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If a car has been declared Sorn since the first of April this year and the road tax has expired, can you drive the car to a pre-booked MOT test without MOT and tax but the car Is Insured?

While usually having no tax would invalidate any insurance, I'm thinking the car could be driven to a pre-arranged MOT. Not entirely sure though

What about getting the MOT garage to trailer or tow it to the MOT centre. That might save any legal wrangle

Snowfire;1410209 wrote: While usually having no tax would invalidate any insurance, I'm thinking the car could be driven to a pre-arranged MOT. Not entirely sure though
Unbelievably, we have spoken to three police officers and none of them are sure.

oscar;1410206 wrote: If a car has been declared Sorn since the first of April this year and the road tax has expired, can you drive the car to a pre-booked MOT test without MOT and tax but the car Is Insured?


Of course you can - you cannot insure or tax the car without an MOT and in order to get an MOT you must drive it to the centre. As long as it is booked in it is legal to drive.

Bryn Mawr;1410215 wrote: Of course you can - you cannot insure or tax the car without an MOT and in order to get an MOT you must drive it to the centre. As long as it is booked in it is legal to drive.


Thank You Bryn....

We understood that of which you have pointed out but someone said that If you have no road tax, your Insurance became Invalid.... then someone else said the same as you but If the car was declared sorn, you couldn't. We had so many conflicting answers we didn't know who to believe.

I'll take your word for It.... Thanks.

oscar;1410218 wrote: Thank You Bryn....

We understood that of which you have pointed out but someone said that If you have no road tax, your Insurance became Invalid.... then someone else said the same as you but If the car was declared sorn, you couldn't. We had so many conflicting answers we didn't know who to believe.

I'll take your word for It.... Thanks.


The people who can confirm it would be the MOT station but that is the way it's worked for the past forty years that I've been riding.

Don't you have a "Temporary Registration" process.

We can get temporary registration that permits the operation of the vehicle for such purposes as operating it until all the proper paperwork has been completed, and inspections are done, or just to relocate the vehicle from place of purchase to place of residence.

LarsMac;1410251 wrote: Don't you have a "Temporary Registration" process.

We can get temporary registration that permits the operation of the vehicle for such purposes as operating it until all the proper paperwork has been completed, and inspections are done, or just to relocate the vehicle from place of purchase to place of residence.


Not over here - the only time you can drive without a current MOT and tax disk is to and from the MOT centre by the most direct route for a pre-booked MOT.

If you buy a car without either then you trailer it home - if you drive it then, by definition, you are uninsured.

You can drive a car to the garage for an arranged MOT test. You can't tax a car without a valid insurance policy you need to either present it at the post office when you tax it or if you do it on-line they actually do a real time check that there is an insurance policy in place. Not having it taxed won't invalidate the insurance not having a current MOT will - although I think they will cover third party. Not having tax or insurance will possibly get you stopped by the police since they all have number plate recognition cameras in place that will flag up your registration

If it was off the road why did you keep up the insurance most people would let it lapse or better to notify the insurance company so they don't lose their no claims discount when they came to insure it again.

Why don't you just ask the insurance company with which it is insured, or you intend to insure it? After all it will be their decision and it's only a phone call to find out the answer to your question. Driving without insurance will not only potentially cost you - or whoever is driving their licence - the police have the the authority to impound the car and crush it.

gmc;1410273 wrote: You can drive a car to the garage for an arranged MOT test. You can't tax a car without a valid insurance policy you need to either present it at the post office when you tax it or if you do it on-line they actually do a real time check that there is an insurance policy in place. Not having it taxed won't invalidate the insurance not having a current MOT will - although I think they will cover third party. Not having tax or insurance will possibly get you stopped by the police since they all have number plate recognition cameras in place that will flag up your registration

If it was off the road why did you keep up the insurance most people would let it lapse or better to notify the insurance company so they don't lose their no claims discount when they came to insure it again.

Why don't you just ask the insurance company with which it is insured, or you intend to insure it? After all it will be their decision and it's only a phone call to find out the answer to your question. Driving without insurance will not only potentially cost you - or whoever is driving their licence - the police have the the authority to impound the car and crush it.


Well Bryn was right... the car was driven today to the MOT centre with Insurance nut no tax or MOT certificate...

We kept up the Insurance because I always believed If you own a car It must be Insured. I declared It sorn when Peter broke his arm and shoulder and couldn't drive It not that I needed to actually because I live In a private road and In my drive It would not need tax.

oscar;1410274 wrote: Well Bryn was right... the car was driven today to the MOT centre with Insurance nut no tax or MOT certificate...

We kept up the Insurance because I always believed If you own a car It must be Insured. I declared It sorn when Peter broke his arm and shoulder and couldn't drive It not that I needed to actually because I live In a private road and In my drive It would not need tax.


It does now - in an attempt to cut down on the number of cars on the road without tax, all cars must either be taxed or declared SORN (that's why it's a Statutory Off Road Notification, because you have to do it).

The insurance companies are also trying to persuade the government that all cars must be insured, even when not in use, but (so far) sanity has prevailed.

A word of warning . My car failed It's MOT on dust covers that were not Included In MOT's before January this year.... just cost me big time.

oscar;1410799 wrote: A word of warning . My car failed It's MOT on dust covers that were not Included In MOT's before January this year.... just cost me big time.


If that's the dust covers over the UJ / CV joints then they always (for years anyway) have been part of the MOT and they're a right pain to replace - it's one job I've been happy to leave to the mechanic.

Bryn Mawr;1410846 wrote: If that's the dust covers over the UJ / CV joints then they always (for years anyway) have been part of the MOT and they're a right pain to replace - it's one job I've been happy to leave to the mechanic.


No not In this case Bryn... we failed on suspension arm ball joint dust cover. Oh and front hub assembly.

oscar;1410854 wrote: No not In this case Bryn... we failed on suspension arm ball joint dust cover. Oh and front hub assembly.


At least those dust covers should be easier to change - I imagine that the front hub will be more painful though.

Bryn Mawr;1410858 wrote: At least those dust covers should be easier to change - I imagine that the front hub will be more painful though.


The front hub I got on e bay myself and the mechanic got the dust covers for me.... he did all the work this morning but It wasn't cheap. Re-test tomorrow,

MOT are you talking about? I'm MOT following you. Maybe it's MOT my business, but I MOT I should ask.

On the bright side, it's totally legal to put working Christmas lights on your car or truck, as long as they don't blink red and blue! ( I do it every year.)

MOT stands for Ministry of Transport and In the UK, you are required by law to present your car for a road worthy examination every year. You can not drive the car legally until the test centre gives you a pass certificate.



Pretty sure In the UK Saint, your car would be Illegal :wah: and you'd have plod on your tail the minute you took off the clutch,