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Racist Corbyn ?
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:27 am
by Bruv
Is the following......racist ?
Mr Corbyn had said: "Our Jewish friends are no more responsible for the actions of Israel or the Netanyahu government than our Muslim friends are for those various self-styled Islamic states or organisations."
Has the world gone potty ?
Racist Corbyn ?
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:34 am
by gmc
Just a bit. Hitler did actually support the creation of a jewish state in palestine as somewhere he could send the jews and corbyn is not the one conflating criticism of the jewish state with anti-semitism. . Mysogyny is probably a bigger problem in the labour party certailny is up here.
We've just had a referendum whose in which the leave campaign ran a deliberately racist campaign why so little concern about that?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cr ... 13091.html
Racist hate crimes increase five-fold in week after Brexit vote
The daily mail reports our mep's being bullied in the eu parliament
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rexit.html
I hope he sticks to his guns and fends off the blairites who have wrecked the labour party.
Racist Corbyn ?
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:25 am
by Bryn Mawr
Bruv;1498065 wrote: Is the following......racist ?
Mr Corbyn had said: "Our Jewish friends are no more responsible for the actions of Israel or the Netanyahu government than our Muslim friends are for those various self-styled Islamic states or organisations."
Has the world gone potty ?
No, a poor choice of comparison maybe but there is a clear distinction between criticizing Jews in general and criticizing the actions of Israel's state apparatus.
Racist Corbyn ?
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:27 pm
by Bruv
If the theory that we shouldn't blame all Muslims for the actions of suicide bombers stands true then the same statement must be true about Jews.
Racist Corbyn ?
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:28 pm
by gmc
Or blaming all christians for the holocaust
Racist Corbyn ?
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:06 am
by FourPart
To me it seems clear that he is simply saying that no-one can be held to account for the actions of their Governments or for other minorities who commit atrocities in the name of their own ideology. The statement is neither anti-semite, nor is it anti-Islam. It is merely the gutter press grasping at straws to twist something to mean something it doesn't.
Bear in mind, also, that Corbyn is the only MP to have been arrested for protesting AGAINST Racism during the anti-Apartheid rallies. To accuse him of being a Racist is laughable.
Racist Corbyn ?
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:00 am
by gmc
Any semi competent opposition party would be taking on the tories and what they are about to do to the country instead the blairites in the labour party act as if they have a right to rule and shoot themselves in the foot. Most people in the country see them as just the same as the tories labour membership under Blair went through thne floeer now it's clkimbing again and the blairites don't want another leadership election in case corbyn wins, get him to give in and resign that's what they're after.
Racist Corbyn ?
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:43 am
by Bruv
FourPart;1498104 wrote: To me it seems clear that he is simply saying that no-one can be held to account for the actions of their Governments or for other minorities who commit atrocities in the name of their own ideology. The statement is neither anti-semite, nor is it anti-Islam. It is merely the gutter press grasping at straws to twist something to mean something it doesn't.
Bear in mind, also, that Corbyn is the only MP to have been arrested for protesting AGAINST Racism during the anti-Apartheid rallies. To accuse him of being a Racist is laughable.
Both Judaism and Islam are religions, not countries.
Whoever it was that complained confused the word Jew with the word Israeli.
Racist Corbyn ?
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:20 am
by FourPart
Bruv;1498123 wrote: Both Judaism and Islam are religions, not countries.
Whoever it was that complained confused the word Jew with the word Israeli.
All Israelis are Jews, but not all Jews are Israelis.
Racist Corbyn ?
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:28 pm
by Bryn Mawr
FourPart;1498125 wrote: All Israelis are Jews, but not all Jews are Israelis.
That's not true in the slightest, about twenty percent of Israelis at the time is its formation were Arabs and, whilst it's now down to about ten percent, that's a lot of non Jewish Israelis.