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Has that ever happened before?
"…I hate how I don’t feel real enough unless people are watching." — Chuck Palahniuk, Invisible Monsters
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I glanced at a headline this morning that indicated it has happened once before in 1415.
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A quick blurb ... Papal resignation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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tabby;1419870 wrote: I glanced at a headline this morning that indicated it has happened once before in 1415.
Wow! That's 600 years ago!
Call me cynical and I guess I could be wrong, but I expect there is more to his resignation than meets the eye.
Wow! That's 600 years ago!
Call me cynical and I guess I could be wrong, but I expect there is more to his resignation than meets the eye.
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JJ
I expect it to be his health as a issue..?
But then I've been known to see things others don't..:wah:
Patsy
I expect it to be his health as a issue..?
But then I've been known to see things others don't..:wah:
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Patsy Warnick;1419880 wrote: JJ
I expect it to be his health as a issue..?
But then I've been known to see things others don't..:wah:
Patsy
Yeah well he is 86 so he's no spring chicken as Lola used to say!
I wonder if he goes to a retirement home now and does the Vatican give him a monthly pension and what does he wear and how is he addressed?
I expect it to be his health as a issue..?
But then I've been known to see things others don't..:wah:
Patsy
Yeah well he is 86 so he's no spring chicken as Lola used to say!
I wonder if he goes to a retirement home now and does the Vatican give him a monthly pension and what does he wear and how is he addressed?
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JJ
I assume the Vatican will still house him & provide for him..
This has not happened in 600 yrs. so they'll have to wing it.
Why would he need to step down - others continued on thru their illness.?
You wouldn't be able to attend as many appearances - but others continued.? interesting?
Patsy
I assume the Vatican will still house him & provide for him..
This has not happened in 600 yrs. so they'll have to wing it.
Why would he need to step down - others continued on thru their illness.?
You wouldn't be able to attend as many appearances - but others continued.? interesting?
Patsy
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Patsy Warnick;1419888 wrote: JJ
Why would he need to step down - others continued on thru their illness.?
You wouldn't be able to attend as many appearances - but others continued.? interesting?
Patsy
I saw it speculated that possibly the incentive was to have him bow out before his physical & mental state became such that his followers began to question his judgement. He's at the point now where he's unable to travel any longer.
Why would he need to step down - others continued on thru their illness.?
You wouldn't be able to attend as many appearances - but others continued.? interesting?
Patsy
I saw it speculated that possibly the incentive was to have him bow out before his physical & mental state became such that his followers began to question his judgement. He's at the point now where he's unable to travel any longer.
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I see this as a great opportunity for them to sell off the assets, give the proceeds to charity and close the doors.
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It seems well documented that It's down to health and mostly a failing mind.... probably Alzheimer's
Pope Benedict XVI resigns due to age and declining health | World news | guardian.co.uk
Pope Benedict XVI resigns due to age and declining health | World news | guardian.co.uk
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flopstock;1419897 wrote: I see this as a great opportunity for them to sell off the assets, give the proceeds to charity and close the doors.
Now that would really be great! :wah:
Now that would really be great! :wah:
"…I hate how I don’t feel real enough unless people are watching." — Chuck Palahniuk, Invisible Monsters
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jones jones;1419903 wrote: Now that would really be great! :wah:
Isn't the Pope considered God on earth? Or Gods spokesman? How does a God resign?
Isn't the Pope considered God on earth? Or Gods spokesman? How does a God resign?
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Maybe the Newtown Massacre, broke his heart.... did him in spiritually, and he wants to spend his remaining time
on earth removed from the mayhem that is this world.
on earth removed from the mayhem that is this world.
