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And this means what?
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Ahso!;1489539 wrote: And this means what?


You will have to trace it back your argumentative self my good man, to the relevant instance to which you referred........ but at least the Paris thread is safe from your pettiness.
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Bruv;1489542 wrote: You will have to trace it back your argumentative self my good man, to the relevant instance to which you referred........ but at least the Paris thread is safe from your pettiness.My pettiness? It was your accusation.

You apparently disagree with some things I've posted and instead of engaging me on them you go and call me an arrogant know-it-all in a thread. Show me where you disagree with me (I mean, where I'm being an arrogant know-it-all) and show me where what I post is lacking coherence by proving it.

I realize, like the majority of members here, you prefer to think you're so philosophical about everything by not committing to any opinion. You're scared, and that's a pity, and it's because you don't know what it is you think so you can't articulate it.

Discussion forums are for presenting one's opinions and then establishing them through objective evidence. Writing posts like "so what do we do" instead of "here's what I've learned through research and thought" is avoiding real dialogue and a pretense of intellectual understanding.

As for me, before you go get another youtube video or comedy sketch to try to define me, I'm not very good at this stuff either, but I do try, and I am better at it today than I was yesterday.
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Ahso!;1489543 wrote: You apparently disagree with some things I've posted and instead of engaging me on them you go and call me an arrogant know-it-all in a thread. Show me where you disagree with me (I mean, where I'm being an arrogant know-it-all) and show me where what I post is lacking coherence by proving it.

I realize, like the majority of members here, you prefer to think you're so philosophical about everything by not committing to any opinion. You're scared, and that's a pity, and it's because you don't know what it is you think so you can't articulate it.


I invite you to read your participation in this thread, don't know if you actually mention the topic, at the point I enter you haven't done so.

Your first comment arrogantly attacks Americans in general.

Tude is arrogantly attacked.........before he has posted.......and after.

You even arrogantly postulate Spot and yourself are working together to "draw them in"...................did you co-author the thread ?

And it goes on and on, and not only in that thread, it is not pleasant or productive................or endearing...............and that is why I said what I said.

What is the reason for your contribution ?
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Bruv;1489564 wrote: I invite you to read your participation in this thread, don't know if you actually mention the topic at the point I enter you haven't done so.Neither has anyone else addressed the topic really. All that's posted to that point is:

1) an accusation of ranting (Anne), to which I then encourage spot to just carry on;

2) conspiracy theory accusation (Lars), to which I kid because Lars considers himself a patriot and I had forgotten about him as such to that point;

3) A direct personal attack on spot (Lars), which I chose to ignore to allow spot to address if he so chose to, which he didn't;

4) I then notice TD is replying and say so adding that I thought it would be entertaining because of his history of saying absolutely nothing of substance usually. He does in fact do that again by posting a completely irrelevant video (something the two of you have in common);

5) you join in then without addressing the topic but instead criticizing spot's posting style (a tactic you often use with many posts from any number of members you have a hair up your ass about)

6) Next is Lars' chide toward me;

7)Then Anne expresses resentment at me for something that has absolutely nothing to do with her;

8) I advise Anne her accusations at spot are inappropriate and unfounded;

9) And finally to wrap it up, Lars, you, Anne, and Smaug turn all your guns on me.

Have I missed anything, Bruv?

Bruv;1489564 wrote: Your first comment arrogantly attacks Americans in general.Wrong. That comment was a reference to former members such as Clint, Jester, Accusable, Snooze and the rest.

Bruv;1489564 wrote: Tude is arrogantly attacked.........before he has posted.......and after.Already addressed this above

Bruv;1489564 wrote: You even arrogantly postulate Spot and yourself are working together to "draw them in"I was joking. Only morons would miss that.Bruv;1489564 wrote: ...................did you co-author the thread ?Oh Bruv, you should find a dark room and go rub it out and get some relief.

