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I thought of this tonight when I popped next door to the Tesco Express just before they closed to get the Lottery results.

By the till was a trolley of marked down Items. I had already done my shopping and had several days meals with extra's at home and looking at the bargains, I knew I did not want them or need them but ended up buying them.

I had no need for cooked sliced chicken but at that price I thought It would do for the stray cat.

I had no need for the fresh cream trifle or Egg Maionaise and other such Items but I bought them and because they are on there sell by date and I have no need for them, I know that they will be In the bin by Monday morning.

If the food stores over-stock and then sell off at cut price... This must tell them there Is demand. If there Is demand, then they order more.

When a British woman has just eaten herself to death, I wonder where the origin of obesity really lies.

As a child I was reminded regually that I was very lucky to have nice food from parents who hated waste so every time I get caught like this, I still feel guilty every time I throw food away.

If you notice all stores have all kinds of crap sold right at the counter or just before you check out, it's done on purpose so people buy them before cashing out or if they are hungry.

It's not to make ones obese by any means as there are no sugar-gums, no-sugar candies....its the thought that makes you buy them as they are there and convenient.

Its up to the person if they give in and choose them.

mostly here are tons of chocolate bars.:-5

I've learned....never go shopping if your hungry!:yh_rotfl

That Is not the point I was making but maybe I did not write the opening post clear enough.

The question I raised was that a shop will only stock what Is demanded. By Over-stocking and then having to sell the excess at the end of the night, they are still creating demand because folk will buy It due to getting It at a fraction of the cost. If this leads to ALL stock being sold, it tells the store to re-order the same quantity next time when there Is clearly not a demand for the quantities they are ordering because they end up with It left over at the end of the night.

The public like myself, will buy It because they have a bargain but end up throwing It away In most cases.

oscar;1325374 wrote: That Is not the point I was making but maybe I did not write the opening post clear enough.

The question I raised was that a shop will only stock what Is demanded. By Over-stocking and then having to sell the excess at the end of the night, they are still creating demand because folk will buy It due to getting It at a fraction of the cost. If this leads to ALL stock being sold, it tells the store to re-order the same quantity next time when there Is clearly not a demand for the quantities they are ordering because they end up with It left over at the end of the night.

The public like myself, will buy It because they have a bargain but end up throwing It away In most cases.


'sometimes' stores do overstock as they have no idea how many will sell.

they do have a system that they use from the previous month's or last week's inventory, this tells them how much was sold and how much to order next time.

We had this for ordering at McDonald's, every store has it now.

but it doesn't always mean that all stock will be sold.

Of course the public buy it when its reduced, the store has to try and sell items before they are expire......either way...they still make a profit.

and it doesn't necessarily mean they will order more next time.

tons of factors, it may rain one day and no one goes out.

customers may have enough for awhile.

some go to different stores every week.

some cannot afford to shop every week or day.

people change their menus.

people get sick of the same things.

may be to hot to go out.........etc.

Well, when one separates "manufacturer" from the stores that ultimately sell the product it's easy to see that there is business and then there are laws that limit the potential for mutation and whatnot. When laws are necessary this means that manufacturers promote obesity yes pure and simple, but they do it unconsciously mainly because their number one priority is money.

A particularly Beautiful woman friend of mine is visiting India at the moment and she's just told me of the McDonalds she'd seen. "They actually sell better quality meet and thicker" was the gist of the convo(She's unsurprised because they do the same in Columbia where she's from) which doesn't surprise me in the least. The conclusion is that practically anyone will sell what one buys. It's evident in the pharmaceutical market by coming to know the drug Gabapentin, from which I'll do my next paper on I think.

Some of the recent corporate collapses show that the relentless pursuit of profit can have disastrous consequences. Although the pharmaceutical industry aims to help patients it may not be immune from questionable corporate practices.

The New York Times has reported an accusation that rules were broken in the promotion of gabapentin.1'Worst Pills, Best Pills', an American drug bulletin, has been keeping its readers and other members of the International Society of Drug Bulletins (including Australian Prescriber) informed of the case.2 Greed and gabapentin - Australian Prescriber


I'd suggest everyone buy a copy of the latest 'Worst Pills, Best Pills', they're particularly unbiased and up to date on all of the garbage people blindly consume. As for the food market I'm afraid this is mostly controlled by peoples intelligence as medicine has been and always will be the number one money making machine.

