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Religion Rules ... Right?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:18 am
by jones jones
I've been holding back on posting this thread, hoping against hope that some member with much more clout than me would perhaps take up the cudgels.

Alas no such luck.

When I in my infinite ignorance & in an attempt to create a positive vibe about FG, posted images on the Front Page, I was told that they would be moved so as to prevent guests/potential members from getting the wrong impression about Forum Garden.

Now Religious thread after Religious thread appears ad nauseum on The Front page.

Certain members have come out in support of these Threads and others keep them relevant by replying and thereby encouraging the OP's.

And yeah yeah I know about this being a Discussion Forum.

But heed my warning or discard it as you wish, but not only will this discourage guests from joining, it will also drive away the already dwindling membership of the faithful ones who have been here from day one.

Religion Rules ... Right?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:22 am
by Mickiel
Why not start a crusade to get rid of what you don't like?

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:25 am
by Mickiel
Atheist rule every section on the board, except one; and wow how that irritates THEM.

They thus NEED that one, and will cry if they don't get it.

And like the parent who is teaching the child not to cry, I am not going to give it to them.

I had decided to give you back your toy, but since you post this thread, I have decided not to give that toy back. The religious section is not your toy to play with;

tell the new members that!

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:43 am
by Mickiel
You can have the Christian section, I hold no interest in them anyway, and I know neither do you.

But you can't have religious discussion, unless you get rid of me.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:44 am
by Oscar Namechange
Ironically Jones, It wasn't that long ago, a member here was whining about the amount of threads you yourself posted.

Yes, It Is true a few more seem to be more prevalent these days, but some are a more trolling Mikiel nature than genuine Interest In discussing religion. My own humble opinion, Is that they will tire very quickly.

We have also had the front page of late taken up with those whining about the front page being taken up by religion. The solution remains the same. If regular members posted more often Instead of relying on others to do It, the religious threads would disappear In order down the page and a more mixed selection of threads would grace the front page.

The religious threads are taking pole position because regular members are sitting back waiting for someone else to post a thread,



Having said that, I do understand your frustration as I know you work very hard to post and find Interesting and varied topics for members here and you are one of the few members to take the trouble.

However, I have absolutely no sympathies for those who leave It to everyone else and then whine the front page Is not to their liking.

It Is not Mikiel or his followers who are to blame for this current situation but the apathy of contributing by other members.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:47 am
by Mickiel
You can make fun of the Christians and toy with their section, but you cannot have religious discussion to toy with at your pleasure.

I know that is what you want back; your toy.

What's it feel like to not get it?

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:59 am
by G#Gill
What on earth are you gabbling on about Mickiel ???? I dont understand you at all !!!

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:03 am
by Mickiel
G#Gill;1446321 wrote: What on earth are you gabbling on about Mickiel ???? I dont understand you at all !!!


I understand you. So that is the difference between us. I know how it is. And that is the difference between knowledge and wisdom. Wisdom is knowing how it is.

I know how it is here at forum Garden; I been here long enough.

A witch hunt is a witch hunt, no matter how you try to dress it.

You just don't understand;

or do you???

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:08 am
by Mickiel
jones jones wrote: ;

But heed my warning or discard it as you wish, but not only will this discourage guests from joining, it will also drive away the already dwindling membership of the faithful ones who have been here from day one.


Allow me to translate this for those who do not understand; its saying this;" I am threatening you, if I don't get my way, then this site will fail. Atheist have ruled here from day one, and must rule every section on the board; we must take back the religious discussion section, or Forum Garden will fall."

This is the message in this translation.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:11 am
by Snowfire
goad [gohd] Show IPA

noun

1.

a stick with a pointed or electrically charged end, for driving cattle, oxen, etc.; prod.

2.

anything that pricks or wounds like such a stick.

3.

something that encourages, urges, or drives; a stimulus.

verb (used with object)

4.

to prick or drive with, or as if with, a goad; prod; incite.


