79 Million

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:06 pm

That's the number of Americans that could have voted and didn't in the last U.S. election. That's pathetic. If you are one of them, don't you dare complain about the state of U.S. affairs. I don't want to hear your bitching and moaning about what we should or shouldn't be doing. I don't want to hear that your one vote doesn't matter. Get out of your sef centered enviornment and vote next time.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:17 pm

HERE, HERE LON,

I agree 100% tired of the whiney people that bitch to know end about the way things are. The you find out they don't even VOTE.. :-5

I VOTE AND I MUST VOTE IF I WANT MY ONE VOTE TO COUNT.. YES YOUR ONE VOTE COUNTS.. REGISTER AND VOTE.. :yh_flag

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:20 pm

Well, that number will increase. My son was so happy to register to vote when he got his driving license this week...................still makes me the only Republican in the household though!

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:44 pm

I have voted every election - even school boards and bonds since I was 18 - yes that is 30 years. :-6 I know it is my right and privilage to speak and spout my opinions in public. The only way I feel I can do that is to cast my VOTE. If you don't vote - don't complain.

Wolverine · Post by **Wolverine** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:43 pm

count me one of the 79 million.

did NOT like either candidate or what their campaign stood for. it was like trying to pick the lesser of two evils:

the greedy liar Democrat

or

the under-educated daddy's boy.

I'm voting McCain next time around, whether he's on the ballot or not.:wah:

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:05 pm

I'll be glad when people realize that the Demo-Republicans and the Repo-Democrats are both dragging the country down the same wrong road. They just argue about which side of the road they should drag it on. :-5

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:20 pm

Wolverine wrote: count me one of the 79 million.

did NOT like either candidate or what their campaign stood for. it was like trying to pick the lesser of two evils:

the greedy liar Democrat

or

the under-educated daddy's boy.

I'm voting McCain next time around, whether he's on the ballot or not.:wah:

There were more than two candidates running in the last election.

Wolverine · Post by **Wolverine** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:02 pm

Lon wrote: There were more than two candidates running in the last election.
other than Nader of the Green Party and the National Communist Party's candidate WHO??

Majenta · Post by **Majenta** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:32 am

I believe there was a similar situation here in Britain for the last general election - it makes me so cross, especially being female and (although not a feminist) knowing what the suffragettes did to win the right to vote. I asked some of my friends who didn't vote why they chose not to and got some shocking replies: 'it makes no difference', 'I don't really care', 'I don't like any of the candidates' etc...

If that's the way you feel, you should officially abstain (ie go but don't cross any of the boxes), at least that way you're making a point instead of just letting the rest of the world do all the work to make sure you have an easy life. It makes me so cross :-5

Wolverine · Post by **Wolverine** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:35 am

Majenta wrote:

If that's the way you feel, you should officially abstain (ie go but don't cross any of the boxes) :-5

that is a great idea. I shall try to remember that next time around.

Majenta · Post by **Majenta** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:14 am

glad to be of help

hope that didn't come across as a personal attack Wolverine, just something I feel quite strongly about!

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:26 am

Here in the US the Republicrats know they have a choke hold on the government, so years ago they changed the rules of how a party's candidate can get on the ballot. Now it's so difficult, many don't think it's possible so they don't even try. Any party that does try gets castrated then ignored. Mention any party other Than the Siamese twins in the US and you're likely to get a derisive remark about how nutty and extreme it is. Pity.

I ask my fellow Gardeners: How many parties are represented in your national legisatures?

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:10 am

I disagree Accountable. I like the Libertarians and they don't seem extreme at all to me. I vote and vote often, I have single-handedly swung a local election before. (I was the last to vote, and the guy I voted for won by one vote.)

I always vote for who I think will do the best job. and yes, I voted for Ross Perot. If everyone would vote their conscience, then maybe things would change, but as it is, people are afraid to vote against the big parties, feeling that it wouldn't matter. Well it does.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:13 am

Jives wrote: I disagree Accountable. I like the Libertarians and they don't seem extreme at all to me. I vote and vote often, I have single-handedly swung a local election before. (I was the last to vote, and the guy I voted for won by one vote.)

I always vote for who I think will do the best job. and yes, I voted for Ross Perot. If everyone would vote their conscience, then maybe things would change, but as it is, people are afraid to vote against the big parties, feeling that it wouldn't matter. Well it does.
I said "likely"

I wonder who would have won if organized parties were illegal? :rolleyes:

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:17 am

If that's the way you feel, you should officially abstain (ie go but don't cross any of the boxes), at least that way you're making a point instead of just letting the rest of the world do all the work to make sure you have an easy life. It makes me so cross :-5

Not a bad idea.

Wolverine · Post by **Wolverine** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:40 pm

Majenta wrote: glad to be of help

hope that didn't come across as a personal attack Wolverine, just something I feel quite strongly about!
absolutely not. to quote my former Sicilian neighbor...

"fah-gedda-boud-it":wah:

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:45 pm

I registered to vote under one of the 2 parties that hold primary run-offs in the US. I just wanted to be sure I could do something earlier than the general election. I have rarely voted in the general election for the person I voted for in the primary but at least I got an extra "say". I feel VERY STRONGLY about voting.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:47 pm

I remember some elections where I voted for one cadidate, and my husband the other. He would laugh and say we canceled out each other's vote, but I believe every vote counts!

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:49 pm

THe point is....................you voted and exercised your right to complain.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:13 am

nvalleyvee wrote: I registered to vote under one of the 2 parties that hold primary run-offs in the US. I just wanted to be sure I could do something earlier than the general election. I have rarely voted in the general election for the person I voted for in the primary but at least I got an extra "say". I feel VERY STRONGLY about voting.
When I first became interested in voting, I toyed with the idea of joining the opposing party so I could vote in their primary for somebody I knew would lose.