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Zapata;1307454 wrote: The Walton Tribune

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Happy hour. :-1

Bunch of Ebenezer's.

chonsigirl;1307470 wrote: Bunch of Ebenezer's.


:)

This Ebenezer's?

Ebenezer's Pub - Reviews - BeerAdvocate

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of the happy meal.



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Ah, is some local board somewhere, which is made up of local citizens who are probably parents, bullying that poor multi-billion dollar corporation McDonalds now?

"Happy Meal" is a god damn marketing slogan and thats all it is. McDonalds' concern for children runs about as long as their drive thru.

If Mcdonalds had a conscience about what its customers were consuming instead of what tastes good enough to keep people coming back no local governments would have to dictate proper nutritional guidance to them. They've had plenty of time to fix this themselves and they've chosen not to.

Now the big bad government is victimizing them, is that what we're supposed to get from this?

Big Business is the same everywhere. You make as much money as you can in any way you can from whoever you can exploiting whatever you can get away with, until Public Outrage gets to the level where some of your moneymaking may suffer, then you modify a bit, spin a bit, PR a bit till you're earning the max again.. and so it goes. This is how Private Enterprise works.

Ahso!;1307487 wrote: Ah, is some local board somewhere, which is made up of local citizens who are probably parents, bullying that poor multi-billion dollar corporation McDonalds now?

"Happy Meal" is a god damn marketing slogan and thats all it is. McDonalds' concern for children runs about as long as their drive thru.

If Mcdonalds had a conscience about what its customers were consuming instead of what tastes good enough to keep people coming back no local governments would have to dictate proper nutritional guidance to them. They've had plenty of time to fix this themselves and they've chosen not to.

Now the big bad government is victimizing them, is that what we're supposed to get from this?


Yes, give us a government that will diaper us, suckle us and babysit us, cradle-to-grave. SHEEEE-IT.

hoppy;1307505 wrote: Yes, give us a government that will diaper us, suckle us and babysit us, cradle-to-grave. SHEEEE-IT.:(Government does that when you don't do it for yourself or police yourself. Its better than leaving people to rot on the street. If you don't like the rules go buy the kid a burger and a toy separately. But stop claiming you'er a victim of government and liberals.

anyone can choose where they go, Burger King has peanut butter sandwiches and milk for kids.

Ahso!;1307509 wrote: Government does that when you don't do it for yourself or police yourself. Its better than leaving people to rot on the street. If you don't like the rules go buy the kid a burger and a toy separately. But stop claiming your a victim of government and liberals.


SHEEEE-IT.:p

I wonder if this will follow suit in foreign countries, like Mexico, Canada, Japan, etc.. Look what one toddler found in England:

McDonald's Happy Meal 'came with cigarette' | Metro.co.uk

Zapata;1307524 wrote: I wonder if this will follow suit in foreign countries, like Mexico, Canada, Japan, etc.. Look what one toddler found in England:

McDonald's Happy Meal 'came with cigarette' | Metro.co.uk


Well, that child certainly did not look happy. That's the real outrage!



:D

Zapata;1307471 wrote:

This Ebenezer's?

Ebenezer's Pub - Reviews - BeerAdvocate


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I meant Scrooge's. Those councilman probably want to keep all the toys for themselves.

hoppy;1307505 wrote: Yes, give us a government that will diaper us, suckle us and babysit us, cradle-to-grave. SHEEEE-IT.


Some people need "a government that will diaper us, suckle us and babysit us, cradle-to-grave"

The fact of the matter is that fast food only adds to the disproportionate fat tubs of walking adipose storage centers and is entirely not due to a nationwide neurosis pertaining to a "schizophrenic change" in the weather plummeting to a Worldly average of about "17 degrees Fahrenheit". What's next is schools will do away with gym and parents will not only torture kids via "McDonalds Drivethru's" but by buying them more video games to add to their complete and utter misfortune

Good luck kid

How do I know?,..what's also entails is the added bombardment of more pills being "shoved down the public's throat" because what they hadn't realized is that eating healthy and exercising is the only truly free medicine all the while the very same complain about medical costs. Anyone still eating margarine sincerely needs a dose of reality qid as needed and then "you" won't need to call me in the morning

Zapata;1307524 wrote: I wonder if this will follow suit in foreign countries, like Mexico, Canada, Japan, etc.. Look what one toddler found in England:

McDonald's Happy Meal 'came with cigarette' | Metro.co.uk


darn right she should sue, good for her!

and the idiot who served her should be fired.