I watched a programme recently about 'preventable illness' one of which was obesity. Whilst exploring the role of supermarkets, they discovered that the majority of food 'offers' (buy one get one free etc.) did not include healthy options such as fruit, veg, meat etc.....funny that !

oscar;1325374 wrote: That Is not the point I was making but maybe I did not write the opening post clear enough.

The question I raised was that a shop will only stock what Is demanded. By Over-stocking and then having to sell the excess at the end of the night, they are still creating demand because folk will buy It due to getting It at a fraction of the cost. If this leads to ALL stock being sold, it tells the store to re-order the same quantity next time when there Is clearly not a demand for the quantities they are ordering because they end up with It left over at the end of the night.

The public like myself, will buy It because they have a bargain but end up throwing It away In most cases.


Although Tesco's, and other supermarkets, try to stock what they think they will need, they do end up actually wasting quite a lot.

All the waste food goes into large bins behind the store which are locked to stop people stealing the food.

To put their waste into perspective, I live in a small market town with a slightly smaller than average Tesco's. This Tesco's throws away on average £10,000 worth of food every single day!



Now imagine if every Tesco, Saisburys and other supermarkets are doing that too!

They must waste enough food daily, in this country, to fill a football stadium!

And what about the huge London stores? How much food do they dump every single day?

What a waste!

Why on earth can't they give it away to people on low incomes or people living on the streets?

You wanna know why?

Because they're too scared of being sued if someone gets sick!

Understandable but still unbelievable! And they're not bothered with finding an alternate solution. Just wasting the food is their solution! :-5

Rapunzel;1325415 wrote: Although Tesco's, and other supermarkets, try to stock what they think they will need, they do end up actually wasting quite a lot.

All the waste food goes into large bins behind the store which are locked to stop people stealing the food.

To put their waste into perspective, I live in a small market town with a slightly smaller than average Tesco's. This Tesco's throws away on average £10,000 worth of food every single day!



Now imagine if every Tesco, Saisburys and other supermarkets are doing that too!

They must waste enough food daily, in this country, to fill a football stadium!

And what about the huge London stores? How much food do they dump every single day?

What a waste!

Why on earth can't they give it away to people on low incomes or people living on the streets?

You wanna know why?

Because they're too scared of being sued if someone gets sick!

Understandable but still unbelievable! And they're not bothered with finding an alternate solution. Just wasting the food is their solution! :-5


they have to account for loss of product for inventory.

same thing happened at a grocery store/garden center, as I watched employees throw out flowers/plants/shrubs/hanging baskets that wouldn't sell, they counted each one as they dumped them into a garbage bin...what a waste is right!

When I was a manager of McDonald's in the late 80's, if it wasn't sold in 20 minutes, we had to do the same, sheer waste of food, as everything had to be counted as 'loss'.

When I worked the late shift (now they're open 24/7) I would count the waste and send the employees home with whatever they wanted.

The food we waste Is criminal.

Even when I help out our friends In the take-away, you see teenagers coming In for burgers and kebabs. The Burger comes with relish and salad for example.... They ask for a burger , then stand on the pavement out-side the shop, open the bun, scrape off the relish and salad on the pavement for pedestrians to walk In when all they have to say when ordering Is 'Hold the relish and salad'.

My Father used to genuinly cry when he saw starving third world babies on tv and some-thing I can never forget, It just seems that every-where we go, people are stuffing mountains of food.

I had to go to a house very recently because 5 cheques for the take-away had bounced at a total of £105... that was one man's orders for just 7 days !!!

To me, a purchase is a bargain, only it if it used by the consumer and not wasted.

With groceries stores and fast food restaurants available in most every town, we are, to a degree, spoiled. Food is a commodity easily available. So, food is not appreciated; it is expected. And that is why there is so much waste. Food is also sometimes used for comfort, rather than nourishment. Perhaps a cause for some of the obesity problem. JMO

along-for-the-ride;1325523 wrote: To me, a purchase is a bargain, only it if it used by the consumer and not wasted.

With groceries stores and fast food restaurants available in most every town, we are, to a degree, spoiled. Food is a commodity easily available. So, food is not appreciated; it is expected. And that is why there is so much waste. Food is also sometimes used for comfort, rather than nourishment. Perhaps a cause for some of the obesity problem. JMO


The woman as aforementioned in my previous post told me when she walked off of the plane all she could smell was urine...She later told me that the food they'd served her was nothing shy of fantastic. This from simple every day food in India, which I attest is very very good very good(Especially when the spice is enough to grab your tongue yet still leaves room to actually taste the food). I can't help but wonder how spoiled those people are really...