Its extraordinary that so much can be said over so many threads without actually having a point other than to goad. A lot of talk without actually saying much

re·hash [v. ree-hash; n. ree-hash] Show IPA

verb (used with object)

1.

to work up (old material) in a new form.

noun

2.

the act of rehashing.

3.

something rehashed.

Origin:

1815–25; re- + hash


There comes a point when it just becomes a noise.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:12 am
by Mickiel
This is yet the third evolution of the recent rash of witch hunts here; it is so transparent, ;;

and I see through it.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:16 am
by Mickiel
Atheist used to scream about their right to post on religious boards, now they scream about the right to squash religion on their boards.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:19 am
by YZGI
Mickiel;1446327 wrote: Atheist used to scream about their right to post on religious boards, now they scream about the right to squash religion on their boards.


I see only one person with their fingers in their ears chanting la la la la la la la la la la al al ala ala alala al alallalala lalalalalalal

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:58 am
by LarsMac
My Kenyan friend used to say something about "every stick you throw feeds the fire."

I am sure that someone here will get the meaning.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:07 pm
by Mickiel
I will visit your threads.

As I stated before, Atheism is just the flip side of Theism. Atheist are predestined to make the same mistakes that Theist made; Theist used to be the minority; they got persecuted, and these two things created an immense kind of Pride in them; that pride eventually led to their fall, but not before their numbers swelled.

Atheist are going to do the exact same thing. You take pride in being persecuted, in your small growing numbers. That Pride is going to swell, and you will persecute those who persecuted you. You will put out those who put you out. You will lift yourselves up as high as you can, just like Theist did;

and though your fall may not be as great as Theist, you will fall.

Thats why I like the bible, it predicts all this.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:11 pm
by Chloe_88
jones jones;1446314 wrote: I've been holding back on posting this thread, hoping against hope that some member with much more clout than me would perhaps take up the cudgels.

Alas no such luck.

When I in my infinite ignorance & in an attempt to create a positive vibe about FG, posted images on the Front Page, I was told that they would be moved so as to prevent guests/potential members from getting the wrong impression about Forum Garden.

Now Religious thread after Religious thread appears ad nauseum on The Front page.

Certain members have come out in support of these Threads and others keep them relevant by replying and thereby encouraging the OP's.

And yeah yeah I know about this being a Discussion Forum.

But heed my warning or discard it as you wish, but not only will this discourage guests from joining, it will also drive away the already dwindling membership of the faithful ones who have been here from day one.


Nuts.. I just finished a long reply, and then hit the X on my browser... Balls..

It came down to:

I dont think there are more religious threads atm, just a lack of the rest.

I get you're feeling told off for posting too many photo threads, but others posting a lot on "their" subject are not being told off.

Pff in that case JJ, i'm surprised I haven't been told off for posting too much on my current health problems! :wah:

I do my best on thinking of other light conversation like the music thread I started the other day. I think there isn't an overkill on 1 subject as such, it's the lack of people starting a thread. There are many that I see reply to threads but never or almost never start a thread.

I don't read or post in religious threads, I have no interest in them. But they don't bother me.

I'm not bothered by your "photo threads". Most of them I do look at but don't reply to. I must say some of the pictures are great though and I wonder what next fab photo you're going to come up with.

Let all of us not beat up someone's thread. If you don't like it, or dislike the subject, don't read it :)

I hope a positive vibe picks up soon on FG, and we all get back to posting what we like. I have had my account deleted before because of a negative vibe on FG, I don't want to be needing to do that again.

Lets not pick on each other and let the positive threads start again! :guitarist

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:12 pm
by AnneBoleyn
"Rule 1.1 Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest."

So, insulting atheists & accusing people of atheism does not come under this banner? I believe it does. The words of a certain member who hurls this, if he were naming Jews or Muslims as the object of derision would it be different? I think not. A certain member should be discouraged from harassing atheists, should be discouraged from accusing people who do not share his views (or just plain don't like him) of atheism. This certain member harasses, insults, belittles people on this board.

