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Why Scottish can have a referendum but East Ukrainians got a shelling?
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:47 pm
by katsung47
Why Scottish can have a referendum but East Ukrainians got a shelling?
East Ukrainians have more reason to seek independence because they speak Russian while Scottish speak the same language as British do.
Why Scottish can have a referendum but East Ukrainians got a shelling?
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:20 pm
by FourPart
katsung47;1465254 wrote: Why Scottish can have a referendum but East Ukrainians got a shelling?
Because Ukraine was invaded.
East Ukrainians have more reason to seek independence because they speak Russian while Scottish speak the same language as British do.
Language has nothing to do with it. If it were, then Wales would have been the ones to have had a referendum.
As to the Scottish speaking the same language... Well, that's questionable.
Why Scottish can have a referendum but East Ukrainians got a shelling?
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:23 am
by AnneBoleyn
Ukraine has a separate, but similar language to Russia. Both groups tell me the Ukraines can understand & speak pure Russian, but not vice-versa.
Why Scottish can have a referendum but East Ukrainians got a shelling?
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:56 pm
by LarsMac
Nobody in Eastern Ukraine ever demanded a referendum to secede from Ukraine. If they wanted to stay a part of Russia, the time to have had that discussion was after the dissolution of the Soviet.
Why Scottish can have a referendum but East Ukrainians got a shelling?
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:27 pm
by katsung47
Because in so said democratic country, the ruling class control the intelligence and media. They could rig the voting result to get whatever they want and justify it with various reasons because they control the media. That’s what happened in Scotland referendum.
In East Ukraine, they are not able to do so. So they show their real face – to suppress by force.
Scottish referendum vote-rigging claims spark calls for recount
Tens of thousands sign petitions wanting recount or fresh vote based on videos that purport to show evidence of electoral fraud.
Esther Addley
The Guardian, Monday 22 September 2014
Scottish referendum vote-rigging claims spark calls for recount | Politics | The Guardian
Why Scottish can have a referendum but East Ukrainians got a shelling?
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:01 pm
by FourPart
I reckon we need to have a referendum on whether we should have a referendum or not. Now!!
Or should we have a referendum on whether or not we should have a referendum on whether we should have a referendum or not on whether we should have a referendum or not.
et al.
Why Scottish can have a referendum but East Ukrainians got a shelling?
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:52 pm
by katsung47
LarsMac;1465312 wrote: Nobody in Eastern Ukraine ever demanded a referendum to secede from Ukraine.
It doesn't make sense. Nobody demanded a referendum but a lot of people rose with arms to resist the government? I'm afraid they were not given the chance.
LarsMac;1465312 wrote: If they wanted to stay a part of Russia, the time to have had that discussion was after the dissolution of the Soviet.
Can you apply the same logic to Scotland that why they joined the U.K.? Condition changes after time changing.
Why Scottish can have a referendum but East Ukrainians got a shelling?
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:15 pm
by LarsMac
katsung47;1466568 wrote: It doesn't make sense. Nobody demanded a referendum but a lot of people rose with arms to resist the government? I'm afraid they were not given the chance.
Can you apply the same logic to Scotland that why they joined the U.K.? Condition changes after time changing.
You should study more history.