We all knew the Tory House of Cards would crumble before long, but who would have thought it would start with the primary culprit, Iain Duncan-Smith?
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The Worms Are Finally Turning
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:43 am
by spot
It could as easily be seen as the start of the Conservative Party revival.
IDS has taken a rather self-created opportunity to remove himself from the cabinet three months before So-Called Cameron resigns as Prime Minister after the referendum majority favours Leave and UKIP members return to the Conservative fold, job done.
That allows IDS to stand against Boris in the summer leadership election, untainted by cabinet membership and with a self-awarded "lets help the deprived" badge for pretending to have stood up to George Osborne.
Resigning has nothing to do with crumbling, it's to do with taking a gamble for personal benefit. It's his only chance of getting to the top of the greasy pole.
He's still a repellent oppressive grinder of the the poor regardless of his posturing. And he stands no chance at all against Boris anyway.
The Worms Are Finally Turning
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:40 am
by Bruv
And I always thought you were a simple uncomplicated soul Spot
The Worms Are Finally Turning
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:46 am
by spot
All the above seems very unavoidable, I'd have thought. For a lot of people, being able to vote Anti-Cameron will be a decider on whether to vote Leave or Remain.
The vultures are beginning to circle. Boris and IDS have already thrown their hats into the ring.
May we start calling Boris "Spiderman", or is that a step too far?
The Worms Are Finally Turning
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:37 pm
by gmc
spot;1493836 wrote: It could as easily be seen as the start of the Conservative Party revival.
IDS has taken a rather self-created opportunity to remove himself from the cabinet three months before So-Called Cameron resigns as Prime Minister after the referendum majority favours Leave and UKIP members return to the Conservative fold, job done.
That allows IDS to stand against Boris in the summer leadership election, untainted by cabinet membership and with a self-awarded "lets help the deprived" badge for pretending to have stood up to George Osborne.
Resigning has nothing to do with crumbling, it's to do with taking a gamble for personal benefit. It's his only chance of getting to the top of the greasy pole.
He's still a repellent oppressive grinder of the the poor regardless of his posturing. And he stands no chance at all against Boris anyway.
He's always been a eurosceptic. He WAS leader remember? 2001 20 2003 and resigned after a vote of no confidence in his leadership. Don't fancy his chances at all in a leadership election.
Pity she's now retired from politics
The Worms Are Finally Turning
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:41 pm
by spot
I think there's a difference between being voted leader of an opposition party, and being voted in as Prime Minister.
And I agree he has no chance at all.
Here he goes - the start of the IDS For Prime Minister campaign... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35855616Mr Duncan Smith said the Conservatives were in danger of not being a "one-nation party" standing up for everyone.
He said his "painful" decision to resign had not been "not personal" against Chancellor George Osborne.
<<<<: One too many Freudian "not" there, Mister Reporter.
The Worms Are Finally Turning
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 1:59 pm
by the grumps
even though iain duncan slap head smith has gone the nasty tories will still continue to take the axe to the poor only difference is someone will do it ...like the rat he is he,ll be back at the moment he,s just jumped ship before the ss tory titanic goes to the bottom of the sea
The Worms Are Finally Turning
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:17 pm
by spot
the grumps;1493873 wrote: before the ss tory titanic goes to the bottom of the seaGiven the Conservative party has never been out of power for more than 13 years at a time since its foundation 240 years ago, and that its governing principle of looking after the powerful at the expense of the poor dates back in direct line of succession at least as far as the Peasants Revolt of 1381, I can't foresee its dissolution in the immediate future as a likely event. Indeed, were this dissolution to actually happen, what IDS would then subsequently take control of (when "he'll be back", as you put it) is a further mystery you might like to address.
The Worms Are Finally Turning
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:36 am
by spot
The BBC seems to agree that IDS sucker-punched both So-Called Cameron and George Osborne to make his bid for the leadership this summer.George Osborne: chief tactician and patron, a man whose word makes or wrecks careers.
That was the view of many Tory MPs for a very long time. Now, many doubt he will ever be their leader, or even the chancellor much longer.
It's not that they think David Cameron is poised to sack him or that he's about to resign, as Labour demand.
They simply believe a swift leadership election is highly likely whatever the result of 23 June's EU referendum.
If it does come that soon there will be, one predicts, a "genocide of the Cameroons and Osbornites".
A stubbornly enduring deficit, a tax credit U-turn, and the sheer numbers of MPs who have chosen to back a leave vote at the referendum have seen Osborne's authority leak.
A weekend of melodrama has - in one Tory MP's view - burst the dam.
The Worms Are Finally Turning
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:26 am
by FourPart
The problem is that people seem to be viewing his resignation as being a resignation from the Tory party. It seems to be overlooked that although he is no longer a Minister, he is still very much a Tory M.P. - unless, of course he also decides to cross the House (dream on).