Quite simply food in America is garbage. I have this dream to roam the Earth and mingling with the common folk and trying everything they wish to extend to me with a smile. Liver is by far the best bang for your buck in America! Thank God many people here don't eat it becuase if they did it would be more than the roughly $0.70/lb

I've learned that northern and southern Indian cuisine is different in alot of respets. Sushi is overrated by the way...

But in any case I forget the exact name of the last dish I tried but it was some type of lamb in a brown curry sauce and was incredibly delicious. Something like Rhaja lamb or something perhaps...The nan's leave quite a bit of room for error but their mango peach dessert is incredibly pleasant. McDonalds anyone?

along-for-the-ride;1325523 wrote: To me, a purchase is a bargain, only it if it used by the consumer and not wasted.

With groceries stores and fast food restaurants available in most every town, we are, to a degree, spoiled. Food is a commodity easily available. So, food is not appreciated; it is expected. And that is why there is so much waste. Food is also sometimes used for comfort, rather than nourishment. Perhaps a cause for some of the obesity problem. JMO


That is exactly the kind of answer I was looking for.

Food Is not appreciated and I wondered If the food chains believe that the more they produce, the more we will buy.

Rap was right about the 'Buy one get one free' Offers.

By making us believe that we want It and need It, they are actually Increasing demand along with profits.

I do not buy the McDonalds story.

Fast food chains are all about planning and careful management. I know.... I help run one at the weekends. We do not have food cooked for no reason at all and have It sitting there In warmers ready to be thrown away. Every-thing Is cooked to customer order except the deep fried chicken that has no choice but to be deep fried In batches of 36.... This is because a customer has to wait far longer for It to cook. We close at around Midnight so If we run out of cooked chicken at around 11.30, we do not cook any more simply because In the last half an hour, we may only get one order for It and the rest would end up In my dogs tummy's.

If the management Is careful enough and plans a schedule for the food, It should always be for demand and not just cooking It for 'Incase'.

The quality of the food has diminished due to the demand not vica versa. Because of this the lack of quality leaves businesses unchanged by their lack of respect.

I can bet everything I own on the simple fact that if the food was as good as that I'd described no one would throw food away outside of commercial greed(No one with an ounce of brains that is).

You get what you pay for but if you pay for it you get what is being sold to you. I don't know of anyone that would say they'd not allow someone to buy something off of them for more money then they themselves know the product is worth(Perhaps some but we're talking about a perspective of Worldwide food that slowly murders people-very very slowly doesn't mean it's not true- murder)

"Waist" is not at all peculiar to the western world either. Plenty of people in India throw fruits and whatnot at the monkeys that riddle their streets. I'm quite positive they've alot to add to the faint to moderate urine smell as well

oscar;1325369 wrote: I thought of this tonight when I popped next door to the Tesco Express just before they closed to get the Lottery results.

By the till was a trolley of marked down Items. I had already done my shopping and had several days meals with extra's at home and looking at the bargains, I knew I did not want them or need them but ended up buying them.

I had no need for cooked sliced chicken but at that price I thought It would do for the stray cat.

I had no need for the fresh cream trifle or Egg Maionaise and other such Items but I bought them and because they are on there sell by date and I have no need for them, I know that they will be In the bin by Monday morning.

If the food stores over-stock and then sell off at cut price... This must tell them there Is demand. If there Is demand, then they order more.

When a British woman has just eaten herself to death, I wonder where the origin of obesity really lies.

As a child I was reminded regually that I was very lucky to have nice food from parents who hated waste so every time I get caught like this, I still feel guilty every time I throw food away.


You're the one that chose to buy it even when you knew you didn't need it so why is that the stores fault? Tale responsibility for your own actions. Same with but one get one free - who is forcing people to buy stuff they know they don't need?

With the best will in the world produce managers will get the ordering wrong sometimes. Having worked in a big superstore I can assure you that a produce manager that keeps making expensive mistakes and has excessive waste by constantly overordering doesn't stay a manager for long unless he starts getting it right, it's not a bank people get sacked fpr being incompetent.

K.Snyder;1325550 wrote: Something like Rhaja lamb or something perhaps...


My mistake it was lamb of vindaloo...Was Fantastic!

Supermarkets spend thousands on research to hook in the customer, 'hot spots' are wildly fought over by the big companies within the big stores.

Best way to shop... online, all the offers are still there but you choose not to click on them, they are not right there in front of you at every turn. Write a list and stick to it. I laugh at people blindly grabbing the 2 for £3 or £4 deals, you never see them stop, do the maths and realise that what they've saved themself is around 2p. Too many people take things at face value and assume that what they see is true, after all the sign says so doesn't it!