I joined this board because I was totally charmed by JJ's images. I wanted to know this man who thought such beautiful thoughts. I would have never joined in this current climate of evangelism. That's a personal story, I'm not expecting to sway anyone with it.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:19 pm
by jones jones
Chloe_88;1446335 wrote: Nuts.. I just finished a long reply, and then hit the X on my browser... Balls..

It came down to:

I dont think there are more religious threads atm, just a lack of the rest.

I get you're feeling told off for posting too many photo threads, but others posting a lot on "their" subject are not being told off.

Pff in that case JJ, i'm surprised I haven't been told off for posting too much on my current health problems! :wah:

I do my best on thinking of other light conversation like the music thread I started the other day. I think there isn't an overkill on 1 subject as such, it's the lack of people starting a thread. There are many that I see reply to threads but never or almost never start a thread.

I don't read or post in religious threads, I have no interest in them. But they don't bother me.

I'm not bothered by your "photo threads". Most of them I do look at but don't reply to. I must say some of the pictures are great though and I wonder what next fab photo you're going to come up with.

Let all of us not beat up someone's thread. If you don't like it, or dislike the subject, don't read it :)

I hope a positive vibe picks up soon on FG, and we all get back to posting what we like. I have had my account deleted before because of a negative vibe on FG, I don't want to be needing to do that again.

Lets not pick on each other and let the positive threads start again! :guitarist


You are a very wise lady Chloe with far far more patience than I.

I think that my record here speaks for itself ... I have from day one ALWAYS said that "it is the democratic right of EVERY earthling to voice their opinion" ... but for heaven's sake, post you thread and then let it be.

What irks me is when a thread is posted and the OP then replies to their own thread a gazillion times!

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:20 pm
by Mickiel
AnneBoleyn;1446336 wrote: "Rule 1.1 Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest."

So, insulting atheists & accusing people of atheism does not come under this banner? I believe it does. The words of a certain member who hurls this, if he were naming Jews or Muslims as the object of derision would it be different? I think not. A certain member should be discouraged from harassing atheists, should be discouraged from accusing people who do not share his views (or just plain don't like him) of atheism. This certain member harasses, insults, belittles people on this board.

I joined this board because I was totally charmed by JJ's images. I wanted to know this man who thought such beautiful thoughts. I would have never joined in this current climate of evangelism. That's a personal story, I'm not expecting to sway anyone with it.




You got your nerve for sure, you have insulted, belittled and threatened me by the dozens; even started a thread to ban me for no reason other than your serious expressed dislike of me. If you prefer a climate of Atheism as prefered to Theism, that is your right, but as I stated, you and others like you are destined to try and erradicate the climate of Theism.

No Theist here has ever complained of the constant theme of Atheism being on the front page every day, but the flip side of that is we are not allowed to shine on the front page, and must be delegated to the back page.

Whats it feel like to know that I still can see through you?

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:21 pm
by jones jones
AnneBoleyn;1446336 wrote: "Rule 1.1 Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest."

So, insulting atheists & accusing people of atheism does not come under this banner? I believe it does. The words of a certain member who hurls this, if he were naming Jews or Muslims as the object of derision would it be different? I think not. A certain member should be discouraged from harassing atheists, should be discouraged from accusing people who do not share his views (or just plain don't like him) of atheism. This certain member harasses, insults, belittles people on this board.

I joined this board because I was totally charmed by JJ's images. I wanted to know this man who thought such beautiful thoughts. I would have never joined in this current climate of evangelism. That's a personal story, I'm not expecting to sway anyone with it.


Ah Annie ... you make me blush with pleasure! :o :-4:-4

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:21 pm
by Chloe_88
jones jones;1446340 wrote: You are a very wise lady Chloe with far far more patience than I.


