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There are two reasons I have posted this story.

1) There Is a hunt for this yob and I hope they find him.

This Is the very reason I would not dream of leaving my cat out In the street even In the evenings. I don't even let my cat out of our garden and due to good fencing, he can't get over It to get Into the road.

As my cat Is pedigree, I also have a device on my gate that lets me know If anyone attempts to open It to get to him.... That's If they get past the dogs first.

I also have cctv camera's on the outside of my home.

A lot of precautions you may think but I would rather that than have my cat fall Into the hands of some arssewipe as In the article.

2) I recently posted a thread about animal abuse and Spot seemed to think that It was obscene that priority seemed to go to animals over humans.

As gmc rightly said In that thread, many animal abusers go on to abuse humans and what are the chances this piece of crap does the same?

My opinion about spot's opinion on animal rights? **** him.

If I ever caught someone doing this, I think I'd probably lose my mind and bash their god damn heads in. They don't deserve to live.

Also today, this couple of scumbags were convicted.

John Nesbitt and Linda Jones caught throwing pet dog into the sea at Exmouth | Mail Online

oscar;1375212 wrote: ... and due to good fencing, he can't get over It to get Into the road ...I'm curious what type of fencing you use...

oscar;1375214 wrote: Also today, this couple of scumbags were convicted.

John Nesbitt and Linda Jones caught throwing pet dog into the sea at Exmouth | Mail OnlinePlopping a dog in the water on "a lovely hot day in April" was about as much as the dog could have hoped for...I doubt being repeatedly hurled into the water as if Ms. Jones suffered from aquaphobia was what the dog expected...

I certainly hope yob is found and put to trial and gets what he deserves. Perhaps that is to be spun around by his behind and I won't say much more; use your imagination.

I do volunteer work for an Animal Advocate organization and have been on a few rescue missions. It turns my stomach and much like snooze I get angry and want to lash out and bring the same pain to the deliverers. My fourth trip out we came upon a scene where a cat had been set on fire....myself and three others tried to extinguish the flames. Her ears were almost burnt off and she suffered third degree burns. She lived but was truly traumatized. The assailants were children! They had to hold me back as I was ready to beat the one who kept laughing about the ordeal....I had to stop going on rescue missions.

I don't understand it. These folks must be missing a gene or have brain damage.

Lady J

K.Snyder;1375222 wrote: I'm curious what type of fencing you use...


Chain link, 5 and a half foot high all round.

Perhaps someone who knows could remind the thread what sentence Mary Bale received, since the mob-baiting expression "put to trial and gets what he deserves" has been brought up.

Mary Bale is mentioned on Wikipedia, in case anyone's unfamiliar with the name. She's on the Internet Vigilantism page, as will this prat be too eventually.

oscar;1375212 wrote: 2) I recently posted a thread about animal abuse and Spot seemed to think that It was obscene that priority seemed to go to animals over humans.You know perfectly well you're twisting matters. I've often pressed for priority to go to animals over humans. That's entirely consistent with wanting every last domesticated animal on the planet neutering before it can breed, I see the two statements as going hand in hand.

SnoozeAgain;1375213 wrote: My opinion about spot's opinion on animal rights? **** him.That's what you get by mixing ignorance and prejudice. We disagree over the value of the life of domestic animals. Setting that aside I imagine our position on animal rights is practically identical.

Extending animal rights to the artificial perverted travesties we've created for our own utility and amusement annoys me intensely, it distracts from the need for far stronger animal rights than currently exist. You'd presumably exclude mosquitoes or urban rats from the set of animals for which you'd want full individual rights recognised providing for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I happen to exclude domesticated animals as well.

There's a further animal right for all species to thrive permanently in a suitable environment, we could both sign up to identical wording on that too. It includes dogs and cats and horses and goats among others. I'd regard it as met once wild dogs and wild cats and wild horses and wild goats and the rest had those species rights recognised.

Do you classify sheep and cows as domesticated animals ?

Bruv;1375232 wrote: Do you classify sheep and cows as domesticated animals ?


