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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:55 am
by G#Gill
I've just been approached by somebody who knows that I post in Forum Garden from time to time. Although they used to be a member here, they very rarely visit FG. now.

They have asked me to post about another site that wants to increase the number of members who enjoy debating and discussing any subject. You wouldn't have to forsake your membership on here, just pop in to this other site from time to time and enjoy debating etc. with other like-minded posters ! The site link is Board For Us

Maybe some of you may have heard of it already. I know you would be made very welcome by existing members on that site, and quickly accepted as a friend. Give it a try, you don't have to totally commit yourself and you can come and go as you wish, of course.

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:58 am
by Oscar Namechange
So, on one hand, you're saying that this member very rarely visits Forum Garden now but on the other hand, they'd like us to join their new forum?

How does that work exactly?



I'm making an assumption here but I am guessing that this old member rarely visits FG because they find It lacking Interest or the topics not to their taste or because FG has been a little slow of late.

If It's the latter, then surely, taking members from here, would In turn make FG even slower and less Interesting.

On the other hand, If they find the topics and members on FG of value to the forum world, then why don't they continue posting here with our members as well as their own forum?

Are you poaching Mrs? Because If so, we'll slap your bare buttocks with an oily birch twig. :wah:

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:02 am
by Betty Boop
It is rather cheeky! Oscar I nominate you to pop over there, join up and put a link up for here :wah:

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:07 am
by Snowfire
I only come here to slap the back of Oscars legs occasionally. I can't be arsed chasing her round another forum as well

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:14 am
by Týr
It sounds a bit like EA. People used to advertise that here too. I wonder how they're doing.

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:35 am
by Oscar Namechange
I vote we all descend upon Gilly's house, strip her naked, slather her In honey and tie her to a tree next to a farmers bee hives.

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:02 am
by G#Gill
Oscar Namechange;1461993 wrote: So, on one hand, you're saying that this member very rarely visits Forum Garden now but on the other hand, they'd like us to join their new forum?

How does that work exactly?



I'm making an assumption here but I am guessing that this old member rarely visits FG because they find It lacking Interest or the topics not to their taste or because FG has been a little slow of late.

If It's the latter, then surely, taking members from here, would In turn make FG even slower and less Interesting.

On the other hand, If they find the topics and members on FG of value to the forum world, then why don't they continue posting here with our members as well as their own forum?

Are you poaching Mrs? Because If so, we'll slap your bare buttocks with an oily birch twig. :wah:


It is such a pity you didn't read my post properly Oscar :rolleyes: Perhaps you'd better go and have another try at reading it. You always seem to get hold of the wrong end of the stick and read the worst interpretation of things, Mrs ! Oh, and if you must know, that particular person doesn't want to visit this site because of the way it went three or so years ago when several of us were hounded off by insults, belittling and bullying. I'm pleased to see that that section of the membership appears to have gone elsewhere now !

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:19 am
by G#Gill
Oscar Namechange;1462006 wrote: I vote we all descend upon Gilly's house, strip her naked, slather her In honey and tie her to a tree next to a farmers bee hives.


:-2 That sounds a bit silly ! And not a little kinky ! I've not noticed this side of you before, Oscar ! mmm :thinking:

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:29 am
by Oscar Namechange
G#Gill;1462008 wrote: It is such a pity you didn't read my post properly Oscar :rolleyes: Perhaps you'd better go and have another try at reading it. You always seem to get hold of the wrong end of the stick and read the worst interpretation of things, Mrs ! Oh, and if you must know, that particular person doesn't want to visit this site because of the way it went three or so years ago when several of us were hounded off by insults, belittling and bullying. I'm pleased to see that that section of the membership appears to have gone elsewhere now !


Au contraire Madam. I read your OP perfectly correctly.

Sorry but you've now totally contradicted yourself.

If you are Indeed pleased to see that the section of the membership appears to have gone elsewhere now and that this ex member doesn't want to visit the site because of the way It went three years ago, then why would they want our members to join their new forum?

It's contradictory. If FG Is now a green and pleasent land with the bullys having gone elsewhere and no sign of that kind of behaviour In the last three years, then there's absolutely no reason for that ex member to start posting here again Is there?

Or are you saying that the ex member won't risk coming here again In case FG goes the same way It went three years ago?

