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There simply isn't. Think about this for a second. Think about all the different role models that men have to look up to in this World simply because they are promoted on a daily basis, as opposed to the amount of Female role models that are promoted on a daily basis, the results are completely lop sided and in favor of men. This is what is wrong with our society today.

Religion promotes more male figures as role models than female. Jesus, Gandhi, etc.

The TV promotes more male role models than female ones as well. I can't think of a single female role model out there today that women have to look up to to learn ethics, morals, strength, charisma, and the right way to live by. Not one.

Look at the way society tries to steer women in. You have shows like Jersey Shore which has become insanely popular and what does it promote for women? It shows them how to use their bodies as a weapon to seduce men and gain power. It shows then how to fight with each other about mundane things and how to try to one up the other girl in favor of winning the man's attention. I mean have you even seen this show? Is it any coincidence that the only people that are part of the "cast" and I say cast because it is clear that they are pawns in a game and they don't even seem to realize it, but the only people in the house who physically fight with each other are the women. And the men remain strangely peaceful with each other.

Every single girl on that show who lives in that house has gotten into a fight with some other girl either be it in the house or out of the house. All women ever have to learn from that show is how to get drunk, how to have sex with every man that walks in order to try and spin the attention in their favor, how to argue and fight over the dumbest things and disregard kindness and good qualities all together. It makes me sick.

Girls gone wild? On the television! Girls dancing and drinking and being sluts and calling it "fun". Fun? Is that really the definition of fun for a girl? To go out and get naked in front of the camera for every guy in the World to see?

All I'm saying is that it's no wonder that nearly every religion purposely keeps female role models out of the picture and it's no wonder why women can't seem to identify with the male figures in religion like Jesus and such (even though with Jesus they should be able to because He balanced masculinity with femininity perfectly).

I really feel sad for females. Vanity is promoted for them on a daily basis. All the magazines make sure to depict them wearing as little as possible and putting their bodies out there for every guy to grovel over. Sex sells is the excuse given, and women fall for it hook line and sinker. No girls, it's not sex sells, it's, guys want to see your naked bodies, and you are eating right out of our hands.

It's horrible. When is American society going to start promoting girls that aren't so free with their bodies, don't feel like they need to dress slutty to get attention from men, don't need to cover their faces with makeup in order to feel like more of a person, and don't need to be the "seductress" at all times.

My opinion is, a women can be just a seductive by being strong in her morals and being independent and happy with herself just as much as she can by wearing a mini skirt and shaking her ass at a club. Of course society wouldn't have you ladies believe that, because society makes sure that you stay on your current course. And I'm not trying to paint all girls with the same brush, I'm only saying that this is what our society promotes. "Sex sells" remember? It doesn't have to!!!!

As a male, I respect women, and I want to see more Female role models being promoted in society. Not only in the political arena. There needs to be more on every level like there is with guys. Not sports stars either. That's a game. I'm talking about the real deal. Independent, strong natured, good hearted, moralistic women who don't feel the need to be popular all the time or to outdo other girls on their facebook pages. I'm talking about role models that women can look up to that will lead them in the right direction. This is what our society needs more than anything for females at this time. How could anyone disagree with that?

I've never seen Jersey Shore. You watch it, do you?

A good book is a great alternative to TV or celebrity role models.

I think you don't understand women at all we don't need the same kind of role models men do. We have our own inner strength, moral compass, and ethic that have raised all the men of the world since the beginning of time. I will agree on the must be beautiful aspect that is promotes daily on TV, Internet etc but for the most part we can see through it.

I disagree. One would have to not read a paper, magazine, book or watch TV to not be aware of Females that could fit the bill as role models. When you say promoting male role models----who promotes and how? Secondly, one persons role model could be another persons joke. What kind of role models are we talking about? Athletes, Intellectuals, Authors, Movie Celebs, Politicians or just your plain old general purpose role model. Give me some examples Truth, of males that are currently considered role models.

CARLA;1352251 wrote: I think you don't understand women at all we don't need the same kind of role models men do. We have our own inner strength, moral compass, and ethic that have raised all the men of the world since the beginning of time. I will agree on the must be beautiful aspect that is promotes daily on TV, Internet etc but for the most part we can see through it.


