British foxes still being slaughtered needlessly after the government banned it.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:29 am

As you will see by my pics on the Forum head, i have a love affair with foxes. They are probably my passion in British wildlife.

A report in The Daily Mail yesterday said more foxes are being slaughtered SINCE the government made it against the law.

I personally along with half this country battled long and hard for many years to see this barbaric sport of hunting the unedible, made illegal under the Blair government.

What's going on? :-1

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:39 am

:-1

How are they being slaughtered Oscar?

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:48 am

abbey;1028443 wrote: :-1

How are they being slaughtered Oscar?

Did you hear that the British Post Office has just recalled their latest stamps?

Well, they had photos of Manchester United players on them - folk couldn't figure out which side to spit on.

the hitman

2 for 1 special

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:01 pm

Amazing the government even had to ban it. I mean who would want to slaughter British foxes anyway ?

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:01 pm

el guapo;1028460 wrote: Did you hear that the British Post Office has just recalled their latest stamps?

Well, they had photos of Manchester United players on them - folk couldn't figure out which side to spit on.

the hitman

2 for 1 specialSomeone payed you for that??!!

Pah! I laugh at your insult. :wah:

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:02 pm

abbey;1028479 wrote: Someone payed you for that??!!

Pah! I laugh at your insult. :wah:

ya are a mod i have to be careful

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:10 pm

Getting back to the thread origins, I thought that there was a total ban on foxhunting?

eta Just found the article you sited and I'm bloody sickened!

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:42 pm

That link needs editing Abbey in order to work.

Try: - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -ever.html

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:05 pm

Well I wouldn't wear either.....but thats me.

Post by **Betty Boop** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:06 pm

I'm kind of with the Hunt Guys, the traditional hunt weeded out the sick and the old and generally drove the youngsters on to new ground away from farms.

Has anyone ever walked into a field of sheep at lambing time that has had a visit from a fox overnight. The fox kills for pleasure as well as necessity, a bit like man really.

kayleneaussie · Post by **kayleneaussie** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:07 pm

I wouldnt wear either

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:13 pm

I think its the fact they do it for sport,,

and the way they do it that does'nt sit well with me

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:14 pm

fuzzy butt;1028520 wrote: Me if it was neccessry. but if you run out over there you can come here and shoot the bloody things. Especially the one who keeps getting in my garage.

some idiot brought foxes here for a bit of sport many moons ago and they are one of the mian reasons for the extinction of some of our small natural wildlife. well them and cats . They had a forum here not that long ago on the radio asking if people would wear fox and cat coats ....................Well I would.

Ok you need to just pull yourself together !

Time out for you.

Clearly you need a drink and a sedative.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:16 pm

Betty Boop;1028526 wrote: I'm kind of with the Hunt Guys, the traditional hunt weeded out the sick and the old and generally drove the youngsters on to new ground away from farms.

Has anyone ever walked into a field of sheep at lambing time that has had a visit from a fox overnight. The fox kills for pleasure as well as necessity, a bit like man really.Betty I have had my Chickens killed and Ducks and as you have stated they do it for pleasure as well as to eat.I also live in the Country but do I believe in Fox hunting.....to right I dont....shooting them ...yes,Also foxes are bred for hunting in some areas which is IMO so out of order.People will never agree on this subject ......ever.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:26 pm

fuzzy butt;1028537 wrote: No seriously, if they were feral kills then I would wear them (I don't like the farming pratices of the fur industry ) we already have a bloke here that makes hats from feral cats and sells them. Our akubra hats are made from rabbit fur . It's just utilising a waste product.

Works for me.

I wear leather.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:29 pm

fuzzy butt;1028541 wrote: i bet you do :sneaky:

Admin !

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:18 pm

Here in the States, deer hunting season has just begun. Almost everyone I know has accidently hit a deer with a vehicle. They are everywhere. Hunting is used supposedly to control the population.

But I, personally, hate to see an animal that has died violently. By vehicle, or by weapon. Foxes, deer, ducks..................it's just so sad to me.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:32 pm

along-for-the-ride;1028574 wrote: Here in the States, deer hunting season has just begun. Almost everyone I know has accidently hit a deer with a vehicle. They are everywhere. Hunting is used supposedly to control the population.

But I, personally, hate to see an animal that has died violently. By vehicle, or by weapon. Foxes, deer, ducks..................it's just so sad to me.

I heard a list of states in order of which are most likely to hit a deer. First was something weird like Arkansas.