Bruv;1489564 wrote: And it goes on and on, and not only in that thread, it is not pleasant or productive................or endearing...............and that is why I said what I said.And it's mostly you three or five needing some relief. Get over yourself.
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Ahso!;1489566 wrote: Neither has anyone else addressed the topic really. All that's posted to that point is:

1) an accusation of ranting (Anne), to which I then encourage spot to just carry on;

2) conspiracy theory accusation (Lars), to which I kid because Lars considers himself a patriot and I had forgotten about him as such to that point;

3) A direct personal attack on spot (Lars), which I chose to ignore to allow spot to address if he so chose to, which he didn't;

4) I then notice TD is replying and say so adding that I thought it would be entertaining because of his history of saying absolutely nothing of substance usually. He does in fact do that again by posting a completely irrelevant video (something the two of you have in common);

5) you join in then without addressing the topic but instead criticizing spot's posting style (a tactic you often use with many posts from any number of members you have a hair up your ass about)

6) Next is Lars' chide toward me;

7)Then Anne expresses resentment at me for something that has absolutely nothing to do with her;

8) I advise Anne her accusations at spot are inappropriate and unfounded;

9) And finally to wrap it up, Lars, you, Anne, and Smaug turn all your guns on me.

Have I missed anything, Bruv?

Wrong. That comment was a reference to former members such as Clint, Jester, Accusable, Snooze and the rest.

Already addressed this above

I was joking. Only morons would miss that.Oh Bruv, you should find a dark room and go rub it out and get some relief.

And it's mostly you three or five needing some relief. Get over yourself.


I will be honest.............as always......I HAVE NOT READ THE ABOVE POST YET.......... But this sort of proves exactly what the argument video was all about, you can talk/argue the hind leg off a donkey........as your famous Mark Twain said “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.

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LarsMac;1489572 wrote: Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we are out to get you.I know you're not, you're not capable of it. But what the three of you do is follow each other around and bounce posts of each others. It's kind of comic to watch. Even TD shows more sophistication than you three. Well done!
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Bruv;1489573 wrote: I will be honest.............as always......I HAVE NOT READ THE ABOVE POST YET.......... But this sort of proves exactly what the argument video was all about, you can talk/argue the hind leg off a donkey........as your famous Mark Twain said “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.

I am walking away...................you carry on..............alone.Of course you'll walk away. You asked me to look at the thread, which I did. I then sorted it out for you. You've got nothing to say because you're guilty as charged, as are your two other consciously blind mice twins.

You don't need to post comedy sketches, Bruv, because you're one all by yourself.
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Ahso!;1489588 wrote: Of course you'll walk away. You asked me to look at the thread, which I did. I then sorted it out for you. You've got nothing to say because you're guilty as charged, as are your two other consciously blind mice twins.

You don't need to post comedy sketches, Bruv, because you're one all by yourself.


I rest my case.......................
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Ahso!;1489585 wrote: I know you're not, you're not capable of it. But what the three of you do is follow each other around and bounce posts of each others. It's kind of comic to watch. Even TD shows more sophistication than you three. Well done!


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Bruv;1489591 wrote: I rest my case.......................Of course you do. You never had one. Who is it you're trying to convince, Bruv? Nobody gives a damn, as LM says. You're only pissing at me but your problem is you're pissing at me against the wind. You're soaked with your own urine. Go leave and stay out, ffs.
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LarsMac;1489594 wrote: I think it was Woody Allen who said, "Don't take yourself too seriously. Nobody else does."There's one of your favorite fallback positions (the other one being about being here to just have some fun) when you're caught. Seriously, Dude?
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And finally to wrap it up, Lars, you, Anne, and Smaug turn all your guns on me.

Well, what did you expect when you were busy 'kicking sand in everyone's supper', as Lars put it? I certainly don't enjoy 'having a go' at someone for no reason, though there are those that do. And they're usually the ones that carp and moan when 'taken to task' for it.