Ive met some pretty unstable women along the way. Many of them right here.

:yh_rotfl You make a valid point.



Ive met some pretty unstable women along the way. Many of them right here.

We prefer to work underground. Less visibility more chance of overtaking the world.

Lon;1352272 wrote: I disagree. One would have to not read a paper, magazine, book or watch TV to not be aware of Females that could fit the bill as role models. When you say promoting male role models----who promotes and how? Secondly, one persons role model could be another persons joke. What kind of role models are we talking about? Athletes, Intellectuals, Authors, Movie Celebs, Politicians or just your plain old general purpose role model. Give me some examples Truth, of males that are currently considered role models.


Jesus (this one women should be able to identify with as well but many don't), Gandhi, Martin Luther King, JFK, Malcom X, The Pope, and the list goes on and on.

Women on the other hand? Who is being promoted for them on the same level? Answer = no one.

We've come a long way since Mrs. Cleaver let's just put it that way (And I'm not saying that she was a role model for women I'm saying that it's the closest thing I can think of in recent history that has been identified with a moralistic woman on a massive scale because millions of women were watching that at the time that I am sure many women at the time attempted to mimic her because women mimic what they see themselves as through societies reflection on a much bigger scale than men ever do although with Mrs. Cleaver the stuck at home thing is not for everyone so I understand the concern with that part).

What about Jesus's mother Mary? When's the last time you heard a girl say, "I want to do my best to follow in Mary's footsteps." I've never heard a girl say that in my lifetime. In fact, I've never personally heard a girl say they looked up to any other girl because society pits women against each other on every level, and it seems that they are always in competition. Even when they're pretending to be nice to each other. Many women have Snooki fever. And it's not a good thing. And you know it. Yet the majority audience for the show Jersey Shore are women. Why is that? Ask yourselves ladies.....it's because you've been taught to think it's cool to watch shows like that and mimic what you see in them. Men? Most could care less about Jersey Shore other than to take a peep from time to time when one of the girls is wearing tight enough jeans to show her butt and a tight shirt to show her breasts. I'm just being real. Other than that, most men would think that show is retarded. And many girls for some reason love watching it (And I know it's because like I said many girls today have a totally distorted version of what is right and what is wrong).

Teen Mom has become a sensational show throughout America. It has gone from being a lesson for girls not to get pregnant to being a show that people look forward to the next season of. Seriously. Who is promoting this trash? Girls are having younger and younger pregnancies every decade, and the shows on tv keep getting worse and worse. If things don't change, I predict that pornography will be on regular tv within the next 10 years. And it will be this way because women won't stand up for themselves when it comes to the way they are depicted on television. Where are the women's rights groups on these issues? They are strangely silent. Yet when it comes to blaming men for their problems the women's rights groups are all over it. The real Truth is that women aren't giving each other Role Models to look up to. Because they are too busy trying to out do the other girl. As long as you keep that behavior up ladies, you will be lost. And like I said, I'm not painting every girl with this brush, I'm just painting the majority with it. That can change, but only women can change it. If they don't want to, nothing will change. If nothing changes, nothing changes.

Have you not seen Raise The Red Lantern?

The women in that film are all wives of one man. You never see the man's face in the film. Why? He's unimportant in the sequence of what happens and why. He makes the decisions... ahem... sure he does.

koan;1352284 wrote: Have you not seen Raise The Red Lantern?

The women in that film are all wives of one man. You never see the man's face in the film. Why? He's unimportant in the sequence of what happens and why. He makes the decisions... ahem... sure he does.


Right I'm not advocating that man ever make a decision for a woman. What I'm saying is, there is alot of infighting within the female community. And it's on much more of a mental/pschological level than it is on a physical level as can be with men. And the mental/psychological level is far worse for the direction women are heading in as a whole. The problem is little girls really seriously have no figures to model themselves after in the female community. It's just the facts. Sports stars don't count. Like I said. Politicians don't either, because today's politicians are nothing to look up to. So what do you have left ladies? Snooki. That needs to change.

What would your role models be?

btw, I object to your "heading to" comment. It the way it's been since recorded history.

To clarify: I feel much more comfortable in a battle of wits than in a fist fight. I'm kind of waifish.

koan;1352287 wrote: What would your role models be?