Apart from wild sheep and wild cows, yes. The ones I count as domesticated animals are domesticated sheep and domesticated cows.

oscar;1375225 wrote: Chain link, 5 and a half foot high all round.Here I was assuming an 8 foot high fence wasn't enough to keep a cat inside...Is your cat missing two limbs?

SnoozeAgain;1375213 wrote: My opinion about spot's opinion on animal rights? **** him.

If I ever caught someone doing this, I think I'd probably lose my mind and bash their god damn heads in. They don't deserve to live.It's too bad people insist on using emotional torture on themselves and others for the sole purpose of constantly fighting with some and one-upping. That practice of emotional torture makes that individual no different than anyone who would physically torture any other living thing.

I haven't watched the video (or whatever) in the OP and see no reason to permit a person to manipulate my emotions like this. This person has serious issues. Why the ownership of this forum tolerates this is beyond me, but tolerate they do. The OP needs to get a grasp of herself.

If one would put aside this addiction of getting high on torture and read what Spot has posted with new eyes and a clear head, they'd see his position is perfectly reasonable. That doesn't mean anyone need agree with Spot, but, for crying out loud, give this constant attacking a rest. Glad I'm on ignore.

spot;1375227 wrote: You know perfectly well you're twisting matters. I doubt that!

Ahso!;1375246 wrote: It's too bad people insist on using emotional torture on themselves and others for the sole purpose of constantly fighting with some and one-upping. That practice of emotional torture makes that individual no different than anyone who would physically torture any other living thing.

I haven't watched the video (or whatever) in the OP and see no reason to permit a person to manipulate my emotions like this. This person has serious issues. Why the ownership of this forum tolerates this is beyond me, but tolerate they do. The OP needs to get a grasp of herself.

If one would put aside this addiction of getting high on torture and read what Spot has posted with new eyes and a clear head, they'd see his position is perfectly reasonable. That doesn't mean anyone need agree with Spot, but, for crying out loud, give this constant attacking a rest. Glad I'm on ignore.The OP was created by oscar Ahso! and was perfectly reasonable... :yh_bigsmi

Ahso!;1375246 wrote: It's too bad people insist on using emotional torture on themselves and others for the sole purpose of constantly fighting with some and one-upping. That practice of emotional torture makes that individual no different than anyone who would physically torture any other living thing.

I haven't watched the video (or whatever) in the OP and see no reason to permit a person to manipulate my emotions like this. This person has serious issues. Why the ownership of this forum tolerates this is beyond me, but tolerate they do. The OP needs to get a grasp of herself.

If one would put aside this addiction of getting high on torture and read what Spot has posted with new eyes and a clear head, they'd see his position is perfectly reasonable. That doesn't mean anyone need agree with Spot, but, for crying out loud, give this constant attacking a break.


You see what happens when the Spot Wannabe comes off Ignore? :wah: As JJ put It, you're flitting In and out like an elderly homeless bat with nothing to actually say.

Maybe If I write this very slowly, you may finally be able to grasp the concept of a forum.

A forum Is here for all different people from all walks of life with different Interests. Given the amount of members who posted on my thread re: animal abuse, this should give any normal person the Indication that the subject Is of Interest. There-fore, one can safely assume that other members would have an Interest In two stories that are headline news right now In England even making their way onto prime TV news channels.

Now to your whining again that I have manipulated your emotions.... A forum Is based around varied categories and topics. If you don't like the categories nor the subject, then It's very simple, you simply do not open that thread on that topic. What you choose to do Is come Into a thread that you state has no Interest to you, then stamp your childish little feet at the content whilst climbing so far up Spot's rectum, you are In danger of getting stuck In his teeth.

There Is a big difference between you and Spot here. Whilst I disagree with most Spot says and whilst I may even resort to mutual Insults with him, I do actually have a respect for his opinion and knowledge on some subjects. There has even been occassions when Spot and I have had an Intelligent debate... go to thread ' Jockey's whip ban'. There are even odd occassions where I will agree with Spot. You however, offer nothing In the way of debate. This forum Is littered with your whining wanting threads shut down, split or merely coming In to support Spot when he certainly needs no help from you and why you Imagine he does, Is an Issue that you certainly need some professional help with.