If that's the case, why target this forum?

Many of us here over the years are still In touch with old members, mostly on Facebook. We all still talk to each other. So, there's every possibility that word of this new forum will be passed on by members who are still In touch with the bully's as you put It, and you run the risk of those ' bullies' joining the new forum at any time In the future and disrupting the forum. That's always the risk of posting news of new forums and sorry, but I believe you should have done It by private message personally and kept It off the board.

What you have In effect done, Is lay this new forum wide open to any guest looking In who may be friend or foe. Many ex members, even those banned still log on as guests and all of them now have the link Including the one's you regard as the bullies.

So ner

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:42 am
by FG-administator
Oscar Namechange;1462010 wrote: Many ex members, even those banned still log on as guestsForumGarden's management would like to reassure viewers that no ex-member, banned or otherwise, has ever logged onto this site as a guest. Do not attempt to adjust your reality filters, it has not happened, it is not happening and it will not happen. Deselect the checkbox labelled "Believe everything you reed on the Internet? Y/N", some information will make more sense that way.

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:48 am
by Oscar Namechange
Anyone can go Into FG cold from google. They don't have to log In to read threads.

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:01 am
by Peter Lake
Oscar is right. I go in from google and read threads most days without ever logging on. There are twenty three guests currently viewing this thread right now and most of them won't be logged in as i wasn't until i opted to post.

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:07 am
by FG-administator
I'm glad you both recognize the correctness of my post, then.

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:31 am
by G#Gill
Oscar Namechange;1462010 wrote: Au contraire Madam. I read your OP perfectly correctly.

Sorry but you've now totally contradicted yourself.

If you are Indeed pleased to see that the section of the membership appears to have gone elsewhere now and that this ex member doesn't want to visit the site because of the way It went three years ago, then why would they want our members to join their new forum?

It's contradictory. If FG Is now a green and pleasent land with the bullys having gone elsewhere and no sign of that kind of behaviour In the last three years, then there's absolutely no reason for that ex member to start posting here again Is there?

Or are you saying that the ex member won't risk coming here again In case FG goes the same way It went three years ago?

If that's the case, why target this forum?

Many of us here over the years are still In touch with old members, mostly on Facebook. We all still talk to each other. So, there's every possibility that word of this new forum will be passed on by members who are still In touch with the bully's as you put It, and you run the risk of those ' bullies' joining the new forum at any time In the future and disrupting the forum. That's always the risk of posting news of new forums and sorry, but I believe you should have done It by private message personally and kept It off the board.

What you have In effect done, Is lay this new forum wide open to any guest looking In who may be friend or foe. Many ex members, even those banned still log on as guests and all of them now have the link Including the one's you regard as the bullies.

So ner


You know, all I wanted to do was to point out that there was another site which had debate/discussion threads on it, like FG ! Nobody is asking members here to leave Forum Garden !!!!! For pity's sake, it seems to me that Oscar's "raison d'etre " is to confuse herself so much that any reply from her is very muddled and just causes conflict ! I'll leave you all to it. I've done what I said I would do for my friend.

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:48 am
by FG-administator
G#Gill;1462021 wrote: I've done what I said I would do for my friend.It would, I think, be more polite if you were to tell us who you've acted for rather than leaving the person anonymous, since you've said it's a common acquaintance. Anonymity in these circumstances invariably grates.

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:50 am
by Peter Lake
G#Gill;1462021 wrote: You know, all I wanted to do was to point out that there was another site which had debate/discussion threads on it, like FG ! Nobody is asking members here to leave Forum Garden !!!!! For pity's sake, it seems to me that Oscar's "raison d'etre " is to confuse herself so much that any reply from her is very muddled and just causes conflict ! I'll leave you all to it. I've done what I said I would do for my friend. Trust me, Oscar is rarely confused as she's not here. She's made a fine point in that anyone can read threads by going in cold from google without logging in and that means any former members who you classify as undesirable. I have to agree with her in that you have left your new forum wide open for trolls as anyone can see the link you've posted. It's constructive criticism to point out that you should have done this through private message and not an attack on you. I'd say that is far removed from confused and more thinking things through objectively.

