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They can't find anything to hang this guy for so they are going after the whole city now. Justice Department: No Darren Wilson charges - CNN.com

The story about how skewed the numbers are is just horrifying until you look at the actual population stats.

I'll will give them the jaywalking anomaly... the police should be forced to crawl backwards across the street to apologise for that item. That is exactly the type of thing that would make ANY group feel unjustly persecuted.

They need to couch these revelations in the statistics behind them.

This should, (hopefully) put it to rest: Key findings in the DOJ report on Darren Wilson

Evidence? Facts? Official Reports? You really think that will put an end to the claims of it being an unprovoked murder of a 'good boy', just because he was black?

Remember the old adage - "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story". After all, they all need a good excuse to go looting their neighbourhood stores.

Its always amazing to listen to white people discussing the black experience. You always think you are listening to a different language. It's like allowing a white person to write a black history book, you just get a different story. A black teen gets killed by a white officer , the teen was obviously a law breaker, and he resisted arrest, and got killed for it. Now the feds uncover a city wide abuse of blacks in other areas, and whites are discussing it as if it does not exist?

Just two whole different worlds; two totally differing experiences; two opposite ways of being; two different consciousness; two different views.

Having to exist in the same space.

I totally agree with your assessment Mickiel.

Whenever I have lived in an area devoid of black people, I get nervous. Just doesn't feel right to me. I like diversity, it brings about a more progressive environment.

And yes, black people are treated differently, with more suspicion. I have witnessed it.

It may sound Racist to say it, but the suspicions are well founded. There is a much higher Crime Rate among Blacks than there are among Whites and that isn't a matter of the Blacks being Racially targeted.

There are complaints that in a region wihch is primarily black the vast majority of the Police Force are White. O.K., so look to the other side of the coin. What proportion of Blacks applied to join the Police? Statistically speaking the number of applicants should greatly outnumber those of the White applicants, but somehow I doubt this is the case.

FourPart;1475584 wrote: It may sound Racist to say it, but the suspicions are well founded. There is a much higher Crime Rate among Blacks than there are among Whites and that isn't a matter of the Blacks being Racially targeted.

There are complaints that in a region wihch is primarily black the vast majority of the Police Force are White. O.K., so look to the other side of the coin. What proportion of Blacks applied to join the Police? Statistically speaking the number of applicants should greatly outnumber those of the White applicants, but somehow I doubt this is the case.




I am curious about something, explain to me why you even think it " May sound racist?"

So that I can better understand how you feel about this.

AnneBoleyn;1475560 wrote: I totally agree with your assessment Mickiel.

Whenever I have lived in an area devoid of black people, I get nervous. Just doesn't feel right to me. I like diversity, it brings about a more progressive environment.

And yes, black people are treated differently, with more suspicion. I have witnessed it.




Crime in America is interesting, if we look at official stats; here they are;

FBI — Table 43

Its really not a black or white thing; its a human thing.

Mickiel;1475594 wrote: I am curious about something, explain to me why you even think it " May sound racist?"

So that I can better understand how you feel about this.
Put quite simply, when the question of race is raised, if it doesn't favour non-whites, more often than not the race card is played & the cry of racism goes up.



Crime in America is interesting, if we look at official stats; here they are;

FBI — Table 43

Its really not a black or white thing; its a human thing.


Interesting reading, indeed. I just have difficulty in accepting the veracity of the report, although if it were to be placed along with national proportions of per capita racial origin it might be a little more believeable. The figures, according to the FBI state that the ratio is about 3:1 White:Black. Is this the same ratio for the population's racial origin? If it is a 'human thing', then it should be.

I see nothing wrong with peeling back more layers to examine a problem. I imagine individuals and organizations with someting to hide would object.

tude dog;1475553 wrote: Any dark closets in your house where you can go rub it out? We can get right wing talking points anywhere. Try something authentic once in a while.

FourPart;1475596 wrote: Put quite simply, when the question of race is raised, if it doesn't favour non-whites, more often than not the race card is played & the cry of racism goes up.

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I am still curious, do you see anything that the city has done wrong?

Mickiel;1475610 wrote: I am still curious, do you see anything that the city has done wrong?
I am talking in general.

What I find more curious is that this is an everyday occurence in the US, what with its Gun Culture, et al. Why then, has so much fuss been made about one tiny little town with one Black Youth, who was unquestionably the guilty party of an armed robbery being shot down by a Police Officer (who just happened to be white) in the execution of his duty? If it had been shoen to be a case of mistaken identity, and that he hadn't been the robber after all, then there might be a case to answer for, but this was all cut & dried.