Cool, thanks JJ. Most people think i'm a mad bat!

jones jones;1446340 wrote: I think that my record here speaks for itself ... I have from day one ALWAYS said that "it is the democratic right of EVERY earthling to voice their opinion" ... but for heaven's sake, post you thread and then let it be.

What irks me is when a thread is posted and the OP then replies to their own thread a gazillion times!


Mm.. yeah I have seen that done quite a bit.. I admit, that is annoying.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:22 pm
by Mickiel
jones jones;1446340 wrote: You are a very wise lady Chloe with far far more patience than I.

I think that my record here speaks for itself ... I have from day one ALWAYS said that "it is the democratic right of EVERY earthling to voice their opinion" ... but for heaven's sake, post you thread and then let it be.

What irks me is when a thread is posted and the OP then replies to their own thread a gazillion times!




I am going to reply to yours too; I will visit your threads.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:22 pm
by G#Gill
jones jones;1446314 wrote: I've been holding back on posting this thread, hoping against hope that some member with much more clout than me would perhaps take up the cudgels.

Alas no such luck.

When I in my infinite ignorance & in an attempt to create a positive vibe about FG, posted images on the Front Page, I was told that they would be moved so as to prevent guests/potential members from getting the wrong impression about Forum Garden.

Now Religious thread after Religious thread appears ad nauseum on The Front page.

Certain members have come out in support of these Threads and others keep them relevant by replying and thereby encouraging the OP's.

And yeah yeah I know about this being a Discussion Forum.

But heed my warning or discard it as you wish, but not only will this discourage guests from joining, it will also drive away the already dwindling membership of the faithful ones who have been here from day one.


Who told you, Jj, that your thread would give the wrong impression about Forum Garden ? At the moment, people reading the front page would be forgiven for believing that Forum Garden was a 'religious forum', so why should a few odd pictures cause a problem ? I have started posting on Forum Garden after being absent for about 3 years. I am having to rethink this action, because it would seem that Forum Garden is being hi-jacked by various religious and non-religious people intent on occupying the front page and the 'today's posts' list page, with their various numerous posts !

At one time a few years ago there was a problem with saturation of the front page and the daily post list page by 'word games' and there was a bit of an outcry about that. I thought I would come back to a Forum Garden that had changed for the better, in that certain trouble-makers left the site for pastures new and members were posting interesting posts containing a wide variety of subjects. There was also a noticeable lack of spats. There were debates, discussions etc, and the usual tongue-in-cheek banter and that was good news for the site.

However there is now this religion, anti-religion argument creeping in and seemingly taking over Forum Garden ! I have posted a couple of new threads to help vary the front page, but it is difficult to think of interesting subjects to start a thread about, or at least a thread that hasn't already covered a subject. Maybe it would be a more helpful action if the religious, anti-religious groups refrained from adding more and more threads, mostly about the same things and just used the threads already in existence !

Please don't be hogs. There are other subjects besides relgion, believe it or not !

Jj does have a point - I'm wondering if I've done the right thing in returning and posting more often, because although I am only one member there must be many more who are heartily bored with this current religion trend, that is so saturating, and are seriously thinking of going to other sites. Perhaps it is a deliberate act by these people to try to sabotage Forum Garden and drive people away ! ? Just a thought! :-5 :thinking:

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:25 pm
by Mickiel
G#Gill;1446345 wrote: Who told you, Jj, that your thread would give the wrong impression about Forum Garden ? At the moment, people reading the front page would be forgiven for believing that Forum Garden was a 'religious forum', so why should a few odd pictures cause a problem ? I have started posting on Forum Garden after being absent for about 3 years. I am having to rethink this action, because it would seem that Forum Garden is being hi-jacked by various religious and non-religious people intent on occupying the front page and the 'today's posts' list page, with their various numerous posts !