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:53 am
by FG-administator
Peter Lake;1462025 wrote: anyone can read threads by going in cold from google without logging in
Why is it that people reed what they want to see and not what's actually written? Oscar said "Many ex members, even those banned still log on as guests". How does her "log on" equate with your "without logging in", Peter?

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:57 am
by Peter Lake
FG;1462027 wrote: Why is it that people reed what they want to see and not what's actually written? Oscar said "Many ex members, even those banned still log on as guests". How does her "log on" equate with your "without logging in", Peter? Maybe she wrote the post in haste but i'm sure she meant that banned ex members could read threads as guests going in cold from google. She confused her post with " log in ". I'll give her a slap.

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:10 pm
by kazalala
HI everyone :) Im sorry to cause such trouble here,, the person Gill is referring to is me :D

Gill sorry I caused you this trouble with our conversation, i do apologise.

I was talking to Gill about another forum I am now admin on ( not TPV Oscar) and as I knew she still popped in here from time to time asked her to pass on the link or mention it to see if anyone was interested. The political section there can get quite busy but has died down a bit and i knew some here liked the political side of forums. Its a bit like here actually, diverse and people from all over. I didnt mean for to take membership away from here at all, ( to be honest i think all here have been here long enough to stay loyal anyway) but just somewhere else for a change sometimes maybe.

Anyway I asked Gill to mention if she had the chance because ,, as she said i never really post here anymore and i did'nt want to come here and just spam.. but i spose i just did :yh_rotfl hey ho never mind, im sure it will give you all summat to talk about for a bit.

Take care :)

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:14 pm
by G#Gill
FG;1462024 wrote: It would, I think, be more polite if you were to tell us who you've acted for rather than leaving the person anonymous, since you've said it's a common acquaintance. Anonymity in these circumstances invariably grates.


Oh don't you start ! I really don't see the import of naming my friend, as all I asked is for folk to pop in to that site - an open invitation. The 'friend' might well have been me, actually

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:21 pm
by kazalala
G#Gill;1462032 wrote: Oh don't you start ! I really don't see the import of naming my friend, as all I asked is for folk to pop in to that site - an open invitation. The 'friend' might well have been me, actually


Thanks for trying Gill I should have made clear i wasnt concerned if you mentioned my name.

You never know,, it could work in FG favour too,, some members from there may want to check out here ;)

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:25 pm
by High Threshold
Oscar Namechange;1461993 wrote:

... Mrs ..... we'll slap your bare buttocks with an oily birch twig. :wah:


Let me, let me!

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:30 pm
by FG-administator
Peter Lake;1462018 wrote: Oscar is right. I go in from google and read threads most days without ever logging on.Just so I can form a better picture, where does google fit into your visits here?

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:35 pm
by recovering conservative
I don't know whether I will consider this new forum....I took a look at a large active forum that was suggested to me previously, but there were things about it that made me reluctant to join in. There are too many forums these days, and most of them look like they are just there to get ad-clicks, and it's almost impossible now to find a forum where you can drift from issue to different issues when you get tired of talking about politics or religion or the environment or other issues.



This forum has changed, and I notice every time an old thread is revived, and I look at page one and start wondering 'where did they all go?'

Since I came back, I am likely checking in here mostly out of apathy and reluctance to go elsewhere, than anything else. Over the last couple of years, I haven't been happy with what I've seen in the forums that I signed up with. I would give up on forums entirely, if it wasn't for the fact that I have a lot of interests that nobody I know personally seems to find of interest or is interested in learning about.

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:48 pm
by Oscar Namechange
kazalala;1462033 wrote: Thanks for trying Gill I should have made clear i wasnt concerned if you mentioned my name.

You never know,, it could work in FG favour too,, some members from there may want to check out here ;)


That's really weird because I did wonder If It was you.

First of all Kaz, why not post here more now and then If It's for the better these days as Gill says? It'd be really good to see you as you were and are a valued member.

Sorry but I still believe the method used could open you up to anything and I wouldn't want that for you of all people.

I wish you every success with the new forum. I doubt I'll be able to join simply due to time restraints... But good luck Kaz and all the very best to you :-4

By the way... send me an extra life on Candy Crush will yer? :wah:

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:55 pm
by kazalala
Oscar Namechange;1462037 wrote: That's really weird because I did wonder If It was you.

