Don't forget your poppy.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:05 pm

This year in Britain, Rememberence Sunday falls on the 9th November.

If you can't make it to your local war memorial or are in a situation where you can not hold your two minutes silence, please buy and wear a poppy with pride.

You do not have to pay for your poppy. The Royal British Legion will give them away without money being handed over.

Please remember our fallen men and women here in Britain as well as in America.

Pride costs nothing.

Milly · Post by **Milly** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:06 pm

Will do Oscar... just as I do every year babe

x

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:24 pm

Milly;1031017 wrote: Will do Oscar... just as I do every year babe

x

Good on yer :-6

The Chairman of the RBL rang us today with our rota for poppy collecting. I'm down for 6 days but i got a nice cushy stand in a Sainsbury's where they make you coffee....(I'm not daft).

On Rememberence Sunday, I'm going with the Chairman and the old boys and i've got 4 war memorials to visit on the day. We do have good night in the club afterwards as well. Bet it's raining???:wah:

I'm laying blue wreaths this year for the RAF

Last year, we put 6 tins in local upper schools. 4 we're stolen and the other two collected 37p between them. Disgrace on the school teachers i say,

Our local Sainsbury supermarket took just over £6,000 on one week.

Post by **spot** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:46 pm

You have "our fallen men and women here in Britain as well as in America".

You're close enough to the Royal Legion to ask the grass-roots whether they also include the fallen conscripts of the Axis Powers in their thoughts and prayers on Armistice Day. I'd be interested in the answer. Do try to get the wording the way I phrased it.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:56 pm

spot;1031063 wrote: You have "our fallen men and women here in Britain as well as in America".

You're close enough to the Royal Legion to ask the grass-roots whether they also include the fallen conscripts of the Axis Powers in their thoughts and prayers on Armistice Day. I'd be interested in the answer. Do try to get the wording the way I phrased it.

I will ask Spot. I'll be talking to some of them tomorrow. It's always good to hear another side and they certainly love to talk!!

I will report back to you with a reply. They don't hold back, so i'm sure they will be truthfull.

dubs · Post by **dubs** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:50 pm

Well done Oscar, for your work with RBL. Did you see the pics of my visit to the National Memorial Arboretum?..

pinkchick · Post by **pinkchick** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:58 pm

oscar;1031016 wrote: This year in Britain, Rememberence Sunday falls on the 9th November.

If you can't make it to your local war memorial or are in a situation where you can not hold your two minutes silence, please buy and wear a poppy with pride.You do not have to pay for your poppy. The Royal British Legion will give them away without money being handed over.

Please remember our fallen men and women here in Britain as well as in America.

Pride costs nothing.

Always do

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:05 pm

dubs;1031272 wrote: Well done Oscar, for your work with RBL. Did you see the pics of my visit to the National Memorial Arboretum?..

Not yet, I've been out so i'll look now, thanks Dubs :-6

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:11 pm

Just found this Spot, but will find out more tomorrow about the other side, Jules

http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/content ... 3446.shtml

Post by **spot** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:24 pm

http://www.vetsinprison.org.uk/ was in the news yesterday too. It makes disturbing reading. What service personnel have to cope with is extraordinary.

Richard Bell · Post by **Richard Bell** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:12 pm

oscar;1031016 wrote:

Please remember our fallen men and women here in Britain as well as in America.

There are Canadians, Australians, Irish and other nationalities on FG whose nations fought and continue to fight against tyranny.

I would suggest we remember all those who have unselfishly served humanity in the quest for justice and freedom, regardless of nationality.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:18 pm

oscar;1031016 wrote: This year in Britain, Rememberence Sunday falls on the 9th November.

If you can't make it to your local war memorial or are in a situation where you can not hold your two minutes silence, please buy and wear a poppy with pride.

You do not have to pay for your poppy. The Royal British Legion will give them away without money being handed over.

Please remember our fallen men and women here in Britain as well as in America.

Pride costs nothing.

even here when its November 11th, I wear it proudly weeks before, for all countries.

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:26 am

oscar;1031036 wrote: Good on yer :-6

The Chairman of the RBL rang us today with our rota for poppy collecting. I'm down for 6 days but i got a nice cushy stand in a Sainsbury's where they make you coffee....(I'm not daft).

On Rememberence Sunday, I'm going with the Chairman and the old boys and i've got 4 war memorials to visit on the day. We do have good night in the club afterwards as well. Bet it's raining???:wah:

I'm laying blue wreaths this year for the RAF

Last year, we put 6 tins in local upper schools. 4 we're stolen and the other two collected 37p between them. Disgrace on the school teachers i say,

Our local Sainsbury supermarket took just over £6,000 on one week.