At one time a few years ago there was a problem with saturation of the front page and the daily post list page by 'word games' and there was a bit of an outcry about that. I thought I would come back to a Forum Garden that had changed for the better, in that certain trouble-makers left the site for pastures new and members were posting interesting posts containing a wide variety of subjects. There was also a noticeable lack of spats. There were debates, discussions etc, and the usual tongue-in-cheek banter and that was good news for the site.

However there is now this religion, anti-religion argument creeping in and seemingly taking over Forum Garden ! I have posted a couple of new threads to help vary the front page, but it is difficult to think of interesting subjects to start a thread about, or at least a thread that hasn't already covered a subject. Maybe it would be a more helpful action if the religious, anti-religious groups refrained from adding more and more threads, mostly about the same things and just used the threads already in existance !

Please don't be hogs. There are other subjects besides relgion, believe it or not !

Jj does have a point - I'm wondering if I've done the right thing in returning and posting more often, because although I am only one member there must be many more who are heartily bored with this current religion trend, that is so saturating, and are seriously thinking of going to other sites. Perhaps it is a deliberate act by these people to try to sabotage Forum Garden and drive people away ! ? Just a thought! :-5 :thinking:




Translation; if I say the site will loose members because of religious threads, maybe I will scare the site and intimidate them into banishing those threads.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:29 pm
by jones jones
G#Gill;1446345 wrote: Who told you, Jj, that your thread would give the wrong impression about Forum Garden ? At the moment, people reading the front page would be forgiven for believing that Forum Garden was a 'religious forum', so why should a few odd pictures cause a problem ? I have started posting on Forum Garden after being absent for about 3 years. I am having to rethink this action, because it would seem that Forum Garden is being hi-jacked by various religious and non-religious people intent on occupying the front page and the 'today's posts' list page, with their various numerous posts !

At one time a few years ago there was a problem with saturation of the front page and the daily post list page by 'word games' and there was a bit of an outcry about that. I thought I would come back to a Forum Garden that had changed for the better, in that certain trouble-makers left the site for pastures new and members were posting interesting posts containing a wide variety of subjects. There was also a noticeable lack of spats. There were debates, discussions etc, and the usual tongue-in-cheek banter and that was good news for the site.

However there is now this religion, anti-religion argument creeping in and seemingly taking over Forum Garden ! I have posted a couple of new threads to help vary the front page, but it is difficult to think of interesting subjects to start a thread about, or at least a thread that hasn't already covered a subject. Maybe it would be a more helpful action if the religious, anti-religious groups refrained from adding more and more threads, mostly about the same things and just used the threads already in existance !

Please don't be hogs. There are other subjects besides relgion, believe it or not !

Jj does have a point - I'm wondering if I've done the right thing in returning and posting more often, because although I am only one member there must be many more who are heartily bored with this current religion trend, that is so saturating, and are seriously thinking of going to other sites. Perhaps it is a deliberate act by these people to try to sabotage Forum Garden and drive people away ! ? Just a thought! :-5 :thinking:


As you say, we try to post threads that are hopefully different. Having said that, I do often post threads that are similar in content such as my Weird, Wacky& Freaky Fotos Thread, but at least the images are different. Variety is the spice of life ...

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:49 pm
by Hope6
First let me ask, JJ what thread was moved from the front page? I think it all boils down to, members having the right to post about whatever they want to talk about and religion is a popular topic. If you don't want to read it, then don't read it, or better yet post topics of your own that you find interesting. I do say that it seems wrong for JJ's thread to have been moved from the front page. Threads should be allowed to progress however they do, if they stay up front or if they move down the board. One thing that does kinda irritate me though....is non-religious people going into the religious thread just to complain or tease the OP.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:52 pm
by jones jones
It was a while back Georgia but I don't want to dwell on it because I have been there ... done that. I only mentioned it for the reasons I quoted.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:53 pm
by Hope6
Well I think that was wrong whatever the subject. :)

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:04 pm
by Oscar Namechange
G#Gill;1446345 wrote: Who told you, Jj, that your thread would give the wrong impression about Forum Garden ? At the moment, people reading the front page would be forgiven for believing that Forum Garden was a 'religious forum', so why should a few odd pictures cause a problem ? I have started posting on Forum Garden after being absent for about 3 years. I am having to rethink this action, because it would seem that Forum Garden is being hi-jacked by various religious and non-religious people intent on occupying the front page and the 'today's posts' list page, with their various numerous posts !