The purpose of posting any thread Is to post something that Is believed to be of Interest and engage other members to come here and post.. That Is the thing you are constantly missing on this forum. How many post on you threads? How many quote you? Or shall we go back to the days of moderators posting threads to ask why no-one Is posting and we saw just 4 posts made In two days?

Now to the actual subject of the thread. Given the amount of members who posted on my thread re: animal abuse, you are clearly In the minority. You seem to posses a Hitleresque quality In an attempt to dictate what is posted here.

What this thread has done, Is engage members Into debate, something you are Incapable of. You have nothing to contribute on the subject matter of the thread which Is a subject that happens to be headline news In England. If anyone Is guilty of stirring the pot, It is you with your ridiculous claims that your feelings are hurt b the content.

K.Snyder;1375243 wrote: Here I was assuming an 8 foot high fence wasn't enough to keep a cat inside...Is your cat missing two limbs? As my cat Is a Persian, he can just about manage to climb three feet making the height of the fencing adequate. When I have had other normal cats, rescue street moggies, I have always got them In for the evening.

Why did you take me off ignore? And maybe you can get past the adolescent name calling. You've got serious anger issues, Oscar, and that's apparently due to the emotional torture you visit on yourself. That's unfortunate because it obscures your intelligence, and you are intelligent. You seem to have a need to compare yourself to Spot and perhaps that's due to your lack of self-respect, maybe it's due to something else. Too bad you enjoy doing this to yourself.

spot;1375226 wrote: Perhaps someone who knows could remind the thread what sentence Mary Bale received, since the mob-baiting expression "put to trial and gets what he deserves" has been brought up.

Mary Bale is mentioned on Wikipedia, in case anyone's unfamiliar with the name. She's on the Internet Vigilantism page, as will this prat be too eventually. I don't agree with the ridiculous vigilante lists. I'd much rather the police and courts dealt with them accordingly. A life ban on ever keeping an animal would suit me.

Do you eat meat Spot.?

oscar;1375254 wrote: If anyone Is guilty of stirring the pot, It is you with your ridiculous claims that your feelings are hurt b the content.You may perhaps be mistaken there. I've certainly not watched the footage of the twerp swinging the cat and neither am I likely to.

It was twenty years before I saw the clip of the Challenger explosion as opposed to still photos and to a large extent I wish I'd stuck by my original intention of never seeing it. It was seven years before I watched either of the twin towers collapse. Some of us quite simply don't want imagery like that haunting our minds.

I think my choice not to watch disaster events was formed when I first saw a clip, in my early twenties, of bulldozers filling mass graves after a genocidal calamity. Your cat torturer and the rest is an extension of the same concept.

Ahso!;1375256 wrote: Why did you take me off ignore? And maybe you can get past the adolescent name calling. You've got serious anger issues, Oscar, and that's apparently due to the emotional torture you visit on yourself. That's unfortunate because it obscures your intelligence, and you are intelligent. You seem to have a need to compare yourself to Spot and perhaps that's due to your lack of self-respect, maybe it's due to something else. Too bad you enjoy doing this to yourself.


Ahso, I have nothing In my life that causes me the worry you seem to have. You seem to be suffering from a severe case of Inferiority complex or Is It just plain jealousy that you fail to engage members on your own threads?

When one questions the life of another, one Invariably has no life themself.

Ahso!;1375256 wrote: You've got serious anger issues, OscarI doubt that too. If asked I'd say she's an unbearably embarrassing exhibitionist. Everything relating to her on and off FG that I've heard of points to that conclusion.

spot;1375258 wrote: You may perhaps be mistaken there. I've certainly not watched the footage of the twerp swinging the cat and neither am I likely to.

It was twenty years before I saw the clip of the Challenger explosion as opposed to still photos and to a large extent I wish I'd stuck by my original intention of never seeing it. It was seven years before I watched either of the twin towers collapse. Some of us quite simply don't want imagery like that haunting our minds.

I think my choice not to watch disaster events was formed when I first saw a clip, in my early twenties, of bulldozers filling mass graves after a genocidal calamity. Your cat torturer and the rest is an extension of the same concept.