You can't deny that you can be rather offensive, blunt and provocative with people when the mood takes you, Ahso! That being the case, you can't complain when those same people retaliate....

There's an old saying; "It takes ONE to make a war, but TWO to make a friendship"....

I tend to treat people as I'm treated, unless I see someone being bullied or 'trolled', and as I can't stand bullies OR trolls, that's when I usually get involved. Maybe you could try being a little nicer to folk, and less profligate with the abbreviated profanities?

Just a few suggestions.
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Ahso!;1489597 wrote: There's one of your favorite fallback positions (the other one being about being here to just have some fun) when you're caught. Seriously, Dude?
Seriously. You think far too highly of yourself, I fear, and far too little of everyone else.

I used to think that you were a person of remarkable intellect and wit, but you seem hard pressed to prove me wrong.
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Smaug;1489604 wrote: And finally to wrap it up, Lars, you, Anne, and Smaug turn all your guns on me.

Well, what did you expect when you were busy 'kicking sand in everyone's supper', as Lars put it? I certainly don't enjoy 'having a go' at someone for no reason, though there are those that do. And they're usually the ones that carp and moan when 'taken to task' for it.

You can't deny that you can be rather offensive, blunt and provocative with people when the mood takes you, Ahso! That being the case, you can't complain when those same people retaliate....

There's an old saying; "It takes ONE to make a war, but TWO to make a friendship"....

I tend to treat people as I'm treated, unless I see someone being bullied or 'trolled', and as I can't stand bullies OR trolls, that's when I usually get involved. Maybe you could try being a little nicer to folk, and less profligate with the abbreviated profanities?

Just a few suggestions.No, no! I'm not complaining, I thought it was all very amusing. My reason for saying what I said was to clearly relate the episode as it unfolded. Of course nobody is disputing anything as I related it. They can't. The three of them had one intention in that thread and that was to harass the op. They have no case of being on topic. The thing is though, they do this so often that they can't see it, that's how normal it's become.
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Ahso!;1489608 wrote: No, no! I'm not complaining, I thought it was all very amusing. My reason for saying what I said was to clearly relate the episode as it unfolded. Of course nobody is disputing anything as I related it. They can't. The three of them had one intention in that thread and that was to harass the op. They have no case of being on topic. The thing is though, they do this so often that they can't see it, that's how normal it's become.


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LarsMac;1489606 wrote: Seriously. You think far too highly of yourself, I fear, and far too little of everyone else.

I used to think that you were a person of remarkable intellect and wit, but you seem hard pressed to prove me wrong.I'm crushed. In fact, anyone who knows me knows all too well that I don't think that highly of myself at all. I realize I'm only one member of a species who is no more important in life than an ant.

Perhaps you're projecting. And your feeling are hurt. You'll get over it. But please whatever you do, don't think of me as anything other than a slightly sophisticated monkey. And only very slightly at that.
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Ahso!;1489608 wrote: No, no! I'm not complaining, I thought it was all very amusing. My reason for saying what I said was to clearly relate the episode as it unfolded. Of course nobody is disputing anything as I related it. They can't. The three of them had one intention in that thread and that was to harass the op. They have no case of being on topic. The thing is though, they do this so often that they can't see it, that's how normal it's become.


If there's one thing I've noticed on FG, it's that threads sometimes do go 'off-topic' quite quickly as the conversation wends it's way through any number of side issues, and various witty comments. It usually comes back 'on topic' if someone tactfully points out that the thread has diverged for long enough now.

Tact. 'Manners maketh man' is another old saying worth a mention, as is 'Reaping what you sow'....
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Smaug;1489612 wrote: If there's one thing I've noticed on FG, it's that threads sometimes do go 'off-topic' quite quickly as the conversation wends it's way through any number of side issues, and various witty comments. It usually comes back 'on topic' if someone tactfully points out that the thread has diverged for long enough now.