Are you seriously suggesting there should be no regulation as to what companies are allowed to put in the food they sell you? Just think of all the business opportunities of you could addictive substances in food products - coca colas DID use to contain Cocaine you know. Some of the preservatives used in processed food have been banned for just that reason others because they have been proven harmful. There;'s a big stooshie between the US and EU over these kinds of issues. We want food labelled us companies don't want to do it because they realise european consumers will actively boycott some products such as GM crops.

What kind of idiot thinks companies should be left to do what they like? I'd trust them about as far as I could throw them.

And allowing any government unlimited power is equally as dangerous.

hoppy;1307781 wrote: And allowing any government unlimited power is equally as dangerous. :(How do you extrapolate anything thats been said here to mean unlimited power to the federal government? The government is not trying to victimize you, thats your imagination and conservative paranoia.

hoppy;1307781 wrote: And allowing any government unlimited power is equally as dangerous.


So it is but not as dangerous as allowing corporations unlimited power. That's feudalism by another name. Next you'll be terrified to argue with your boss in case you lose your medical benefits .

How does regulating food processing so you don't get poisoned equate to unlimited government power?

Ahso!;1307783 wrote: How do you extrapolate anything thats been said here to mean unlimited power to the federal government? The government is not trying to victimize you, thats your imagination and conservative paranoia.


In Santa Clara County, part of that wonderful bastion of liberal nonsense we call California, the Board of Supervisors voted 3-2 to approve a measure forbidding the sale of children’s toys in any kid’s meal exceeding certain nutritional standards.



The government informing people of something is one thing but increasingly forcing government will on people in every facet of life is unacceptable.

hoppy;1307785 wrote: In Santa Clara County, part of that wonderful bastion of liberal nonsense we call California, the Board of Supervisors voted 3-2 to approve a measure forbidding the sale of children’s toys in any kid’s meal exceeding certain nutritional standards.



The government informing people of something is one thing but increasingly forcing government will on people in every facet of life is unacceptable.:mad:More extrapolation. Its just too bad for you guys, isn't it. Everyone is making victims of conservatives everywhere, aren't they.

Ahso!;1307788 wrote: More extrapolation. Its just too bad for you guys, isn't it. Everyone is making victims of conservatives everywhere, aren't they.


Not everyone. Just liberal a$$holes.:yh_rotfl

Boo hoo!

hoppy;1307789 wrote: Not everyone. Just liberal a$$holes.:yh_rotfl


If it wasn't for liberal assholes and liberal principles and the fact you live in a liberal democracy you wouldn't have freedom of speech. If you value freedom thank a liberal.

California County Wants To Take The Toy Out Of Your Happy Meal - The Consumerist

There are some interesting comments following the article.

Zapata;1307816 wrote: California County Wants To Take The Toy Out Of Your Happy Meal - The Consumerist

There are some interesting comments following the article.


Read some of the comments. My own experience with happy meals, based on my own great grandbrats is, few kids eat the whole damn meal anyway. Just more damn government meddling.

gmc;1307814 wrote: If it wasn't for liberal assholes and liberal principles and the fact you live in a liberal democracy you wouldn't have freedom of speech. If you value freedom thank a liberal.


Liberals Hate Freedom, Not War

hoppy;1307818 wrote: Liberals Hate Freedom, Not WarNathan Tabor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Its obviously not worth expecting a conversation which relies on some sort of factual data instead of presenting the brainwashing material one reads willingly. Whats the point here, that Nathan Tabor holds your opinion regarding liberals? Is there anything you can present that has been thought through by you personally? Nathan Tabor isn't a member of this forum.

I hope they don't take the baked potato off the steak dinner.

Ahso!;1307824 wrote: Nathan Tabor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Its obviously not worth expecting a conversation which relies on some sort of factual data instead of presenting the brainwashing material one reads willingly. Whats the point here, that Nathan Tabor holds your opinion regarding liberals? Is there anything you can present that has been thought through by you personally? Nathan Tabor isn't a member of this forum.