I have to agree with you there..... There are some clips I myself can not watch and the Challenger exploding Is one of them.

I am all for newspapers making big news from animal abuse If It only makes people aware that they need to be more responsible for their pets. That was one of the points I raised In my OP and hoped to raise the awareness to bring cats In for the evening or they do fall victem to morons as In the link.

spot;1375260 wrote: I doubt that too. If asked I'd say she's an unbearably embarrassing exhibitionist. Everything relating to her on and off FG that I've heard of points to that conclusion.You might be right. Anger may be just a tool.

oscar;1375257 wrote: Do you eat meat Spot.?Yes. I don't ever buy meat. Where a choice is available I take the vegetarian option. Other than that, being a civil unassuming fellow, I eat whatever's put in front of me and compliment the cook within the bounds of truthfulness. What's the purpose of your question?

oscar;1375261 wrote: I have to agree with you there..... There are some clips I myself can not watch and the Challenger exploding Is one of them.

Then why did you write "If anyone Is guilty of stirring the pot, It is you with your ridiculous claims that your feelings are hurt b the content"? Where did you dredge that "ridiculous" up from?

oscar;1375259 wrote: When one questions the life of another, one Invariably has no life themself.I may not stop laughing until nightfall, given that your preceding sentence was "questioning the life of another". Right down to the question mark at the end of it. And your "Invariably" removes your bolt-hole escape route. Talk about shooting your own foot...

Anyone remember the thread about the English person that lost consciousness on the pavement and subsequently died? Young men were pissing on her while she was unconscious and spot thought that was absolutely fine since she wasn't aware of the abuse and ended up dead anyway. Then there are the many threads about Americans, police and military members that he's crapped on. Animal abuse being inconsequential is just a small part of his milieu.

Ignorant I most certainly am, but prejudiced is questionable. "Dislike" would be a more suitable word.

spot;1375263 wrote: Yes. I don't ever buy meat. Where a choice is available I take the vegetarian option. Other than that, being a civil unassuming fellow, I eat whatever's put in front of me and compliment the cook within the bounds of truthfulness. What's the purpose of your question?


Then how can you possibly eat what would be domesticated farm animals whilst claiming that they have no place In society?

Ahso!;1375262 wrote: You might be right. Anger may be just a tool. Here's an idea Ahso.... Now It's a bit wacky and unconventional I know but worth a try.

How about Instead of you trashing a thread merely as an excuse to crawl up Spot's rectum and Insult, you find a story In the national newspapers or Indeed a thought provoking subject and post It as a thread to engage members to debate?

Yes, It's a whacky idea but who knows? It could just work for you.

SnoozeAgain;1375266 wrote:

Ignorant I most certainly am, but prejudiced is questionable. "Dislike" would be a more suitable word. Are you hell. I'd share a crumpet with you any day.

oscar;1375259 wrote: Ahso, I have nothing In my life that causes me the worry you seem to have. You seem to be suffering from a severe case of Inferiority complex or Is It just plain jealousy that you fail to engage members on your own threads?

When one questions the life of another, one Invariably has no life themself.You know, Oscar, you've decided that sensationalism is the key to forum participation, but all sensationalism does is attract more people with sensationalist yearnings and they usually make poor neighbors. I'm not in competition with you to see who can cause more emotional responses from others in order to drive up post counts. I've been there and done that.

I choose FG because there are a few people here whom I respect and wish to converse, or, on occasion, debate with. There are other forums out there that are much more active, but I enjoy the intellectual stimulation and learning I receive from some members here, and I am also encouraged by a few new members who add quality focused content to the site.

Ahso!;1375270 wrote: You know, Oscar, you've decided that sensationalism is the key to forum participation, but all sensationalism does is attract more people with sensationalist yearnings and they usually make poor neighbors. I'm not in competition with you to see who can cause more emotional responses from others in order to drive up post counts. I've been there and done that.

