A dog act

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:53 pm

When is france finally going to crack the whip on these barstards.

Im not even scared of these dogs anymore, im just sick of them.

So far 73 dead and counting. And the truck was full of arms and grenades . Obviously waiting for people on the ground to use them.

Well looking at the windscreen of the vehicle he was well and trully sent to his maker.

Damn im just angry now

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:17 pm

75 dead now

I'm watching CNN with Anderson Cooper.

Horrible

Patsy

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:25 pm

And this? Is martyrdom???? Really?...... wheres the soldiering here? Wheres the courage? The bravery?

Nah theres no martyrdom here. Just wankers who targeted a family fireworks display .

Its an insult to call these islamists dogs isnt it?

Post by **LarsMac** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:33 pm

magentaflame;1498546 wrote: And this? Is martyrdom???? Really?...... wheres the soldiering here? Wheres the courage? The bravery?

Nah theres no martyrdom here. Just wankers who targeted a family fireworks display .

Its an insult to call these islamists dogs isnt it?

It is to Dogs.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:24 am

I have always thought they are either mad or driven.

If they are mad..................what can you do ?

If they are driven, find what is driving them and do something about that.

minks · Post by **minks** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:54 am

In my opinion, I think these low life coward killers are driven, they come from nothing, they are brain washed into believing they will leave this world for a better place, and how to get there is by glorified killings.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:52 am

One week ago today I had to put my sweetheart, Sophie, down.

What's the matter?

Can't call it for what it is?

ISLAMIC TERRORISTS

Evil people doing evil things using whatever means to accomplish their ends. Ya all got Obamaitis or what?

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:56 am

Look, we ban kiddie porn from the web, don't we? How come we can't ban extremist islamic propaganda? It's just as bad.

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:03 pm

tude dog;1498565 wrote: One week ago today I had to put my sweetheart, Sophie, down.

What's the matter?

Can't call it for what it is?

ISLAMIC TERRORISTS

Evil people doing evil things using whatever means to accomplish their ends. Ya all got Obamaitis or what?

Oh, and sorry about your dog, Tude. That's just like losing a child. My kitty is 17 this year and he can't have too much longer either. I'm really not looking forward to that day.

On a side note, I'll call 'em ISLAMIC TERRORISTS! There. Now you know at least one liberal that will do it, and in writing, so you can't tell people anymore that liberals won't say that.

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:05 pm

Also, I hate to triple post, but say goodbye to privacy. And I'm not really all that upset about it. If it'll help catch a single one of these evil bastards, the NSA can listen in on my posts and phone calls all day long.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:09 pm

Saint_;1498567 wrote: Oh, and sorry about your dog, Tude. That's just like losing a child. My kitty is 17 this year and he can't have too much longer either. I'm really not looking forward to that day.

We have a number of elder cats. One we put down just a couple of days ago.

Saint_;1498567 wrote: On a side note, I'll call 'em ISLAMIC TERRORISTS! There. Now you know at least one liberal that will do it, and in writing, so you can't tell people anymore that liberals won't say that.

Sorry if I gave you the impression that is I was speaking of Liberals. I was specifically speaking of President Obama.

Mark Aspam · Post by **Mark Aspam** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:39 pm

Responding to several posts at once, my understanding is that the killer was a solitary disgruntled Frenchman, no connection whatever with anything Islamic or foreign. At least, that is what was being reported this morning on American media.

If anyone knows that that is incorrect, please respond.

LATER REPORTS: The killer was Tunisian, not French, but no indication of any affiliation with organized terrorists.

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:48 pm

tude dog;1498565 wrote: One week ago today I had to put my sweetheart, Sophie, down.

What's the matter?

Can't call it for what it is?

ISLAMIC TERRORISTS

Evil people doing evil things using whatever means to accomplish their ends. Ya all got Obamaitis or what?

I am really sorry about your dog, Sophie.

I am puzzled on what that has to do with terrorism, or Obama.

minks · Post by **minks** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:51 pm

just a killer, a killer is a killer, it's time we quit categorizing killers.