At one time a few years ago there was a problem with saturation of the front page and the daily post list page by 'word games' and there was a bit of an outcry about that. I thought I would come back to a Forum Garden that had changed for the better, in that certain trouble-makers left the site for pastures new and members were posting interesting posts containing a wide variety of subjects. There was also a noticeable lack of spats. There were debates, discussions etc, and the usual tongue-in-cheek banter and that was good news for the site.

However there is now this religion, anti-religion argument creeping in and seemingly taking over Forum Garden ! I have posted a couple of new threads to help vary the front page, but it is difficult to think of interesting subjects to start a thread about, or at least a thread that hasn't already covered a subject. Maybe it would be a more helpful action if the religious, anti-religious groups refrained from adding more and more threads, mostly about the same things and just used the threads already in existance !

Please don't be hogs. There are other subjects besides relgion, believe it or not !

Jj does have a point - I'm wondering if I've done the right thing in returning and posting more often, because although I am only one member there must be many more who are heartily bored with this current religion trend, that is so saturating, and are seriously thinking of going to other sites. Perhaps it is a deliberate act by these people to try to sabotage Forum Garden and drive people away ! ? Just a thought! :-5 :thinking:
I have some critique of this post.

Yes, you have posted a couple of new threads but take the thread of Dog Poo... you posted It and then left It. You did not return to that thread to answer replies... that's why It died out.

Yet here you are critisizing those who post In the religious section for doing exactly that. If someone posts In Mikiel's threads, he has the curtesy to respond. That's what most people do.

Another thing Is any forum must change... nothing ever stays the same... yet we have members who leave and by their own admission, as you have here, return after years away and then Immediately critisize the format on their return.

No It's not a deliberate act to drive people away and sabotage the forum. That's a ridiculous thing to say.

The problem simply Is this... Too many watchers. Not enough varied new threads and even when there are, members reading those OP's and then feeling they don't have to contribute. It Is this apathy that see's the front page full of religious threads not the religious threads per say.

I can understand JJ being put out as he does put In a huge amount of work to bring varied threads but how many of you read them but can't even be bothered to post ' Great pics JJ ' ? That would keep the thread going... but because the religious answer each other, you're all complaining.

By your reasoning, Mikiel can't win.. If he were to post a seperate thread for every topic of religion, you'd all be whining that he has posted too many threads. Yet, when he adds something to his original thread, you're all whining he's bumped the thread... by the way, exactly the same as I do on my big race write up... exactly the same as Along for the ride does on her chatty threads.... exactly the same as Tyr does on his BBC thread.... the only problem here, Is you don't like the subject.

Yeah you posted a couple of threads... The Impact of a couple of threads Is like removing an ant colony by taking out two ants...

Other threads by all members need to be constant not a flash In the pan so you can say ' well I did my bit and the religious threads ruined It. My suspicion Is this Is a bandwagon looking for new passengers and you're all happy to jump on board for free.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:10 pm
by Hope6
I agree with you Oscar, we have an obligation to reply to someone who posts in our threads. I try to make sure I respond to everyone who replies to me, I just think it's polite. I do have a problem with people who keep bumping up a thread when no one has responded to it. :)

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:12 pm
by YZGI
LarsMac;1446332 wrote: My Kenyan friend used to say something about "every stick you throw feeds the fire."

I am sure that someone here will get the meaning.


Very good.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:20 pm
by tabby
I think this long ago ceased to be about religion. It's now about censorship and segregation in the form of threats of banishment from the site. It's stupid.