The point is that because the youth was Black, in a predominently Black area, and the Officer was White, in a profession that is predominently White, then the Race Card automatically gets played. There is no reason for the Race Card to be played, but it makes for good news for the Tabloids, as well as giving a the locals a good opportunity to loot a few new TV sets.

Something you might not understand, FourPart. Generally, a white kid doing the same thing would not be shot Dead. Generally, black kids are more likely to be arrested than white kids doing the same things. Generally, the black kid will serve time & the white kid won't. Generally, sentences for the same crime is longer, more harsh, for a black kid. This makes black people pissed off, & why shouldn't it?

FourPart;1475612 wrote: I am talking in general.

What I find more curious is that this is an everyday occurence in the US, what with its Gun Culture, et al. Why then, has so much fuss been made about one tiny little town with one Black Youth, who was unquestionably the guilty party of an armed robbery being shot down by a Police Officer (who just happened to be white) in the execution of his duty? If it had been shoen to be a case of mistaken identity, and that he hadn't been the robber after all, then there might be a case to answer for, but this was all cut & dried.

The point is that because the youth was Black, in a predominently Black area, and the Officer was White, in a profession that is predominently White, then the Race Card automatically gets played. There is no reason for the Race Card to be played, but it makes for good news for the Tabloids, as well as giving a the locals a good opportunity to loot a few new TV sets.




So when should the race card be played?

There is serious history behind ferguson, not a race card, but a historical dynamic reaped in blood. Whites call it a race card, blacks call it history. The race card is what whites think that blacks will use to excuse their behavior, but black behavior is historically tied to white behavior. Whites took America from the Indians, and now began a history of bringing in all other races to their prize.

Fast forward to now, blacks rebelling against white authority, whites comparing black behavior to a race card, whites already doing what they accuse blacks of doing, but because blacks are now doing it, then white behavior is excused from doing it. Now it does not matter if blacks are innocent or guilty, they are playing a race card against the whites. The innocent are marked, the guilty are marked, and white skin is still seen as the holy example of being untouchable in it all.

And it started it all.

FourPart;1475612 wrote: I am talking in general.

What I find more curious is that this is an everyday occurence in the US, what with its Gun Culture, et al. Why then, has so much fuss been made about one tiny little town with one Black Youth, who was unquestionably the guilty party of an armed robbery being shot down by a Police Officer (who just happened to be white) in the execution of his duty? If it had been shoen to be a case of mistaken identity, and that he hadn't been the robber after all, then there might be a case to answer for, but this was all cut & dried.

The point is that because the youth was Black, in a predominently Black area, and the Officer was White, in a profession that is predominently White, then the Race Card automatically gets played. There is no reason for the Race Card to be played, but it makes for good news for the Tabloids, as well as giving a the locals a good opportunity to loot a few new TV sets.


I only want to point out that it was not an armed robbery, and it was not "cut and dry"

And we still have the ideal of innocent until proven guilty. The officer only knew that the two men appeared to match the description of the two in the great cigar heist.

The prevailing attitude in Ferguson was fueled by the the ongoing behavior by the police department.

Fact: Police are often too quick to shoot, and too often blacks and Hispanics are the ones being shot, while a white kid doing the same kind of thing just gets his hand slapped.

And it really does not necessarily matter whether the officers doing the shooting are white, black, hispanic or otherwise.

It's not even about Michael Brown or Darren Wilson, anymore. I doubt it really ever was.

I expect that every cop in the street of Ferguson feels it is open season on them. It's time for the protestors to move on the the next event they can exploit, IMO.

AG Holder calls officer shootings a 'heinous assault' | MSNBC

I sometimes think the best thing to do would be to cordon off the whole region, enforce boundaries, pull the police out entirely & leave it to their own mob rule.

Can't wait to see all the outrage that is sure to be expressed about this thug.. can you?:sneaky:

Ferguson Police: Public info led to arrest of man in shootings of two officers - CNN.com

flopstock;1476002 wrote: Can't wait to see all the outrage that is sure to be expressed about this thug.. can you?:sneaky:

Ferguson Police: Public info led to arrest of man in shootings of two officers - CNN.com


I can wait.

He should be stuck on a room somewhere and ignored for a few years