Manufacturers just want you to buy thir product, they don't care if you're fat or thin, there is also the fact that if there were no demand there'd be no need for them to provide, so the ones to lay blame at is each individual consumer.



Reduced food sold off cheap at the end of the day is another issue. That's not the manufacturers ploy to suck you in, that's the individual stores endeavour to shift the stuff off the shelves. It's up to you if you buy it, there are many people that rely on the reduced items to survive, I know I've spent a few years making a meal around whatever reduced items I could find due to having limited grocery funds.

oscar;1325555 wrote:

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I do not buy the McDonalds story.

Fast food chains are all about planning and careful management. I know.... I help run one at the weekends. We do not have food cooked for no reason at all and have It sitting there In warmers ready to be thrown away.


- You failed to read it was back in the late 80's.

Food was prepared and left on timers for 20 minutes.:rolleyes:

gmc;1325581 wrote: You're the one that chose to buy it even when you knew you didn't need it so why is that the stores fault? Tale responsibility for your own actions. Same with but one get one free - who is forcing people to buy stuff they know they don't need?

With the best will in the world produce managers will get the ordering wrong sometimes. Having worked in a big superstore I can assure you that a produce manager that keeps making expensive mistakes and has excessive waste by constantly overordering doesn't stay a manager for long unless he starts getting it right, it's not a bank people get sacked fpr being incompetent. In your first paragraph, you are missing my point. I am not saying It is the stores fault for one minute and I can assure you that as a size 12 dress size, I do not get tempted very often. The point I was trying to make Is that If by producing more food, do the manufacturers make folk believe that they need more food?

The second paragraph I agree with. Only bad management would lead any store or fast food out-let to chuck away food hourly or daily.

If you do a costing summary, you can predict peaks and troughs In trend. You also take Into account your rush hours, bank holidays etc and cook food accordingly. In my experience, customers would far rather wait 5 minutes for a fresh burger to be flipped or watch their kebab meat being carved than have something that has been stewing In a warmer for an hour. I am the same when I have my monthly treat of fish n chips.. I will not buy It If It has been already cooked and has been drying out In a warmer for hours.

Odie;1325598 wrote: - You failed to read it was back in the late 80's.

Food was prepared and left on timers for 20 minutes.:rolleyes:
I tend to read posts.. I missed nothing.

oscar;1325612 wrote: I tend to read posts.. I missed nothing.


then re-read post #6.

just because 'you' don't believe back in the late 80's at McDonald's, food was prepared ahead of time and was left in the bin on timers of 20 minutes is not my problem.

YOU were talking about today's prepared foods.........I was not.

Odie;1325617 wrote: then re-read post #6.

just because 'you' don't believe back in the late 80's at McDonald's, food was prepared ahead of time and was left in the bin on timers of 20 minutes is not my problem.

YOU were talking about today's prepared foods.........I was not.


Show me any-where I have said ' I do not believe In the late 80's McDonalds, food was prepared ahead of time'? You are not reading posts are you? At no point have I said that I did not believe It. If you read posts, you would see that I have repeatedly said 'It Is down to bad management.' Try reading posts and you may get some-where.

Yes, I am talking about today's prepared foods and not the practice carried out nearly 30 years ago.... That is the whole point of my thread... The Increased mass manufacture of food and not what was done 30 years ago.

Odie;1325598 wrote: - You failed to read it was back in the late 80's.

Food was prepared and left on timers for 20 minutes.:rolleyes:


Hell, it's still done today. Walk into any Sheetz store in the early morning and they have breakfast sandwiches sitting on a rack under warmer lights for easy picking. Burger King does the same thing. Lots of wasted convenient foods headed to the trash after X amount of time elapses. It's more store policy that management has to follow than management itself.

Mustang;1325622 wrote: Hell, it's still done today. Walk into any Sheetz store in the early morning and they have breakfast sandwiches sitting on a rack under warmer lights for easy picking. Burger King does the same thing. Lots of wasted convenient foods headed to the trash after X amount of time elapses. It's more store policy that management has to follow than management itself.


Darn right it is still done today, but knew there was no point in myself evening trying to get into that.

Our convenience stores as well, Seven-11, same as yours sits under warmer lights 24/7 with food sandwiches as this chain of stores never close.

Fortino's, a large chain of grocery stores also have the same thing, prepared ahead of time, sandwiches left out in the open, end up stale.

Burger King in Canada is still the same as well, sits in bins until time elapses.

such a waste!