If you don't like a topic or an individual, scroll down past their new posts. The mouse is a technically simple device ... just hold it down and keep scrolling till you see someone you approve of ... it's easy as pie.

I seriously doubt it's the religion threads stopping people from visiting.


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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:22 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Hope6;1446367 wrote: I agree with you Oscar, we have an obligation to reply to someone who posts in our threads. I try to make sure I respond to everyone who replies to me, I just think it's polite. I do have a problem with people who keep bumping up a thread when no one has responded to it. :) If the subject of the thread Is specific then Yes but when one thread covers a general subject, I feel It's better to confine anything related to that general subject to a couple of threads Instead of seperate threads for all.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:23 pm
by YZGI
tabby;1446380 wrote: I think this long ago ceased to be about religion. It's now about censorship and segregation in the form of threats of banishment from the site. It's stupid.

If you don't like a topic or an individual, scroll down past their new posts. The mouse is a technically simple device ... just hold it down and keep scrolling till you see someone you approve of ... it's easy as pie.

I seriously doubt it's the religion threads stopping people from visiting.




Agreed, I don't recall ever complaining about it but I did try to make a humorous thread about it, which went both directions.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:26 pm
by AnneBoleyn
YZGI;1446386 wrote: Agreed, I don't recall ever complaining about it but I did try to make a humorous thread about it, which went both directions.


The best laid schemes of mice and men often go astray.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:27 pm
by Hope6
Oscar that's an excellent idea, anything about a general subject could be put into one thread. :)

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:30 pm
by Oscar Namechange
YZGI;1446386 wrote: Agreed, I don't recall ever complaining about it but I did try to make a humorous thread about it, which went both directions.


Tabby Is right.

One of the reasons I defend Mikiel Is I see the gang mentality slowing creeping back Into this forum. Back to the old days when If you were not In the gang, or someone else wasn't, you hounded them out by reporting posts and other such tactics such as accuse them of bullying when In fact the bullies were the one's who Instigated It. Passive aggressives who sit on the sidelines until enough members have jumped on the bandwagon and then, there they are joining In what rapidly becomes a witch hunt. Yet waiting until enough members have said their piece before joining In the witch hunt so to dupe that they are are merely commentating on what's already been said rather than be seen as stirring the pot.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:31 pm
by tabby
YZGI;1446386 wrote: Agreed, I don't recall ever complaining about it but I did try to make a humorous thread about it, which went both directions.


I enjoyed your thread. It started out funny and Oscar made it even funnier! In retrospect though, you shouldn't have gone with horse racing ... probably boxing or possibly even a 3 Ring Circus.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:33 pm
by YZGI
AnneBoleyn;1446392 wrote: The best laid schemes of mice and men often go astray.


Ouch, now I'm a rodent.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:35 pm
by YZGI
YZGI;1446386 wrote: Agreed, I don't recall ever complaining about it but I did try to make a humorous thread about it, which went both directions.


oscar;1446395 wrote: Tabby Is right.

One of the reasons I defend Mikiel Is I see the gang mentality slowing creeping back Into this forum. Back to the old days when If you were not In the gang, or someone else wasn't, you hounded them out by reporting posts and other such tactics such as accuse them of bullying when In fact the bullies were the one's who Instigated It. Passive aggressives who sit on the sidelines until enough members have jumped on the bandwagon and then, there they are joining In what rapidly becomes a witch hunt. Yet waiting until enough members have said their piece before joining In the witch hunt so to dupe that they are are merely commentating on what's already been said rather than be seen as stirring the pot.


I'm trying to decide if I've been reprimanded here or not.:-3

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:36 pm
by tabby
YZGI;1446404 wrote: I'm trying to decide if I've been reprimanded here or not.:-3


Not by me and not by Oscar.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:37 pm
by AnneBoleyn
YZGI;1446404 wrote: I'm trying to decide if I've been reprimanded here or not.:-3

Ouch, now I'm a rodent.
YZ, you've been a bad boy! Now pick up your toys & eat your cheese!

