairly heated debates and are less inclined to hang back but the arguments about the BNP have actually been quite civilised but in any case we can fall out over politics but not actually take things personally, any insults are taken in good part and the spirit in which they are usually intended. We have a couple of wind up merchants in our midst who are BNP travellers at the very least. To borrow a quote from woody allan
I think you should defend to the death their right to march, and then go down and meet them with baseball bats (on the KKK).
The right wing in UK politics are still there like slaters under a stone.
I wouldn't smack you upside your head ( what an odd turn of phrase, I assume you mean skelp you one) but I think you maybe read more aggro in the posts than there actually is and just ignore the polls.
posted by lon
Any newbie looking at the last few weeks postings would be pretty turned off I suspect----they could perceive that FG is being used by a couple of vey prolific posters to set a posting record of some kind irrespective of the posts content. They could also perceive that FG is primarily a UK dominated site. Overall---FG is pretty boring at the moment, but that will pass as it has before.
Actually it's always seemed an american dominated forum to me and it's only recently there have been enough british posters to get a good argument going on British issues. A lot of american posters seem to have drifted away-especially after the presidential election-relief or despair at the outcome perhaps.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:05 pm
by Nomad
gmc;1254496 wrote:
Actually it's always seemed an american dominated forum
Sassy!
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:10 pm
by CARLA
Actually I think you European's like to argue for argument sake. :yh_rotfl
Actually it's always seemed an american dominated forum to me and it's only recently there have been enough british posters to get a good argument going on British issues. A lot of american posters seem to have drifted away-especially after the presidential election-relief or despair at the outcome perhaps.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:15 pm
by Nomad
CARLA;1254503 wrote: Actually I think you European's like to argue for argument sake. :yh_rotfl
Or as spock would say:
This formality can take the form of long sentences, complex constructions, archaic and hyper-formal vocabulary, and a focus on content to the exclusion of reader needs. Some of this formality in legal writing is necessary and desirable, given the importance of some legal documents and the seriousness of the circumstances in which some legal documents are used. Yet not all formality in legal writing is justified. To the extent that formality produces opacity and imprecision, it is undesirable. To the extent that formality hinders reader comprehension, it is less desirable. In particular, when legal content must be conveyed to nonlawyers, formality should give way to clear communication.
What is crucial in setting the level of formality in any legal document is assessing the needs and expectations of the audience. For example, an appellate brief to the highest court in your jurisdiction calls for a formal style--this shows proper respect for the court and for the legal matter at issue. An interoffice legal memorandum to a supervisor can probably be less formal--though not colloquial--because it is an in-house decision-making tool, not a court document. And an email message to a friend and client, updating the status of a legal matter, is appropriately informal.
Transaction documents--legal drafting--fall on a similar continuum. A 150-page merger agreement between two large corporations, in which both sides are represented by counsel, will be highly formal--and should also be accurate, precise, and airtight (features not always compatible with high formality). A commercial lease for a small company using a small office space will likely be much shorter and will require less complexity, but may still be somewhat formal. But a proxy statement allowing the members of a neighborhood association to designate their voting preferences for the next board meeting ought to be as plain as can be. If informality aids that goal, it is justified.
Many U.S. law schools teach legal writing in a way that acknowledges the technical complexity inherent in law and the justified formality that complexity often requires, but with an emphasis on clarity, simplicity, and directness. Yet many practicing lawyers, busy as they are with deadlines and heavy workloads, often resort to a template-based, outdated, hyperformal writing style in both analytical and transactional documents. This is understandable, but it sometimes unfortunately perpetuates an unnecessarily formal legal writing style.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:15 pm
by Oscar Namechange
gmc;1254496 wrote: I don't see the problem. Just avoid the threads you find boring-I never look at the word game threads or any of the other ones I see little point in or am not interested in, the religious ones are occasionally interesting to me but I don't consider I have any right to complain about them. Nor do I go on the threads about american politics and complain about what they are talking about because I don't think it's very relevant . Why read the posts about British politics if they don't interest you? Your healthcare debates are interesting but actually affect me not at all- I read them and chip in occasionally because I find them quite interesting. I see The threads like conversations taking place in a group-every now and then a few people will wander off talking about something else amongst themselves and then come back and chip in to the main conversation just skip the bits that have gone off at tangents. I suggest you ignore the odd tosser as well.
The next few years are going to change the UK radically-we are likely to see constitutional shake up and there is also the possibility the UK may split-it hangs on the next election. The BNP are a big issue at the moment in the UK and quite frankly most british posters are going to get involved and they and their supporters are fair game. If a member if the kkk or the aryan brotherhood was posting would you ignore it? The BNP are a modern manifestation of the british nazi party. We are used to fairly heated debates and are less inclined to hang back but the arguments about the BNP have actually been quite civilised but in any case we can fall out over politics but not actually take things personally, any insults are taken in good part and the spirit in which they are usually intended. We have a couple of wind up merchants in our midst who are BNP travellers at the very least. To borrow a quote from woody allan