This week in our city a black man killed a white woman and her mixed race daughter, here in Calgary, we have called him a killer, we have not started riots about a black man killing a white woman, or black man killing a child, he is just a dirty filthy killer. Any one who kills is a killer. I believe the more we label killers the more violence we set the world up for. Lets rally against black men and kill them, lets rally against Islamic, white, Asian extremists and kill them, NO, lets call them killers and punish them and stop advertising that it is a certain color, religion or gender.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:34 pm

LarsMac;1498571 wrote:

I am puzzled on what that has to do with terrorism, or Obama.

Well gee, seems I jumped the shark on this one. Don't know what the motive was. As of now can't say the murderer was motivated by some idiotology.

My point being is no matter what seems when it suits him Obama cannot see obvious Islamic Terrorism.

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:04 pm

Everyone wants to go out with a bang today. It's all about that 15 minutes and being remembered.

We should offer an 'Out' pill.

No one remembers folks who do good anymore.

minks · Post by **minks** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:09 pm

right on Flopstock.

And let's muzzle the media for glorifying these killers as well as giving wannabe killers ideas

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:14 pm

tude dog;1498575 wrote: Well gee, seems I jumped the shark on this one. Don't know what the motive was. As of now can't say the murderer was motivated by some idiotology.

My point being is no matter what seems when it suits him Obama cannot see obvious Islamic Terrorism.

Everybody likes to externalize their problems. Blaming all the ills in this country on Islam is not going to do one thing to solve any of our problems.

The shooter in Dallas was not Islamic. Dylan Rooff was not islamic, James Holmes was not Islamic, The Driver in Nice was not Islamic, The idiots at Malheur were not Islamic, Robert Dear was not Islamic. The Guy in Orlando, well, he was from a Muslim Family, and when he was on the phone after the shooting, he made noise about supporting ISIL, but he was really a closet gay man seeking revenge for being jilted. So, blaming all that crap on Islamic Terrorists isn't going to solve anything. It just gives us something to hate while we sit on our hands and curse the darkness.

And trying to hang it all on Obama is really pathetic in my opinion.

Again, sorry about Sophia, but hating Obama for that won't help.

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:18 pm

minks;1498579 wrote: right on Flopstock.

And let's muzzle the media for glorifying these killers as well as giving wannabe killers ideas
Absolutely! I've said forever that we should reserve coverage to the victims lives in these things. Should never even mention the group claiming ownership of an event like this.

minks · Post by **minks** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:26 pm

praise the hero's fill the media with the hero's and survivors. Time to spread good news in any way we can. It's quite amazing how easy it is for the negative and bad to flow, because it's so sensationalized.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:42 pm

LarsMac;1498581 wrote: Everybody likes to externalize their problems. Blaming all the ills in this country on Islam is not going to do one thing to solve any of our problems.

The shooter in Dallas was not Islamic. Dylan Rooff was not islamic, James Holmes was not Islamic, The Driver in Nice was not Islamic, The idiots at Malheur were not Islamic, Robert Dear was not Islamic. The Guy in Orlando, well, he was from a Muslim Family, and when he was on the phone after the shooting, he made noise about supporting ISIL, but he was really a closet gay man seeking revenge for being jilted. So, blaming all that crap on Islamic Terrorists isn't going to solve anything. It just gives us something to hate while we sit on our hands and curse the darkness.

I understand what you are trying to say. All the same, what else do we have to work with?

The examples above often led into blaming guns, something I wanted to avoid. I could have been smart-aleck and produced a response along those lines.

LarsMac;1498581 wrote: And trying to hang it all on Obama is really pathetic in my opinion.

Wasn't trying to this all on him. I have a legitimate question

When is anything Islamid Terrorism?

LarsMac;1498581 wrote: Again, sorry about Sophia,

Thank You

LarsMac;1498581 wrote: but hating Obama for that won't help.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:41 pm

In my mind the word terrorist legitimizes an organization. In terms of " one mans terrorist is another mans friend . You may as well call them an army which in essence they are.

No, for me youre either a dog or a ligitimate soldier....this mans a dog. .... in my language its one of the worst things to be called based on your actions or thoughts.

