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How pet food is killing your dog - and why you should be feeding it parsnips and yoghurt | Mail Online

Now I'm going to sound like a know It all but I have been saying this for years.

I did a lot of research many years ago Into pet food when I heard that Ethanol had been used In pet food. I was appalled at what I found.

From personal experience when taking older rescue dogs throughout my life, I noticed that the one's fed on processed food barely lived beyond 8 years old. Dogs that I took younger and who I fed on my diet, lived to 15 years old.

Every day we boil up rice. We boil up a bag of Sainsbury chicken quarters and that will last the 2 dogs about 5 meals each. They also get any left over veg, cheese and even pasta. Boy Dog will celebrate his 16th birthday on 22nd Feb...

Dog owners need to know this...

processed food fed pets stink as well.

Mum feeds her dogs chicken and rice (sometimes in a bit of a soup form, the beagle is not a big drinker, so it gets more fluid in him that way). Sometimes a bit of lamb heart, veggies etc. oh and natural yoghurt (benny the beagle gets a farty bum otherwise :wah: ).

My cats get something similar together with well thought out dry food.

Their fur does not smell (they smell like milk and cookies ), they do not have runny bums or bad breath. According to our vet they are the most healthy cats he has ever seen. And they only live in the house.. Well we do have several cat trees around the house :wah:

Previous pets on processed food used to stink to high heaven.. Yuk.

Omg, ethanol ?

Didn't even see that the first time I read your OP!

oscar;1445977 wrote: How pet food is killing your dog - and why you should be feeding it parsnips and yoghurt | Mail Online

Now I'm going to sound like a know It all but I have been saying this for years.

I did a lot of research many years ago Into pet food when I heard that Ethanol had been used In pet food. I was appalled at what I found.

From personal experience when taking older rescue dogs throughout my life, I noticed that the one's fed on processed food barely lived beyond 8 years old. Dogs that I took younger and who I fed on my diet, lived to 15 years old.

Every day we boil up rice. We boil up a bag of Sainsbury chicken quarters and that will last the 2 dogs about 5 meals each. They also get any left over veg, cheese and even pasta. Boy Dog will celebrate his 16th birthday on 22nd Feb...

Dog owners need to know this...


I would suggest that would be a result of the treatment they received before you took them in rather than the diet they were on.

The last two dogs we've had lived to sixteen and seventeen and were fed processed foods all of their lives - one was a pure border collie and the other a Bichon with a pedigree as long as your arm including at least three Cruft's champions (she was the daftest dog ever and, I admit, loved carrot peelings and pears but her main diet way processed dogfood).

The two cats also lived into the fifteen to twenty year range - again on processed food.

Bryn Mawr;1446269 wrote: I would suggest that would be a result of the treatment they received before you took them in rather than the diet they were on.

The last two dogs we've had lived to sixteen and seventeen and were fed processed foods all of their lives - one was a pure border collie and the other a Bichon with a pedigree as long as your arm including at least three Cruft's champions (she was the daftest dog ever and, I admit, loved carrot peelings and pears but her main diet way processed dogfood).

The two cats also lived into the fifteen to twenty year range - again on processed food.


Of course, there will always be exceptions to the rule Bryn and of course, breed type plays a large part In life spans but I'm afraid this subject is something I am passionate about.



Dogs have been domesticated for about 15,000 years (that's amazing, isn't it?) and up until the 1930s, they were NEVER fed "kibble" or "canned" brands from a store. Dogs were fed real meat and vegetables, and a little homemade bread. On this diet they thrived, frequently living into their late teens.

Kibble

Dogs didn't eat kibble until the 1930s when the grain and meat industries needed a market for their rejects.

That all changed in the 1930s, when cereal and grain manufacturers were looking for something profitable to do with their rejected cereals and grain – their wheat and corn that failed USDA inspection because of mold, rancidity, and other contaminants.

The Best Dog Food For Your Dog: Healthy Feeding For Dogs

Pitstop gets mostly meat, often cooked just for her. I look through the bagain bin at the butcher, for bits of lamb, and such, or buy Chicken and Stew Beef.

She also get left-over steak or Pork Loin, and such.

She turns her nose up at most processed pet food.

LarsMac;1446275 wrote: Pitstop gets mostly meat, often cooked just for her. I look through the bagain bin at the butcher, for bits of lamb, and such, or buy Chicken and Stew Beef.

She also get left-over steak or Pork Loin, and such.

