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I recieved this Email today!!! If things aren't already purplexing enough, read this if you dare!



(I did check refs & it did back up this email, so . . . )



Subj: Fwd: This will get you thinking!



This is well worth reading. You can confirm the authenticity by googling the references.



To All My Friends, this is long, but very important, please take the time to read it..

This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking "where did the money come from for Obama". I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans.

I started looking into Obama's life.

Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. "Barry" (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, a fter his second year in college, he made a "round the world" trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family. My question - Where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my c hildren would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It's not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia , he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York.

By "chance" he met Antoin "Tony" Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named "Entrepreneur of the Decade" by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association". About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, wh ich he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill &Galland. Guess what? They represented "Rezar" which Rezko's firm. R ezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with "seed mone y" for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home i n Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he ge t the money for the property? On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.

Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss. S he is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?

On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was "sacked" after the press found out he was having regular contacts with "Hamas", which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will "Take care of things".

Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those "small" Internet campaign contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?

And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on "This Week" with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, "My Muslim faith". When questioned, "he make a mistake". Some mistake!

All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.



Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own. Why haven't all of our "intelligent" members of the press been reporting this?

A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - "Beware of the enemy from within"!!!





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OMG........:-5....will this ever end?
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A load of crap if you ask me. The repubs will do anything and make up anything to discredit Obama. They are that desperate.
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I would have said it was questionable as well, but Wakipeda confirmed it! So . . . ???
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cars;1006127 wrote: I would have said it was questionable as well, but Wakipeda confirmed it! So . . . ???


You mean Wikapedia?
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qsducks;1006167 wrote: You mean Wikapedia?
Yeah, that one too!
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qsducks;1006103 wrote: A load of crap if you ask me. The repubs will do anything and make up anything to discredit Obama. They are that desperate.


I don't know ducky...Obama has a history of interacting with shady characters...and he WAS originally raised as a muslim in his early years. I think he'll destroy the US.
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jimbo;1006414 wrote: i'm shell shocked :thinking::thinking:


Ok jimbobillybob...how long is this going to last??? Damn, I shouldn't have sent that to you!! :wah::wah:
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cars;1006127 wrote: I would have said it was questionable as well, but Wakipeda confirmed it! So . . . ???


And who put the confirming entries into Wikipedia?

Accusations like that need more confirmation than Wikipedia.
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Ian;1006448 wrote: What the hell are you on about? there is something of a nasty undercurrent in your post that make me feel very uncomfortable....

name the dodgy people and what are you suggesting about being raised a Muslim??


Well what the hell are you on about? No nasty undercurrent...just my opinion...I think the US will implode if Obama gets elected. I don't understand why my post would make you feel uncomfortable...but that's your deal.

William Ayers and his wife...terrorists. Rev. Wright and Father Fleger both far left loonies and anti white and supporters of Louis Farakkan the most racist man I've heard of, Tony Rezko fraud.

Obama himself has stated that he was brought up Muslim at an early age. Didn't you read my post carefully before you come out with the gloves on???? I said At an EARLY age.
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Shouldn't you worry a bit more about GW Bush's and McCain's connections to Saudi Arabia?

Question for you. Which Middle Eastern nation has very close ties to the present administration, benefits most from the destruction of Iraq and Iran and is behind the rise if Islamic fundamentalism? Which also, incidentally, now owns large chunks of US foreign debt, and should it now decide to cease trading oil in dollars will wreck what's left of your economy.

If McCain gets elected Osama Bin laden will probably jump for joy. More of the same foreign policy is exactly what islamic fundamentalists need.
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[quote=Ian;1006501]

Whats wrong with Muslims???



Im wondering the same thing.

As for him taking trips during college............OMG :eek:
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Ian;1006501 wrote: That's the point.. both democrats and republicans have supporters or members that you could dish the dirt on etc etc.. but what does being a muslim At an EARLY age supposed to imply?

I haven't taken my "gloves" off at all I'm just trying to work out what you were implying.

