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Homo sapien sapiens originated in Australia, not ‘out-of-Africa’ - DNA evidence | The Stringer

By Steven Strong

Scientific evidence refuting the theory of modern humanity’s African genesis is common knowledge among those familiar with the most recent scientific papers on the human Genome, Mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosomes. Regrettably, within mainstream press and academia circles, there seems to be a conspicuous – and dare we say it – deliberate vacuum when it comes to reporting news of these recent studies and their obvious implications.

This article was inspired by a comment made recently by Australian historian Greg Jefferys. So before continuing a scientific assessment of DNA evidence, I will first open this discussion by outlining Greg Jefferys’ comments.

The whole ‘Out of Africa’ myth has its roots in the mainstream academic campaign in the 1990²s to remove the concept of Race. When I did my degree they all spent a lot of time on the ‘Out of Africa’ thing but it’s been completely disproved by genetics. Mainstream still hold on to it.


I don't care who you are! THAT is very interesting!!!

fuzzywuzzy;1444305 wrote: Homo sapien sapiens originated in Australia, not ‘out-of-Africa’ - DNA evidence | The Stringer



I don't care who you are! THAT is very interesting!!!


What a fascinating article.

Whilst I had always understood the "Out of Africa" theory to relate to earlier species this is the first suggestion I've seen that Homo Sapiens might have originated in Australia.

I'd always though that there were too few data points in the history to give a definite "history" of the human race but I'd not guessed Oz.

It is interesting.

I would really like to see some of the studies he refers to.

Though, reading and following up on some of his references, it seems Mr Strong plays a little fast and loose with the references.

Here is an interesting piece from 2011.

http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110922/ ... 1.551.html

Looking up the Cann and Wilson references, I don't find anything that support his claim of Homo Sapiens being 400,000 years old.

It is possible, I reckon, that Homo Neanderthalus and others managed to get around a lot more than originally though, I dunno.

It is specifically Homo Sapiens Sapiens that is considered "Modern Man" and still, according to most evidence originated in Africa.

What is the interesting part is the idea of Sapiens Sapiens interbreeding with Neanderthals, and Denisovians, along the way.

LarsMac;1444345 wrote: It is interesting.

I would really like to see some of the studies he refers to.

Though, reading and following up on some of his references, it seems Mr Strong plays a little fast and loose with the references.

Here is an interesting piece from 2011.

First Aboriginal genome sequenced : Nature News

Looking up the Cann and Wilson references, I don't find anything that support his claim of Homo Sapiens being 400,000 years old.

It is possible, I reckon, that Homo Neanderthalus and others managed to get around a lot more than originally though, I dunno.

It is specifically Homo Sapiens Sapiens that is considered "Modern Man" and still, according to most evidence originated in Africa.

What is the interesting part is the idea of Sapiens Sapiens interbreeding with Neanderthals, and Denisovians, along the way.


You dunno? and you reckon?........... well that settles it for me !!! lol Must be true lol

All I know in my years of schooling is that we were taught that pure blood aboriginals had a skull three times the thickness of humans from the rest of the world, including Africans . Interesting thought though that humans left here .......they didn't come here. Which turns upside down that peoples travelled through Asia to Australis, remembering where Australis was before the split and after the inland lake disappeared.

I remember listening to a lecture once when I was at Florida State that the Australian might be a pure pre-Sapiens human group. That was back in the 70s. Haven't heard much about it, since then.

The early African origins theory was that focus on Homo Habilis Homo Erectus. That early, pre-Sapiens Hominids first split from other primates in Africa.

The Recent Out of Africa Theory is that Homo Sapiens later also originated as a more recent split from a region in Southern Africa in the last 100,000 years.

Much of this relies on fossilized evidence for Africa. Africa's climate has made Fossilization much more prominent in that region, so it may give us falsified data, just because of that.

Mr Strong's article confuses the various subspecies, though and suggests some unfounded conclusions.

We do have evidence that hominids were quite more wide-spread than many "early human researchers" have believed in the last century.

It is also becoming evident that current "Modern Man" may be a result of inter-breeding among several Sapiens sub-species who had spread about the planet in the last hundred thousand years or so.

Given how the species has changed the planet in the last thousand years, I am not sure the evolution has been for the better.

I was watching a show called Catalyst (I think) and apparently humans are pre programmed to interbreed with those who are NOT similar in terms of our own genes. Apparently we do this on an unconscious level through smell. I'll try to find the program. Men can also tell when a woman is ovulating through this same measure. And it's been found that a woman's facial structure changes constantly throughout her cycle and males find her facial structure during ovulation more pleasant to look upon. Interesting stuff!!!

Found it. Extremely interesting. Maybe what we are seeing in the first article is identical to what we are seeing in this episode of catalyst?

Catalyst - Special Edition - Chemistry of Attraction

What was really interesting was the test of whether men take on women who look like their mothers. A couple of the guys were pretty creeped out . Funny as fck though. Guys like women who look like their mums as they remember them (face recognition stage of infancy/ and toddler)