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oscar;1419901 wrote: It seems well documented that It's down to health and mostly a failing mind.... probably Alzheimer's
Pope Benedict XVI resigns due to age and declining health | World news | guardian.co.uk
What on earth are you doing reading a decent newspaper ? No Daily Mail reading could manifest itself into forming reasonable views :yh_ooooo
Pope Benedict XVI resigns due to age and declining health | World news | guardian.co.uk
What on earth are you doing reading a decent newspaper ? No Daily Mail reading could manifest itself into forming reasonable views :yh_ooooo
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weeder;1419930 wrote: Maybe the Newtown Massacre, broke his heart.... did him in spiritually, and he wants to spend his remaining time
on earth removed from the mayhem that is this world.
If covering up for paedophile priests didn't bother him why relevance has sandy hook? Besides wasn't the shooter a protestant?
on earth removed from the mayhem that is this world.
If covering up for paedophile priests didn't bother him why relevance has sandy hook? Besides wasn't the shooter a protestant?
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YZGI;1419927 wrote: Isn't the Pope considered God on earth? Or Gods spokesman? How does a God resign?
No, YZGI, he's no God.
"A pope is the Bishop of Rome and the spiritual leader of the Roman Catholic Church. He is the head of the independent and sovereign state of Vatican City. The person holding the office of the pope is always male, although there have been rumors to the contrary, a priest who has risen through the ranks to the status of a cardinal, and well-versed in theological doctrine and dogma. Historically, with one or two probable exceptions, the pope has always been white — there were three popes from Africa, but their races are not certain). The faithful believe him to be the successor of an office originated by Saint Peter himself, one of Christ's twelve apostles.
The office of the pope has been in existence for over a thousand years. The power it has wielded has expanded and shrunk as the needs and the beliefs of the people it governs have changed. In its early centuries, popes crowned kings and emperors and were much involved in the politics of the day, even to the extent of validating wars and other forms of social unrest. For awhile, the pope even maintained that his office should be the head of the whole of Western civilization. Throughout the ages, the papacy has been marred with violence, scandal, and even murder."
No, YZGI, he's no God.
"A pope is the Bishop of Rome and the spiritual leader of the Roman Catholic Church. He is the head of the independent and sovereign state of Vatican City. The person holding the office of the pope is always male, although there have been rumors to the contrary, a priest who has risen through the ranks to the status of a cardinal, and well-versed in theological doctrine and dogma. Historically, with one or two probable exceptions, the pope has always been white — there were three popes from Africa, but their races are not certain). The faithful believe him to be the successor of an office originated by Saint Peter himself, one of Christ's twelve apostles.
The office of the pope has been in existence for over a thousand years. The power it has wielded has expanded and shrunk as the needs and the beliefs of the people it governs have changed. In its early centuries, popes crowned kings and emperors and were much involved in the politics of the day, even to the extent of validating wars and other forms of social unrest. For awhile, the pope even maintained that his office should be the head of the whole of Western civilization. Throughout the ages, the papacy has been marred with violence, scandal, and even murder."
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This one won't be remembered as one of the "good" popes.
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Interesting prophesy!
Benedict XVI to Be Second to Last Pope: Irish Prophet Malachy - ABC News
Benedict XVI to Be Second to Last Pope: Irish Prophet Malachy - ABC News
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Nostradamus had something to say about here being a series of popes in quick succession. Can't find the relevant bit just now but this is an enjoyable summary that includes a reference to it.
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gmc;1420017 wrote: Nostradamus had something to say about here being a series of popes in quick succession. Can't find the relevant bit just now but this is an enjoyable summary that includes a reference to it.
Nostradamus, Quatrain 5.31 ~
Par terre Attique chef de la sapience,
Qui de present est la rose du monde:
Pont ruiné & sa grand pre-eminence,
Sera subdÃ*te & naufrage des undes.
Through the land of Attica, leader of wisdom,
Which at present is the rose of the world:
The Pontiff ruined and his great pre-eminence,
To be subjugated and a shipwreck in the waves.
Nostradamus, Quatrain 2.97 ~
Romain Pontife garde de t'approcher,
De la cité que deux fleuves arrouse,
Ton sang viendras aupres de lÃ* cracher,
Toi & les tiens quand fleurira la Rose.