Whats wrong with Muslims???


Not Muslims in general, but the radical ones. I don't trust Obama's judgement...he's made so many bad decisions when it comes to radical people, regardless of their religion. I'm not trying to imply anything about him being raised Muslim when he was young...just stating a fact. I believe he was 6 when he stopped, but it still makes me nervous. I also don't trust in, or believe in someone that supports partial birth abortions...I don't understand how he can be a Christian and still support this. To me, this is just plain evil.
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jimbo;1007054 wrote: what do you call a muslim flying a plane ?????





















a pilot you racist :wah::thinking: ok i'm outa here :D


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Politically incorrect or not, it's still something that needs to be considered. He's made several slips on what his faith may be. How do you forget what you are? People have a right to be concerned. I said concerned, not hateful. I don't see any hate here myself. I see valid concern.
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shelbell;1007047 wrote: Not Muslims in general, but the radical ones. I don't trust Obama's judgement...he's made so many bad decisions when it comes to radical people, regardless of their religion. I'm not trying to imply anything about him being raised Muslim when he was young...just stating a fact. I believe he was 6 when he stopped, but it still makes me nervous. I also don't trust in, or believe in someone that supports partial birth abortions...I don't understand how he can be a Christian and still support this. To me, this is just plain evil.


So you actually prefer someone that thinks the war in iraq was a good idea and a christian fundamentalist that believes the creation story is the literal truth?

McCainn's an irish name. how do you know he's not an irish terrorist?
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shelbell;1006400 wrote: I don't know ducky...Obama has a history of interacting with shady characters...and he WAS originally raised as a muslim in his early years. I think he'll destroy the US.


What has Britain being saying??

Why do the British press report so heavily in McCain's favour?

Obama has said he wants to raise the white flag to Iraq.

Who's next? Iran -- Pakistan -- AL- Queda ??

Take him out McCain for the worlds sake.

I said it in another thread but if our press reports corresctly --- ummm America, what was a stealth bomber doing only 20 miles out of British fly space?
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gmc;1007185 wrote: So you actually prefer someone that thinks the war in iraq was a good idea and a christian fundamentalist that believes the creation story is the literal truth?

McCainn's an irish name. how do you know he's not an irish terrorist?


Yes...and did you know that Biden also voted for the war?

He's not.
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gmc;1007185 wrote: So you actually prefer someone that thinks the war in iraq was a good idea and a christian fundamentalist that believes the creation story is the literal truth?

McCainn's an irish name. how do you know he's not an irish terrorist? Hell, i wondered where i'd seen him before :wah:
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oscar;1007201 wrote: What has Britain being saying??

Why do the British press report so heavily in McCain's favour?

Obama has said he wants to raise the white flag to Iraq.

Who's next? Iran -- Pakistan -- AL- Queda ??

Take him out McCain for the worlds sake.

I said it in another thread but if our press reports corresctly --- ummm America, what was a stealth bomber doing only 20 miles out of British fly space?


Exactly.

I haven't heard about the stealth bomber...I haven't been following the news like I usually do, I spend too much time on FG! :wah:
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shelbell;1007217 wrote: Yes...and did you know that Biden also voted for the war?

He's not.


Yes he must be he's got an irish name that makes him a catholic and a terrorist. That's every bit as rational as you saying Obama is a muslim. It's in his blood, bet he was a member of Noraid.
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shelbell;1007220 wrote: Exactly.

I haven't heard about the stealth bomber...I haven't been following the news like I usually do, I spend too much time on FG! :wah:


I'd love to have seen that Stealth. --- Mind you, so would the radar at The British Ministry of Defence :yh_hypno:yh_hypno:yh_hypno
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gmc;1007226 wrote: Yes he must be he's got an irish name that makes him a catholic and a terrorist. That's every bit as rational as you saying Obama is a muslim. It's in his blood, bet he was a member of Noraid.