First of all Kaz, why not post here more now and then If It's for the better these days as Gill says? It'd be really good to see you as you were and are a valued member.

Sorry but I still believe the method used could open you up to anything and I wouldn't want that for you of all people.

I wish you every success with the new forum. I doubt I'll be able to join simply due to time restraints... But good luck Kaz and all the very best to you :-4

By the way... send me an extra life on Candy Crush will yer? :wah:


We have been open to all sorts already Oscar:wah:hence a couple of bannings hence a downfall in political area which i feel sorry for the one bloke left who loved it and ended up with a load fo women disagreeing with him :wah: Anyway.. Its not MY forum and I am certainly not in charge:-3,,,, i have been posting there quite a while and was asked to help out admin,, there is a few other staff there as well.

I play the owl candy crush mainly now,, been stuck on same level on normal one for about a year now:yh_rotfl

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:38 pm
by Snooz
Oscar is right, someone like me might join your forum. THE HORROR!!!

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:49 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Snooz;1462059 wrote: Oscar is right, someone like me might join your forum. THE HORROR!!! You are an asset to any forum my little buttered crumpet.

I'd share a lightly boiled egg and soldiers with you any day.

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:53 pm
by Snooz
Are soldiers toast? I'd like some toast right now.

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:04 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Snooz;1462065 wrote: Are soldiers toast? I'd like some toast right now. I was just thinking the same thing here. mmmmmm toast

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:31 pm
by High Threshold
Oscar Namechange;1462064 wrote: You are an asset to any forum my little buttered crumpet.

I'd share a lightly boiled egg and soldiers with you any day.


Snooz;1462065 wrote: Are soldiers toast? I'd like some toast right now.


Oscar Namechange;1462066 wrote: I was just thinking the same thing here. mmmmmm toast


Stop tormenting me! :yh_drool:yh_drool:yh_drool

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:46 pm
by FG-administator
Snooz;1462059 wrote: Oscar is right, someone like me might join your forum. THE HORROR!!!


Hah. Been there, seen the car-crash.

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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:40 am
by FourPart
Snooz;1462065 wrote: Are soldiers toast? I'd like some toast right now.
Just in case you really didn't know what Soldiers are, in this instance (I can't always tell if something is meant to be sarcastic or not), they're a standard round of toast sliced into fish finger (fish sticks) sized pieces, making them the right size for dunking in your boiled egg.

Back on topic, though, personally I prefer a forum with a smaller membership. This enables you to get to know everyone's individual style & character, good & bad. In the bigger ones it's less than being a face in a crowd.

The last forum I was with used to be fine - about the same membership as here & very friendly. Then the Administration was handed over to someone else & things started to go downhill. It quickly became run by the Admin's sidekick, who pulled all the strings & once I got on her bad side by disagreeing with a couple of her posts, I ended up getting banned. I think most of you on here have, by now, got used to my style of posting & although I will always openly speak my mind, it's always courteously, with respect for others to have their opinions. To be honest, I don't even know who the admins are, which as I see it is a good thing. It shows that they're not dominating everything but, on the whole, letting everyone else keep things in order for themselves. Of course, once in a while opinions are so different that discussions can become fairly heated, but that that is the nature of a debating forum - not one where you are told what to think & say.

Just because someone uses one forum doesn't mean they desert another.

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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:59 am
by High Threshold
kazalala;1462038 wrote: We have been open to all sorts already Oscar hence a couple of bannings


Jones, twice?

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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:04 am
by Snowfire
FourPart;1462084 wrote: . To be honest, I don't even know who the admins are, which as I see it is a good thing.


Oh they're real ugly, mean people. Not the sort of people you could take home to meet yer Mum. A couple of us rounded them up a while ago and keep them locked away in a cupboard under the stairs. When its gets quiet here, you can sometimes hear them whimper.

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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:29 am
by kazalala
High Threshold;1462087 wrote: Jones, twice?


:wah:worse:sneaky::lips:

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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:52 am
by High Threshold
kazalala;1462097 wrote: :wah:worse:sneaky::lips:


Oh! I see you've had the pleasure. That's nice! :wah:

But surely, nothing can be worse than that?



