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Sierra Leone

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:24 pm
by theia
I was just watching a very sad report on the news about a little 3 year old girl who was a suspected Ebola victim. The other families in the village are now concerned about their children who played with the little girl. It made me realise what these families are going through, it's so tragic.

Sierra Leone

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:27 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Of course, there Is an Irony here.

Had, the West not robbed the third world of It's medical elite for our NHS, there would be more trained teams In place right where It's needed Instead of relying on the West to send out Medics.

Sierra Leone

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:27 pm
by FourPart
Oscar Namechange;1466565 wrote: Of course, there Is an Irony here.

Had, the West not robbed the third world of It's medical elite for our NHS, there would be more trained teams In place right where It's needed Instead of relying on the West to send out Medics.
And where do you think this medical elite got their training?

Sierra Leone

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:20 am
by Bryn Mawr
Oscar Namechange;1466565 wrote: Of course, there Is an Irony here.

Had, the West not robbed the third world of It's medical elite for our NHS, there would be more trained teams In place right where It's needed Instead of relying on the West to send out Medics.


How many nurses trained in West Africa do you imagine there are in the NHS?

Sierra Leone

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:11 am
by Oscar Namechange
The prestigious journal, British Medical Journal (BMJ) sums up another aspect of the “brain drain problem in the title of an article: “Developed world is robbing African countries of health staff (Rebecca Coombes, BMJ, Volume 230, p.923, April 23, 2005.) This, Coombes notes, is because rich countries are also hiring medical staff from abroad, because they are far cheaper. (Many health systems in the first world are under budgetary pressures.) In a way, this becomes a form of subsidy for the rich!

Brain Drain of Workers from Poor to Rich Countries — Global Issues

"The Great Brain Robbery: Education Has Long Been Seen as One of the Key Strategies for Reducing Poverty in the Developing World. but Skills Shortages in the West Have Led to Increasing Numbers of Tertiary-Educated Workers Being Lured Away from Their

Sierra Leone

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:27 am
by Oscar Namechange
Western countries have undermined the fight against ebola by recruiting doctors and nurses from west Africa, leaving some areas with inadequate health expertise, charities have warned.

West ‘has drained ebola-hit countries of medical staff’ | The Times

Sierra Leone

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:18 am
by FourPart
I think you'll find, though, that the majority of them came over here to train in medicine & then chose to stay. Not quite the same thing.

Sierra Leone

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:35 am
by Oscar Namechange
FourPart;1466600 wrote: I think you'll find, though, that the majority of them came over here to train in medicine & then chose to stay. Not quite the same thing.


Every country Including third world, has some kind of medical training facilities. Maybe not as good as the West but all the same they do. It's fair to say that countries such as SL don't have the same amount of trained medics as we do but the fact Is, In the past, we have taken those small numbers of trained medics leaving them without their own to deal with situations like this.

Sierra Leone

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:39 am
by Bruv
People, even ethnics, train and then go for the best wages plus best opportunities for them and their families.

It is called economics

Sierra Leone

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:30 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Bruv;1466610 wrote: People, even ethnics, train and then go for the best wages plus best opportunities for them and their families.

It is called economics


It's called depleting third world countries of trained medics to exploit their existing qualifications to prop up the NHS

Sierra Leone

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:02 pm
by Bruv
Oscar Namechange;1466612 wrote: It's called depleting third world countries of trained medics to exploit their existing qualifications to prop up the NHS


Let us restrict immigration then.........oh yes sorry.....playing into your hands again...damn.

Sierra Leone

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:15 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Bruv;1466614 wrote: Let us restrict immigration then.........oh yes sorry.....playing into your hands again...damn. Nothing wrong with Immigration.

Immigration that Is beneficial to the country for both parties...

Sorry... did I just NOT play Into your hands again ?

Sierra Leone

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:45 pm
by FourPart
It's terrible that we are depleting Poland of all it's skilled Plumbers & Care Workers.

Sierra Leone

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:57 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Tell you what... our Turkish pal and his brothers who have chains of take-aways, always go for Polish and Lithuanian workers over Turkish... They don't half work hard.

Sierra Leone

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:01 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Anyway.... let's get back to Theia's OP and how the children are suffering.

Sierra Leone

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:01 pm
by FourPart
Exactly - we're stealing all Poland's hard working workforce.

Sierra Leone

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:19 pm
by theia
Oscar Namechange;1466619 wrote: Anyway.... let's get back to Theia's OP and how the children are suffering.


Thank you, Oscar. My OP was addressing the impact of Ebola on people and the terrible losses that families in Sierra Leone are facing.

Another news report last night on the large numbers of orphans created by Ebola deaths. A little 10 year old boy talking about the problems he had looking after his 3 and 5 year old siblings after the death of his parents. Heartbreaking.

Sierra Leone

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:32 am
by Bruv
Oscar Namechange;1466565 wrote: Of course, there Is an Irony here.

Had, the West not robbed the third world of It's medical elite for our NHS, there would be more trained teams In place right where It's needed Instead of relying on the West to send out Medics.


Sorry Theia.

Tragedies always throw up tragic tales, out of interest did you know that Sierra Leone has only relatively recently ended a horrific civil war when 10's of thousands died ?

It had passed me by, don't think it was paid much attention in the media. Life expectancy there is a mere 48 for men and 49 for women.

For me the biggest concern is why the ebola makes the country headline news when the facts I have just mentioned don't, the answer of course is ebola might eventually affect us here where as dieing at 48 after a poverty stricken life matters a lot less.

Sierra Leone

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:41 am
by theia
Bruv;1466631 wrote: Sorry Theia.

Tragedies always throw up tragic tales, out of interest did you know that Sierra Leone has only relatively recently ended a horrific civil war when 10's of thousands died ?

It had passed me by, don't think it was paid much attention in the media. Life expectancy there is a mere 48 for men and 49 for women.

For me the biggest concern is why the ebola makes the country headline news when the facts I have just mentioned don't, the answer of course is ebola might eventually affect us here where as dieing at 48 after a poverty stricken life matters a lot less.


No, Bruv, I knew nothing about the civil war nor the life expectancy. And, yes, I think you're right with your last point.

I know that the media manipulates us with what it chooses to show.

Isn't it all rather disheartening?

Sierra Leone

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:39 am
by Bruv
theia;1466660 wrote: Isn't it all rather disheartening?


If you look deeper the country has a wealth of natural resources, including diamonds.

I suspect the country never got it's act together following independence, relying on foreign companies to harvest the countries riches , and trusting them to play properly.

Sierra Leone

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:19 am
by AnneBoleyn
Bruv;1466664 wrote: If you look deeper the country has a wealth of natural resources, including diamonds.

I suspect the country never got it's act together following independence, relying on foreign companies to harvest the countries riches, and trusting them to play properly.


No. A few countrymen overly enriched themselves, government & army people, & they didn't give a damn about the rest of the country.

Sierra Leone

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:38 am
by Bruv
AnneBoleyn;1466690 wrote: No. A few countrymen overly enriched themselves, government & army people, & they didn't give a damn about the rest of the country.


Yes that too.

But the Banking and colonial companies are in place and, as big business does in the more sophisticated and savvy western world, they fight to keep their foothold, threatening and cajoling governments who are afraid to lose their expertise, greased palms all round.