Half of American governments funded the IRA
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gmc;1007226 wrote: Yes he must be he's got an irish name that makes him a catholic and a terrorist. That's every bit as rational as you saying Obama is a muslim. It's in his blood, bet he was a member of Noraid.


Do you not actually READ my posts? I did NOT say Obama IS a muslim, I said he was raised as a muslim until around the age of six.

Catholics do not call for Jihad!
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shelbell;1006400 wrote: I don't know ducky...Obama has a history of interacting with shady characters...and he WAS originally raised as a muslim in his early years. I think he'll destroy the US. I am with ya Shell. He will take us down in flames. if not Literally. It will be in the pocket book. A Lot worse then it is already.:(
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There's an old saying here in the USA, you may have something similar in your countries as well.

It goes: When you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas! :-2
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Ian;1006501 wrote: That's the point.. both democrats and republicans have supporters or members that you could dish the dirt on etc etc.. but what does being a muslim At an EARLY age supposed to imply?

I haven't taken my "gloves" off at all I'm just trying to work out what you were implying.

Whats wrong with Muslims???


We have very good friends that are Muslim. My husband has worked for them for 10 years, they live in the next street and there is nothing they would not do for us. Their generosity and peacefull approach to life is outstanding.

Mr Oscar has been very ill but is back there part time now. We regard them as our closest friends. They have been more loyal than some British friends.

Alot of their extended family come and go at the business until visa's run out.

We have spent many years discussing war etc with them. Although they have British citizenship, they have said, that in the outcome of a war -- they are Muslim first -- British second.

That may sound bad. They are not terrorists, i know they are not but they make no bones about their loyalty to Saddam.

What do we do? Kick them out of the country because they are honest.?

This is an example -- not the norm to say.
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shelbell;1006400 wrote: I don't know ducky...Obama has a history of interacting with shady characters...and he WAS originally raised as a muslim in his early years. I think he'll destroy the US.


Oh and I suppose bush & cheyney haven't already done that? Let's see, all the contracts to rebuild Iraq went to ....Haliburtan (Cheyney;s former employer) and it was no bid.
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shelbell;1007256 wrote: Do you not actually READ my posts? I did NOT say Obama IS a muslim, I said he was raised as a muslim until around the age of six.

Catholics do not call for Jihad!


You do seem to be suggesting once a muslim always a muslim. The contamination sta in early.

Actually catholics do call for holy wars. What do you think a crusade is? They called for it several times. So do protestants come to that.

Your very own president has called for a crusade or holy way on terrorism and by implication on all muslims. It's hard to believe the president of the united states didn't understand what he was saying. To use it once you can understand perhaps but to use it again after he must be aware of it's meaning does make you wonder.

Bush & Co. have wrecked your economy, bankrupted your country, lost the support of your allies throughout the world, resulted in the deaths of several thousand American soldiers thousands more maimed for life has just got the taxpayer to bail out all his cronies in the banking world, McCain agreed with it all the way through and promises more of the same (what does he say he will do if the Iraqi government asks american troops to leave) and you think that is better than anything else on offer. One of your biggest creditors is Saudi Arabia. Now who was in the planes on 911?

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I am with ya Shell. He will take us down in flames. if not Literally. It will be in the pocket book. A Lot worse then it is already


Tell me how could it be any worse?
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gmc;1007789 wrote: You do seem to be suggesting once a muslim always a muslim. The contamination sta in early.

Actually catholics do call for holy wars. What do you think a crusade is? They called for it several times. So do protestants come to that.

Your very own president has called for a crusade or holy way on terrorism and by implication on all muslims. It's hard to believe the president of the united states didn't understand what he was saying. To use it once you can understand perhaps but to use it again after he must be aware of it's meaning does make you wonder.

Bush & Co. have wrecked your economy, bankrupted your country, lost the support of your allies throughout the world, resulted in the deaths of several thousand American soldiers thousands more maimed for life has just got the taxpayer to bail out all his cronies in the banking world, McCain agreed with it all the way through and promises more of the same (what does he say he will do if the Iraqi government asks american troops to leave) and you think that is better than anything else on offer. One of your biggest creditors is Saudi Arabia. Now who was in the planes on 911?