Tact. 'Manners maketh man' is another old saying worth a mention, as is 'Reaping what you sow'....That thread never was on topic. Go look. What you'll see toward the end is a couple of token posts in an attempt to disguise intent.
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Ahso!;1489621 wrote: That thread never was on topic. Go look. What you'll see toward the end is a couple of token posts in an attempt to disguise intent.


Which thread was it Ahso?
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Smaug;1489623 wrote: Which thread was it Ahso?


Take a look Smaug HERE

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Bruv;1489626 wrote: Take a look Smaug HERE

Pig wrestling comes to mind..................doh......sucked in again.


Thanks Bruv. Seems like Ahso was having his pennyworth too...Just lay it out like there's participation, spot. You're not going to get any feedback as all the American patriots have left.

Seems to me that Ahso didn't like Spot's comment about ISIS being a tool of US foreign policy. I would say that ISIS is partly a result of WESTERN policy, rather than blaming it wholly on the US. Britain has been involved 'up to it's armpits' in aggressive foreign policy too, so no 'high ground' can be taken on this by us in the UK. Everyone has their own opinion on this subject; Anne disagreed with Spot, which she's entitled to do. Lars didn't seem to like Spot's post either. Can't say as I blame either of them. I also had a dig at Ahso because of his cocky attitude ( the billy goats quip). Ahso can't complain though; he was a major contributor! And also 'off topic' as badly as everyone else!!

As far as I can see, Spot is big enough to look after his own interests without Ahso's help. If someone makes a public post then they must expect feedback, whether positive OR negative. Thanks again for the link, Bruv.
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Smaug;1489631 wrote: Thanks Bruv. Seems like Ahso was having his pennyworth too...Just lay it out like there's participation, spot. You're not going to get any feedback as all the American patriots have left.

Seems to me that Ahso didn't like Spot's comment about ISIS being a tool of US foreign policy. I would say that ISIS is partly a result of WESTERN policy, rather than blaming it wholly on the US. Britain has been involved 'up to it's armpits' in aggressive foreign policy too, so no 'high ground' can be taken on this by us in the UK. Everyone has their own opinion on this subject; Anne disagreed with Spot, which she's entitled to do. Lars didn't seem to like Spot's post either. Can't say as I blame either of them. I also had a dig at Ahso because of his cocky attitude ( the billy goats quip). Ahso can't complain though; he was a major contributor! And also 'off topic' as badly as everyone else!!

As far as I can see, Spot is big enough to look after his own interests without Ahso's help. If someone makes a public post then they must expect feedback, whether positive OR negative. Thanks again for the link, Bruv.You sure do know how to misinterpret.
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Ahso!;1489636 wrote: You sure do know how to misinterpret.


Utter tosh, Ahso! Still, why did I expect any different from you? I've read the post thoroughly now, so don't come with that 'misinterpret' swerve. Everyone had their say on various aspects; why should you have a monopoly on who can say what? Get a grip!
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Smaug;1489641 wrote: Utter tosh, Ahso! Still, why did I expect any different from you? I've read the post thoroughly now, so don't come with that 'misinterpret' swerve. Everyone had their say on various aspects; why should you have a monopoly on who can say what? Get a grip!Are you a sock puppet of Oscar?
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Ahso!;1489642 wrote: Are you a sock puppet of Oscar?I wouldn't be surprised if you were.
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Ahso!;1489642 wrote: Are you a sock puppet of Oscar?


Here, have another billy goat and 'pipe down', troll!
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Smaug;1489645 wrote: Here, have another billy goat and 'pipe down', troll!Okay, Oscar.
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Smaug;1489631 wrote: Seems to me that Ahso didn't like Spot's comment about ISIS being a tool of US foreign policy.


Ahso!;1489636 wrote: You sure do know how to misinterpret.


