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Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:14 pm
by koan
Rumours say that the miniseries is set for tv debut in November 2012.

eta: I was testing display properties of the video insert.

That being done I'll add a bit more intro. I like Oliver Stone films. I've seen his JFK film and think it is fairly sound in presentation. I haven't seen the rest of his political trilogy, Nixon and W. Wouldn't mind getting a chance to see those before his mini-series comes out.

Apparently he invested a lot of his own money in making the "Untold History" and will likely be subjected to much criticism for it. He'll be called a revisionist by those who he claims to be revisionists. History is a tricky thing.



currently enjoying this interview with Mr. Stone.

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:24 am
by gmc
It's not, just read widely, cross reference and remember the victors get to tell their stories and you only her about the losers through their eyes unless you are prepared to look.

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:05 am
by koan
OLIVER STONE’S UNTOLD HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES to Premiere on SHOWTIME | Haymarket Books

OLIVER STONE’S UNTOLD HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES

To Premiere On SHOWTIME® Monday, November 12th at 8 PM ET/PT

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:45 pm
by matthewdowd
Oliver Stone is CIA.

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:26 pm
by koan
matthewdowd;1404401 wrote: Oliver Stone is CIA.
That's an intriguing idea. Pray tell where you got it from.

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:19 am
by YZGI
matthewdowd;1404401 wrote: Oliver Stone is CIA.


And Steven Spielberg is FBI. Of course everyone knows that George Lucas is head of NASA, that's where he met Luke.

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:26 pm
by AnneBoleyn
matthewdowd;1404401 wrote: Oliver Stone is CIA.
koan;1404412 wrote: That's an intriguing idea. Pray tell where you got it from.


He knows because he's MATTHEW DOWD! The Matthew Dowd. Fame has blessed us!

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:46 pm
by matthewdowd
koan;1404412 wrote: That's an intriguing idea. Pray tell where you got it from.


Oliver Stone Is CIA.

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:27 pm
by koan
Dude, you can't quote yourself as a source. lmao

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:04 am
by koan
Maybe he's CIA because making people question their own government is a secret way of making people think their government is impeccable. Or maybe the CIA has a secret agenda of questioning their government so no one else does it. Or maybe the CIA has a mandate of making themselves exposed for prosecution so the government can say it wasn't them, it was the CIA.

Think about how stupid your suggestion is... Or explain why a CIA agent would tell everyone to stop being dull and wake up to the fact that their government is complicit in so many crimes.

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:04 pm
by matthewdowd
AnneBoleyn;1404450 wrote: He knows because he's MATTHEW DOWD! The Matthew Dowd. Fame has blessed us!


That's all you have to add to this thread? That I use my real name?

We mock that which we fear.

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:10 pm
by LarsMac
So, ah, who's Matthew Dowd?

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:11 pm
by AnneBoleyn
I don't understand or remember this thread, so my apologies, Mr. Dowd. Why did you decide after all this time to respond? but as I said, I don't remember it.

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:17 pm
by AnneBoleyn
"Matthew John Dowd (born May 29, 1961) is an American political consultant who was the chief strategist for the Bush-Cheney '04 presidential campaign. In December 2007, he was introduced on ABC's Good Morning America as its new political contributor. He also appears on the same network's This Week with George Stephanopoulos."

Matthew Dowd - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think, Mr. Other Matthew Dowd, that I was making a play out of you having the same name as the man referred to in Wikipedia. Unless you're actually him, but I don't think so, as I don't think he would have responded the way you did. But now I remember that's why I wrote what I did.

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:00 pm
by matthewdowd
koan;1404477 wrote: Maybe he's CIA because making people question their own government is a secret way of making people think their government is impeccable. Or maybe the CIA has a secret agenda of questioning their government so no one else does it. Or maybe the CIA has a mandate of making themselves exposed for prosecution so the government can say it wasn't them, it was the CIA.

Think about how stupid your suggestion is... Or explain why a CIA agent would tell everyone to stop being dull and wake up to the fact that their government is complicit in so many crimes.
Don't be so hard on yourself! Your suggestions aren't stupid, there just not very well explained.

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:38 pm
by Ahso!
koan;1404461 wrote: Dude, you can't quote yourself as a source. lmaoAh, Koan. LMAO2

In fact, it just might be the MD of the Bush administration.

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:44 pm
by LarsMac
matthewdowd;1441590 wrote: Don't be so hard on yourself! Your suggestions aren't stupid, there just not very well explained.


You do realize that you are replying to a year old post from someone who hasn't been around for a year, don't you?

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:50 am
by AnneBoleyn
LarsMac;1441594 wrote: You do realize that you are replying to a year old post from someone who hasn't been around for a year, don't you?


I miss Koan. I really like her. :-)