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Tell me how could it be any worse?


If we don't have a holy war on terrorism gmc, then what do we all do?

I am not so dumb as to assume that my religion is the Mother of all.

I do believe that AL- Queda is still a cell that must never be allowed to grow.

Not all Muslims are terrorists.

All Al-Queda terrorists are Muslim. - Fact

The AL-Queda pilots in those planes on 9/11 were trained at a camp in Oregon, USA.

They were funded by Abu Hamza, A British Muslim hate preacher cleric from Finsbury Park, London, who is still in Our country appealing to the courts over and over to avoid extradition on International Terror charges in the U.S.A.

It is because of the likes of Tony Blair's nanny state that this abhorant piece of scum is still in our country with other hate clerics deluding young british Muslims.

Abu Hamza has also been linked to funding training camps in Pakistan for young Muslim British men.

Do we really want another nanny state in America? If Obama gets in and offers the white flag as he says he will, we are all doomed.

Have you forgotton the Iran/Iraq war? They are aggressors, even against their own whoever is responsible to funding them.

Have you forgotton The British Embassy seige by Iranian Exremists,

The Iranian plane Hi jack?

In this country Rememberence Sunday falls on the 9th November.

I will be laying my wreath but in amongst all the war vets from The Royal British Legion will be a man who along with the rest of The British Army, opened fire, -- Sunday Bloody Sunday. That will be a tough call for me.
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I just watched the VP debate again, just to be sure.

What the heck was that winking all about from Palin?

Like Obama, it was tacky and cheap. :yh_wink:yh_bigsmi:yh_alien
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If we don't have a holy war on terrorism gmc, then what do we all do?


We spent thirty + years fighting IRA terrorism without calling for a holy war on catholics. Spain fought ETA for years without declaring war on all catalans, France has had muslim terrorists for years without declaring holy war.

Terrorism is not a new phenomenon, americans just think it is because they now think they are targets. You fight terrorism as if they are the small unrepresentative groups of dissidents they really are. You don;'t blow uop the neighbourhood they live in and then wonder why those living in it start supporting the terrorists.

All Al-Queda terrorists are Muslim. - Fact


All the 911 terrorists were from saudi arabia, not iraq-Fact

They were funded by Abu Hamza, A British Muslim hate preacher-BOLLOCKS


They were funded by saudi arabia-fact

Wahibism started in saudi arabia-fact

Saudi arabia has lots of oil and owns much of the US debt-fact

Do we really want another nanny state in America? If Obama gets in and offers the white flag as he says he will, we are all doomed.


Do we really want a flag waving nitwit likely to start another world war?

Have you forgotton the Iran/Iraq war? They are aggressors, even against their own whoever is responsible to funding them.


Not their own shia against sunni-like catholic and protestant. left alone islamic fundamentalist prefer to war on each other.



Have you forgotton The British Embassy seige by Iranian Exremists,


No- nor the fact that they were actually opposed to the fundamentalist takeover of Iran by fundamentalists

How come the Kurds are now listed as a terrorist group when pre iraq war they were gallant freedom fighters against nasty Saddam (clue, where is the oil in iraq)



It is because of the likes of Tony Blair's nanny state that this abhorant piece of scum is still in our country with other hate clerics deluding young british Muslims.


I can't stand Tony Blair-but you seem to forget he's the twit that lied to parliament to con us in to going to war against Iraq. So he's good for attacking iraq but bad because he can't overrule our courts-what kind of dictatorship do you want to live in?
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gmc;1009890 wrote: posted by oscar



We spent thirty + years fighting IRA terrorism without calling for a holy war on catholics. Spain fought ETA for years without declaring war on all catalans, France has had muslim terrorists for years without declaring holy war.