ALERT....SHOCK HORROR..........Bruv agrees with Ahso, he was actually backing Spot........in this instance, and most others.................as it happens.
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Ahso!;1489648 wrote: Okay, Oscar.I can't imagine you've gotten past spot, so he and Bryn must be okay with you using a sock puppet.
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Bruv;1489649 wrote: ALERT....SHOCK HORROR..........Bruv agrees with Ahso, he was actually backing Spot........in this instance, and most others.................as it happens.Now there's some honesty. Thank you, Bruv.
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Ahso!;1489651 wrote: Now there's some honesty. Thank you, Bruv.


Just lay it out like there's participation, spot. You're not going to get any feedback as all the American patriots have left.

So what exactly did you men by it then? :confused: Or are you saying that the US is pretty screwed up? If that's the case, I've indeed got the 'wrong end of the stick' as regards your comment.
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I endeavor to be genuine and honest at all times, it stops me becoming bitter and twisted...............any inferences are your own.
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Bruv;1489654 wrote: I endeavor to be genuine and honest at all times, it stops me becoming bitter and twisted...............any inferences are your own.


Same as, though I must confess to a certain bitterness at the antics of our incompetent political 'elite'....
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Smaug;1489653 wrote: Just lay it out like there's participation, spot. You're not going to get any feedback as all the American patriots have left.

So what exactly did you men by it then? :confused:


He is agreeing with his forum hero Spot's famous anti American foreign policy stance, the 'like there's participation' part insulting his countrymen for their reluctance to engage with Spot yet again.

But perhaps I have that wrong........Ahso will let you know if it's different........just for the hell of it.
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Bruv;1489656 wrote: He is agreeing with his forum hero Spot's famous anti American foreign policy stance, the 'like there's participation' part insulting his countrymen for their reluctance to engage with Spot yet again.

But perhaps I have that wrong........Ahso will let you know if it's different........just for the hell of it.


I don't doubt that in the least. At work we used to call them 'brown-nosers'....! I think I answered my own question, but thanks anyway, Bruv.
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Oh oh !!

Await the oracle's response........he is hovering.

I am now altered my idea to back off...........and see how long this pointless thread can last.
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Bruv;1489658 wrote: Oh oh !!

Await the oracle's response........he is hovering.

I am now altered my idea to back off...........and see how long this pointless thread can last.


Well, I've got a few chores to see to; can't be feeding goats to Ahso all night! And you're quite right about 'pointless thread', Bruv. Catch ya later!
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I tell you truly; i feel as if if I'm part of a Twilight Zone episode. FG really is an asylum. But Bryn, Spot, Wonderin" and YZGI appear so normal. Then again they hardly post anymore. Which makes Bruv and LM appear normal. Oh my!

Now I get it and I'll adjust accordingly.
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Ahso!;1489661 wrote: I tell you truly; i feel as if if I'm part of a Twilight Zone episode. FG really is an asylum. But Bryn, Spot, Wonderin" and YZGI appear so normal. Then again they hardly post anymore. Which makes Bruv and LM appear normal. Oh my!

Now I get it and I'll adjust accordingly.


Imagine that, I get mentioned in a Monty Python thread and a Twilight Zone post..
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YZGI;1489663 wrote: Imagine that, I get mentioned in a Monty Python thread and a Twilight Zone post..You're a special dude.
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Ahso!;1489611 wrote: I'm crushed. In fact, anyone who knows me knows all too well that I don't think that highly of myself at all. I realize I'm only one member of a species who is no more important in life than an ant.

Perhaps you're projecting. And your feeling are hurt. You'll get over it. But please whatever you do, don't think of me as anything other than a slightly sophisticated monkey. And only very slightly at that.


You keep mentioning hurt feelings and being upset. I never meant to hurt your feelings. I though that this was all just lively banter until you started raving. Sorry.
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Bruv;1489658 wrote: Oh oh !!I am now altered my idea to back off...........and see how long this pointless thread can last.


Did you see what I did there ?

They call that psychology, walking away didn't work, encouraging a lengthy pointless thread.................worked a treat.
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