Roman Pontiff beware of your approaching,
Of the city where two rivers water,
Your blood you will come to spit in that place,
Both you and yours when blooms the Rose
Nostradamus, Quatrain 5.31 ~
Par terre Attique chef de la sapience,
Qui de present est la rose du monde:
Pont ruiné & sa grand pre-eminence,
Sera subdÃ*te & naufrage des undes.
Through the land of Attica, leader of wisdom,
Which at present is the rose of the world:
The Pontiff ruined and his great pre-eminence,
To be subjugated and a shipwreck in the waves.
Nostradamus, Quatrain 2.97 ~
Romain Pontife garde de t'approcher,
De la cité que deux fleuves arrouse,
Ton sang viendras aupres de lÃ* cracher,
Toi & les tiens quand fleurira la Rose.
Roman Pontiff beware of your approaching,
Of the city where two rivers water,
Your blood you will come to spit in that place,
Both you and yours when blooms the Rose
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Has anyone else heard that the Vatican was hit by lightning not once but twice after the Pope's announcement to step down.? yikes
I also heard the Pope has had a pacemaker for yrs.- it was a secret.:-2
Patsy
I also heard the Pope has had a pacemaker for yrs.- it was a secret.:-2
Patsy
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gmc;1420017 wrote: Nostradamus had something to say about here being a series of popes in quick succession. Can't find the relevant bit just now but this is an enjoyable summary that includes a reference to it.
Is it possible that they've been electing the Popes using Malachy's prophesy as a guide? Or do you think it's completely random that the choices coincide with events in his vision?:-3
Is it possible that they've been electing the Popes using Malachy's prophesy as a guide? Or do you think it's completely random that the choices coincide with events in his vision?:-3
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Patsy Warnick;1420023 wrote: Has anyone else heard that the Vatican was hit by lightning not once but twice after the Pope's announcement to step down.? yikes
I also heard the Pope has had a pacemaker for yrs.- it was a secret.:-2
Patsy Yes It was... Pic thanks to The Daily Mail
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I also heard the Pope has had a pacemaker for yrs.- it was a secret.:-2
Patsy Yes It was... Pic thanks to The Daily Mail
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tabby;1420024 wrote: Is it possible that they've been electing the Popes using Malachy's prophesy as a guide? Or do you think it's completely random that the choices coincide with events in his vision?:-3
Goodness knows but I doubt it. I'm fairly sure visions, second sight and the like are viewed as witchcraft so I doubt they would be influenced by it, on the other hand they believe saints have visions so who knows. . I'm not a catholic, in fact I'm not religious at all but was brought up a heretical Presbyterian but I think supposedly their choices are guided by god though how that explains the Borgias and the like I haven't a clue. A practising catholic might know the right answer but anything I say is likely to sound anti-catholic, which if I was a protestant you would expect. Wonder why god zapped the vatican or do they accept the scientific explanation and have lightning conductors.
Goodness knows but I doubt it. I'm fairly sure visions, second sight and the like are viewed as witchcraft so I doubt they would be influenced by it, on the other hand they believe saints have visions so who knows. . I'm not a catholic, in fact I'm not religious at all but was brought up a heretical Presbyterian but I think supposedly their choices are guided by god though how that explains the Borgias and the like I haven't a clue. A practising catholic might know the right answer but anything I say is likely to sound anti-catholic, which if I was a protestant you would expect. Wonder why god zapped the vatican or do they accept the scientific explanation and have lightning conductors.
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Cool pic Oscar - thanks
I also heard this was a fake - pic trick - ? like the Eagle & baby was fake.?
Pic trick - I like that.:wah:
It is a cool pic though
Patsy
I also heard this was a fake - pic trick - ? like the Eagle & baby was fake.?
Pic trick - I like that.:wah:
It is a cool pic though
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Would it be a problem if "they" pick a Black Pope?
