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Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:31 pm

southern yankee;1023227 wrote: we are imbarrest what the rest of the world thinks about us:o

Don't think that. We just don't understand how your country runs some-times. It's alot different here, think of it as three states, Britian, Scotland and Ireland. We have enough trouble running that lot, you've got 50 states all with their own Govenors and Senators.

Bush will be history very soon and there will be a new President that can bring change if they want to.

Good Luck southernyankee :-6

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:34 pm

oscar;1024511 wrote: Don't think that. We just don't understand how your country runs some-times. It's alot different here, think of it as three states, Britian, Scotland and Ireland. We have enough trouble running that lot, you've got 50 states all with their own Govenors and Senators.

Bush will be history very soon and there will be a new President that can bring change if they want to.

Good Luck southernyankee :-6

Oliver Stone just released his movie "W" and two papers rated it with one giving it 3 out of 4 stars & the other 2 out of 4 stars.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:51 pm

qsducks;1024516 wrote: Oliver Stone just released his movie "W" and two papers rated it with one giving it 3 out of 4 stars & the other 2 out of 4 stars.

I'm not of a fan of Oliver Stone to be honest, i love Martin Scorcese films, i.e Goodfellows, that has to be my best ever and Casino. Mostly because they are loosley around the true characters of the Italian mafia and i just love De Niro and Joe Pesche, oh and Ray Liotta.

Do you know who's playing Bush?

I'll go to see that when it comes here. It'll be very interesting to see how they have written his 8 yrs in the Whitehouse.

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:45 pm

qsducks;1024516 wrote: Oliver Stone just released his movie "W" and two papers rated it with one giving it 3 out of 4 stars & the other 2 out of 4 stars. i haven't been to a movie in ages. may go see this one. at a matinee of cores.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:55 pm

oscar;1024529 wrote: I'm not of a fan of Oliver Stone to be honest, i love Martin Scorcese films, i.e Goodfellows, that has to be my best ever and Casino. Mostly because they are loosley around the true characters of the Italian mafia and i just love De Niro and Joe Pesche, oh and Ray Liotta.

Do you know who's playing Bush?

I'll go to see that when it comes here. It'll be very interesting to see how they have written his 8 yrs in the Whitehouse.

Josh Brolin is W and Richard Dreyfus is Cheney. Oooh, my hubs loves the Scorcese films himself. Don't get him started.:wah:

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:56 pm

southern yankee;1024562 wrote: i haven't been to a movie in ages. may go see this one. at a matinee of cores.

Last movie I saw in theatres was Shrek 3 (awful). I'll wait for the video.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:03 pm

qsducks;1024575 wrote: Last movie I saw in theatres was Shrek 3 (awful). I'll wait for the video.

Shrek??? you sure that wasn't the W film you were watching????? :wah::wah:

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:08 pm

oscar;1024583 wrote: Shrek??? you sure that wasn't the W film you were watching????? :wah::wah:

What? You never saw Shrek? Your joshing! Hey and there is no comparison between Shrek who is awesome compared to Bush who is just a shrub that you have to weed whack once in awhile:wah:

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:14 pm

qsducks;1024574 wrote: Josh Brolin is W and Richard Dreyfus is Cheney. Oooh, my hubs loves the Scorcese films himself. Don't get him started.:wah: josh Brolin got in trouble in La. northern part of the state, fighting in a bar.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:32 pm

southern yankee;1024599 wrote: josh Brolin got in trouble in La. northern part of the state, fighting in a bar.

Did you read the reviews for the movie? He's seen holding a beer after claiming "I'm sober" in almost the end of his presidency.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:59 pm

Jester;1024689 wrote: I'm going to side with my boy Hoss on this one, I say McCain by a fairly narrow margin though, and it really don't matter casue Barry isn't a US citizen and he can't be president anyway, proof will have to come out, what they do to bend the constitution on this one will be interesting.