Neither would be the writter or source of any "factual Data" I presented, according to you. :yh_rotfl

What happened ahso? Did you get a sour vanilla shake your last trip through the drive through at McDonalds?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

hoppy;1307854 wrote: What happened ahso? Did you get a sour vanilla shake your last trip through the drive through at McDonalds?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl


one vanilla for me please, hold the sour!:yh_rotfl

gmc;1307753 wrote: Are you seriously suggesting there should be no regulation as to what companies are allowed to put in the food they sell you? Just think of all the business opportunities of you could addictive substances in food products - coca colas DID use to contain Cocaine you know. Some of the preservatives used in processed food have been banned for just that reason others because they have been proven harmful. There;'s a big stooshie between the US and EU over these kinds of issues. We want food labelled us companies don't want to do it because they realise european consumers will actively boycott some products such as GM crops.

What kind of idiot thinks companies should be left to do what they like? I'd trust them about as far as I could throw them.


Reminds me of 1920's America when "medicine" men were selling what we now use as antifreeze in automobiles as "medicine".

The fact is that "kickbacks" and corruption will remain with us until the end of time.

hoppy;1307785 wrote: In Santa Clara County, part of that wonderful bastion of liberal nonsense we call California, the Board of Supervisors voted 3-2 to approve a measure forbidding the sale of children’s toys in any kid’s meal exceeding certain nutritional standards.



The government informing people of something is one thing but increasingly forcing government will on people in every facet of life is unacceptable.


It's also unavoidable in the context of time.

K.Snyder;1308567 wrote: Reminds me of 1920's America when "medicine" men were selling what we now use as antifreeze in automobiles as "medicine".

The fact is that "kickbacks" and corruption will remain with us until the end of time.


Doesn't help when some people seem to have been fooled in to believing there should be no legislative means of dealing with companies that would behave irresponsibly if they get away with it.

Nutri-Journal: McDonalds: Attractive or Addictive?

Can't claim to have cross referenced this but there are studies that show some food additives used are addictive.

Mind you i grew up in a country where cheaper meat pies used to contain what would now be called mechanically separated meat. You used to throw away the grey coloured meat and just eat the pastry. I once shared a lunch table with two butchers reminiscing about their days in small butchers shop making these things and what got put in to them. . I almost became vegetarian on the spot.

gmc;1308641 wrote: Doesn't help when some people seem to have been fooled in to believing there should be no legislative means of dealing with companies that would behave irresponsibly if they get away with it.

Nutri-Journal: McDonalds: Attractive or Addictive?

Can't claim to have cross referenced this but there are studies that show some food additives used are addictive.

Mind you i grew up in a country where cheaper meat pies used to contain what would now be called mechanically separated meat. You used to throw away the grey coloured meat and just eat the pastry. I once shared a lunch table with two butchers reminiscing about their days in small butchers shop making these things and what got put in to them. . I almost became vegetarian on the spot.


Back in the '60's I worked in a factory that was across the street from a burger stand. They sold 'em cheap and had a booming business for awhile. Then one day someone looked in the dumpster behind their building. They saw a huge amount of dog food cans. The authorities were alerted, charges made, business closed.:yh_sick

hoppy;1308653 wrote: Back in the '60's I worked in a factory that was across the street from a burger stand. They sold 'em cheap and had a booming business for awhile. Then one day someone looked in the dumpster behind their building. They saw a huge amount of dog food cans. The authorities were alerted, charges made, business closed.:yh_sick




oh my god.:-5:-5

The interesting thing about libertarian thinkers, is the curious lack of children in their model of reality.

Like Ayn Rand ... she had no children, and AFAIK put no children in her stories. It's over simplistic though to expect kids to make rational choices about nutrition verses a new toy, when they will jump in an unknown van for the same reward.

Part of the recent financial meltdown in 2008 was based on the over simplistic idea that adults make rational choices. Libertarians can whine about big goverment and the nanny state all they want, but it's doesn't do much good for them to admit a "flaw in their model of reality" when testifying before congress about the giant cluster f@#$% they managed to orchestrate (*cough Greenspan*).