The right wing in UK politics are still there like slaters under a stone.
I wouldn't smack you upside your head ( what an odd turn of phrase, I assume you mean skelp you one) but I think you maybe read more aggro in the posts than there actually is and just ignore the polls.
posted by lon
Actually it's always seemed an american dominated forum to me and it's only recently there have been enough british posters to get a good argument going on British issues. A lot of american posters seem to have drifted away-especially after the presidential election-relief or despair at the outcome perhaps. Great Gordon Browns Auld Yin.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:21 pm
by chonsigirl
Nomad;1254505 wrote: Or as spock would say:
This formality can take the form of long sentences, complex constructions, archaic and hyper-formal vocabulary, and a focus on content to the exclusion of reader needs. Some of this formality in legal writing is necessary and desirable, given the importance of some legal documents and the seriousness of the circumstances in which some legal documents are used. Yet not all formality in legal writing is justified. To the extent that formality produces opacity and imprecision, it is undesirable. To the extent that formality hinders reader comprehension, it is less desirable. In particular, when legal content must be conveyed to nonlawyers, formality should give way to clear communication.
What is crucial in setting the level of formality in any legal document is assessing the needs and expectations of the audience. For example, an appellate brief to the highest court in your jurisdiction calls for a formal style--this shows proper respect for the court and for the legal matter at issue. An interoffice legal memorandum to a supervisor can probably be less formal--though not colloquial--because it is an in-house decision-making tool, not a court document. And an email message to a friend and client, updating the status of a legal matter, is appropriately informal.
Transaction documents--legal drafting--fall on a similar continuum. A 150-page merger agreement between two large corporations, in which both sides are represented by counsel, will be highly formal--and should also be accurate, precise, and airtight (features not always compatible with high formality). A commercial lease for a small company using a small office space will likely be much shorter and will require less complexity, but may still be somewhat formal. But a proxy statement allowing the members of a neighborhood association to designate their voting preferences for the next board meeting ought to be as plain as can be. If informality aids that goal, it is justified.
Many U.S. law schools teach legal writing in a way that acknowledges the technical complexity inherent in law and the justified formality that complexity often requires, but with an emphasis on clarity, simplicity, and directness. Yet many practicing lawyers, busy as they are with deadlines and heavy workloads, often resort to a template-based, outdated, hyperformal writing style in both analytical and transactional documents. This is understandable, but it sometimes unfortunately perpetuates an unnecessarily formal legal writing style.
Baliff! :wah:
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:24 pm
by Nomad
chonsigirl;1254509 wrote: Baliff! :wah:
hey...no hard feelings about Sunday. Had to give you a whuppin. Its just business.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:28 pm
by chonsigirl
:wah: Yeah, they pouted here alot. Like purple drapped in black on Monday. But it was a lively game 2nd half-and you guys won it.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:19 pm
by Kathy Ellen
I apologize to everyone...didn't mean to insult anyone. Think that I'm just not into discussing politics and miss the chit chat threads.
Sorry:-6
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:44 pm
by Odie
CARLA;1254503 wrote: Actually I think you European's like to argue for argument sake. :yh_rotfl
oh please, are there never threads on election time in the US?
-and now ones bashing Obama?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
notice Canadian's don't bash our leader?:D
we could.....there's just not enough of us!:wah::wah:
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:13 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Kathy Ellen;1254550 wrote: I apologize to everyone...didn't mean to insult anyone. Think that I'm just not into discussing politics and miss the chit chat threads.
Sorry:-6
Kathy.... You could not Insult anyone even If you tried :-4:-4:-4
As my learned Scottish friend said, we are in election time but this election is different in many ways due to the Increase in the far right BNP. We usually find our elections quite tedious but this is indeed the one to watch. Unfortunately, for the next few months our tabloids will be dominated by what the Parties are up to. I've posted some chit chat threads tonight to even things out.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:22 pm
by Kathy Ellen
oscar;1254619 wrote: Kathy.... You could not Insult anyone even If you tried :-4:-4:-4
As my learned Scottish friend said, we are in election time but this election is different in many ways due to the Increase in the far right BNP. We usually find our elections quite tedious but this is indeed the one to watch. Unfortunately, for the next few months our tabloids will be dominated by what the Parties are up to. I've posted some chit chat threads tonight to even things out.
Thanks Julie:-4......understood:-6
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:49 am
by farmer giles
Kathy Ellen;1254550 wrote: I apologize to everyone...didn't mean to insult anyone. Think that I'm just not into discussing politics and miss the chit chat threads.
Sorry:-6
kathy i pretty much hate politics they are pretty much all the same to me noses in the trough the lot of them