Do you know what Oscar...I reckon that people have forgotten what The RBL and Poppy day REALLY stand for. I hear that people won't wear poppies because it 'glorifies' war. .....

Not sure what the TV campaign will be this year but I hope it aims to 'educate' as well as fund raise.

I'll wear mine with pride and watch the Festival of Remembrance

Post by **spot** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:31 am

Richard Bell;1031670 wrote: I would suggest we remember all those who have unselfishly served humanity in the quest for justice and freedom, regardless of nationality.You know, if you politicize Poppy Day like that I think you do it a colossal disservice. It's a day to remember the fallen.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:20 am

spot;1032077 wrote: You know, if you politicize Poppy Day like that I think you do it a colossal disservice. It's a day to remember the fallen.

I spoke to a Colonel today Spot. It may be a little selfish but he says poppy day for him is all about his comrades who fell in WW11 and to remember the Great War.

I know the money from Poppy day doe's help all sevice-men including Gulf war victems, and they even send victems to holiday centre's now, but his opinion seems to be the general one.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:23 am

My FIL fought in Korea, rest his soul. I give to the Purple Heart. They come every other month and take your used clothes, pots/pans, etc. and give them to the veterans of wars.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:26 am

Bez;1031898 wrote: Do you know what Oscar...I reckon that people have forgotten what The RBL and Poppy day REALLY stand for. I hear that people won't wear poppies because it 'glorifies' war. .....

Not sure what the TV campaign will be this year but I hope it aims to 'educate' as well as fund raise.

I'll wear mine with pride and watch the Festival of Remembrance

Years and years ago, i had a small Beagle living just outside of Brighton. I walked her in the graveyard every night just before going to bed for some years as it was just next door to the building i was living in.

One night we approached the entrance, it was pitch black dark, and for some reason, she just stopped at the gates. Nothing i could do would budge her. I peered in through the gates thinking she'd seen another dog or something, and i will never forget this row after row of little wooden crosses as it had been Rememberence Sunday, glowing in the light of the moon.

I ran like hell. :wah::wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:54 am

If any members would like to visit my picture album and see the pictures i have put on of damage to our local war memorial, i am sure you will feel the same disgust as myself.

These pictures are some of hundreds that we have built a case over 8 years on behalf of the Royal British Legion.

Over 8 years, not one arrest or prosecution has taken place although police admit that our memorial is a trouble-spot for local kids and youths.

These pictures and many more are now in the hands of 'The Daily Mail'. Come poppy day, i hope they print them and show this country just what kids think of the men and women who fought for this country.

I am Ashamed...... Are you????

Post by **spot** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:57 pm

oscar;1032411 wrote: I am Ashamed...... Are you????I'm more baffled at the lack of education which can lead to that level of disregard. No child ends up with that capacity for disregard if he's been brought up properly. I'm convinced that your argument is with their parents and schooling and that the more you push against the children the more reaction you'll generate. Division into "us and them" isn't going to help them learn.

neil · Post by **neil** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:07 pm

Out here Oscar, you have to buy your poppy, but the money goes to Legacy, which helps the families of those who did not return, and those who did, but died an early death as a result of wounds or sickness, such as an aunty of mine. They helped her get a war widows pension after my uncle died at 61, (he served on Rabaul and in New Guinea)

:-1 For those who did not return, Lest We Forget

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:22 pm

spot;1032471 wrote: I'm more baffled at the lack of education which can lead to that level of disregard. No child ends up with that capacity for disregard if he's been brought up properly. I'm convinced that your argument is with their parents and schooling and that the more you push against the children the more reaction you'll generate. Division into "us and them" isn't going to help them learn.

Well, Yes, i have to agree with you.

We have had a new Beat manager for the past 10 months that the RBL, councillors and myself are in touch with regually. he is going into the schools and giving talks to the kids about just what it is there for. A local councillor told me that he was amazed to hear from a head teacher that they have lessons about 'The Beatles' but not our wars.

Although i may appear very 'anti-youth', we have spent a lot of time up there talking to the kids and half the time they really don't know anything or why folk find even littering on the memorial so distressing. I think it also a general anti-social behaviour problem in this country, not just aimed at war memorials although i know that in recent yrs, just along the South coast, Brighton, Hove, Worthing, Portsmouth, Southampton and Plymouth have been badly vandalised.

I must say also, that this is not all the kids here. We have a school by the war memorial that turns out 1,200 pupils a day. Police officers agree with me that it is the persistent 30 or so repeat offenders who ruin it for everyone and give other kids a bad name.

We are currently in talks with the school for the children to help us in a 'Planting Day' where they will help renovate the memorial. I shall make sure the local rag gets that one if nothing else.