Its like....you have. 'Killers' but there are a miriad of reasons why a persons kills . You can kill another person but if you torture them first then that makes you a dog. ...... see the difference?

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:06 pm

I think this fellow has opportunistically joined the disaffected Islamist faction because he 'happens' to be Tunisian thereby Muslim......he was (and I don't say this lightly) a nutter, he had personal problems, financial, matrimonial, he was a loner, a strange type. How many other mass murderers have in retrospect been described similarly ?

It seems these loosers grow a bit in esteem by randomly screaming 'allahu akbar' as they have a mental breakdown.

Not saying all the real terrorists are not genuine, only that this fellow is only vaguely connected to their cause by the accident of his birth place, and the feeling of belonging it gave him.

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:21 pm

magentaflame;1498601 wrote: In my mind the word terrorist legitimizes an organization. In terms of " one mans terrorist is another mans friend . You may as well call them an army which in essence they are.

No, for me youre either a dog or a ligitimate soldier....this mans a dog. .... in my language its one of the worst things to be called based on your actions or thoughts.

Its like....you have. 'Killers' but there are a miriad of reasons why a persons kills . You can kill another person but if you torture them first then that makes you a dog. ...... see the difference?

Well, I must protest on behalf of all the dogs in the world. You're being unfair. Dog Lives Matter.

Seriously. Dogs are some of the best friends we humans have ever had, and to call these bstards Dogs is unjust.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:28 pm

:wah: oh go hug a tree! ......would rabid dog surfice? They are nobodys friend.

Oh hang on ! Theyre showing a TRT news reader being set up for broadcast....maybe back on air.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:37 pm

Bruv;1498606 wrote: I think this fellow has opportunistically joined the disaffected Islamist faction because he 'happens' to be Tunisian thereby Muslim......he was (and I don't say this lightly) a nutter, he had personal problems, financial, matrimonial, he was a loner, a strange type. How many other mass murderers have in retrospect been described similarly ?

It seems these loosers grow a bit in esteem by randomly screaming 'allahu akbar' as they have a mental breakdown.

Not saying all the real terrorists are not genuine, only that this fellow is only vaguely connected to their cause by the accident of his birth place, and the feeling of belonging it gave him.

Which is all very well, except he has a truck full of guns grenades and bombs..........he wasnt going to use all of them . Whixh begs the question, who in the crowd was waiti ng for the shipment of arms?

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:49 pm

magentaflame;1498608 wrote: :wah: oh go hug a tree! ......would rabid dog surfice? They are nobodys friend.

Really?

To me, that dog would still be my friend. When I had to put my Sophie down the vet asked me if I would like to spend some time with her. My answer was Sophie is gone, that laying there is a dead dog.

No different if she had rabies.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:54 pm

Eeeyeah.......but anyway....want to bring your attention back to 84 and counting french people...men women and children being deliberately run down by a truck full of arms

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:07 pm

magentaflame;1498616 wrote: Eeeyeah.......but anyway....want to bring your attention back to 84 and counting french people...men women and children being deliberately run down by a truck full of arms

According to the report that I just read, all of the arms in the truck with the exception of the pistol he was using were replicas and toys.

That is pretty damned weird.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:09 am

He was a njutter. In america he would have been armed with machine guns. No doubt someone will use a lorry at some point in the future. People just do not see delivery lorries you can go anywhere with them. Just be grateful terrorists haven't thought of blowing up a petrol tanker in the middle of a city

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:25 am

magentaflame;1498610 wrote: Which is all very well, except he has a truck full of guns grenades and bombs..........he wasnt going to use all of them . Whixh begs the question, who in the crowd was waiti ng for the shipment of arms?

You must wait for the later updates and not run with the very first headline news whether in papers or broadcast.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:28 pm

gmc;1498619 wrote: He was a njutter. In america he would have been armed with machine guns. No doubt someone will use a lorry at some point in the future. People just do not see delivery lorries you can go anywhere with them. Just be grateful terrorists haven't thought of blowing up a petrol tanker in the middle of a city

Well, somebody in this country considered that possibility. For a commercial driver to drive such vehicles requires a background check. The problem is making people obey a law.