She turns her nose up at most processed pet food. Same here Lars.... certain times of the day the supermarkets reduce their meat section. I'll take whatever's going... lamb, pork, fish, liver, kidneys ... anything..... Mine would also turn their noses up at processed food.

oscar;1446273 wrote: Of course, there will always be exceptions to the rule Bryn and of course, breed type plays a large part In life spans but I'm afraid this subject is something I am passionate about.



Dogs have been domesticated for about 15,000 years (that's amazing, isn't it?) and up until the 1930s, they were NEVER fed "kibble" or "canned" brands from a store. Dogs were fed real meat and vegetables, and a little homemade bread. On this diet they thrived, frequently living into their late teens.

Kibble

Dogs didn't eat kibble until the 1930s when the grain and meat industries needed a market for their rejects.

That all changed in the 1930s, when cereal and grain manufacturers were looking for something profitable to do with their rejected cereals and grain – their wheat and corn that failed USDA inspection because of mold, rancidity, and other contaminants.

The Best Dog Food For Your Dog: Healthy Feeding For Dogs


I specified the breeds because it's an almost invariable rule that mongrels live longer than pedigrees.

If you want to take your longevity comparisons back to the 1930s then one of the major factors must be the increasing tightness of the pedigrees. To get the level of conformance to the ever stricter pedigree requirements has introduced genetic defects onto many of the breeds such as respiratory failure, kidney failure, blindness, etc and these genetic faults are then spread back into the general population.

oscar;1446276 wrote: Same here Lars.... certain times of the day the supermarkets reduce their meat section. I'll take whatever's going... lamb, pork, fish, liver, kidneys ... anything..... Mine would also turn their noses up at processed food.


Pitstop does have a weakness for Pupperoni, though. her day isn't complete until she gets one, and if it is close to bedtime, and she has not had her 'roni, she will give is hell until she gets it.

My mums beagle has (manageable) pancreatitis. As long as he gets his set home cooked food, he's fine.

Many years ago (when she al so still had 3 dogs instead of now 2) she did give them processed food once.. they s.hit and vomited all over the place.

The exorcist was nothing compared...



Same for my cats. I gave it once.. never again.

A very interesting programme tonight on this very subject.

My wife and I were very interested because of the newcomer to our family in a months time.

I have to say that I'm tending to lean toward fresh food rather than proprietary commercial foods. I dislike the fact that it is either extremely cheap "animal derivative" ( well is it animal or not ) or full of, what I would consider unnecessary additives.

I listened intently on the option of raw meat and bones because that would be a natural food for the digestive system of a dog but one big problem with that is salmonella and the prospect of transference to children.

Still a lot of research to do

Snowfire;1446468 wrote: A very interesting programme tonight on this very subject.

My wife and I were very interested because of the newcomer to our family in a months time.

I have to say that I'm tending to lean toward fresh food rather than proprietary commercial foods. I dislike the fact that it is either extremely cheap "animal derivative" ( well is it animal or not ) or full of, what I would consider unnecessary additives.

I listened intently on the option of raw meat and bones because that would be a natural food for the digestive system of a dog but one big problem with that is salmonella and the prospect of transference to children.

Still a lot of research to do


Cooked meat is fine. You don't want to complicate life with raw meat.

Pitstop likes her beef and lamb medium rare, and her chicken and pork medium well.

Yam or sweet potato mashed and mixed in, and some rice or oats, as well.

Snowfire;1446468 wrote: A very interesting programme tonight on this very subject.

My wife and I were very interested because of the newcomer to our family in a months time.

I have to say that I'm tending to lean toward fresh food rather than proprietary commercial foods. I dislike the fact that it is either extremely cheap "animal derivative" ( well is it animal or not ) or full of, what I would consider unnecessary additives.

I listened intently on the option of raw meat and bones because that would be a natural food for the digestive system of a dog but one big problem with that is salmonella and the prospect of transference to children.

Still a lot of research to do


Only beef bones are safe... Poultry and Lamb splinter and can stick In the throat or rip the stomach lining.

Are Bones Safe to Feed Dogs? - PetMeds®

A bone Is not a meal though and really should only be given after a meal. Then you must train him so he doesn't become protective and take a childs hand off should they wander by.

I find variety goes down well with all my dogs... as I said before, the basis Is boiled chicken and rice but they'll have what's going from the meat counter when they reduce the price at the end of day. My dogs love green veg especially a nice curly cabbage and sprouts... good for Iron and vitimins.

oscar;1446482 wrote: Only beef bones are safe... Poultry and Lamb splinter and can stick In the throat or rip the stomach lining.

