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Well guys, it is finally approaching. 2010 is almost here. And I must tell all of you who are reading this, I am VERY worried about this coming year and what it will mean for the entire World. Especially Europe.

I can not stress this enough. I have said for many years on this board that if World War 3 was to take place, that it would most likely take place either in or very close to the year 2010. There are many reasons that I believe this, and I have stated them in my other threads already, so I won't go into the reasons why I think this is, but I will state that I have never been more serious when I say that Russia and Europe could be in for one of the toughest years they have ever had to experience.

Now I would also like to point out that right now, as we speak, Russia is experiencing a spiritual renewal like perhaps it has never experienced before. It is a country that is in the process of turning over a brand leaf leaf, and it is a very GOOD leaf, that will bare many good fruits. But as with any transformation, there are always birthing pains before something new is born.

Also, The United States, and anyone who lives in the United States, MUST understand, that Russia is going to be the most important country that will be tied into the destiny and future of the United States if we expect our country to survive the coming years. There will be no other country that will be more important to keep as a friend than will be Russia during the year 2010. And this works both ways. If anyone who is Russian is reading this text, please understand that no matter how many problems the United States and Russia have had with each other in the past, at no other time in Russia's history is it going to be important to keep the United States as a close ally in the coming year. Simply put, our two countries are going to have to increase our friendship with each other more so than we have ever before. We absolutely, positively, beyond the shadow of a doubt, need to see each others countries as two arms of the same body, both working together for the benefit of the entire body as a whole. We must not allow ANY tensions to break us further apart from each other, because if we do it will only result in the possible destruction of each of our countries by themselves, and it is very likely that we could lose the possible war that I can see taking place with China this coming year if we do not work together as a team.

Russia deserves it's credit for World War 2. We have to, as a nation (the United States that is) give much of the credit to Russia for helping us win the war against that insane creature we refer to as Hitler. If not for Russia beating Hitler's army during the battles they faced in World War 2 on Russian territory, it is absolutely possible that Hitler and his minions would have taken total control of Russia and would therefore in turn have been successful in their campaign against the World. It is very important for the American people to understand that Russia during World War 2 was just as crucial as America was against the Japanese when it came to the final outcome of the success of the allies vs axis during that dangerous time in our modern day history. So for all the people of Russia, you should be extremely proud, because it was your country who defeated Hitler's army, and you played an extremely important role in that war, and helped all of us here in the United States of America turn the tide for the better sake of Humanity, and I for one salute you. And I appreciate your help in that war.

I'm going to get into my feelings about China during the year 2010 in my next post (which should be a little bit later tonight), but once again I can not stress the importance for the United States Government of forming an extremely tight bond with Russia and it's leaders, because more than ever before in our countries destiny's I believe they will be intertwined during the coming year, and it will be a year of extreme aggression between nations, and we will need each other to survive it, and to come out of it at the end in one piece. So I will leave it at that for now, and come back later to talk about the role that I believe China will play during 2010, which is only a month away from beginning. I will say that all of Eastern and even parts of Western Europe are going to be in extreme danger this coming year (2010), and that if the people in that part of the World thought they were going through rough times at the moment, then hold onto your seats my friends because you haven't seen anything yet.

China. A country with a secret. A country which keeps many secrets. A country which currently has leaders who are hungry for something. Very hungry and very eager for something indeed. And what is that something? Power. China's leaders know that the window for their opportunity for achieving dominance in the World is not going to last forever, and that they have a limited chance for making their move onto the World stage and to attempt to become the number one supreme superpower in the World. This is the goal that China's leaders are currently focusing on. Regardless of what the mainstream media is currently reporting about them.

China has been rapidly building up it's forces for one purpose and one purpose only. For an invasion. They have not been building up their forces for defensive purposes at all. And they are focusing nearly all of their attention and resources on planning for the invasion of their neighbor, Russia, whom as I said before is literally going to be the decisive factor during World War 3 if China chooses to use it's muscle to attempt to take control during the very tumultuous year that lies ahead of us. If China plans to take it's place as the dominant country in the World, as the United States had become in the past, then it knows that Russia stands in the way of it's success, and it is imperative to the Chinese leaders that Russia be subdued in order for their plans to work.

To the Russian people: China has been closely keeping tabs on your country and it's weaknesses for a few years now. They have run military exercises with your military because they have been looking for holes in your countries defenses, and trust me when I tell you that they have already found some, and are going to try and exploit them if they do indeed decide to launch there campaign in 2010. So to Russia, I have one word that your country and it's leaders need to focus on (and they are already beginning to realize this), DEFENSE. DEFENSE. DEFENSE. Your government should right now be putting nearly all of it's finances towards the buildup of your countries defenses, and your military focus should be at least 80% on defending the borders of your country, because if China chooses to do the unthinkable, it will decide to invade your nation. And it will attempt to crush your military capabilities, just as Hitler did not too long ago.

Russia is a thorn in China's side for dominance. The Chinese leaders do NOT wish to share control with Russia in any way shape or form. They may pretend to want to work with your country, but in fact behind the scenes they are planning to do the exact opposite, and Russia does not fit into the Chinese leader's plans for taking center stage.

And the Chinese leaders have two countries in mind for increasing their troop size. Mongolia and North Korea. This is where China will obtain a large percentage of it's troops from. Those two countries are going to be playing a very large role in China's plans during 2010 if China does choose to start World War 3. And you can bet that the North Korean and Mongolian leaders are already aware of this. It is no coincidence that the North Korean leaders seem to be getting braver and braver as the days pass, and it's not because of their plans to obtain nuclear weapons (as they would like us to believe), but it is instead because of the fact that they know that China has included them in it's plans for domination. And they truly do believe that they are going to be receiving a large piece of the pie in the event that China is successful.

And what about the Muslim nations that are currently causing trouble in certain parts of the World? What about them? They too have already been discussing things with various Chinese leaders, and they too are making plans to join the Chinese in their crusade if they do indeed push forward with their agenda. Some of the Muslim countries that are going to join sides with the Chinese are nations like Libya, Iran, and Syria. Those are some of the main countries to keep an eye on, because they have been working very closely with the Chinese behind the scenes. They are all waiting very patiently for China to make it's move....and they will continue to try and keep the focus of America on their part of the World, all while China sits back and prepares for it's major attack.

China, and all of it's allies, look for much of Europe to be their prize. They know that if they can take all of Eastern and some of Western Europe, that they can build an empire of epic proportions, and one that will dominate the World for hundreds of years to come.

