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Sad insomniac that I am i found myslef watching Bernie Sanders victory speech. It's anovelty hearing an american politician talking about stopping the right wing parties ruining the country (actuaklly it's a novelty here now). Does he have any chanc do you think or will he founder on the knuckle draggers of the bible belt.

It must be a breath of fresh air listening to Bernie Sanders speak. He's a good speaker. Everything Trump is not. Trump makes a lot of noise and says a lot of words, without actually saying anything. Not of any value anyway.

It would sad, in my opinion, if Sanders was thought of as a "wasted vote". It sounds like he's got much to offer, to particularly, those that need it most. Honest politics if that's not an oxymoron

We think like Brits, don't know if the Yanks have evolved that far yet...............it would be funny if it were not true.

Bruv;1492565 wrote: We think like Brits, don't know if the Yanks have evolved that far yet...............it would be funny if it were not true.


We have NOT evolved that far yet...........if Bernie, whose opinions I share, becomes the democratic nominee, he will be crucified as a communist. That's how stupid we are. Yesterday, I had a conversation with a woman who blames the defunct for decades Black Panthers for the ills of society. I felt like a moron after I politely set her straight. Facts don't change people's minds. My dilemma is how I keep my sanity surrounded by idiots and still have pleasant relations with the population.

I don't know much about American Politics, but I know that Bernie Sanders has Jeremy Corbyn's support. That's good enough for me.

AnneBoleyn;1492568 wrote: We have NOT evolved that far yet...........if Bernie, whose opinions I share, becomes the democratic nominee, he will be crucified as a communist. That's how stupid we are. Yesterday, I had a conversation with a woman who blames the defunct for decades Black Panthers for the ills of society. I felt like a moron after I politely set her straight. Facts don't change people's minds. My dilemma is how I keep my sanity surrounded by idiots and still have pleasant relations with the population.


That has been the challenge for decades, I believe.

I am liking Bernie, more and more.

I don't care if the morons who have been wheezing on about our current president being Muslim, and Kenyan, and all that start in on Bernie being a Commie. If he gets into the WH, and he can handle it, I am sure that I can deal with it.

Meanwhile, I've finally given up on the Republican Party. To toy with the Titanic analogy, While they have been busy arguing over how to arrange the deck chairs, I am joining the women and children in a lifeboat.

I was offered this to watch on my facebook page.

Tell it like it is Bernie !

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... +greenspan

I am backing Bernie and Jeremy, the world needs a dose of socialism before it's too late.

Well worth watching all the through Bernie

It doesn't help Bernie here that (gasp!) Europeans are supporting him.

PS--doesn't help him to be a Jew, either, since in many minds Jew is synonymous with 'COMMIE'. Oh, & we're also Capitalist Pigs for owning everything & controlling Hollywood (the media). Bernie is not religious, so the Evangelicals won't give him a pass.

Voting for Bernie in the General is like voting for McGovern or Dukakis. I have real uneasy feelings.

74 is old & his wife (though I find her lovely) is no Melania Trump, more like Mamie Eisenhower. That goes in the "Americans are Shallow & want to be Kardashian" category.

Come on Anne, A socialist Jew in the White House would an improvement after eight years of having a Muslim there. :sneaky:

AnneBoleyn;1492605 wrote: It doesn't help Bernie here that (gasp!) Europeans are supporting him.


If it helps........I withdraw my support immediately.

LarsMac;1492613 wrote: Come on Anne, A socialist Jew in the White House would an improvement after eight years of having a Muslim there. :sneaky:


Ouch

Bruv;1492615 wrote: If it helps........I withdraw my support immediately.


Great. Tell your friends.

AnneBoleyn;1492618 wrote: Great. Tell your friends.


My American daughter is caucusing ??? for him.

Bruv;1492619 wrote: My American daughter is caucusing ??? for him.


Where is she, I forgot. If she is in a caucus state, that's the right terminology. If she's in Iowa, she completed her caucusing & can move onto supporting him by working for his campaign.

AnneBoleyn;1492622 wrote: Where is she, I forgot. If she is in a caucus state, that's the right terminology. If she's in Iowa, she completed her caucusing & can move onto supporting him by working for his campaign.


