Bureaucratic Hell...The Department of Motor Vehicles
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:06 am
Got a horror story? I'll start with a wild one from the past few days...
I noticed my driver's license was due to expire. I had previously tried to renew it, but was told that they no longer allowed people to renew it too early, you had to wait until it was within 90 days of expiration. So I waited until I got a notice in the mail and proceeded to go down to the office.
As usual, I expected a 2 to 3 hour wait, that's pretty much normal for our little town of 30,000. (We only have one DMV office and it’s usually staffed by only 4 people.)Well, things had changed in the 4 years I had been away. They now had a line to see a woman who would give you a number so that you could wait in line. Typical, eh? After about an hour of waiting, a woman came out and told everyone, "If you are waiting to get your Driver's License, the computers just went down statewide." There was a little grumbling, and I politely asked, "About how long do you expect them to be down?"
Attendant: "I don't know."
Me:"How long are they usually down?" (sneaky of me, since she now had to admit to everyone that the computers went up and down all the time.)
Attendant: "Usually about two hours."
Not satisfied, I asked, "Have they been down previously today?"
Attendant: (forgetting her crowd) "Oh yes, they go up and down all day long."
(Then she suddenly saw that the crowd was glaring at her.)
Attendant: "You can wait if you want, but it's up to you."
Me: "I'll take my chances."
Well I waited another hour, but the computers never came back online. Now I had a problem, my license was due to expire in two days, and unfortunately, that was a Sunday. Like all good State-run operations, with complete disregard to their customers, the DMV didn't open on the weekends and closed at 4:00pm everyday before anyone could get out of work.
So I asked the woman at the counter:
Me: "Do you suppose I could get a piece of paper stating that your computers were down today?"
Woman: "Why?"
Me: "Well, so in case I get pulled over on Monday coming here, I won't get in trouble."
Woman:" No, just talk to the judge."
Me: "But if you'd just give me a statement, I could avoid wasting the city's time."
Woman: "You had 90 days to take care of this."
Me: "And I'm HERE inside the 90-day window. I took care of my responsibility to get here, you're not taking care of your responsibility to renew my license."
Woman: "That's not my problem."
Me: Yes...yes it is. That's your responsibility."
Woman: "No, it's not."
Me: "Look...what am I supposed to tell the officer if I get pulled over?"
Woman: "Don't get pulled over."
So I returned on Monday, looking over both shoulders to make sure I wasn't being tailed, and being scrupulously careful not to speed.
After another three-hour wait I was finally in front of the "woman" again.
Woman: "Well you're in luck! The computers are up today!"
Me: (failing to see anything funny in the situation.) "Yes, what incredible luck."
Woman: "May I have your old license?"
Me: "Here it is."
Woman: "This license is expired."
Me: “¦.
Woman: (Deciding that the savage look in my eye was an indicator that she shouldn't continue on that course) "Let's run you through the computer."
I wasn't worried, after all I hadn't had a ticket in a quarter century, and had previously renewed my license two times at this very place.
Woman: "Hmmm...it seems you have a PCPS hold on your license."
Me: "A pukpus?"
Woman: (eyeing my like a serial killer) "Have you ever been to Arizona?"
Me: "Yes, but I haven't lived there since the '80s!"
Woman: "Well you won't be renewing your license today, call this number."
So I go home, wondering what in the world could be wrong. Did I forget to pay a ticket? Is there a warrant out for my arrest? I'm a blasted schoolteacher for Pete's Sake! I don't even double park! I call up Arizona from my house.
Operator: (After a 15 minute wait on hold) "May I help you?"
Me: "Yes, I have a PCPS hold on my license and would like to find out what's wrong."
Woman: "Oh I'll have to transfer you to the next floor."
Second operator: "May I help you?"
Me: "Yes, I'm trying to find out why my license is on hold." ( I give her my information.)
Woman: "Okay, we see that you had a ticket."
Me: "Did I pay it?"
Woman: "Yes, yes you did!"
Me: "So why am I on hold?"
Woman: "Because you never paid the fee to reinstate your Arizona driver's license."
Me: "But I never had an Arizona driver's license!"
Woman: (scans the records) "That's true, you didn't.
"
Me: "Okay, I'm confused. How can I pay to reinstate a license I never had?"
Woman: "That's not my problem." (Apparently, they include this phrase in DMV training, since I had now heard it from two separate states.)
Me: "How much is the fee?"
Woman: "Ten dollars."
Me: "Can I take care of this now?"
Woman: "Do you have a credit card?"
Me: "Yes."
Woman: "No problem! Let me transfer you to the next floor!"
This time I waited for thirty minutes on hold, and worse yet, they had no music, just a guy saying, "we're sorry..." over and over again. "Yeah, I thought, that describes this operation pretty exactly."
Finally....
Operator: "Ok, can I help you?"
Me: "I'd like to pay my fine."
Operator: "It's ten dollars, are you putting it on debit?"
Me: "Yes."
I calculated the amount of time on hold...one hour. That my lost of time actually bigger than the fine.
I went back to the DMV the next day to renew my license. The computers were working. I had to wait an hour, but I was happy that I could finally get out of this bureaucratic whirlpool.