but the BNP are a whole lot more vile ,racist fascist scum and with the help of cleverly worded polls and downright lies some people are having there heads turned and are actually thinking that these vile scum are worth voting for
as gmc said if you had an american on fg spouting kkk propo ganda you guys would be up in arms and rightly so
we have members here who are doing just that
they post a few nice :-4 now and again and a nice thread about animals but make no mistake THEY ARE VILE RACISTS and its wrong you know it i know it every decent thinking human being knows it
i will not be silenced ever

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:54 am
by gmc
Odie;1254596 wrote: oh please, are there never threads on election time in the US?
-and now ones bashing Obama?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
notice Canadian's don't bash our leader?:D
we could.....there's just not enough of us!:wah::wah:
Apart from canadians no one would know who he was anyway.:sneaky: You all seem to wander along just sublime. I see you've lost quite a few troops Afghanistan.
posted by kathy ellen
I apologize to everyone...didn't mean to insult anyone. Think that I'm just not into discussing politics and miss the chit chat threads.
You haven't insulted anyone. That's where we differ though-I like discussing politics-it's quite good to get them going about british politics for a change instead of american.
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:05 am
by kazalala
Kathy Ellen;1254550 wrote: I apologize to everyone...didn't mean to insult anyone. Think that I'm just not into discussing politics and miss the chit chat threads.
Sorry:-6
Kathy you said how you felt without being rude or offensive so theres no need to apologise. You are entitled to your feelings and opinions:)
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:26 am
by Kathy Ellen
kazalala;1254716 wrote: Kathy you said how you felt without being rude or offensive so theres no need to apologise. You are entitled to your feelings and opinions:)
Thanks Kaz......miss you and hope you're well:-6
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:29 am
by Kathy Ellen
Quote by gmc.
You haven't insulted anyone. That's where we differ though-I like discussing politics-it's quite good to get them going about british politics for a change instead of american.
:wah::wah: Yes, I agree gmc...I like it when you discuss British politics instead of USA also

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:45 am
by Bruv
Kathy Ellen;1254550 wrote: I apologize to everyone...didn't mean to insult anyone. Think that I'm just not into discussing politics and miss the chit chat threads.
Sorry:-6
I wasn't insulted......you yanks are such a sensitive lot.
You had a point and made it heard, and it was noted.
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:59 am
by Imladris
CARLA;1254503 wrote: Actually I think you European's like to argue for argument sake. :yh_rotfl
:eek::eek:
I'm not and never will be European, I was born in England so I'm English, England is part of Great Britain so I'm British (at a push) but I was brought up to understand that Europe, geographically speaking, does not contain Britain.
Our 'economic' links to Europe do not make us European in my opinion and in many others. Might make us mugs but that's another issue.:rolleyes:
Oh, and us British/English/Scots/Welsh/Irish all love a good argument! :yh_rotfl
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:59 am
by farmer giles
Imladris;1254763 wrote:

:eek:
I'm not and never will be European, I was born in England so I'm English, England is part of Great Britain so I'm British (at a push) but I was brought up to understand that Europe, geographically speaking, does not contain Britain.
Our 'economic' links to Europe do not make us European in my opinion and in many others. Might make us mugs but that's another issue.:rolleyes:
Oh, and us British/English/Scots/Welsh/Irish all love a good argument! :yh_rotfl
no we dont :p:p:yh_rotfl
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:26 am
by Imladris
farmer giles;1254788 wrote:
no we dont :p:p:yh_rotfl
Ok I'll rephrase that 'Immy likes a good argument but loves slapping Jimbo more!' :sneaky:
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:16 pm
by Kathy Ellen
farmer giles;1254707 wrote: kathy i pretty much hate politics they are pretty much all the same to me noses in the trough the lot of them

but the BNP are a whole lot more vile ,racist fascist scum and with the help of cleverly worded polls and downright lies some people are having there heads turned and are actually thinking that these vile scum are worth voting for
as gmc said if you had an american on fg spouting kkk propo ganda you guys would be up in arms and rightly so
we have members here who are doing just that
they post a few nice :-4 now and again and a nice thread about animals but make no mistake THEY ARE VILE RACISTS and its wrong you know it i know it every decent thinking human being knows it
i will not be silenced ever
Hey Jim:-6
I understand....But I wasn't asking you to be silent.....Nor should you be.
I honestly don't know who the BNP are so I can't respond. I will read more about them so I can post honestly. And you're damn right.....I would also fight against any racist or government who is racist.
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:21 pm
by farmer giles
Imladris;1254912 wrote: Ok I'll rephrase that 'Immy likes a good argument but loves slapping Jimbo more!' :sneaky:


of course this calls for cranflies in the post :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl oh damn it there is a strike on :-5:-5
Kathy Ellen;1255047 wrote: Hey Jim:-6
I understand....But I wasn't asking you to be silent.....Nor should you be.
I honestly don't know who the BNP are so I can't respond. I will read more about them so I can post honestly. And you're damn right.....I would also fight against any racist or government who is racist.
kathy i know you one of the fg good people and vile racist would make you as sick as it makes me .... if there were more people like us maybe there racists would notet the platform to spout their vile hatred :-6:-6
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:23 pm
by Kathy Ellen
Bruv;1254726 wrote: I wasn't insulted......you yanks are such a sensitive lot.
You had a point and made it heard, and it was noted.
Thanks Bruv:-6
I can't speak for all Americans, but will admit that I am very sensitive and not argumentative. I worry about everything but don't think I'll change at my age. I've been like this all my life:o
Oh well, I'm trying to change and be less sensitive, but it's not working:wah:
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:25 pm
by Kathy Ellen
farmer giles;1255049 wrote:
kathy i know you one of the fg good people and vile racist would make you as sick as it makes me .... if there were more people like us maybe there racists would notet the platform to spout their vile hatred :-6:-6
Agreed Jim.....I don't accept racism and won't tolerate it. In fact, one of our teachers was making fun of a heavy set 8yr. old in her class, and I told the teacher off....You don't hurt anyone's feelings like that....especially a child who can't stand up for herself.
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:25 pm
by kayleneaussie
I am a haapy little aussie who plods along and keeps to myself in FG..I dont think I have insulted anyone

I read a lot of threads and the ones that i dont like i dont go back to...I have voiced my opinion though when they have pushed my buttons.....sometimes i dont come back for days as Fg was a place to wind down but some people just make Fg a place i dont like to come to.....at the moment I am finding it very boring reading

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:27 pm
by kayleneaussie
Kathy Ellen;1255051 wrote: Agreed Jim.....I don't accept racism and won't tolerate it.
same here Kathy .....
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:30 pm
by Bruv
Kathy Ellen;1255050 wrote: Thanks Bruv:-6
Oh well, I'm trying to change and be less sensitive, but it's not working:wah:
Don't go Changing
Im a smoothie really.
(Just like Jimbo.....)
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:34 pm
by farmer giles
Bruv;1255057 wrote: Don't go Changing
Im a smoothie really.
(Just like Jimbo.....)
enough about my hair style buddy

:D
great tune :-6
we didn't start the fire :rolleyes:
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:42 pm
by Kathy Ellen
Bruv;1255057 wrote: Don't go Changing
Im a smoothie really.
(Just like Jimbo.....)
Awwww Thanks Bruv:-4
You are a softie, and that's a compliment.
I love that song and haven't heard it in a long, long time:-6 Thanks for posting it:p