Snowfire;1462096 wrote: Oh they're real ugly, mean people. Not the sort of people you could take home to meet yer Mum. A couple of us rounded them up a while ago and keep them locked away in a cupboard under the stairs. When its gets quiet here, you can sometimes hear them whimper.


You're a very naughty person, Snowfire!

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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:54 am
by Snooz
FG;1462072 wrote: Hah. Been there, seen the car-crash.


Ah, the peanut(head) gallery speaks!

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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:58 am
by Snowfire
High Threshold;1462099 wrote: You're a very naughty person, Snowfire!


OK then, I'll loosen the handcuffs off a notch but if I hear any mithering.....



mither (ˈmaɪðə)

vb

1. (intr) Northern English to fuss over or moan about something

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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:59 am
by High Threshold
Snowfire;1462101 wrote: OK then, I'll loosen the handcuffs off a notch but if I hear any mithering.....



mither (ˈmaɪðə)

vb

1. (intr) Northern English to fuss over or moan about something


I would have simply said "whinge".

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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:20 am
by kazalala
High Threshold;1462099 wrote: Oh! I see you've had the pleasure. That's nice! :wah:

But surely, nothing can be worse than that?








he even wrote a poem for me dontcha know ;) long long long ago

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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:34 am
by High Threshold
kazalala;1462103 wrote: he even wrote a poem for me dontcha know ;) long long long ago


He's a troubled boy. I hope he didn't write anything too suggestive. He's prone to that.

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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:08 am
by kazalala
High Threshold;1462104 wrote: He's a troubled boy. I hope he didn't write anything too suggestive. He's prone to that.


Not that I remember,,, i did have it in a journal here but i think i had my journal deleted.

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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:34 am
by Betty Boop
whimper whimper...

Another notch please Snowfire, and a snack would be good, fed up of gruel now!

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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:09 am
by High Threshold
kazalala;1462109 wrote: ... i did have it ... but i think i had my journal deleted.


I'm sure it was the best thing to do.

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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:54 am
by High Threshold
G#Gill;1461991 wrote: I've just been approached by somebody who knows that I post in Forum Garden from time to time. Although they used to be a member here, they very rarely visit FG. now.

They have asked me to post about another site that wants to increase the number of members who enjoy debating and discussing any subject. You wouldn't have to forsake your membership on here, just pop in to this other site from time to time and enjoy debating etc. with other like-minded posters ! The site link is Board For Us

Maybe some of you may have heard of it already. I know you would be made very welcome by existing members on that site, and quickly accepted as a friend. Give it a try, you don't have to totally commit yourself and you can come and go as you wish, of course.


I've had a bit of a look-see at "Bored For Us", not enough to get the full scope but enough to get a very bitter taste in my mouth. It could be that I just happened to focus in on a rogue but the experience was NOT GOOD. If that fellow represents even a small percentage of that lot then I don't suggest that you get stuck into it yourself, Gill.

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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:52 am
by High Threshold
kazalala;1462030 wrote: ..... I was talking to Gill about another forum I am now admin on ( not TPV Oscar) .....


I've only seen a small sample of his work and I find David Icke to be interesting but unpolished.

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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:08 am
by kazalala
High Threshold;1462371 wrote: I've only seen a small sample of his work and I find David Icke to be interesting but unpolished.


You will have to clue me in here :-3 also not sure who you are talking about in "that fellow" :-2 i have been off to my little van for a couple of days and so i may have missed something:thinking:

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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:20 am
by kazalala
oh I think i know who you are referring to now:wah: yea he posts there same as anyone who joins does as long as they stay within the TOC. Same as here really. I get frustrated myself with him at times,, as he knows, but he does have other sides to him apart from fanitic political :wah: He "represents" the board as much as Jones represents this board :wah: As i said its quite diverse,, tbh I always thought it was much like this place .. but hey ho each to their own. :D

Gill already knows its not the type of board for her, but thank you for popping in and giving it a try. :)

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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:20 am
by High Threshold
kazalala;1462382 wrote: You will have to clue me in here


David Icke and TPV.



kazalala;1462382 wrote: also not sure who you are talking about in "that fellow"


That fellow over on the Bored For Us forum who thinks the unemployed ought to receive a maximum 6 months assistance and then turn them out into the street with nothing.