I choose FG because there are a few people here whom I respect and wish to converse, or, on occasion, debate with. There are other forums out there that are much more active, but I enjoy the intellectual stimulation and learning I receive from some members here, and I am also encouraged by a few new members who add quality focused content to the site. You see? Now that's how you can do It when you apply yourself.

oscar;1375268 wrote: Here's an idea Ahso.... Now It's a bit wacky and unconventional I know but worth a try.

How about Instead of you trashing a thread merely as an excuse to crawl up Spot's rectum and Insult, you find a story In the national newspapers or Indeed a thought provoking subject and post It as a thread to engage members to debate?

Yes, It's a whacky idea but who knows? It could just work for you.you're funny, Oscar, in most instances you begin a thread and have one or two other people join in, then you lead the thread by driving up the post count by talking about your cats, or some other side conversation. Often times you try to find a way to draw Spot into your threads via insult or name calling. I don't know how you're not embarrassed when you play your little tricks, and for what? Attention, that's all.

Ahso!;1375276 wrote: you're funny, Oscar, in most instances you begin a thread and have one or two other people join in, then you lead the thread by driving up the post count by talking about your cats, or some other side conversation. Often times you try to find a way to draw Spot into your threads via insult or name calling. I don't know how you're not embarrassed when you play your little tricks, and for what? Attention, that's all. Calm down boy, It's just a thread. You really musn't get so worked up.

Ahso!;1375276 wrote: you're funny, Oscar, in most instances you begin a thread and have one or two other people join in, then you lead the thread by driving up the post count by talking about your cats, or some other side conversation. Often times you try to find a way to draw Spot into your threads via insult or name calling. I don't know how you're not embarrassed when you play your little tricks, and for what? Attention, that's all.


I've only seen her mention her cat once. I'm sorry Ahso, I enjoy your posts, but you're really stretching for this one. Chalk it up that you two don't like each other and leave it alone.

SnoozeAgain;1375279 wrote: I've only seen her mention her cat once. I'm sorry Ahso, I enjoy your posts, but you're really stretching for this one. Chalk it up that you two don't like each other and leave it alone. Perhaps he's suffering from a feline deficiency?

I wouldn't say I don't like Ahso... I can't dislike anyone I have never met In the flesh. I disagree with others on the forum but dislike doesn't come Into It.

SnoozeAgain;1375279 wrote: I've only seen her mention her cat once. I'm sorry Ahso, I enjoy your posts, but you're really stretching for this one. Chalk it up that you two don't like each other and leave it alone.I said: her cats or some other some other side conversation. Obviously you've not read as many of her threads as I have. I don't dislike Oscar, I simply don't care for her constant name calling and insults or attention-getting methods.

oscar;1375280 wrote: Perhaps he's suffering from a feline deficiency?

I wouldn't say I don't like Ahso... I can't dislike anyone I have never met In the flesh. I disagree with others on the forum but dislike doesn't come Into It.


Spot is not a piece of candy that you two can fight over. Besides, he hasn't even blamed the USA for this one yet.:wah:

Spot, the "wah" at the end of this post is a laughing smiley..:sneaky:

Ahso!;1375281 wrote: I said: her cats or some other some other side conversation. Obviously you've not read as many of her threads as I have. I don't dislike Oscar, I simply don't care for her constant name calling and insults or attention-getting methods.


Yep, that does tend to be the general format of a forum.

SnoozeAgain;1375266 wrote: Anyone remember the thread about the English person that lost consciousness on the pavement and subsequently died? Young men were pissing on her while she was unconscious and spot thought that was absolutely fine since she wasn't aware of the abuse and ended up dead anyway. Then there are the many threads about Americans, police and military members that he's crapped on. Animal abuse being inconsequential is just a small part of his milieu.

Ignorant I most certainly am, but prejudiced is questionable. "Dislike" would be a more suitable word.I think I recall this thread, but I don't recall what was posted. Perhaps you can find it?

YZGI;1375282 wrote: Spot is not a piece of candy that you two can fight over. Besides, he hasn't even blamed the USA for this one yet.:wah:

Spot, the "wah" at the end of this post is a laughing smiley..:sneaky: Of course It's America's fault. England never had any animal abuse until we inherited It from you along with trick or treak and Prom night.