Yes in Iowa and think thats exactly what she's doing.

Bruv;1492623 wrote: Yes in Iowa and think thats exactly what she's doing.


She sounds as lovely as the daughter I met. Good work, Dad!

AnneBoleyn;1492624 wrote: She sounds as lovely as the daughter I met. Good work, Dad!


I was fortunate enough to meet both of them. It was a great pleasure.

AnneBoleyn;1492624 wrote: She sounds as lovely as the daughter I met. Good work, Dad!


LarsMac;1492625 wrote: I was fortunate enough to meet both of them. It was a great pleasure.


Thank you both. The feeling is mutual.

gmc;1492555 wrote: Sad insomniac that I am i found myslef watching Bernie Sanders victory speech. It's anovelty hearing an american politician talking about stopping the right wing parties ruining the country (actuaklly it's a novelty here now). Does he have any chanc do you think or will he founder on the knuckle draggers of the bible belt.


Well, first of all, it's a given that a Democrat (Left) will win the election. The Right is completely unglued and insane this year. So it's either him or Hillary. I think he has a real chance . Why? Because I am beginning to like him and think of him as a possibility....and I have always, always, known who will win a Presidential election.

Problemm seems to me (speaking as an outsider) is that political dialogue in the US about the power corporations and big money should have has been so stultified anyone challenging it is dosmissed as a left wing lunatic without being given a hearing. Issues like access to medical care ofr all regardless of wealth who in theo right mind thinks that is a bad idea? Same with issues like climate change how anyone can reasonably believe those who advocate doing something is a conspiracy to destroy the american economy beggars belief.

Saint_;1492637 wrote: Well, first of all, it's a given that a Democrat (Left) will win the election. The Right is completely unglued and insane this year. So it's either him or Hillary. I think he has a real chance . Why? Because I am beginning to like him and think of him as a possibility....and I have always, always, known who will win a Presidential election.


In your opinion it's a given. In reality, it's not.

What about ted cruz how likely is it america will become a theocracy if christian fundamentalists have their way?



Used to read US sci fi where the basic premise was that religious right had taken control always thought it a bit daft. Now I'm not so sure. Forty years ago If you'd asked me if there would be the rise of religious warfare in the 21st century I'd have said probably not.

AnneBoleyn;1492772 wrote: In your opinion it's a given. In reality, it's not.


Good point. I've never been wrong in 55 years, but times certainly are a'changin'. The German people, a people steeped in centuries of religion, technologically proficient, and politically savvy... only took ten years to go straight to Hell.

Saint_;1492784 wrote: Good point. I've never been wrong in 55 years, but times certainly are a'changin'. The German people, a people steeped in centuries of religion, technologically proficient, and politically savvy... only took ten years to go straight to Hell.


You've Never Been Wrong in 55 Years? Wow, I sure hope your record stands!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm assuming you are only speaking of Presidential Elections??????????? Can I speak to your wife, please?

I feel the Bern. :yh_flag

I feel the Bern too, AFTR, but I don't think he can win the General. I'm sticking with Hillary. I think she can deliver. Bern's from my neighborhood, btw. He was hanging around recently.

Bernie Sanders Spotted In Midwood This Afternoon - Sheepshead Bay News Site

In scotland the leaders of the main parties are all female and all from glasgow. Women have always been a driving force in social change but they get little credit for it. I've always wondered why mysoginists are so frightened of self confident women. Hillary os part ofn the political establishment is she not? from what I;ve seem bernie is very bad at putting across what he means by being a socialist

gmc;1492888 wrote: In scotland the leaders of the main parties are all female and all from glasgow. Women have always been a driving force in social change but they get little credit for it. I've always wondered why mysoginists are so frightened of self confident women. Hillary os part ofn the political establishment is she not? from what I;ve seem bernie is very bad at putting across what he means by being a socialist


I thought he made it pretty clear.

I still wish rand paul would have made it further. not looking forward to the future.

Omni_Skittles;1492901 wrote: I still wish rand paul would have made it further. not looking forward to the future.


You are a young woman with a lifetime ahead of you. I am so sorry to hear you are not looking forward to your future. I hope you find something to be passionate about and are able to follow your dreams. The best of luck to you and wishes for your personal wonderful life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!