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A strange question
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:20 pm
by Rapunzel
Is it possible to see whether an email, sent from a hotmail account, originated in the UK or the USA?
Does the time on the email indicate the time it was sent or the time it arrived?
Could one assume that an email that arrives at, say, 5am, was sent at, say, 12 midnight, from the US? (I'm not interested in differing time zones, I know that would be NY)
Is there any way to TELL?
Thanks.
A strange question
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:33 pm
by minks
Rapunzel;1283508 wrote: Is it possible to see whether an email, sent from a hotmail account, originated in the UK or the USA?
Does the time on the email indicate the time it was sent or the time it arrived?
Could one assume that an email that arrives at, say, 5am, was sent at, say, 12 midnight, from the US? (I'm not interested in differing time zones, I know that would be NY)
Is there any way to TELL?
Thanks.
It is 8 hours difference from UK to us here in the west, add another hour for westcoast (Koan) East Coast is 6 hours difference. I believe you can contact your ISP perhaps.
A strange question
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:34 pm
by Jazzy
Try this link and see if it helps you: How do I find out who owns a Hotmail account?
A strange question
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:35 pm
by Rapunzel
minks;1283519 wrote: It is 8 hours difference from UK to us here in the west, add another hour for westcoast (Koan) East Coast is 6 hours difference. I believe you can contact your ISP perhaps.
Thanks Minks
I only really need the time difference from Fort Lauderdale to the UK. :-6
I did think of the ISP but is it an easy thing to check or not?
Is there any other way to tell?
A strange question
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:36 pm
by minks
Jazzy;1283520 wrote: Try this link and see if it helps you: How do I find out who owns a Hotmail account?
wouldn't this only be as accurate as the data the email owner puts in. I do not have my full name on my email. I suspect you would find location easily.
A strange question
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:38 pm
by Rapunzel
Jazzy;1283520 wrote: Try this link and see if it helps you: How do I find out who owns a Hotmail account?
Thankyou Jazzy, that was exactly what I was looking for.

:-6
A strange question
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:39 pm
by Rapunzel
minks;1283522 wrote: wouldn't this only be as accurate as the data the email owner puts in. I do not have my full name on my email. I suspect you would find location easily.
So you think it IS traceable?
A strange question
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:13 pm
by Mustang
Rapunzel;1283521 wrote:
Does the time on the email indicate the time it was sent or the time it arrived?
I only really need the time difference from Fort Lauderdale to the UK. :-6
The time it was sent.
There is a 5 hour time difference between Fort Lauderdale and the UK. If it's 1pm in Fort Lauderdale, it would be 6pm in the UK.
A strange question
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:30 pm
by spot
In your mail reader (whatever that is), view the full headers of the email you got from the hotmail account.
Hotmail include a line among all that unreadable stuff which looks like:
X-Originating-IP: [aa.bbb.ccc.ddd]
Take whatever it says instead of aa.bbb.ccc.ddd and enter it on IP2Location.com - Lookup IP address to Country, State, City, Netblock, Longitude and Latitude
That will tell you the location of the sender. Unless they've been very careful and used a web proxy to post through.
If you don't know how to view the full headers, tell us what email system you're using and we'll look it up.
A strange question
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:37 am
by Rapunzel
Thankyou but, my error, it's not a hotmail account it's a yahoo account
Sorry!
Can we start again?

A strange question
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:43 am
by Nomad
Rapunzel;1283774 wrote: Thankyou but, my error, it's not a hotmail account it's a yahoo account
Sorry!
Can we start again?
Dont you think youve put these nice people through enough already?
God !
A strange question
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:52 am
by spot
Rapunzel;1283774 wrote: Thankyou but, my error, it's not a hotmail account it's a yahoo account
Sorry!
Can we start again?
Yahoo has the information on a different line, that's all.
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: aa.bbb.ccc.ddd is neither permitted nor denied by domain of [
name@example.tld]) client-ip=aa.bbb.ccc.ddd
ETA: actually, my mistake, that's the Yahoo web email server, not the client. It's a horribly misleading line.
If you paste all the header block into this Email Header Analyser it will give you a very useful analysis and let you look up which ISP hosts the sender quite easily. Try that instead and see how you get on.
A strange question
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:38 am
by Jazzy
Rapunzel;1283774 wrote: Thankyou but, my error, it's not a hotmail account it's a yahoo account
Sorry!
Can we start again?
What exactly is the problem with this message you received?