Would all Hell break loose.?
Just wondering..???
Patsy
Would all Hell break loose.?
Just wondering..???
Patsy
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Patsy Warnick;1420037 wrote: Would it be a problem if "they" pick a Black Pope?
Would all Hell break loose.?
Patsy
Only if it was a "black" pope as in satan-worshipping! ark-ark-ark!
Would all Hell break loose.?
Patsy
Only if it was a "black" pope as in satan-worshipping! ark-ark-ark!
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Patsy Warnick;1420034 wrote: Cool pic Oscar - thanks
I also heard this was a fake - pic trick - ? like the Eagle & baby was fake.?
Pic trick - I like that.:wah:
It is a cool pic though
Patsy It's not a fake pic Patsy....
Here's another source.
Lightning bolt hit Vatican not once but TWICE hours after Pope's shock resignation - Mirror Online
The pic was caught on camera by AFP photographer Filippo Monteforte.
I also heard this was a fake - pic trick - ? like the Eagle & baby was fake.?
Pic trick - I like that.:wah:
It is a cool pic though
Patsy It's not a fake pic Patsy....
Here's another source.
Lightning bolt hit Vatican not once but TWICE hours after Pope's shock resignation - Mirror Online
The pic was caught on camera by AFP photographer Filippo Monteforte.
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Thanks - I'm glad it's not fake - great shot.
Saint
:yh_rotfl
I'm serious - would all hell break - would a black Pope be voted in?
Patsy
Thanks - I'm glad it's not fake - great shot.
Saint
:yh_rotfl
I'm serious - would all hell break - would a black Pope be voted in?
Patsy
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Patsy Warnick;1420041 wrote: Oscar
Thanks - I'm glad it's not fake - great shot.
Saint
:yh_rotfl
I'm serious - would all hell break - would a black Pope be voted in?
Patsy
I'd love to see a black pope elected. I want to see the reaction of these midwest catholics I live around.
Thanks - I'm glad it's not fake - great shot.
Saint
:yh_rotfl
I'm serious - would all hell break - would a black Pope be voted in?
Patsy
I'd love to see a black pope elected. I want to see the reaction of these midwest catholics I live around.
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Some top candidates ...
The 10 Men Who Would Be Pope
The 10 Men Who Would Be Pope
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The Pope's title after he resigns - He will be a "Bishop" .
Patsy
The Pope's title after he resigns - He will be a "Bishop" .
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He wouldn't be a Cardinal??
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I heard his title which is long
but it starts as Bishop --- ---- ------- --------- ---------...
interesting huh?
Patsy
but it starts as Bishop --- ---- ------- --------- ---------...
interesting huh?
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Hm. I vote they call him Pope emeritus. I think it's more fitting.
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Patsy Warnick;1420391 wrote: JJ
The Pope's title after he resigns - He will be a "Bishop" .
Patsy
But not Bishop 22? :yh_rotfl
The Pope's title after he resigns - He will be a "Bishop" .
Patsy
But not Bishop 22? :yh_rotfl
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Holy quit!
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Saint_;1420552 wrote: Holy quit!
What did Robin say to Batman after their visit to Vatican City?
What did Robin say to Batman after their visit to Vatican City?
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AnneBoleyn;1420557 wrote: What did Robin say to Batman after their visit to Vatican City?
I give up, what?
I give up, what?
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Holy Quit Batman!
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Good riddance to him, I say! Ratzinger is
1. Directly responsible for the deaths and suffering of thousands in Africa through his anti-condom stance in a continent blasted with AIDS.
2. Prime protector of pedophiles around the world through his strategy of moving and forgiving the offenders instead of putting on trial.
3. An actual nazi.
1. Directly responsible for the deaths and suffering of thousands in Africa through his anti-condom stance in a continent blasted with AIDS.
2. Prime protector of pedophiles around the world through his strategy of moving and forgiving the offenders instead of putting on trial.