Terrorism is not a new phenomenon, americans just think it is because they now think they are targets. You fight terrorism as if they are the small unrepresentative groups of dissidents they really are. You don;'t blow uop the neighbourhood they live in and then wonder why those living in it start supporting the terrorists.



All the 911 terrorists were from saudi arabia, not iraq-Fact



They were funded by saudi arabia-fact

Wahibism started in saudi arabia-fact

Saudi arabia has lots of oil and owns much of the US debt-fact



Do we really want a flag waving nitwit likely to start another world war?



Not their own shia against sunni-like catholic and protestant. left alone islamic fundamentalist prefer to war on each other.





No- nor the fact that they were actually opposed to the fundamentalist takeover of Iran by fundamentalists

How come the Kurds are now listed as a terrorist group when pre iraq war they were gallant freedom fighters against nasty Saddam (clue, where is the oil in iraq)





I can't stand Tony Blair-but you seem to forget he's the twit that lied to parliament to con us in to going to war against Iraq. So he's good for attacking iraq but bad because he can't overrule our courts-what kind of dictatorship do you want to live in?


Before joining this forum, i went by memory.

I have learnt that i need to research alot more before i speak.

I am very aware of The Troubles with the IRA, that's one thing i am clear on.

If you notice gmc, i do ask alot of questions of you on here.

I do value your opinions although may dis-agree about being in Iraq.

I became aware of the pilots in 9/11 being Saudi only yesterday.

I do need to look into it more, before i talk more Bollocks.

As for what kind of dictatorship do i want to live in?, as i told you, it's why i resigned my membership from The Labour Party nearly a year ago and am trying to seek alternative Partie's.

At the moment, i just don't know tbh. They seem as bad as each other.
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I became aware of the pilots in 9/11 being Saudi only yesterday.
:eek:You have got to stop reading the daily mail-or read something else as well, on line don't bother buying them.

As for what kind of dictatorship do i want to live in?, as i told you, it's why i resigned my membership from The Labour Party nearly a year ago and am trying to seek alternative Partie's.

At the moment, i just don't know tbh. They seem as bad as each other.




You and everybody else membership has more than halved. I never joined:D

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I would like to bring an urgent issue to your attention.

The issue, of an inadequate representation and lack of equality for Teddy Bears in modern society. They stay loyal to us through the good and the bad times for so many years, and then are dumped up in an attic, and forgotten. I propose you add to your manifesto:

1) equal rights for Teddies, including voting, marriage, driving and of course the right to drink if aged 18 or over.

2) It to be illegal to put Teddies in boxes, put them in attics, cupboards or anywhere else they will not get to see the light of day.

3) All work places and offices to have at least hired one teddy, and that it must be present in the office at all times.

4) A fair representation of the Teddy Bear minority in parliament.

5) Taxes to also be payable in milk, biscuits, bread and honey, and all other foods considered part of the teddy bear's natural diet.

I was shocked and appalled, after mentioning this to a member of the labour party in the pub, and them shooting the idea down, calling it stupid and pointless.

I hope you take this issue seriously and address it immediately, it has been ignored by British governments for far too long, and once these laws are passed, we will be

leading the way in the fight for Equal Rights for Teddies globally.

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gmc;1009948 wrote: posted by oscar

:eek:You have got to stop reading the daily mail-or read something else as well, on line don't bother buying them.



You and everybody else membership has more than halved. I never joined:D

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Well your a smug twat then arn't you??:wah:

The Oscar's have been grounded for some days due to having builders in.

So yesterday and this morning i have had the time to read other papers on line.

I will be doing this alot i hope over the next few days.

Have you seen the bloody price of the Daily Mail??

I have visited your site before. I agree 100% with the Teddy Pact and may even put it to my "Action Committee Meeting". So Ner. :driving:
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shelbell;1006400 wrote: I don't know ducky...Obama has a history of interacting with shady characters...and he WAS originally raised as a muslim in his early years. I think he'll destroy the US.


Unlike Bush and his Republican administration who has done a first class, bang-up job of keeping the country safe and rich? :wah:
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