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Winter Tyres v Summer Tyres

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:31 pm
by gmc
Used to be if you asked about winter tyres at tyre fitters they hadn't a clue what you were on about now they are all pushing them. Used to compromise by going for the ones I thought would give best grip in the wet. Need two new tyres will probably do just that.

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The extremes of weather only ever lasts a few days and in deep snow you are stuffed no matter what car or tyres you have. I might treat myself to a set of snow chains just in case.

Winter Tyres v Summer Tyres

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:49 pm
by Bryn Mawr
gmc;1410920 wrote: Used to be if you asked about winter tyres at tyre fitters they hadn't a clue what you were on about now they are all pushing them. Used to compromise by going for the ones I thought would give best grip in the wet. Need two new tyres will probably do just that.

Winter VS Summer Tyres - On a ski slope - YouTube!

Winter Tyres v Summer Tyres: the Truth! - Auto Express - YouTube

The extremes of weather only ever lasts a few days and in deep snow you are stuffed no matter what car or tyres you have. I might treat myself to a set of snow chains just in case.


Are they not illegal in this country?

Winter Tyres v Summer Tyres

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:01 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Bryn Mawr;1410923 wrote: Are they not illegal in this country?


I was told there are new EU regs now on tyres.

Winter Tyres v Summer Tyres

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:37 pm
by gmc
Bryn Mawr;1410923 wrote: Are they not illegal in this country?


They're not illegal but only of any use in deep snow and should not be used on tarmac. I've always managed without such things up until now just making sure I had good tyres on. Used to go winter caravanning and spend a lot of time up in aviemore, hence the interest in winter tyres. maybe if I lived up there I might consider two sets of tyres

Winter Tyres v Summer Tyres

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:48 pm
by Ahso!
The main differences in winter tires and others is in the rubber compounds, though tread design is also important. Here in the US we mostly use "all season" tires which are used all year round. In cold weather rubber tends to harden, but winter tires are made of a compound that causes the rubber to remain pliable in freezing temperatures. The rubber in winter tires does wear more quickly, but it's worth the trade off.

Tires for rain has mostly to do with design.

I used to work for a large tire manufacturer.

Winter Tyres v Summer Tyres

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:37 pm
by gmc
Ahso!;1411039 wrote: The main differences in winter tires and others is in the rubber compounds, though tread design is also important. Here in the US we mostly use "all season" tires which are used all year round. In cold weather rubber tends to harden, but winter tires are made of a compound that causes the rubber to remain pliable in freezing temperatures. The rubber in winter tires does wear more quickly, but it's worth the trade off.

Tires for rain has mostly to do with design.

I used to work for a large tire manufacturer.


My understanding is that above 7 degrees centigrade winter tyres do not have the same grip as "ordinary tyres" certainly the new ratings we have on tyres seem to back that up with most winter tyres getting a poor rating for grip in the wet, too hard a compound perhaps? . We live in a temperate climate we just don't get that much snow throughout the year - the last two or three have been exceptional even than after a week or so it was all gone. You tend to adapt your driving when it's snowing ot icy on the other hand going in to a bend strewn with wet leaves or hitting a deep puddle at too high a speed can happen to the best of drivers. Aquaplaning has to be one of the biggest frights you can get.

Winter Tyres v Summer Tyres

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:59 pm
by Ahso!
If it's just rain, then a tire with an aggressive tread and lots of escape routes for the water is best. Think of it this way: The rubber has to have the ability to reach down through the water and grab the road surface. So when your examining the tread look for those features. Here's an example of a good design for wet weather traction. Notice the aggressive tread design and wide escape routes for water on the sides of the tread.

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Winter Tyres v Summer Tyres

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:48 am
by gmc
Ahso!;1411139 wrote: If it's just rain, then a tire with an aggressive tread and lots of escape routes for the water is best. Think of it this way: The rubber has to have the ability to reach down through the water and grab the road surface. So when your examining the tread look for those features. Here's an example of a good design for wet weather traction. Notice the aggressive tread design and wide escape routes for water on the sides of the tread.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/imag ... 0cPXJ7cWOQ


I appreciate your expertise . That's the kind of thing I look for. I'm sitting listening to the rain bouncing of the roof and there are flood warnings al over the place. The M8 and M9, both of which I use constantly, have sections that have been resurfaced and really good at dispersing the water with reduced spray mixed in with older sections where you get get a lot of surface water you can be happily bowling along at seventy and then hit a large puddle with little or no warning - unless you know the road that is. I think you have to experience aquaplaning to make you truly aware. Most of my acquaintances go for the cheapest they can get I temns to go for the middle ground tyres are from £60 to £150 each for my car.

Winter Tyres v Summer Tyres

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:38 pm
by Snooz
You people spell funny. You put a "Y" in fire? Myre? Wyre? Satyre?

Winter Tyres v Summer Tyres

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:11 pm
by Snowfire
SnoozeAgain;1411210 wrote: You people spell funny. You put a "Y" in fire? Myre? Wyre? Satyre?


That's something Ralph would say. "You smell funny"

You cant put "i"s in places where there should be a "y". You gotta start spellin' proper like wot we do

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