For me it's Jesus. If I was girl, I would probably say Mary the Mother of Jesus. But like I said, how many girls are willing to follow in her footsteps and discuss it with each other as opposed to the amount of men who are willing to admit that they want to try and walk in Jesus's footsteps? You would be surprised at the amount of women who would be ashamed to even bring up Mary in a conversation with their friends. To even bring her up would be something many women would never take a chance doing.

But Jesus is promoted probably 1,000 times more than Mary his Mother is anyways for the Male Community. Martin Luther King, same thing. Muhammed Ali, same thing. All the "greats" in the male community are promoted every year in so many different ways. And on the lady side.........nothing. Or relatively nothing.

Right. So we should aspire to be the one who gives birth to the role model. How is that different from what we've discussed re Raise The Red Lantern?

Modern role models? Sure there have been a few women who grew dicks but they ended up looking like... dicks. see Palin and Clinton

Put it this way. My wife watches that show Jersey Shore. I asked her once why she likes it so much. You know what she told me? She said she likes it because of the partying, the drinking, and the drama. That's why she likes it.

Ok, she was being honest. So what does that say about women in society? I guarantee you that 95% of girls who watch it would say the same thing. So partying, drinking, and drama (or fighting and calling each other bitches). Think about that for a second......this is what's wrong with what's being promoted in society for girls.

This is the younger girls saying this, I can't speak for the older ones. But the younger ones are a major factor in society. What needs to change with this picture.....

My Wife told me earlier tonight before she fell asleep that the governor of New Jersey has banned the show Jersey Shore from New Jersey. So the next season is going to take place in Italy. I take back what I said about all politicians. There is one politician who has his **** together and sees the danger that a show like Jersey Shore is reflecting for ALL people of the United States, both women and men.

TruthBringer;1352295 wrote: My Wife told me earlier tonight before she fell asleep that the governor of New Jersey has banned the show Jersey Shore from New Jersey. So the next season is going to take place in Italy. I take back what I said about all politicians. There is one politician who has his **** together and sees the danger that a show like Jersey Shore is causing for ALL people of the United States, both women and men.


Freedom to degrade society? Never. Not in this country. Not under God's watch. Don't argue with that folks. It says right on the back of the dollar bill in God we trust. Do we? Then the governor of New Jersey has demonstrated it. Back him on his decision. Do it for Humanity. For your Brothers, and for your Sisters. Do it for your children, for your family, friends, and neighbors. Do it for society. You are societies only hope. Society is the result of YOUR decisions. Every one of you.

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Beautiful. Did she need to show cleavage to achieve beauty? No. Did she need to wear a mini skirt? No. But Beautiful none the less.

TruthBringer;1352289 wrote: For me it's Jesus. If I was girl, I would probably say Mary the Mother of Jesus. But like I said, how many girls are willing to follow in her footsteps and discuss it with each other as opposed to the amount of men who are willing to admit that they want to try and walk in Jesus's footsteps? You would be surprised at the amount of women who would be ashamed to even bring up Mary in a conversation with their friends. To even bring her up would be something many women would never take a chance doing.

But Jesus is promoted probably 1,000 times more than Mary his Mother is anyways for the Male Community. Martin Luther King, same thing. Muhammed Ali, same thing. All the "greats" in the male community are promoted every year in so many different ways. And on the lady side.........nothing. Or relatively nothing.


What did Mary do?

Accountable;1352298 wrote: What did Mary do?


In todays society Mary would be starring on the reality show 16 and pregnant.

Mary wasn't a willing party to the virgin birth she was a mere vessel used by god to plant his seed.

In today's society she would probably be classed as mentally incompetent (whose the father - you can see the way her answer would go down) and have the baby taken away from her and out up for adoption.

Had jesus been female - the jewish church didn't have priestesses and no one would have wanted to hear anything she had to say. Even in the 21 century ordaining a female priest in the catholic is a grave crime.

If you want female role models how about queen Elizabeth the first, she can claim to have changed world history how many other rulers can claim that? How about buddica? Took on the might of the roman empire, OK she lost but there are plenty of warrior role models around if you look for them the chinese had several of them mulan wasn't just a disney fairy tale.

You think there aren't many female role models but you're just not looking very hard.