3. An actual nazi.
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I love #3. I don't think a new pope will change the first 2 listed. Do you?
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tabby;1420159 wrote: Some top candidates ...
The 10 Men Who Would Be Pope
I wondered what are the requirements to be elected pope?
"Technically, any Catholic male who has reached the age of reason, is not a heretic, is not in schism, and is not “notorious” for simony can be elected pope — there is no other requirement for election (although there are several requirements before a person can actually assume the papacy once elected). It might even be technically possible for them to elect a non-Catholic male, if they had reason to believe that he would immediately convert to Catholicism."
credit to:
Electing the Next Pope: Who Can Be Elected Pope?
Now I ask what is an "age of reason"? All of the ones listed in buzzfeed reports seem awfully old to me.
Is it that wisdom is to come with age/experience? I don't always find that to be true.
The 10 Men Who Would Be Pope
I wondered what are the requirements to be elected pope?
"Technically, any Catholic male who has reached the age of reason, is not a heretic, is not in schism, and is not “notorious” for simony can be elected pope — there is no other requirement for election (although there are several requirements before a person can actually assume the papacy once elected). It might even be technically possible for them to elect a non-Catholic male, if they had reason to believe that he would immediately convert to Catholicism."
credit to:
Electing the Next Pope: Who Can Be Elected Pope?
Now I ask what is an "age of reason"? All of the ones listed in buzzfeed reports seem awfully old to me.
Is it that wisdom is to come with age/experience? I don't always find that to be true.
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Lady J;1421104 wrote: I wondered what are the requirements to be elected pope?
"Technically, any Catholic male who has reached the age of reason, is not a heretic, is not in schism, and is not �notorious� for simony can be elected pope � there is no other requirement for election (although there are several requirements before a person can actually assume the papacy once elected). It might even be technically possible for them to elect a non-Catholic male, if they had reason to believe that he would immediately convert to Catholicism."
credit to:
Electing the Next Pope: Who Can Be Elected Pope?
Now I ask what is an "age of reason"? All of the ones listed in buzzfeed reports seem awfully old to me.
Is it that wisdom is to come with age/experience? I don't always find that to be true.
I suppose it would be controversial to point out that any catholic male that has reached the age of reason that is unlikely to still be a catholic. You can't be capable of reason and religious one precludes the other.
"Technically, any Catholic male who has reached the age of reason, is not a heretic, is not in schism, and is not �notorious� for simony can be elected pope � there is no other requirement for election (although there are several requirements before a person can actually assume the papacy once elected). It might even be technically possible for them to elect a non-Catholic male, if they had reason to believe that he would immediately convert to Catholicism."
credit to:
Electing the Next Pope: Who Can Be Elected Pope?
Now I ask what is an "age of reason"? All of the ones listed in buzzfeed reports seem awfully old to me.
Is it that wisdom is to come with age/experience? I don't always find that to be true.
I suppose it would be controversial to point out that any catholic male that has reached the age of reason that is unlikely to still be a catholic. You can't be capable of reason and religious one precludes the other.
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The following is from today's news:
"Pope Benedict's resignation linked to gay conclave: report
A 300-page dossier compiled by three cardinals investigating the theft of Vatican documents was reportedly given to the Pope the day he decided to resign. The investigation is said to have uncovered a number of factions within the Vatican of gay men who have engaged in sexual activity with male prostitutes and at organized sex romps."
Read more: Pope Benedict's resignation linked to gay conclave: report - NY Daily News
"Pope Benedict's resignation linked to gay conclave: report
A 300-page dossier compiled by three cardinals investigating the theft of Vatican documents was reportedly given to the Pope the day he decided to resign. The investigation is said to have uncovered a number of factions within the Vatican of gay men who have engaged in sexual activity with male prostitutes and at organized sex romps."
Read more: Pope Benedict's resignation linked to gay conclave: report - NY Daily News
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How to become Pope: