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<t>littleCJelkton;1393492 wrote: Because it's is here the fact that I am reading it doesn't attest to its senselessness. There are many senseless things that occur in this world that I have to bear witness to this thread happens to be one of them. Though I do thinkk Savage should no better than to ...

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Mickiel;1393157 wrote: I like it when I narrow Atheist down to two words, because it simplifys them; they are so accustomed to complicating things.

I'd like it if you'd make more sense.

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Vrindavana Das;1393144 wrote: I think it means that what does not exist, would not be in our consciousness. We would not be aware of it's existence at any conscious level.

What about unicorns, vampires, leprechauns,...? By his reasoning they would exist as well then, no?

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Mickiel;1393102 wrote: Is God real? We would not be conscious of him if he were not real.

Erm.

What?

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rajakrsna;1391864 wrote: Atheists & theists go to war. So, why just put the war aside & let democracy take over.

My god.

See what I did there?

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<t>rajakrsna;1391862 wrote: As I said let`s put this thing to an end by votation. Those who believe in the existence of God & those who do not. Whoever gets the most number of votes wins. Deal or no deal? 
 
 
Sigh. The existence of something is not up to vote. 
 
And it's not ...

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<r>Go right ahead, Townes, my answer would have been similar anyway <E>;)</E> 
 
You see it a lot, believers claiming things can't be proven or explained so it has to be god, while science HAS provided answers. Most famous one: Bill O'Reilly's "tides come in, tides go out, you can't explain ...

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Religious texts have not been the same since time immemorial, look at the changes the bible has undergone throughout the ages. And even so, being unchanged for several centuries does NOT make something true.

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<t>Richard Bell;1391652 wrote: Oh, yeah. He is one. 
 
He reminds me of somebody I once knew that desperately needed attention from people all the time. He frequently got his attention fix by acting like a total asshat.Didn't matter that the attention gained was negative. The only important ...

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AnneBoleyn;1391612 wrote: Oh! see, I thought that was your picture! I don't really follow basketball, so don't know most players. Well then, he certainly looks American because he is! You don't write with an accent!

Thanks, that's a great compliment

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<r>AnneBoleyn;1391565 wrote: Hi Savage. I think I read you are Belgian, but you sure look & "sound" American. 
 
 
Yes I'm from Belgium, born in Brussels and now living mostly in Ghent for my studies. How come you think I'm American? <E>:)</E> 
 
edit: if the 'look-part' is ...

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K.Snyder;1391518 wrote: No, who's Hitler? Hitler who?

I think I may be stopping in Berlin on the way to Greece, however, for a one night stay...

Very nice city.

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rajakrsna;1391514 wrote: Because he suspects I`m a troll.

Not suspecting, hoping. Sadly it seems you're not.

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rajakrsna;1391509 wrote: You are a Bulgarian, right?

I'm a Belgian. Why?

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Dude really.

Think for a minute.

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<t>rajakrsna;1391482 wrote: Question: Can God, the President of the United States perform a miracle? 
 
Answer: To end the Pacific War which had cost countless of lives to the American people US President Truman dropped 2 A-Bombs in Hiroshima & Nagasaki, Japan. The miracles Jesus of ...

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rajakrsna;1391477 wrote: Yes, man. The Americans do not want a repeat of history, the assassination of US Presidents Lincoln and Kennedy.

But how does that make the US president 'God'?

Perhaps your definition of 'God' is somwhat, unconventional.

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<t>rajakrsna;1391471 wrote: So who says there`s no God? There is a God. In America, he is the US President Barack Obama. Proof? Go to American & yell in public, " I will kill the President of the United States!" & let us see what happens to you after doing that. Or you yell in public in London with ...

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Honestly, does it matter that much what's on your nation's currency? I can unerstand your position, I would not like it if it says 'In God we trust' on my money, but I wouldn't care too much.

I'm just blown away by the far-going and utterly laughable conclusions rajakrsna is making.

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<t>rajakrsna;1391456 wrote: Is the Queen of England worshiped as if she were a Goddess? Only the US President can pardon a hardened criminal sentenced to death. Only the US President can sign a bill into a Law. When The US President says, " We go to war!"" We go to war. In other words, those who do ...

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<r>rajakrsna;1391434 wrote: Atheists do not believe in God. Why? Because they think God is a Person. God refers actually to the State. If you see on the back of the US dollar bill that says, " In God We Trust, " it means that you trust in the United States of America whose head is the US President ...