But if Obama does become president, and after proof he's not a domestic born US citizen if he is somehow installed as President, he won't be MY president. And I will fight every decision he makes and devote my life to making sure nothing is implemented that he signs.

Hell hath no fury like a Jester scorned of his constitution...

We may very well find a state willing to sucede, and reconstitute our original constitution!

Now there's something worth fighting for!

As for being "installed" as president? Wasn't your boy George installed by the Supreme Court?

Not a US citizen? He was born in Hawaii - remember that is part of the US?

Your Constitution? What? Do you have your own that everyone else in the US is unaware of?

As far as seceding from the US? Move to Alaska and join Todd Palin who belongs to the group that wants to secede from the US. I'm sure they will embrace you.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:06 pm

Jester;1024689 wrote: I'm going to side with my boy Hoss on this one, I say McCain by a fairly narrow margin though, and it really don't matter casue Barry isn't a US citizen and he can't be president anyway, proof will have to come out, what they do to bend the constitution on this one will be interesting.

But if Obama does become president, and after proof he's not a domestic born US citizen if he is somehow installed as President, he won't be MY president. And I will fight every decision he makes and devote my life to making sure nothing is implemented that he signs.

Hell hath no fury like a Jester scorned of his constitution...

We may very well find a state willing to sucede, and reconstitute our original constitution!

Now there's something worth fighting for!

You are grasping at straws Jester. He is an American citizen, born in Hawaii with a mother that was an American citizen. That's all that's needed. If there were any problems it would have been introduced way long ago.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:09 pm

Lon;1024698 wrote: You are grasping at straws Jester. He is an American citizen, born in Hawaii with a mother that was an American citizen. That's all that's needed. If there were any problems it would have been introduced way long ago.

How else did he become a Senator? Duh:wah:

Post by **spot** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:13 pm

Jester;1024689 wrote: But if Obama does become president, and after proof he's not a domestic born US citizen if he is somehow installed as President, he won't be MY president. And I will fight every decision he makes and devote my life to making sure nothing is implemented that he signs. Jester, just out of interest, if it turns out that he was, as he claims, actually born in Hawaii, would that make a difference to you?

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:53 pm

Jester;1024767 wrote: All,

If it turns out that after a thorough investigation he is a us born citizen then I'll serve him as I would any other president. No problem.

Not like it matters to me much, the military rumor is that we're all headed home on January 21st.

There won't be any more terrorist based deployments, we'll pull up all the stops, and hand over to the indigiounous persons who we have helped throughout the world, and give them no more help, and just walk away leavign them cold just like every other democrat president has ordered.

So much for answering a few questions.:wah:

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:59 pm

Jester;1024774 wrote: Nope, turns out after the count he won anyway.

Barack was born in Kenya, his mother never made it to Hawaii before he was born, no one has signed off on his birth certificate, he's blocked access, the only thing he's willign to porve his US birth with is a verification of his birth certificate, by a man who did not sign his certificate, it's only stamped.

I want PROOF, I'm not taking some certificate wiht no real signature of verification.

Until I see the law suit settled, and the real birth certificate verified by a judge and the evidence his mother never got on the plane fomr kenya settled, he wont be my president even if he's elected.

You really are delusional aren't you?

Post by **spot** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:06 pm

Jester;1024784 wrote: I'm thinking more like my home in Kansas, I'll set me up a nice perimiter and you'll read about me in the news it'll be a randy weaver senario, cept, I wont miss any of them poor sociliast-government bastards trying to access my constitutionally protected land.

Whatever you do Jester, don't call your spread a religious compound or the world will have another AFT siege on its hands.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:07 pm

It's not a big surprise that not many people totally agree with you here on the FG and it's probably because most us can spell correctly and we have all moved into the 22nd century where you are still living in the 19th century.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:07 pm

Jester;1024778 wrote: Using the same phoney certificate, thats never been verified, and just accepted because no ones got the nuts to check it out.

you honestly believe it wasn't checked out?:-5

Post by **spot** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:10 pm

qsducks;1024791 wrote: we have all moved into the 22nd century where you are still living in the 19th century.So *that's* why it's so quiet recently. They got time travel working!