Another different lady behind the counter greeted me, then announced, “This license is suspended¦
I noticed my driver's license was due to expire. I had previously tried to renew it, but was told that they no longer allowed people to renew it too early, you had to wait until it was within 90 days of expiration. So I waited until I got a notice in the mail and proceeded to go down to the office.
As usual, I expected a 2 to 3 hour wait, that's pretty much normal for our little town of 30,000. (We only have one DMV office and it’s usually staffed by only 4 people.)Well, things had changed in the 4 years I had been away. They now had a line to see a woman who would give you a number so that you could wait in line. Typical, eh? After about an hour of waiting, a woman came out and told everyone, "If you are waiting to get your Driver's License, the computers just went down statewide." There was a little grumbling, and I politely asked, "About how long do you expect them to be down?"
Attendant: "I don't know."
Me:"How long are they usually down?" (sneaky of me, since she now had to admit to everyone that the computers went up and down all the time.)
Attendant: "Usually about two hours."
Not satisfied, I asked, "Have they been down previously today?"
Attendant: (forgetting her crowd) "Oh yes, they go up and down all day long."
(Then she suddenly saw that the crowd was glaring at her.)
Attendant: "You can wait if you want, but it's up to you."
Me: "I'll take my chances."
Well I waited another hour, but the computers never came back online. Now I had a problem, my license was due to expire in two days, and unfortunately, that was a Sunday. Like all good State-run operations, with complete disregard to their customers, the DMV didn't open on the weekends and closed at 4:00pm everyday before anyone could get out of work.
So I asked the woman at the counter:
Me: "Do you suppose I could get a piece of paper stating that your computers were down today?"
Woman: "Why?"
Me: "Well, so in case I get pulled over on Monday coming here, I won't get in trouble."
Woman:" No, just talk to the judge."
Me: "But if you'd just give me a statement, I could avoid wasting the city's time."
Woman: "You had 90 days to take care of this."
Me: "And I'm HERE inside the 90-day window. I took care of my responsibility to get here, you're not taking care of your responsibility to renew my license."
Woman: "That's not my problem."
Me: Yes...yes it is. That's your responsibility."
Woman: "No, it's not."
Me: "Look...what am I supposed to tell the officer if I get pulled over?"
Woman: "Don't get pulled over."
So I returned on Monday, looking over both shoulders to make sure I wasn't being tailed, and being scrupulously careful not to speed.
After another three-hour wait I was finally in front of the "woman" again.
Woman: "Well you're in luck! The computers are up today!"
Me: (failing to see anything funny in the situation.) "Yes, what incredible luck."
Woman: "May I have your old license?"
Me: "Here it is."
Woman: "This license is expired."
Me: “¦.
Woman: (Deciding that the savage look in my eye was an indicator that she shouldn't continue on that course) "Let's run you through the computer."
I wasn't worried, after all I hadn't had a ticket in a quarter century, and had previously renewed my license two times at this very place.
Woman: "Hmmm...it seems you have a PCPS hold on your license."
Me: "A pukpus?"
Woman: (eyeing my like a serial killer) "Have you ever been to Arizona?"
Me: "Yes, but I haven't lived there since the '80s!"
Woman: "Well you won't be renewing your license today, call this number."
So I go home, wondering what in the world could be wrong. Did I forget to pay a ticket? Is there a warrant out for my arrest? I'm a blasted schoolteacher for Pete's Sake! I don't even double park! I call up Arizona from my house.
Operator: (After a 15 minute wait on hold) "May I help you?"
Me: "Yes, I have a PCPS hold on my license and would like to find out what's wrong."
Woman: "Oh I'll have to transfer you to the next floor."
Second operator: "May I help you?"
Me: "Yes, I'm trying to find out why my license is on hold." ( I give her my information.)
Woman: "Okay, we see that you had a ticket."
Me: "Did I pay it?"
Woman: "Yes, yes you did!"
Me: "So why am I on hold?"
Woman: "Because you never paid the fee to reinstate your Arizona driver's license."
Me: "But I never had an Arizona driver's license!"
Woman: (scans the records) "That's true, you didn't.
"
Me: "Okay, I'm confused. How can I pay to reinstate a license I never had?"
Woman: "That's not my problem." (Apparently, they include this phrase in DMV training, since I had now heard it from two separate states.)
Me: "How much is the fee?"
Woman: "Ten dollars."
Me: "Can I take care of this now?"
Woman: "Do you have a credit card?"
Me: "Yes."
Woman: "No problem! Let me transfer you to the next floor!"
This time I waited for thirty minutes on hold, and worse yet, they had no music, just a guy saying, "we're sorry..." over and over again. "Yeah, I thought, that describes this operation pretty exactly."
Finally....
Operator: "Ok, can I help you?"
Me: "I'd like to pay my fine."
Operator: "It's ten dollars, are you putting it on debit?"
Me: "Yes."
I calculated the amount of time on hold...one hour. That my lost of time actually bigger than the fine.
I went back to the DMV the next day to renew my license. The computers were working. I had to wait an hour, but I was happy that I could finally get out of this bureaucratic whirlpool.
Another different lady behind the counter greeted me, then announced, “This license is suspended¦