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<t>Mickiel;1391425 wrote: The bible has lasted the test of time , it will last the onslaught of Atheistic growth in the world. Given the thrill of seeing new buds grow, some unbelievers in God will ride that wave as hard as they can. This is part of knowledge increasing and the plan of God outlined ...

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Townes;1391401 wrote: Thank you

Pretty new here myself. Quite some characters here.

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<t>Townes;1391391 wrote: Oh. Oh wow. I am speechless. I am not sure if I should be scared or disgusted that such bigotry exists. 
 
...Are you even a doctor, or are you a faith healer? 
 
 
Something tells me he doesn't have the intelligence to be a doctor. 
 
Could be ...

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<t>Townes;1391390 wrote: The only place Sodom and Gomorrah are mentioned is the Bible. There is no archeological or historical evidence that they ever existed in the first place. 
 
 
Indeed. 
 
But, sadly, a lot of people still rely on the premise that what's in the bible is ...

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I want to ask you something else aswell, Mickiel, how do you read the bible?

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<t>Mickiel;1391169 wrote: None that you accept or see, I certainly see it, as have the vast majority of humans in history, and who are alive now! Your view is the minority by far. In fact, if you choose the scientific evidence, then history supports that science began from religion! Science took its ...

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<t>Mickiel;1391167 wrote: Oh I believe in evolution, yet I see the orgin of evolution as God, not some imaginary explosion in space that orginated from nothing. In my view, God defintely used evolution on primordal man; it was simply part of his designing process. I don't think hes using " Physical ...

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<t>Mickiel;1391164 wrote: The big bang theory is not proof of creation or matter. Explosions destroy, they do not create. Nor are explosions self containing life, so the big bang theory defys biogenesis; life only comes from life, and no theory has disproven that. The big bang could in no manner of ...

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<t>So, what's your point? You believe every text that claims to be holy? 
 
It's the beauty of science that it realises that not everything is known yet and that their is still a long way to go. This in contrast with religion. 
 
I don't see the logic in going from 'science can't ...

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<t>Vrindavana Das;1391156 wrote: Not correct. 
 
Evolution, like Big-bang is a THEORY. What is the PROOF that it is correct? 
 
Newton says there is Gravity. Einstein's relativity theory says there is No Gravity. Both theories have scientific instruments which function well, proving ...

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<t>Vrindavana Das;1391152 wrote: You say evolution just happens. It is a product of natural processes and not creator. 
 
Like you said, burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. Prove that statement. Objectively. 
 
 
Just to be clear: do you deny evolution or are ...

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<t>Vrindavana Das;1391149 wrote: You insisted on an object proof. You should give objective definition of God for an objective answer. When you could not give an objective definition of God, asking for an objective proof loses it's meaning. Till both agree on what they are proving/disproving, how ...

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<t>Vrindavana Das;1391139 wrote: Yes, by God, I mean the Supreme Lord. That God is the same as Christian's God, or Jew's God, or Islam's God... 
 
Please define Supreme Lord/God. 
 
Proof can be direct evidence. It can also be indirect evidence - proof by perception. 
 
To ...

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rajakrsna;1390961 wrote: It happened in Sodom & Gomorrah when her people said, " God is not here."
You actually believe that truly happened?

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<t>Vrindavana Das;1391133 wrote: Two requests: 
 
1. Please define God. 
 
2. As you say - 'All that proof'...'is no proof'. Kindly define what 'proof' means. 
 
Please define objectively and not subjectively. 
 
 
God: When I read your post, it seemed to me ...

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Mickiel;1391119 wrote: I believe both objectively and subjectively that God exist and both objective and subjective evidence supports my belief.

What's your objective proof?

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Ahso!;1391116 wrote: You've met Mickey, Savage. Mickey is a special member.

Welcome to FG.

Thanks.

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Mickiel;1391111 wrote: It most certainly is objective proof in my view, just not in your view.

That makes it subjective. Objective proof is, well, objective.

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Mickiel;1391093 wrote: One mans joke, is another mans market of seriousness.
Sigh.

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Mickiel;1391092 wrote: Simply not a shot that hits home in your head, it certainly has hit the target in mine.

Whether it hits home in your head or not; it isn't objective proof.

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<t>Vrindavana Das;1390845 wrote: Friend, none here has been able to disprove God's existence also! Can you? 
 
As for God's existence, science knows that there are various laws like gravity, action-reaction, inertia etc., which it discovers and uses in day-today applications. Ever paused to ...

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Mickiel;1389528 wrote: I sure would like to see God shift his gears and begin dealing with humanity the way he did in biblical times; That would be quite something!

You're joking right?

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