Are Bones Safe to Feed Dogs? - PetMeds

A bone Is not a meal though and really should only be given after a meal. Then you must train him so he doesn't become protective and take a childs hand off should they wander by.

I find variety goes down well with all my dogs... as I said before, the basis Is boiled chicken and rice but they'll have what's going from the meat counter when they reduce the price at the end of day. My dogs love green veg especially a nice curly cabbage and sprouts... good for Iron and vitimins.


Yeah I know about poultry bones. This isnt our first dog and Sam our Collie cross lived for 20 years. Its just that while we had Sam, the integrity of proprietary dog foods wasn't the issue it is today and having grandchildren, any dogs we have will be impeccably trained and behaved.

Meg the whippet is just a few weeks old and will be staying with mum until the day my wife reaches her redundancy date. Then I'm pushed down the pecking order

Snowfire;1446514 wrote: Yeah I know about poultry bones. This isnt our first dog and Sam our Collie cross lived for 20 years. Its just that while we had Sam, the integrity of proprietary dog foods wasn't the issue it is today and having grandchildren, any dogs we have will be impeccably trained and behaved.

Meg the whippet is just a few weeks old and will be staying with mum until the day my wife reaches her redundancy date. Then I'm pushed down the pecking order Make sure you post some pics of Meg.

For me personally, there's another aspect to feeding your dog meat and veg. For me, I know exactly what they are eating and I never have to wonder what additives, preservatives, colourings, E numbers etc... that gives me a kind of peace of mind. My dogs are part of my family and a very large part of my life.. why would I want to poison them with chemicals ?

You will find with meat and veg, poo Is healthier also.

Propylene Glycol for goodness sake. Its a key component in antifreeze. Its outrageous. They wont be getting my hard earned



Propylene Glycol - Dog Food Aid or Automotive Antifreeze?

Snowfire;1446558 wrote: Propylene Glycol for goodness sake. Its a key component in antifreeze. Its outrageous. They wont be getting my hard earned



Propylene Glycol - Dog Food Aid or Automotive Antifreeze? A very good example of the poison In our pets food. Like me, several years ago, once you start looking Into It, It just becomes more and more horrifying.

On the menu for my dogs tonight:.. Boiled Liver and Kidneys with potato and cabbage.

oscar;1446559 wrote: A very good example of the poison In our pets food. Like me, several years ago, once you start looking Into It, It just becomes more and more horrifying.

On the menu for my dogs tonight:.. Boiled Liver and Kidneys with potato and cabbage.


Wouldn't mind a plate of that meself.....just

...and why is sugar added. There is absolutely no necessity for that in a dogs diet. And apparently grains are difficult for them to process

Snowfire;1446562 wrote: ...and why is sugar added. There is absolutely no necessity for that in a dogs diet. And apparently grains are difficult for them to process


That Is the most difficult for any breed to digest, the grain. You may want to check out allergy's to wheat and grain In dogs also.

Dogs With Food Allergies: Symptoms, Common Triggers, and More

I always remember my Mother telling me about the 4 German Shepherds they had during the war to guard the pub. Like she said, In those days, there was no processed dog food and they got the scraps Including bread soaked In gravy to pad out the meat. They were literally as fit as a butchers dog. People fed their dogs well long before greedy manufacturers tinned the crap and put a label on It.

The adverts that make me laugh are the one's like Ceaser who advertise ' with added carrots and pea's like their doing us a favour. lol

Dogs can eat grains if they are cooked, but Rice and Barley seem preferably. However many grains, like wheat and oats can cause gas and bloating, because the enzymes to break down the grains are not common in a Dog's gut.

I think Pitstop may actually have a gluten problem. She suffers symptoms not unlike my niece, who suffers from Celiac disease, and must maintain a gluten-free diet.

oscar;1446559 wrote: A very good example of the poison In our pets food. Like me, several years ago, once you start looking Into It, It just becomes more and more horrifying.

On the menu for my dogs tonight:.. Boiled Liver and Kidneys with potato and cabbage.


Oi! That's my tea

Bryn Mawr;1446850 wrote: Oi! That's my tea :wah::wah::wah:

Well we had the liver and kidneys fried with some streaky bacon but I always buy extra for the dogs and boil theirs seperatley. One of Mr O's favourite meals that.