This is the true reality of our situation. This is what has been taking place for quite awhile now. And if Russia does not prepare itself for the possible impending attacks, then it will be taken by storm and along with much if not all of Eastern Europe as well. Only Russia has the capability to protect it's close neighbors in the event of an attack from China. The American forces will be waging battle in the Middle East during that time and will not have the same capability that Russia will have to strategically use it's troops in that part of the World. The United States will in fact be pre-occupied with fighting it's battles in the Middle East, and will not be able to help Italy or any of it's close neighbors when the Chinese and Muslims attack it. So it will all depend on Russia, who will be waging it's own battles within it's own borders, and which will need all of the resources it can muster if it expects to hold off the Chinese army during the invasion.

The Chinese leaders know their history very well. And the one thing they learned from Hitler's failure in it's campaign against Russia is that the German leaders did not take the time to look at all the weaknesses that Russia had in it's defenses when Hitler decided to attack it. If the German forces had prepared themselves better, China knows that they would have had a better chance of defeating Russia's army, but Hitler was not a very patient man, and he was very arrogant, and his arrogance is what cost him the battle and eventually the entire war.

This is where China is different. The Chinese leaders have been very patient, and they are currently finishing up with the last of their plans for their attack. They are literally on the verge of implementing one of the largest military campaigns the World has ever known, and if they do indeed put their plans into action, then their attacks will lead to the sparking off of an all out World War 3.

The African nations that will join with the Chinese will be smaller in number than the Middle-Eastern nations that will join the side of China, but they are none of the less significant in China's strategy because of the fact that they will only increase the numbers of troops that China will have at it's disposal. And will therefore increase China's chances for ultimate victory.

So....is it possible that 2010 could pass without World War 3 taking place. Yes. And the only way I see this happening is if the Chinese people are successful at keeping their government from pushing ahead with the campaign that they have been so furiously planning for quite some time now. If the Chinese people can be successful in stopping their government from going to war, and even going so far as to topple communism within their nations borders, it is very possible that World War 3 will be avoided. And that will be one of the greatest gifts the World has ever received. And if not, then we (the people of the World) are in for some very troublesome times. The War (if it does take place) will last for only a few years, but during those few years, more people will be killed as a result of the war than at any other time in history. And 2010 is the year that I can see all of this begin to take shape.

However, the good news is, that if World War 3 does not begin in 2010, then I can tell you whole heartedly that I do not think it will begin at all, and that the World would have then avoided one of the most costly wars in it's existance, and that the people of the World will then breath an enormous sigh of relief. But it will all depend upon certain circumstances taking place, and we can only pray that the Chinese leaders for whatever reason are not able to put their current plans into action. If China does indeed make it's move on the World, then it will be almost impossible for the people of the World to fathom the exact amount of destruction that will take place, and to comprehend the Human death toll that will occur as a result of it all.

Perhaps many people do not realize this, but it was our (The United States of America's) sister country Russia who actually played a major part in saving the World from the first two Anti-Christ's of history who have previously both attempted unsuccessfully to conquer it and take it over.

For whatever reason, the Evil forces of the World have always focused their attention on Russia, and thought it to be a major hurdle in their plans for World conquest.

The first Anti-Christ, Napoleon Bonaparte, was unsuccessful in his attempt to take total control of the Russian empire. Try as he might, Russia put up the biggest challenge against Napoleon Bonaparte and his army, greatly decreasing the number of troops in his army, and ultimately being the decisive factor that eventually led to Napoleon's surrender.

The French invasion of Russia in 1812 marked a turning point in Napoleon's fortunes. His Grande Armée was badly damaged in the campaign and never fully recovered. Napolean greatly wanted an alliance with the Middle-Eastern powers at that time in order to attempt to wage a successful campaign against Russia. An alliance with Middle-Eastern powers would have the strategic advantage of pressuring Russia on its southern border. From 1803, Napoleon went to considerable lengths to try to convince the Ottoman Empire to fight against Russia in the Balkans and join his anti-Russian coalition.

Napoleon sent General Horace Sebastiani as envoy extraordinary, promising to help the Ottoman Empire recover lost territories. In February 1806, following Napoleon's victory at Austerlitz and the ensuing dismemberment of the Habsburg Empire, the Ottoman Emperor Selim III finally recognized Napoleon as Emperor, formally opting for an alliance with France "our sincere and natural ally", and war with Russia and England. A Franco-Persian alliance was also formed, from 1807 to 1809, between Napoleon and the Persian Empire of Fath Ali Shah, against Russia and Great Britain.

The Fourth Coalition was assembled in 1806, and Napoleon defeated Prussia at the Battle of Jena-Auerstedt in October. He marched against advancing Russian armies through Poland, and was involved in the bloody stalemate of the Battle of Eylau on 6 February 1807. By 1812, advisers to Alexander suggested the possibility of an invasion of the French Empire and the recapture of Poland. On receipt of intelligence reports on Russia's war preparations, Napoleon expanded his Grande Armée to more than 450,000 men. He ignored repeated advice against an invasion of the vast Russian heartland and prepared for an offensive campaign; on 23 June 1812, his invasion of Russia commenced.

In an attempt to gain increased support from Polish nationalists and patriots, Napoleon termed the war the Second Polish War—the First Polish War had been the Bar Confederation uprising by Polish nobles against Russia in 1768. Polish patriots wanted the Russian part of Poland to be joined with the Duchy of Warsaw and an independent Poland created. This was rejected by Napoleon, who stated he had promised his ally Austria (The birthplace of the second Anti-Christ - Adolf Hitler) that this would not happen. Napoleon refused to manumit the Russian serfs, due to concerns this might provoke a reaction in his army's rear. The serfs would later commit atrocities against French soldiers during France's retreat.

The Russians avoided Napoleon's objective of a decisive engagement and instead retreated deeper into Russia. A brief attempt at resistance was made at Smolensk in August; the Russians were defeated in a series of battles and Napoleon resumed his advance. The Russians again avoided battle, although in a few cases this was only achieved because Napoleon uncharacteristically hesitated to attack when the opportunity arose. Due to the Russian army's scorched earth tactics, the French found it increasingly difficult to forage food for themselves and their horses. The Russians eventually offered battle outside Moscow on 7 September: the Battle of Borodino resulted in approximately 44,000 Russian and 35,000 French, dead, wounded or captured, and may have been the bloodiest day of battle in history up to that point. Although the French had won, the Russian army had accepted, and withstood, the major battle Napoleon had hoped would be decisive. Napoleon's own account was: "The most terrible of all my battles was the one before Moscow. The French showed themselves to be worthy of victory, but the Russians showed themselves worthy of being invincible."

The Russian army withdrew and retreated past Moscow. Napoleon entered the city, assuming its fall would end the war and Alexander would negotiate peace. However, on orders of the city's governor Fyodor Rostopchin, rather than capitulation, Moscow was ordered burned. After a month, concerned about loss of control back in France, Napoleon and his army left. The French suffered greatly in the course of a ruinous retreat, including from the harshness of the Russian Winter. Napolean's Armée had begun as over 400,000 frontline troops, but in the end fewer than 40,000 crossed the Berezina River in November 1812, to escape. The Russians had lost 150,000 in battle and hundreds of thousands of civilians.

There was a lull in fighting over the winter of 1812–13 while both the Russians and the French rebuilt their forces; Napoleon was then able to field 350,000 troops. Heartened by France's loss in Russia, Prussia joined with Austria, Sweden, Russia, Great Britain, Spain, and Portugal in a new coalition. Napoleon assumed command in Germany and inflicted a series of defeats on the Coalition culminating in the Battle of Dresden in August 1813. Despite these successes, the numbers continued to mount against Napoleon and the French army was pinned down by a force twice its size and lost at the Battle of Leipzig. This was by far the largest battle of the Napoleonic Wars and cost more than 90,000 casualties in total.

Napoleon attempted suicide with a pill he had carried since a near-capture by Russians on the retreat from Moscow. Its potency had weakened with age and he survived to be exiled, while his wife and son took refuge in Vienna.

Soon after Napoleon's army suffered severe casualties in his campaign against the Russian empire, Napolean eventually ended up surrendering and being exiled to Saint Helena.

I find extremely interesting that the first Anti-Christ (Napoleon Bonaparte), wanted so badly to take over the Russian empire, but was never successful in doing so, and his army suffered the most casualties in Russia than it did anywhere else, and it was this reason that ultimately led to his defeat. The same exact scenario played out with the 2nd Anti-Christ (Adolf Hitler), when he too wanted so badly to take over the Russian empire and he too failed in the process, also suffering an extreme loss of men during the war against Russia which, just like Napoleon Bonaparte before him, ended up being the main reason his campaign against the World was ultimately unsuccessful.

For whatever reason, God has chosen Russia to be the beacon of hope against the first two Anti-Christs of the World, and according to Edgar Cayce, the famous sleeping prophet, and also according to the famous prophet Jeane Dixon, Russia will once again become a beacon of hope for the World in our near future if the World enters yet another World War (World War 3) against China and it's allies.

Why God has chosen Russia I don't know. What is clear though is that God has also chosen another country to guide Humanity to peace, and that The United States in our current day has also recently become a beacon of hope for the World, and along with all of her allies. But what cannot be denied though is that Russia has saved the World from disaster twice already (once for America as well), and it is for this reason that we should all bow our heads to Russia in rememberence of these facts, and we should not look at Russia as an enemy of our homeland, but rather as a special friend who has ironicly had similar roles to play in the World that mirrior in many ways the role that the United States is playing today.

Two of the most Evil forces the World has ever known have both tried, but failed, to corrupt and to ultimately control the Motherland of Russia. They have tried both from the outside and within Russia itself, to conquer the Russian people and to use them for their twisted will. But it was Russia who prevailed under these circumstances, and has shined through the darkness in both instances where it was forced to come face to face with an Anti-Christ figure and his enormous army. Even though starving and outnumbered, in both cases Russia has managed to not only defeat the two Anti-Christ's of the past, but has also managed to be one of the main factors in turning the course of the direction of history in the favor of Love and Peace and all that is Good and Well.

As mentioned before, the second Anti-Christ (Adolf Hitler) also lost his campaign against the Russian Empire:

In the latter stages of World War 2, On Germany's eastern front, the Axis defeated Soviet offensives in the Kerch Peninsula and at Kharkov and then launched their main summer offensive against southern Russia in June 1942, to seize the oil fields of the Caucasus. The Soviets decided to make their stand at Stalingrad which was in the path of the advancing German armies. By mid-November the Germans had nearly taken Stalingrad in bitter street fighting when the Soviets began their second winter counter-offensive, starting with an encirclement of German forces at Stalingrad and an assault on the Rzhev salient near Moscow, though the latter failed disastrously. By early February 1943, the German Army had taken tremendous losses; German troops at Stalingrad had been forced to surrender and the front-line had been pushed back beyond its position before the summer offensive. In mid-February, after the Soviet push had tapered off, the Germans launched another attack on Kharkov, creating a salient in their front line around the Russian city of Kursk.

In the Soviet Union, both the Germans and the Soviets spent the spring and early summer of 1943 making preparations for large offensives in Central Russia. On July 4, 1943, Germany attacked Soviet forces around the Kursk Bulge. Within a week, German forces had exhausted themselves against the Soviets' deeply echeloned and well-constructed defences and, for the first time in the war, Hitler cancelled the operation before it had achieved tactical or operational success. This decision was partially affected by the Western Allies' invasion of Sicily launched on July 9 which, combined with previous Italian failures, resulted in the ousting and arrest of Mussolini later that month. On July 12, 1943, the Soviets launched their own counter-offensives, thereby dispelling any hopes of the German Army for victory or even stalemate in the east. The Soviet victory at Kursk was one of the decisive turning points of the war, giving the Soviet Union the initiative on the Eastern Front. The Germans attempted to stabilise their eastern front along the hastily fortified Panther-Wotan line, however, the Soviets broke through it at Smolensk and by the Lower Dnieper Offensives.

By the end of January, a major Soviet offensive expelled German forces from the Leningrad region, ending the longest and most lethal siege in history. The following Soviet offensive was halted on the pre-war Estonian border by the German Army Group North aided by Estonians hoping to re-establish national independence. This delay slowed subsequent Soviet operations in the Baltic Sea region. By late May 1944, the Soviets had liberated Crimea, largely expelled Axis forces from Ukraine and made incursions into Romania, which were repulsed by the Axis troops.

On June 22, the Soviets launched a strategic offensive in Belarus (known as "Operation Bagration") that resulted in the almost complete destruction of the German Army Group Centre. Soon after that, another Soviet strategic offensive forced German troops from Western Ukraine and Eastern Poland. The Red Army's strategic offensive in eastern Romania cut off and destroyed the considerable German troops there and triggered a successful coup d'état in Romania and in Bulgaria, followed by those countries' shift to the Allied side.

In September 1944, Soviet Red Army troops advanced into Yugoslavia and forced the rapid withdrawal of the German Army Groups E and F in Greece, Albania and Yugoslavia to rescue them from being cut off. By this point, Communist-led partisans under Marshal Josip Broz Tito controlled much of the territory of Yugoslavia and were engaged in delaying efforts against the German forces further south. In northern Serbia, the Red Army, with limited support from Bulgarian forces, assisted the partisans in a joint liberation of the capital city of Belgrade on October 20. A few days later, the Soviets launched a massive assault against German-occupied Hungary that lasted until the fall of Budapest in February 1945.

In February, the Soviets invaded Silesia and Pomerania, while Western Allied forces entered Western Germany and closed to the Rhine river. In March, the Western Allies crossed the Rhine north and south of the Ruhr, encircling a large number of German troops, while the Soviets advanced to Vienna. In early April the Western Allies finally pushed forward in Italy and swept across Western Germany, while in late April Soviet forces stormed Berlin; the two forces linked up on Elbe river on April 25.

German forces surrendered in Italy on April 29 and in Western Europe on May 7. On the Eastern Front, Germany surrendered to the Soviets on May 8.

Again, thanks to Russia's help in defeating Hitler and his army, The United States and Russia were successful in saving the World from yet another Anti-Christ who was bent on it's destruction. No two countries in our modern day history have been more influential in fighting and winning the wars against the two previous Anti-Christs. Only the United States and it's sister Russia can claim such an honor. Although other countries were influential in winning the war against them, it was the United States and Russia who had the most impact on achieving peace for the World after defeating these two Evil figures of the past.

And the bottom line folks, is that the United States and Russia must remain friends, and MUST work together, if the World is to find peace.

In the words of the Grand Daddy Himself:

Edgar Cayce: "Russia will become beacons of hope for the world. Through Russia, comes the hope of the world. Not in respect to what is sometimes termed Communism or Bolshevism -- no! But freedom -- freedom! That each man will live for his fellow man. The principle has been born there. It will take years for it to be crystallized; yet out of Russia comes again the hope of the world."

In the word's of one of the World's most famous female seers:

Jeane Dixon: "History will demonstrate that the test-ban treaty was bad for America and will be used against us. It is in our national interest to trade with Russia, although this trade will benefit the Kremlin more than us. Then will come a turning point, and we will align ourselves with Russia in the war against Red China."

Either we (The United States and Russia) will walk towards peace together, or we won't walk towards it at all.

2010 will come and go and in 2011 we will celebrate another new year with more predictions of the apocalypse. China is a booming country; it is becoming commercial and more ‘Western’ every year.

They do not now, nor have had any interest in anything outside their own boarders; they are rich in natural resources and have no reason what-so-ever to suddenly go to war with Russia.

If you have any concerns it should be worrying about the continued tensions with Iran.

At least we no longer have to wait for the end of 2012 before we can put absolute evidence into these paranoid catastrophe threads that they're bunkum. It's like a reprieve to a jail term, two years off the tariff.

I'll be back to the thread in a year and a month.

The thousands of posts we've suffered on this topic are an abuse of the ability to write. Will you step back a moment and consider a helpful question? Here it is: would you consider it reasonable for a disaster-monger like yourself to have a good previous track record when it comes to successful predictions, if he's to be paid attention to with his current set?

Assuming you managed to answer "yes", could you point us to your good previous track record with material along the lines of "I must tell all of you who are reading this, I am VERY worried about this coming year and what it will mean for the entire World"? Or have you never been worried by previous disasters? The banking crisis of 2008, for example, or the current world recession? You started posting on ForumGarden in February 2006, perhaps you could show us posts from your first two years here that accurately predicted these rather major events on the horizon?

Or, if that's an inappropriate question, why do you think it's inappropriate?

No need to get upset. Guys. I just said that I have a very strong feeling that if it happens at all that it will happen this year. I never said that it's going to happen for sure, show me where in this thread I said that. The Possible Pole-Shift around 2012 is something that I am at least 80% sure is going to happen, but when it comes to World War 3, I would say I am at least 50% sure it's going to happen.

Plus, I don't make predictions like a prophet does. I am not a prophet. Or a psychic. And I don't ever pretend to be one. What I do know is what I believe, and I do believe China wants Russia. Of course we could argue about this all day, But that's what I believe and I'm sticking to it. If the 3rd Anti-Christ is indeed going to be born in an Asian country like Nostradamus claims, then I believe it will be in China or Mongolia that he will have been born. And I do believe he is already here, and that he has already been born. And just like the other two before him, he's going to want to conquer Russia.

Now you can go off of what I believe, or you can go off of what the American CIA believes. According to the Writer Gordon Thomas (An expert on China and relations between the Untied States and China) who wrote the book called Seeds of Fire:



http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/produc ... 1893302547

Here's the CIA's version of what will happen between the United States and China:

Here are a few of the CIA's very startling predictions:

1. China's economic growth will be greater than that of all of Europe by the year 2010, while Russia's will only be 1/5th of the United States.

2. China will incite a full-scale trade war by 2010.

3. China will promote various terrorist groups to align and atack the U.S.

4. By 2015, the U.S. will surrender its role as World policeman.

5. By 2015, a MAJOR WAR will break out between the U.S. and China!

6. Finally, a direct quote from the CIA's "Global Trends 2015" report: "China, as it becomes increasingly the NEW SUPERPOWER of the Third Millennium, is likely to provide biological and chemical weapons and "suitcase" nuclear devices to wage terror against the United States."

Now either the CIA is crazy for thinking it's going to happen 5 years out from this coming year, or I'm crazy for thinking it's going to happen this coming year (if it does happen at all), or both. But just because I have an opinion on the matter doesn't make me crazy. Same goes for the CIA or Gordon Thomas.

What about the 1st Anti-Christ (Napoleon Bonaparte)? What was his feelings about China again?

Early in the 19th century, Napoleon Bonaparte warned the West to "let China sleep": "There lies a sleeping giant", began his famous phrase, "let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world."

Well folks, China is awake! And we are partly responsible for awaking her after making her our most favored trading partner for the past 20 years. So all I have to say about the matter is, get ready people, because the Worlds about to shake.

Scrat;1270713 wrote: A little harsh spot? It's just talk is all.


Makes no difference, does it. I don't think he reads his own threads half the time.

By 2015, a MAJOR WAR will break out between the U.S. and China!

6. Finally, a direct quote from the CIA's "Global Trends 2015" report: "China, as it becomes increasingly the NEW SUPERPOWER of the Third Millennium, is likely to provide biological and chemical weapons and "suitcase" nuclear devices to wage terror against the United States."


That is the kind of paranoid reasoning that becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

The reality is saidi arabia has managed to get the united states to make it the most powerful state in the middles east by destroying those countries powerful enough to stand up to it. It has it's hand on the oil jugular of the world's economy-for the foreseeable future. wahibism might still bite them though since they can't actually control the fanatics. An anlogy might nazis and their funding and encouragement by the industrial elites-then they found they couldn't control him.

China is more likely to go to war against pakistan if it becomes a fundamentalist islamic state since it's right on their border and they are already showing signs of concern.

The rearming of china over the last twenty year or so is in response to a USA openly prepared to use military means to get it's own way and in pursuit of its economic interests. (as perceived by powerful interest groups). A doctrine of Pre-emptive or preventative war would make anyone wary. If china or russia came out with that kind of thing what would be the US response? Hopefully america has left behind the delusion that it can carry on throwing it's military weight around with impunity and without getting it's soldiers killed and it's actually better in the long run to trade fairly with other nations and not demand you own way all the time. Warfare is not the sanitary pursuit Bush et al thought it was people shoot back and the American people have an irritating habit of being able to spot bullshit eventually.

As the Russian economy grows trade with china and Europe and china's trade with Europe and russia will become more important-america is no longer the economic powerhouse it once was-personally I think you can lay the blame for that on right wing economic policies that put short term profit over long term growth and sees people as economic units.

South America is no longer the basket case it once was-maybe because ameruca has been distracted from de-stabilising regimes that think oil revenues and the like should be used to benefit their people.

The UK? we're going to end up a senile old maid off the shores of europe clinging on to past glories and deluded in to thinking we are still a major player if only in terms of moral leadership-mind you tony blair pissed that one away didn't he. -but then we've been in dire straits before so who knows.

TruthBringer;1270774 wrote:

Here's the CIA's version of what will happen between the United States and China:

Here are a few of the CIA's very startling predictions:

1. China's economic growth will be greater than that of all of Europe by the year 2010, while Russia's will only be 1/5th of the United States. Already there, expected to grow 8.8%.. so what?

2. China will incite a full-scale trade war by 2010. Trade war between who? They already have a low cost market. However, one issue not taken into account in this global market is logistics, with rising fuel costs it is getting more expensive to transport products out of low cost markets.

3. China will promote various terrorist groups to align and atack the U.S. Now why would they do that? China own 1/3 of USA debt and fund their central bank with US currency, this makes no sense.

4. By 2015, the U.S. will surrender its role as World policeman. The first mistake is thinking that they are the world's policeman. The US army only goes where it interests US foreign policy.

5. By 2015, a MAJOR WAR will break out between the U.S. and China!

No evidence of this at all. Do you know that there are more English speaking people in China now than there are in the USA. 80,000 graduates a year in China speak English fluently.

6. Finally, a direct quote from the CIA's "Global Trends 2015" report: "China, as it becomes increasingly the NEW SUPERPOWER of the Third Millennium, is likely to provide biological and chemical weapons and "suitcase" nuclear devices to wage terror against the United States."

Surprise! They have always been a superpower, they just stay to themselves and don’t go around invading other countries. Has the USA, Russia or anyone else ever fecked with China?? No way. Nothing new here, but the new superpower will be the European Union who have agreed with the Lisbon Treated to form a unified European army.

Now either the CIA is crazy for thinking it's going to happen 5 years out from this coming year, or I'm crazy for thinking it's going to happen this coming year (if it does happen at all), or both. But just because I have an opinion on the matter doesn't make me crazy. Same goes for the CIA or Gordon Thomas.


You are not crazy, you just like this kind of stuff.

I've thought for awhile now that we are being 'groomed' for WW3. whether it happens because of the reasons you've stated or for the enviromental/carbon/water issues I'm not sure. but I'm sure as hell it's all made up to panic the average sod on the streets who will then agree to anything to cover (they will think ) their own sorry arses.

Oh well I can't stop it.:)

Scrat;1270948 wrote: Considering history and human nature Britain may be on the outside looking in with America. Anglos are not looked upon kindly for the most part in large parts of this world.


Thankfully I'm not one of those.

thats it im scared just taken delivery of 3000 tins of baked beans 200 gallons of bottle water and 600 rolls of soft aloe vera toilet paper

and does any one know how thick my new bunker needs to be to survive a nuclear bomb blast



o dam beans are out of date end of this year dam ebay i forgot i cant stand water

and how was i to know i was allergic to aloe vera



but at least my bunker should keep me well if i ever get the money to finish it

el guapo;1270995 wrote: thats it im scared just taken delivery of 3000 tins of baked beans 200 gallons of bottle water and 600 rolls of soft aloe vera toilet paper

and does any one know how thick my new bunker needs to be to survive a nuclear bomb blast



o dam beans are out of date end of this year dam ebay i forgot i cant stand water

and how was i to know i was allergic to aloe vera



but at least my bunker should keep me well if i ever get the money to finish it


I can't answer your question as to how thick it needs to be but I suspect drowning in your own effluence might be a more immediate problem.:-3

Here's a good question, why would china ever attack the US when she owns a huge amount of our debt? That's like guaranteeing you'll lose your money.

mikeinie;1270830 wrote: You are not crazy, you just like this kind of stuff.


You are very perceptive my friend. We will need people like you if the Pole-Shift does occur.

Because you and I both know, that if Prophecy is real, than it means that there is an order behind everything, and that there is a greater power in control.

And if Prophecy is not real, and if there is not an order behind the events that change the course of Humanity, than it means that there is utter chaos, and that no one is in control, and that the World is completely unfair and completely unpurposeful. Along with everything that lives on it.

If I am 50% sure that World War 3 could happen, sometime during this coming year (2010), and I am 80% sure that the Pole-Shift is going to happen, than you should know that I am 100% positive that Prophecy is real.

There are only two types of forces in the World. One that operates on Order and stability. The other which operates on Chaos and complete disobedience to any law. I worship the first one. Which one do you worship?

el guapo;1270995 wrote: thats it im scared just taken delivery of 3000 tins of baked beans 200 gallons of bottle water and 600 rolls of soft aloe vera toilet paper

and does any one know how thick my new bunker needs to be to survive a nuclear bomb blast



o dam beans are out of date end of this year dam ebay i forgot i cant stand water

and how was i to know i was allergic to aloe vera



but at least my bunker should keep me well if i ever get the money to finish it


Here's my thoughts on the Pole-Shift.

Even if doesn't happen, and even if the skeptics are right about that, shouldn't the whole World be preparing as if it is going to happen? Or are we really all that stupid that we are going to sit there until 2012 rolls around, and keep telling ourselves that everything is going to be ok?

If we prepare, and it doesn't happen, then oh well, at least we put things into place so that if it ever does happen we will be ready.

If we do not prepare, and it does happen, we will have wished we had.

I've already told you guys before that 2011 is going to blow your minds. If you think the weather is weird now than you won't believe your eyes when we come to that year.

December 21st, 2012 is only a few years away. I'm not sure if the governments of the World have been preparing or not. I'm sure the government of the United States has been preparing for awhile now, and I would bet that they were the first to aquire the knowledge of what's really going to happen. Unfortunately for us, our government likes to wait till the last minute to tell the people what's really going on so whatever they are doing at the moment is probably in secret. If the governments of the World haven't been preparing though than they need to get off their asses RIGHT NOW and start putting things into action.

gmc;1271026 wrote: I can't answer your question as to how thick it needs to be but I suspect drowning in your own effluence might be a more immediate problem.:-3


with all the out of date bean i think gas may be the final blow

TruthBringer;1271040 wrote: Here's my thoughts on the Pole-Shift.

Even if doesn't happen, and even if the skeptics are right about that, shouldn't the whole World be preparing as if it is going to happen? Or are we really all that stupid that we are going to sit there until 2012 rolls around, and keep telling ourselves that everything is going to be ok?

If we prepare, and it doesn't happen, then oh well, at least we put things into place so that if it ever does happen we will be ready.

If we do not prepare, and it does happen, we will have wished we had.

I've already told you guys before that 2011 is going to blow your minds. If you think the weather is weird now than you won't believe your eyes when we come to that year.

December 21st, 2012 is only a few years away. I'm not sure if the governments of the World have been preparing or not. I'm sure the government of the United States has been preparing for awhile now, and I would bet that they were the first to aquire the knowledge of what's really going to happen. Unfortunately for us, our government likes to wait till the last minute to tell the people what's really going on so whatever they are doing at the moment is probably in secret. If the governments of the World haven't been preparing though than they need to get off their asses RIGHT NOW and start putting things into action.


Now this is a point that I can agree with mostly. It is my thought on the whole global warming issue.

While the world debates on the facts and fiction of the global warming cry, it is true or not? Is it global warming or global cooling? I say “what does it matter? It is the point that we know that we are over consuming resources and polluting our planet, and that there are alternative solutions.

Therefore, never mind if the argument is right or wrong, the point is that it is the right thing to do purely on the point that it reducing our impact on the planet.

If the global warming argument is wrong, so what? At least we are moving in the right direction, otherwise businesses and governments would never invest in such changes. If it is right, then again we have done the right thing.

So in light of your argument, you are in fact correct. I

If we refuse to believe that there is a risk of a 3rd world war, be it next year or anytime, then we would not be mobilized to take the steps to prevent it. We should always be fighting for peace, because it is the right thing to do.

Global shift, well, I don’t think we could prevent that from happening even if it was to happen as it is not manmade, so I don’t worry about what I can’t control.

mikeinie;1271217 wrote: If we refuse to believe that there is a risk of a 3rd world war, be it next year or anytime, then we would not be mobilized to take the steps to prevent it. We should always be fighting for peace, because it is the right thing to do.I can't believe there are people still arguing in favour of permanent mobilization. The Russians and the USA both possess a reset button, they have enough nuclear deterrent to prevent any attack whatever. Where does this additional requirement for a large armed force come from, in terms of preventing an outbreak of World War? It's never going to be fought. If anything happens it's going to consist of tens of thousands of nuclear warheads exploding, not tanks and parachute drops.

spot;1271250 wrote: I can't believe there are people still arguing in favour of permanent mobilization. The Russians and the USA both possess a reset button, they have enough nuclear deterrent to prevent any attack whatever. Where does this additional requirement for a large armed force come from, in terms of preventing an outbreak of World War? It's never going to be fought. If anything happens it's going to consist of tens of thousands of nuclear warheads exploding, not tanks and parachute drops.


'permanent mobilization'??? where did that come from?

That is not what I meant by fighting for peace, or being ready for 'it'.

What I meant is people (not armies) cannot be complacent and need always to be politically active and involved in the event that go on around them, as soon as the people sit back and start doing nothing, anything can happen.

Then I misread your post. If you go back and look at it, it's a reasonable interpretation of what you wrote.

spot;1271257 wrote: Then I mid-read your post. If you go back and look at it, it's a reasonable interpretation of what you wrote.


True, my us of the word 'mobilize' perhaps was not chosen well, I could see how you would take that up the way you did.

mikeinie;1271217 wrote:

Global shift, well, I don’t think we could prevent that from happening even if it was to happen as it is not manmade, so I don’t worry about what I can’t control.


True but we can definately start possibly building bunkers and such for people to go into and stuff. Or possibly build ships similar to ones like in the movie 2012. Or maybe start relocating people from all different nations to places that would be safer than others. Time is running out to prepare if it turns out something major does happen.

TruthBringer;1271392 wrote: True but we can definately start possibly building bunkers and such for people to go into and stuff. Or possibly build ships similar to ones like in the movie 2012. Or maybe start relocating people from all different nations to places that would be safer than others. Time is running out to prepare if it turns out something major does happen.


Like Mars, maybe that is why they are planning on exporing that planet, they know our days are numbered and we will need to move there for a period of time.

Now it is all making sense.

If none of this happens I think you should distribute all your worldly goods to the members of forumgarden in recompense for getting us all very worried. If you really believe all this stuff then making such a commitment should not be a problem as you know you won't have to actually give it away.

However, why delay the inevitable, start now so we can enjoy our last few days on earth and you can feel magnanimous.

The only way IMO there mighty have been a world war was if another right wing nutter like George Bush got elected to the US presidency. The last thing you need is someone who believes god talks to him in control of a nuclear arsenal and convinced it was his god given duty to put the world to rights-and save the oil.

Why is it so many people people believe in ridiculous bible prophecy but think global warming is a scam designed to ruin the US economy?.

I remember vaguely watching the cuban missile crisis on TV. Given my age it must have been the reaction of the adults around me that I remember. That is the closest we have come to full scale nuclear war. Interestingly enough provoked by the states placing nuclear weapons in Turkey, understandably the russians were a bit nervous about that. Now a lot of the confidential papers have been released we can get a better idea of what happened. interestingly enough Kennedy was having problems controlling the military. As part of the deal the US was supposed to remove the bombs from turkey but didn't do so.

gmc;1271600 wrote: If none of this happens I think you should distribute all your worldly goods to the members of forumgarden in recompense for getting us all very worried. If you really believe all this stuff then making such a commitment should not be a problem as you know you won't have to actually give it away.

However, why delay the inevitable, start now so we can enjoy our last few days on earth and you can feel magnanimous.

The only way IMO there mighty have been a world war was if another right wing nutter like George Bush got elected to the US presidency. The last thing you need is someone who believes god talks to him in control of a nuclear arsenal and convinced it was his god given duty to put the world to rights-and save the oil.

Why is it so many people people believe in ridiculous bible prophecy but think global warming is a scam designed to ruin the US economy?.

I remember vaguely watching the cuban missile crisis on TV. Given my age it must have been the reaction of the adults around me that I remember. That is the closest we have come to full scale nuclear war. Interestingly enough provoked by the states placing nuclear weapons in Turkey, understandably the russians were a bit nervous about that. Now a lot of the confidential papers have been released we can get a better idea of what happened. interestingly enough Kennedy was having problems controlling the military. As part of the deal the US was supposed to remove the bombs from turkey but didn't do so.


If none of this happens, I will never take prophecy as serious in my life ever again, and I will relax my grip on the future and will concentrate more on just living my life. Without giving a **** about what's going to happen tomorrow.

But....Only if none of this happens. Including the Pole-Shift around 2012 by the way. I won't apolagize for this stuff though, not this stuff because I sincerely believed it with all my Heart. And I am a firm believer that you should follow your Heart no matter what.

The good news is, we only have to wait until December 21st, 2012 for any of this to materialize. So it's not that far away, and I am still fairly young and so I wouldn't have wasted too much of my life's time on this stuff and would be able to recooperate fairly easily if none of it came to pass. But I've already told myself, my Father, and a few others, and now you guys, that if none of this stuff happens then I'm not taking any of this kind of **** seriously ever again.

gmc;1271600 wrote:

However, why delay the inevitable, start now so we can enjoy our last few days on earth and you can feel magnanimous.




You know why I enjoy making mistakes...it's because the Truth shows itself to you after you make a mistake. It's a guarantee.

And in this case I can see what certain people have been harboring against me. If you're wondering if I will feel good that perhaps I may have helped educate some people on here about what might be happening in the near future, then you are right, I absolutely will. But like I have said so many times before, I never claimed to be a prophet, just a messenger. I pass on the messages of the prophets, and that's what I enjoy doing.

But as to your quote above, I don't know how many times I have had to tell you guys this before, the World is not going to completely end. And there will still be people left on it. Whether that's going to be you or not I couldn't tell you. So it won't end for everybody but maybe just for you. Or for me. If it goes completely pitch black for you and your eyes glaze over then your body isn't going to give a damn anyways. So I wouldn't worry about that part too much.

But you guys have to understand something here. Nobody follows someone's advice when they are sitting on the fence of an issue. They will listen to their opinion but they will not take that person as seriously as if they had chosen one side or the other. So what I MUST do in order for people to take me seriously with what I post, is to choose an absolute side on the matter, not say, "Well guys, I have been reading some interesting stuff that COULD happen. And it looks like it COULD happen within the next few years. So what I'm going to need you people to do is to take me serious when I start explaining how to prepare for it. Is that alright?"

F that. I'm going Balls Deep with what I post. And I always choose a side. And if that side crashes and burns, then so be it. And in this case I believe that this stuff is going to happen. And I believe that you guys need to start getting ready for it. And that's the side I've chosen.

TruthBringer;1271767 wrote: You know why I enjoy making mistakes...it's because the Truth shows itself to you after you make a mistake. It's a guarantee.

And in this case I can see what certain people have been harboring against me. If you're wondering if I will feel good that perhaps I may have helped educate some people on here about what might be happening in the near future, then you are right, I absolutely will. But like I have said so many times before, I never claimed to be a prophet, just a messenger. I pass on the messages of the prophets, and that's what I enjoy doing.

But as to your quote above, I don't know how many times I have had to tell you guys this before, the World is not going to completely end. And there will still be people left on it. Whether that's going to be you or not I couldn't tell you. So it won't end for everybody but maybe just for you. Or for me. If it goes completely pitch black for you and your eyes glaze over then your body isn't going to give a damn anyways. So I wouldn't worry about that part too much.

But you guys have to understand something here. Nobody follows someone's advice when they are sitting on the fence of an issue. They will listen to their opinion but they will not take that person as seriously as if they had chosen one side or the other. So what I MUST do in order for people to take me seriously with what I post, is to choose an absolute side on the matter, not say, "Well guys, I have been reading some interesting stuff that COULD happen. And it looks like it COULD happen within the next few years. So what I'm going to need you people to do is to take me serious when I start explaining how to prepare for it. Is that alright?"

F that. I'm going Balls Deep with what I post. And I always choose a side. And if that side crashes and burns, then so be it. And in this case I believe that this stuff is going to happen. And I believe that you guys need to start getting ready for it. And that's the side I've chosen.


My side is it's a load of bollocks and I'm not wasting my time worrying about it. But I know what you mean. At one point I was convinced full scale nuclear war was inevitable, it's actually more likely when everything is automated and all it takes is the touch of a button that you can't recall-like you can with bombers. In the eighties there were a couple of times when those systems almost did start a war-luckily humans kept the final say. When you watch films from the eighties like the original terminator film , or even mad max bear that in mind the atmosphere it was made in. Mutually assured destruction did actually work imo but if war between the major powers ever starts it will very quickly go nuclear. It's when you get politicians that think they can win such a war you need top worry and common sense doesn't come in to it.

Obama Threatens China and Iran, Another U.S. War?

Politics / US Politics

Feb 02, 2010 - 02:20 AM

By: Shamus_Cooke

The possibility of yet another U.S. war became more real last week, when the Obama administration sharply confronted both China and Iran. The first aggressive act was performed by Obama’s Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, who “warned” China that it must support serious economic sanctions against Iran (an act of war).

Clinton said: “China will be under a lot of pressure to recognize the destabilizing effect that a nuclear-armed Iran would have, from which they receive a significant percentage of their oil supply.”

The implication here is that China will be cut off from a major energy source if they do not support U.S. foreign policy — this, too, would equal an act of war.

A more direct military provocation occurred later when Obama agreed to honor a Bush-era military pact with Taiwan, a small island that lies off the mainland coast of China, and is claimed by China as its own territory. Taiwan has been a U.S. client state ever since the defeated nationalist forces fled there from China in the aftermath of the 1949 revolution. Taiwan has remained a bastion of U.S. intrigue and anti-China agitation for the past six decades. Obama has recently upped the ante by approving a $6.4 billion arms sale to Taiwan, including:

“... 60 Black Hawk helicopters, Patriot interceptor missiles, advanced Harpoon missiles that can be used against land or ship targets and two refurbished minesweepers.” (The New York Times, January 30, 2010).

The same article quotes a Chinese government official who responded, accurately, by calling the arms sale “… a gross intervention intoChina’s internal affairs, [and] seriously endanger[ing] China’s national security…” In 1962, When Russia supplied missiles to Cuba, nearFlorida’s coast, the U.S. interpreted this to be an act of war.

China responded harshly to the Taiwan arms deals, imposing “an unusually broad series of retaliatory measures… including sanctions against American companies that supply the weapon systems for the arms sales.” These U.S. arms manufacturers are giant corporations who have huge political influence in the Obama administration, and are likely to further push the U.S. government towards an even more aggressive response.

Obama’s polices against China have been far more aggressive than Bush’s, making a farce out of his campaign promises of a more peaceful foreign policy. Obama’s same, deceitful approach is used in South America, where he promised “non-intervention” and then proceeded to build military bases in Colombia on Venezuela’s border, while giving a green light to the coup in Honduras.

Hillary Clinton also threatened China about internet censorship last week, while Obama consciously provoked China by agreeing to talks with the Dalai Lama, who advocates the removal of Chinese influence from Tibet.

Still fresh in the memories of both the U.S. and China is the recent trade flair up, when Obama imposed taxes on Chinese imports; and China responded with protectionist measures against U.S. companies, which brings us to the heart of the matter.

The attitude of the U.S. government towards China has nothing to do with the Dalai Lama, internet censorship, or human rights. These excuses are used as diplomatic jabs in the framework of a larger, geopolitical brawl. Chinese corporations are expanding rapidly in the wake of the decline of the U.S. business class, and Obama is using a variety of measures to counteract this dynamic, with all roads leading to war.

This grand chessboard of corporate and military maneuvering reached a dangerous standoff yesterday, with the U.S. military provoking Iran. The New York Times explains:

“The Obama administration is accelerating the deployment of new defenses against possible Iranian missile attacks in the Persian Gulf, placing special ships [war ships] off the Iranian coast and antimissile systems in at least four [surrounding] Arab countries, according to administration and military officials.” (January 30, 2010).

The same article mentions that U.S. General Petraeus admitted that “… the United States was now keeping Aegis cruisers on patrol in the Persian Gulf [Iran’s border] at all times. Those cruisers are equipped with advanced radar and antimissile systems designed to intercept medium-range missiles.” Iran knows full well that “antimissile systems” are perfectly capable of going on the offensive — their real purpose.

Iran is completely surrounded by countries occupied by the U.S. military, whether it be the mass occupation in Iraq and Afghanistan, or the U.S. puppet states that house U.S. military bases in Arab nations. Contrary to the statements of President Obama, Iran is already well contained militarily. Iran’s government — however repressive it may be — has every right to defend itself in this context.

It is possible that these aggressive U.S. actions will eventually force Iran’s government to act out militarily, giving the U.S. military the “defensive” excuse it’s been waiting for, so the tempers of the U.S. population can be cooled.

A separate New York Times editorial outlines the basic agreement on Iran shared by the Democrats and the Republicans. It says:

“It is time for President Obama and other leaders to ratchet up the pressure with tougher sanctions.”

And:

“If the [UN] Security Council does not act quickly, then the United States and Europe must apply more pressure on their own [Bush's Iraq war strategy]. The Senate on Thursday approved a bill that would punish companies for exporting gasoline to Iran or helping Iran expand its own petroleum refining capability [another act of war]” (January 29, 2010).

The U.S. anti-war movement must organize and mobilize to confront the plans of the Obama administration. Obama’s policies not only mirror Bush’s, but have the potential to be far more devastating, with the real possibility of creating a wider, regional war. Iran and China are far more militarily capable than puny Afghanistan or Iraq; the consequences of a war with either will cause countless more deaths.

Another U.S. War? Obama Threatens China and Iran

Our President would have to be an utter moron to threaten China in any way shape or form at the moment. A war with China would surely cause the United States economy to totally disintegrate, and at the same time would destabilize the entire World. He can make threats towards Iran all day long, because he knows that Iran isn't going to make a move on it's own (without allies), but China is not Iran, and has many pieces on the chessboard to play with at the moment, and to call out China and Iran at the very same time, is just stupidity on the part of the President.

Now, with that said, World War 3 does not need to happen. It can be avoided, but it would take the will of the American people to help ensure that. We can't let our President and Congress make stupid decisions that will inevitably lead us into a World War 3. We can't, however, let China make any aggressive movements towards Russia either (we need to protect Russia at all costs), or any of it's neighbors. So we are in a bit of a pickle. I have been saying for awhile now that if it happens it would happen this year. And I still believe that. But if we can somehow manage to avoid conflict this year, and if China keeps it's military within it's own borders for the entire year, without attacking a single country, than I believe we can avoid catastrophe, and that we will have dodged World War 3. Next year it shouldn't even be on the menu for any country, with all the Earth changes that will be taking place, so all we have to do I believe is make it through the entire year without conflict, and we will have no problems in that area. If we can't than I fear that World War 3 will be an unavoidable situation.

China’s hawks demand cold war on the US

Michael Sheridan

Times Online

February 8, 2010

MORE than half of Chinese people questioned in a poll believe China and America are heading for a new “cold war.

The finding came after battles over Taiwan, Tibet, trade, climate change, internet freedom and human rights which have poisoned relations in the three months since President Barack Obama made a fruitless visit to Beijing.

According to diplomatic sources, a rancorous postmortem examination is under way inside the US government, led by officials who think the president was badly advised and was made to appear weak.

In China’s eyes, the American response — which includes a pledge by Obama to get tougher on trade — is a reaction against its rising power.

China’s hawks demand cold war on the US - Times Online

My money's on Holland waging an all out war on world domination but halfway through they'll get the munchies and go home.

I just want to say that I have been closely listening to and watching the current tension unfolding with North Korea and South Korea right now and I will say with 100% confidence that we (the World) have never been more close to World War 3 than we currently are at the moment.

All signs are pointing to the fact that at the moment if nothing is done to avert this disaster than I do believe even this year that we could enter into World War 3. The bloodiest, deadliest, most damaging war ever waged on the surface of our planet.

Jeane Dixon said that North Korea would eventually pull us into a battle with China. And Nostradamus and his predictions are literally unfolding before my eyes. Many Arab nations are to side with the Red Chinese as well as certain factions of the African nations. We are literally on the brink of this catastrophe. And it is one catastrophe that need not take place, for Humanity has within it the power to prevent it from happening.

N. Korea to scrap anti-clash pact with South



North Korea announced Thursday that it will scrap an accord aimed at preventing accidental naval clashes with South Korea in retaliation for Seoul blaming Pyongyang for a torpedo attack that sank a South Korean warship.

Tension on the divided peninsula has risen dramatically since a team of international investigators said last week that a torpedo fired by a North Korean submarine tore apart and sank a South Korean warship on March 26, killing 46 sailors. North Korea has denied its involvement in the sinking and warned any retaliation would mean war.

On Thursday, North Korea's military said it will "completely nullify" an inter-Korean accord aimed at preventing accidental armed skirmishes along the disputed western sea border — the scene of three bloody maritime battles between the two Koreas.

N. Korea to scrap anti-clash pact with South - North Korea- msnbc.com

There are some major events that Jeane Dixon listed as happening right before World War 3 Begins and some that will take place as the War continues.

1. The first one that she listed is that North Korea will provoke the United States into a war with Red China.

2. The second is that Red China will invade Russian territory.

3. The third is that after those two events have taken place, that eventually Red China will invade the entire Middle Eastern continent.



4. The fourth is that there will be a massive Earthquake that will strike the city of Jerusalem. An Earthquake so powerful, that it will cause all tensions between the Arabs and the Israelis to finally cease.

All of these things she stated would happen in exactly that order. I can tell you right now that the first thing on that list is extremely close to happening.

mikeinie;1270637 wrote: They do not now, nor have had any interest in anything outside their own boarders; they are rich in natural resources and have no reason what-so-ever to suddenly go to war with Russia.


Some people are trying to talk up a war between Russia and China.

They are doomed to failure.

TruthBringer;1312463 wrote: There are some major events that Jeane Dixon listed as happening right before World War 3 Begins and some that will take place as the War continues.


Who is Jeane Dixon that we should care about what she says?

preearth;1312560 wrote: Who is Jeane Dixon that we should care about what she says?


I like to call her "La Gran Hembra" which in Spanish means, "The Great Female".