Also, I wonder just who thought it was a good idea to allow a 38-ton vehicle in the middle of such a celebration?

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:16 pm

tude dog;1498626 wrote: Also, I wonder just who thought it was a good idea to allow a 38-ton vehicle in the middle of such a celebration?

Allowed ?

How do you think the shops restock ?

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:14 pm

Trucks carrying petrol or chemicals need special permits to go into CBD areas. Thats the law here. Petrol tankers arent allowed in CBD areas at all.

I would think thats a world wide situation.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:26 am

tude dog;1498626 wrote: Well, somebody in this country considered that possibility. For a commercial driver to drive such vehicles requires a background check. The problem is making people obey a law.

Also, I wonder just who thought it was a good idea to allow a 38-ton vehicle in the middle of such a celebration?

What you need a background check to drive a truck but not to buy an assault rifle?

Have they considered the possibility someone might just steal a truck? Why a truck anyway when a ton of explosives in the back of a van or one of your SUV's can do an awful lot of damage. When was the lat time you opaid any attention to an SUV parked in the street. I suspect it won't be long before someone copies the method, come to that wa there not an attack in the US by right wing militia (oklahoma?) who used trucks parked in an undergroiund car park to attack a government building. There was one IRA attack where they used rockets in the back of lorry luckily they were home made and not very effective how about a heavy machine gun on the back of a truck the sas used to do a lot of damage with those.

It's not the elaborate plots that are the problem it's the random attacker.

cars · Post by **cars** » Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:19 am

Random attackers with no history of terrorists affiliations are impossible to be identified up front. And since they are willing to die for their cause, they will be successful. Unfortunately therefore they cannot be stopped, until their deed done!

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:46 pm

CBD areas

Meant to ask. What are they?

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sun Jul 17, 2016 1:15 pm

Bruv;1498627 wrote: Allowed ?

How do you think the shops restock ?

Many times local traffic is altered during big celebrations or other huge gatherings of people. Not because of terror fears, but lorries are big and awkward to maneuver. I don't know Nice so that may not have been a concern.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sun Jul 17, 2016 1:35 pm

magentaflame;1498628 wrote: Trucks carrying petrol or chemicals need special permits to go into CBD areas. Thats the law here. Petrol tankers arent allowed in CBD areas at all.

I would think thats a world wide situation.

Here there are no national regulations like that. Drivers transporting HAZMAT must know the local regulations.

I suppose CBD = Commerical Business District.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:08 pm

gmc;1498634 wrote: What you need a background check to drive a truck but not to buy an assault rifle?

Commercial drivers need a background check to transport over 1000lbs of hazardous materials.

Going to be a bit picky here. People keep calling semi-automatic rifles assault rifles. Real Assault Rifles are not only very expensive but not everywhere legal. The federal government regulates who can have an assault rifle. 10 REQUIREMENTS TO BUY AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON, SILENCER, OR SHORT BARRELED RIFLE

As far as Semi-automatic rifles go every gun dealer must have proof of a background check before selling a firearm. That federal rule does not apply to private sales.

Not that a lot of good does all that government regulation does, like the November 2015 Paris attacks

gmc;1498634 wrote: Have they considered the possibility someone might just steal a truck? Why a truck anyway when a ton of explosives in the back of a van or one of your SUV's can do an awful lot of damage. When was the lat time you opaid any attention to an SUV parked in the street. I suspect it won't be long before someone copies the method, come to that wa there not an attack in the US by right wing militia (oklahoma?) who used trucks parked in an undergroiund car park to attack a government building. There was one IRA attack where they used rockets in the back of lorry luckily they were home made and not very effective how about a heavy machine gun on the back of a truck the sas used to do a lot of damage with those.

It's not the elaborate plots that are the problem it's the random attacker.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:16 pm

gmc;1498648 wrote: Meant to ask. What are they?

Central business district.....where all the sky scrapers live .

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:59 pm

Hey there Mags,

How the hell are ya?

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:08 pm

Kathy! Hows it going?

Alls well here. Nice to see a friendly face again amongst all this tragedy.

Got a new film for you. Hilarious! New zealand film.