Oh well, I really must go and feed my cat now.

Ahso raises hand to attract teachers attention.

" Miss Miss, she talked about her cat again.... Miss Miss, It's not fair, I don't have a cat to talk about.... Miss Miss.

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Ahso!;1375285 wrote: I think I recall this thread, but I don't recall what was posted. Perhaps you can find it?


I wouldn't have a clue where to start. One thing I'll give spot credit for is admitting to his insane posts... maybe he knows where it is.

SnoozeAgain;1375287 wrote: I wouldn't have a clue where to start. One thing I'll give spot credit for is admitting to his insane posts... maybe he knows where it is.Sounds like a thread another sensationalist driven former member would have started (not saying who).

Ahso!;1375290 wrote: Sounds like a thread another sensationalist driven former member would have started (not saying who). You really have to let this hurt and anger go Ahso.

Anyway folks back to topic.... The Police have him !!!!



Police identify suspect who swung cat by the tail in Ramsgate | Mail Online

Now for those that can not grasp the gist here. The clue that our police look for animal abusers should give a wee Indication of how seriously we take animal abuse In England.

God save the Queen.

oscar;1375267 wrote: [quote=spot]Yes. I don't ever buy meat. Where a choice is available I take the vegetarian option. Other than that, being a civil unassuming fellow, I eat whatever's put in front of me and compliment the cook within the bounds of truthfulness. What's the purpose of your question?Then how can you possibly eat what would be domesticated farm animals whilst claiming that they have no place In society?


Why would I not? What reason do you have for asking the question?

Have I increased the number of domestic farm animals by politely accepting what's offered? I think not. If you feel I have then do please explain your reason for thinking it, but I can't see any likely way in which I have.

I'd be delighted if commercial farming were made illegal worldwide. That, I think, is my end-game, that's my solution. Meanwhile, not adding to the number of domestic farm animals brought into the world is my modest contribution while pressing for abolition.

spot;1375292 wrote: Why would I not? What reason do you have for asking the question?

Have I increased the number of domestic farm animals by politely accepting what's offered? I think not. If you feel I have then do please explain your reason for thinking it, but I can't see any likely way in which I have.

I'd be delighted if commercial farming were made illegal worldwide. That, I think, is my end-game, that's my solution. Meanwhile, not adding to the number of domestic farm animals brought into the world is my modest contribution while pressing for abolition.


Eating domesticated farm animals however modest leads to a demand. If you multiply your modest consumption by one million, there you have a demand to produce more.

Producing more thins out the gene pool of the wild species according to you.

oscar;1375294 wrote: Eating domesticated farm animals however modest leads to a demand. If you multiply your modest consumption by one million, there you have a demand to produce more.Your logic is faulty. The number of beasts slaughtered is no different whether I eat the portion prepared or not. Consuming it or throwing it away has already killed the beast. If asked beforehand, or eating out, I express a preference for a vegetarian meal which is nearly always satisfied - I can think of no instance where it's not been. I have not stimulated demand by so much as an ounce of meat for decades.

spot;1375296 wrote: Your logic is faulty. The number of beasts slaughtered is no different whether I eat the portion prepared or not. Consuming it or throwing it away has already killed the beast. If asked beforehand, or eating out, I express a preference for a vegetarian meal which is nearly always satisfied - I can think of no instance where it's not been. I have not stimulated demand by so much as an ounce of meat for decades.


Cobblers old boy.

Consuming or throwing away an already killed beast Is still creating a demand simply because someone somewhere knows that animal has been used, albiet by a variety of reasons. If there Is usage, this tells the farmer and the supermarket that there Is usage and warrants the need to produce more.

If an animal was killed and there was absolutely no usage whatsoever either by meat, by products or throwing It In the bin, why would they produce more?

As I said, take your modest usage and another million of the populations modest usage and you have a demand.

If there Is no demand, there Is no need for the animal you consume modestly to be killed In the first place,

oscar;1375291 wrote: Anyway folks back to topic.... The Police have him !!!!Anyone calling himself randy69er666 is better off out of circulation. What a gimboid.