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Gunfire and moments of fear, rural Oregon school

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:29 pm
by tude dog
Sure we all appreciate enthusiasm and initiative.

How could anybody think this was a good idea?

Gunfire and moments of fear as a rural Oregon school tests its readiness



Two masked men wearing hoodies and wielding handguns burst into the Pine Eagle Charter School in this tiny rural community on Friday.


OH NO:confused:

Not HERE!

Students were at home for an in-service day, so the gunmen headed into a meeting room full of teachers and opened fire.


Could have been worse.

Now the punch line, , ,

Someone figured out in a few seconds that the bullets were not drawing blood because they were blanks and the exercise was a drill, designed to test Pine Eagle's preparation for an assault by "active shooters" who were, in reality, members of the school staff. But those few seconds left everybody plenty scared.


I'd be scared too.

Principal Cammie DeCastro said it became clear very quickly just how many of the school's 15 teachers would have survived. The answer: "Not many," she said.




Something is just so wrong here,

They weren't expecting a drill like this, and they were caught by surprise when the two men entered and began firing.

"There was some commotion," DeCastro said.


I hope and pray that most of our nations schools are not run by such fools. This DeCastro guy is a piece of work.

For all my complaint, at least they come to a reasonable conclusion.

Armed teachers is one possible outcome, she said. Or the district may get armed and trained volunteers from the community to watch over the school in shifts, she said. Tougher doors and better locks are other options.

Gover said the teachers tend to favor having one or two armed teachers in the building at all times.


school tests its readiness

Gunfire and moments of fear, rural Oregon school

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 2:03 pm
by Saint_
It's f*****g idiotic. On any level you can name. It breeds fear and paranoia and definitely traumatized people for no good reason.

Now, let's test their nuclear preparedness.... unbelievable.

Gunfire and moments of fear, rural Oregon school

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 2:41 pm
by Snooz
So lets imagine that at least one of the teachers/staff HAD been prepared and shot the **** out of the invaders. What a great training exercise.

Gunfire and moments of fear, rural Oregon school

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 2:41 pm
by tude dog
Saint_;1425889 wrote: It's f*****g idiotic. On any level you can name. It breeds fear and paranoia and definitely traumatized people for no good reason.

Now, let's test their nuclear preparedness.... unbelievable.


LOL



Been there done that.

In today's zero tolerance world, somebody should go to prison.

Gunfire and moments of fear, rural Oregon school

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 2:51 pm
by flopstock
What if one of them had been carrying concealed?

Gunfire and moments of fear, rural Oregon school

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 3:03 pm
by tude dog
flopstock;1425899 wrote: What if one of them had been carrying concealed?


Could have been tragic, on so many levels.

How do some say?

A great teaching moment.

Gunfire and moments of fear, rural Oregon school

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 3:22 pm
by Snooz
Wow, it's like I never even posted.

Gunfire and moments of fear, rural Oregon school

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:37 pm
by tude dog
SnoozeAgain;1425903 wrote: Wow, it's like I never even posted.


So we were doing the Snoozen.

SnoozeAgain;1425903 wrote: So lets imagine that at least one of the teachers/staff HAD been prepared and shot the **** out of the invaders. What a great training exercise.


And would have made national/international news.

Only good news for us who value our freedom.

Gunfire and moments of fear, rural Oregon school

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 6:53 pm
by Saint_
tude dog;1425902 wrote: Could have been tragic, on so many levels.

How do some say?

A great teaching moment.


No, a teachable moment is when 20 young children are slaughtered. The lesson is that America's gun culture is outdated, outrageous, and out of control.

Gunfire and moments of fear, rural Oregon school

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 5:13 am
by tude dog
Saint_;1425911 wrote: No, a teachable moment is when 20 young children are slaughtered. The lesson is that America's gun culture is outdated, outrageous, and out of control.


That is what some people would say. Blame the outdated "gun culture". get it under control. Problem I am having, just what is this "gun culture"?

Gunfire and moments of fear, rural Oregon school

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 8:15 am
by Saint_
Culture: The sum of total of the learned behavior of a group of people that are generally considered to be the tradition of that people and are transmitted from generation to generation.

Examples:

Getting a gun for opening a bank account.

Seeing thousands of gun murders per year on movies and TV.

Losing 30,000 citizens per year to gun violence.

America's gun culture is a learned behavior. It not a normal behavior and it is especially not a desirable or productive behavior. (See: The rest of the civilized world.)

We learned it. We can unlearn it.

(See: Japan and Australia)

Gunfire and moments of fear, rural Oregon school

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 8:16 am
by Saint_
tude dog;1425897 wrote:



Been there done that.




...and you don't do it anymore. My point exactly!

Gunfire and moments of fear, rural Oregon school

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 12:31 pm
by tude dog
Saint_;1425928 wrote: Culture: The sum of total of the learned behavior of a group of people that are generally considered to be the tradition of that people and are transmitted from generation to generation.

Examples:



Getting a gun for opening a bank account.


That is a new one on me. Please share.

Saint_;1425928 wrote: Seeing thousands of gun murders per year on movies and TV.


I dunno. Seems like Hollywood, entertainment business as usual.

Saint_;1425928 wrote: Losing 30,000 citizens per year to gun violence.


Half of which are suicides, not only legal, but no danger to society at large. Many by law enforcement, average citizens in self defense.

All the while you choose to ignore the passive benefit of deterrence which inhibits home invasion.

Saint_;1425928 wrote: America's gun culture is a learned behavior.


Whatever it is, I hope I learned it well.

Saint_;1425928 wrote: It not a normal behavior and it is especially not a desirable or productive behavior. (See: The rest of the civilized world.)


Whatever.

Saint_;1425928 wrote: We learned it. We can unlearn it.

(See: Japan and Australia)


I see nothing in either country, Japan or Australia to envy.

Gunfire and moments of fear, rural Oregon school

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 12:56 pm
by tude dog
Saint_;1425929 wrote: ...and you don't do it anymore. My point exactly!


The real threat was, thankfully removed.