Surely if adults are predictably NOT rational, we cannot extend the same model to children and expect anything less than a cluster f@#$% of health problems and obesity of likewise proportions.

hoppy;1308653 wrote: Back in the '60's I worked in a factory that was across the street from a burger stand. They sold 'em cheap and had a booming business for awhile. Then one day someone looked in the dumpster behind their building. They saw a huge amount of dog food cans. The authorities were alerted, charges made, business closed.:yh_sick


:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

One of the local chinese takeaways here has been shut down after the bodies of several dogs and cats were found in the freezers. At least the dog food wasn't road kill - or the family pet.

yaaarrrgg;1308671 wrote: The interesting thing about libertarian thinkers, is the curious lack of children in their model of reality.

Like Ayn Rand ... she had no children, and AFAIK put no children in her stories. It's over simplistic though to expect kids to make rational choices about nutrition verses a new toy, when they will jump in an unknown van for the same reward.

Part of the recent financial meltdown in 2008 was based on the over simplistic idea that adults make rational choices. Libertarians can whine about big goverment and the nanny state all they want, but it's doesn't do much good for them to admit a "flaw in their model of reality" when testifying before congress about the giant cluster f@#$% they managed to orchestrate (*cough Greenspan*).

Surely if adults are predictably NOT rational, we cannot extend the same model to children and expect anything less than a cluster f@#$% of health problems and obesity of likewise proportions.


Ah, yes. If you want to get an unpopular idea made into law, weave children into the whole mix. "Our children need government protection from a toy, from their favorite food, from their bikes and trikes, from playground swings, from soda pop, from BLAH, BLAH, BLAH". I'm glad I'm an old fart. I couldn't take being a kid these days.

hoppy;1308678 wrote: Ah, yes. If you want to get an unpopular idea made into law, weave children into the whole mix. "Our children need government protection from a toy, from their favorite food, from their bikes and trikes, from playground swings, from soda pop, from BLAH, BLAH, BLAH". I'm glad I'm an old fart. I couldn't take being a kid these days.


You wouldn't live as long, if you were a kid these days. They are the first generation that's not expected to live as long as their parents. That's what corporatism gets you...

yaaarrrgg;1308691 wrote: You wouldn't live as long, if you were a kid these days. They are the first generation that's not expected to live as long as their parents. That's what corporatism gets you...


And you know for a fact this is true? Well, I have a solution. Bring back the draft. Any brat drops outa high school, goes to boot camp. Anybody graduates high school goes to boot camp. After their hitch in the military, they can persue a college education. Maybe some of the nonsense will be run outa them by then and they will concentrate on studies.

hoppy;1308722 wrote:

And you know for a fact this is true? Well, I have a solution. Bring back the draft. Any brat drops outa high school, goes to boot camp. Anybody graduates high school goes to boot camp. After their hitch in the military, they can persue a college education. Maybe some of the nonsense will be run outa them by then and they will concentrate on studies.


So your Government shouldn't provide health care for American children or legislate for their welfare or education, but should legislate to draft them all into the military - for their health and welfare and education.

AussiePam;1308725 wrote: So your Government shouldn't provide health care for American children or legislate for their welfare or education, but should legislate to draft them all into the military - for their health and welfare and education.


Sounds good to me.

hoppy;1308726 wrote: Sounds good to me.


Worked for hitler. Serve the state don't ask questions or think you have any rights. Mind you he had welfare programmes and job creation schemes so I suppose you would take the socialist out of the national socialist.:-3

You shouldn't educate the peasants because they start thinking they are as good as everyone else and start questioning the order of things. Religion's good as well, teach them their place in the world is pre-ordained by god and to question it means you go to hell. Praise the lord and keep the powder dry.

People used to do for themselves and look after their own. All I'm saying is we need to get back to that more and rely less on government "help". Now, read into that anything your liberal little mind can dream up.

hoppy;1308801 wrote: People used to do for themselves and look after their own. All I'm saying is we need to get back to that more and rely less on government "help". Now, read into that anything your liberal little mind can dream up.


Societies where that is the prevailing attitude always fail. Look at what is happening in your banking system - people doing for themselves and looking after their own and bugger the consequences for anyone else.

What are you on about anyway, america is hardly world leaders in the welfare state stakes is it?