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:00 pm
by Oscar Namechange
YZGI;1446404 wrote: I'm trying to decide if I've been reprimanded here or not.:-3 Not by me... It needed some light relief... I was getting confused with the religious threads. the threads complaining about the religious threads, the threads complaining about the complainers who were complaining about the religious threads, the agnostics complaining about the religious, the threads complaining about the agnostics complaining about the religious and the complainers complaining about agnostics complaining.

I wanted to complain.

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:08 pm
by YZGI
oscar;1446431 wrote: Not by me... It needed some light relief... I was getting confused with the religious threads. the threads complaining about the religious threads, the threads complaining about the complainers who were complaining about the religious threads, the agnostics complaining about the religious, the threads complaining about the agnostics complaining about the religious and the complainers complaining about agnostics complaining.

I wanted to complain.


Run that by me again..

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:25 pm
by Oscar Namechange
YZGI;1446437 wrote: Run that by me again..


I couldn't run that by myself again, let alone you...

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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:55 pm
by G#Gill
[quote from Mickiel in reference to post 23 :-

Translation; if I say the site will loose members because of religious threads, maybe I will scare the site and intimidate them into banishing those threads. ]

Mickiel that is just so much tosh ! How on earth do you know what I'm thinking ? What you are saying could be construed as "Flaming" FG General Rules 1.1 I'd be grateful if you would pack it in please. I shall say no more in case somebody jumps in to take me to task again, for some reason ! :-3

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:33 am
by jones jones
Oscar ... Gilly ... Annie ... I think we have all been at one time or another a target of "the gang mentality."

Especially Oscar & The Chosen who have been infracted and banned more than most FG members simply because we refuse to conform ...

Forgive me Oscar if I am speaking for you and you don't agree.

I love FG and always have and despite the efforts of certain people who will remain anonymous ... we are both still here.

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:37 pm
by AnneBoleyn
No, JJ, Never in My Entire Life have I been targeted by a gang mentality. Well, to be honest, I must amend that, as my sister, brother-in-law & my 3 nephews have refused to speak to me in over 10 years, since our mother died & I had cancer. They just abruptly stopped communicating & I have missed out on weddings & the births of several grandnieces, nephew. And, we were always close & they hang up if I call.

But enough of my misery, I try & fail to forget that each day. It's a heartbreak of immense proportions, & I guess that might fall under being targeted by a gang mentality. So many times I want to ask about it in a thread, but..............isn't it about time I let it go? That's what I try to learn in meditation.

I remember in High School one or two girls may have tried, but I set them right straightaway. No one has ever bullied me. Because I'm so lovable, I guess. ;-D.

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:55 pm
by G#Gill
When I was at school and all of 10 years old and the youngest in the school, my friend called Janet was being picked on by a boy called Meade. He was probably the biggest (height and girth) lad in our year as well as the year above us ! He wore glasses so it wouldn't be a good idea to thump him on his nose ! One day he was really teasing Janet and was upsetting her and she was near to tears, so I summoned up all my strength and punched him as hard as I could in his stomach - he gasped and bent double clutching his stomach and trying to gasp for air, he was very winded ! There were quite a few lads standing around and the looks on their faces were ones of amazement and disbelief that this 10 year old girl should thump Meade and cause him such discomfort !

What they didn't know was that I had two older brothers and a girl has to stick up for herself hasn't she ? There was no more teasing or bullying from that lad Meade, or any of the other lads. Life was quite comfortable after that incident ! :yh_rotfl

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:59 pm
by AnneBoleyn
You're my hero, Gill. My sister is 5 years older & she was very shy & was picked on & one day coming home from school with her (I was 8 or less) Irwin, a big, tall, huge kid made fun of her so without thinking I ran over, kicked his knees till he doubled over in agony & ran like hell. He never bothered me after that, as I was kind of scared to see him, & I don't know if he teased my sister, but if he did it was not in front of me.