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:16 pm

Jester;1024800 wrote: Yep! I do, Ive seen a lot of assumptions in government. But hey, its easily solved, just tell yer boy Obama to post the certificate instead of blocking the lawsuit. You don't think its a tad bit odd?

Are you aware of how much information is on a birth certificate? Ever hear of Identity Theft?

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:17 pm

Jester;1024800 wrote: Yep! I do, Ive seen a lot of assumptions in government. But hey, its easily solved, just tell yer boy Obama to post the certificate instead of blocking the lawsuit. You don't think its a tad bit odd?

he's not my boy here in Canada, but if I could.....I would vote for him over that other twit!

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:22 pm

Jester;1024800 wrote: Yep! I do, Ive seen a lot of assumptions in government. But hey, its easily solved, just tell yer boy Obama to post the certificate instead of blocking the lawsuit. You don't think its a tad bit odd?

This is the highest of governments......do you think only one person was responsible for finding out everything they could about him?

There would be tons, he would be checked and re-checked, interrigated, anything that was in his past..............they would know.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:23 pm

Jester;1024805 wrote: Good Lord, Ducks, slap yerself for being so silly, he BLOCKED the lawsuit with an additonal lawsuit! If he was for real and up front and honest why dont he just have the judge verify the cetificate and have the judge read it for himself and rule on it?

Whats he hiding? Does it not seem strange that he'd not just clear it up? Does any red flag pop up in your pretty little head at all?

No it doesn't seem strange at all. I think you are grasping for straws. His mom was an American! Duh! Oh by the way, did you graduate from high school, because your grammer stinks.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:23 pm

were not talking t.v shows here and what we see on them!

Post by **spot** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:26 pm

qsducks;1024810 wrote: No it doesn't seem strange at all. I think you are grasping for straws. His mom was an American! Duh! Oh by the way, did you graduate from high school, because your grammer stinks.The odd thing is that a child born that year to an American woman under the age of 19 out of the USA had no automatic right to US citizenship. It's just a quirk of US law, and Senator Obama's mother was under 19. If she gave birth to him in Kenya as is alleged then his paperwork is fraudulent.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:28 pm

Jester;1024801 wrote: Yer kind of a pissy little thing arent ya...

[BDon't like women second guessing you?

Post by **spot** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:31 pm

Presumably, Jester, if Senator Obama stood down over the citizenship matter (or got ejected) after the election and Vice-President Biden took the presidency you'd still refuse to recognize him as well? You'd reject the entire election?

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:33 pm

Jester;1024815 wrote: Ducks, ya wanna stick to the discussion or insult my grammer? I passed you up on the last dig, I wont respond to another, I might joke a bit but I dont play stupid games in a discussion. So play nice.

Ooooh shaken in my boots. Your a name I can't say here.:wah:

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:35 pm

Odie;1024809 wrote: This is the highest of governments......do you think only one person was responsible for finding out everything they could about him?

There would be tons, he would be checked and re-checked, interrigated, anything that was in his past..............they would know.

Totally agree especially with the so called Patriot Act that has been in place since 2003/4? And is updated every year. Oh, ok. Not directed at you Odie.

Post by **spot** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:35 pm

Jester;1024824 wrote: I think the issue should be required to be settled before the election and a new democrat nominee placed into the ticket if he's ineligiable. Then the voting should take place on schedule.

But that's not going to happen. You're down to the last couple of weeks here. You're out of time on it. Which leaves you with the question as I asked it.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:37 pm

Jester;1024824 wrote: I think the issue should be required to be settled before the election and a new democrat nominee placed into the ticket if he's ineligiable. Then the voting should take place on schedule.

And so would you vote for Hillary?