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Thomas Jefferson

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:29 pm
by Lon
Some quotes from Thomas Jefferson



"It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world."

-- Thomas Jefferson

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." -- Thomas Jefferson

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." -- Thomas Jefferson

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

-- Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."

-- Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.

Thomas Jefferson

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:58 pm
by Bryn Mawr
Lon;1399288 wrote: Some quotes from Thomas Jefferson



"It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world."

-- Thomas Jefferson

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." -- Thomas Jefferson

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." -- Thomas Jefferson

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

-- Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."

-- Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.


And almost all of them as true now as they were then

Thomas Jefferson

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:07 pm
by along-for-the-ride

Thomas Jefferson

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:14 am
by Snooz
I would assume most of those were written when Mad King George was on the throne. That would temper anyone's opinions.

Thomas Jefferson

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:10 am
by spot
Lon;1399288 wrote: Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.


That I doubted the moment I saw the thread. No he didn't, it's been tampered with.

In a private letter of 1816 he said - with no reference at all "to our liberties", thereby changing both the meaning and the implication completely - "I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale". There's a discussion of Jefferson banking invented "quotes", including this one, at snopes.com: Thomas Jefferson on Banks

Jefferson's concern there isn't directly liberty, it's the probity of a balanced budget at all levels of government. Any threat to liberty is at best a remote consequence.

Thomas Jefferson

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:27 pm
by yaaarrrgg
Another quote is:

I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.

Thomas Jefferson

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:42 am
by Bryn Mawr
yaaarrrgg;1399449 wrote: Another quote is:


They failed there then :-(

Thomas Jefferson

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:35 pm
by yaaarrrgg
Bryn Mawr;1399460 wrote: They failed there then :-(


Yeah, we might rename the country to the "United Shareholder Association" at this point.

Thomas Jefferson

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:41 pm
by Bryn Mawr
yaaarrrgg;1399504 wrote: Yeah, we might rename the country to the "United Shareholder Association" at this point.


Ouch