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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:54 am
by hoppy
Why should Israel be allowed to secure it's borders? The USA won't secure it's borders.
Bloody Israeli raid on flotilla sparks crisis - Israel-Palestinians- msnbc.com
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:12 am
by hoppy
Make martyr's out of the lot of 'em. If the Turks do that to those they are friendly with, then who needs the Turks for friends?:mad:
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:34 am
by Bruv
But what is your opinion of an attack by heavily armed military on civilian ships in international waters ?
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:12 am
by Bryn Mawr
hoppy;1313332 wrote: Why should Israel be allowed to secure it's borders? The USA won't secure it's borders.
Bloody Israeli raid on flotilla sparks crisis - Israel-Palestinians- msnbc.com
Secure its borders?
Attack unarmed ships in international waters carrying food and medical supplies to an autonomous state.
Little more than piracy, certainly state sponsored terrorism, and rightly called foul by the international community.
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:59 pm
by hoppy
Bryn Mawr;1313370 wrote: Secure its borders?
Attack unarmed ships in international waters carrying food and medical supplies to an autonomous state.
Little more than piracy, certainly state sponsored terrorism, and rightly called foul by the international community.
And what was the purpose of all the "activists"? They knew a blockade was on. The Israeli's don't know what all is in those ships.
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:14 pm
by Bryn Mawr
hoppy;1313382 wrote: And what was the purpose of all the "activists"? They knew a blockade was on. The Israeli's don't know what all is in those ships.
If you do not know why the "activists" were desperate enough to try to get supplies into Gaza then you are in no position to comment on what happened.
Given the efficiency of Mosad and the openness with which the flotilla was put together is it not believable that the Israelis did not know what was on board - it is their avowed intent to stop all supplies getting into Gaza, no pretence of restricting the blockade to possible weapons.
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:25 pm
by gmc
US reaction: Cracks appear in America's other special relationship - Americas, World - The Independent
It has probably strengthened Hamas and further weakened the Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian President – and added even more weight to the unprecedented warning of General David Petraeus, the top US military commander for the region, that the failure to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian dispute was damaging America's security interests across the Middle East.
How about "Israel attacks unarmed merchant ships of nato ally in international waters" What if next time the turks decide to send in escorting warships. It's not as there won't be other convoys is it. It would be a fool that believes otherwise. Right now the US needs turkish support more than it does israel's, be interesting to see what happens if they start shooting at each other.
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:50 am
by hoppy
Maybe Turkey shouldn't have let themselves get involved in the first place.
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:05 am
by Bruv
hoppy;1313460 wrote: Maybe Turkey shouldn't have let themselves get involved in the first place.
Maybe America shouldn't have let themselves get involved in the first place
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:12 am
by gmc
hoppy;1313460 wrote: Maybe Turkey shouldn't have let themselves get involved in the first place.
Kind of hard for them not to be if you look at the history of the region. You're not talking about some third world country here you know.
There will be other flotillas, israel will have to back down or start a shooting war. Who knows peaceful protest might achieve what all the terrorists haven't been able to, mind you palestinian terrorism started because peaceful protest wasn't working.