Anyway Im out in the country driving at night a lot. Its constantly on my mind. Almost hit two the other night, missed them by about ten feet.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:55 pm

I wonder if any of you have found the bone thin starved bodie's of 4 week old fox cubs where their mother didn't come home?

If you look at one of the pic's i posted at the top of the forum list, you will see a black cat eating with a fox.

This is very normal because they do not kill for fun. I have studied, fed, observed and even rescued these animals.

A normal sight for me is to go out into the feild at night with their food, to find next door's tabby cat sitting their waiting as well.

The alpha pack leader, Clarkson, who we named after the **** who deliberately runs over them for fun, could take that cat any time he wanted.

Foxes who do not have the luxery of a twit like me buying chicken for them, have to hunt for food, that is with out question. Extensive research has found, the fox is actually shy and timid.

What happens most of the time, is the fox entering a chicken house, kills as many of the birds as possibele, Not for fun, it is instinct to return after carrying away the first one to his den, to collect the other dead chickens. (They can only carry one at a time in their mouths). More often than not, the owner is alerted from the noise and the fox is unable to return. The owner then finds most of the chickens dead, giving the false impression that it's done it purely for fun.

I as you the same question, i asked a Tory M.P. in the 80's.

If fox hunting was carried out by Hell's angels, wearing leather jackets, swilling beer, on Harley Davidson's, tearing up the countryside...... It would have been banned centurie's ago. Surely????

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:23 pm

fuzzy butt;1028748 wrote: I once saw about four or five cubs huddled in the middle of the highway . The next day they were all flattened carcasses. I think we should thank the truckies for putting them out of their misery and not allowing them to starve to death.

I don't think the Hells Angels existed centuries ago.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or did they?

No, Hells Angels didn't exist years ago..... it was purely a hypothetical scenario. The Tory twit agreed with me at the time.

Tell me, what would you have done, if the cubs huddled in the road, were puppie's or kittens abandoned there??

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:24 pm

It is a very un-known fact that foxes can only re-produce if they are feeding well.

An under-fed fox can not re-produce... another reason for it's survival.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:27 pm

This country made fox hunting illegal due to pressure on the government by an over-whelming majority of the public who find it abhorant.

My point was, if it's been made illegal, why are they still being hunted and idiots flouting the law?

It's illegal to kill children. What if people who hate kids, flouted the law?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:08 pm

fuzzy butt;1028761 wrote: Nothing to be honest ...................now if it was a baby Bilby, Quolle or echdna. then it would be different.

The only reason I would pick up kittens or puppies is so they don't grow to be feral themselves. That's a given. Plus we have the crossing of dogs and foxes here. Making Larger more vicious foxes .

As you know, Britain doesn't have Wallaby or Kangaroo but over the years huge amounts of them have escaped from parks etc and bred in the wild. There are area's where Wallaby are often seen in the wild. The sicko's here hunt then for a laugh as well.

Where i live at the moment, there is Parakeet colonie's in the Gloucestershire countryside. Also with the import of exotic birds of Prey over the year's, they too have escaped and the American 'Harris Hawk' is another one breeding in the wild.

I wonder how the UK will be in say 100 years when the government decides that they too are vermin??

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:05 pm

fuzzy butt;1028520 wrote: Me if it was neccessry. but if you run out over there you can come here and shoot the bloody things. Especially the one who keeps getting in my garage.

some idiot brought foxes here for a bit of sport many moons ago and they are one of the mian reasons for the extinction of some of our small natural wildlife. well them and cats . They had a forum here not that long ago on the radio asking if people would wear fox and cat coats ....................Well I would.

nope, never!

but I will glady wear coats of the ones slaughtering them!

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:02 am

Get a rope! Not for the fox hunters, for the fox huggers.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:12 pm

Odie;1028803 wrote: nope, never!

but I will glady wear coats of the ones slaughtering them!

Well said Odie, you know what???

It takes 10 dumb animals to make one fur coat..... it takes only ONE dumb animal to WEAR IT!!!!!!

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:04 pm

And it only takes one dumb organization to get dumb laws passed that result in certain critters overpopulating the landscape.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:09 pm

hoppy;1030028 wrote: And it only takes one dumb organization to get dumb laws passed that result in certain critters overpopulating the landscape.

Somebody doesn't understand the ecosystem very well.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:25 pm

I don't understand anything well these days. Things used to be simple and made sense. I'll retreat back into the past.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:14 pm

Those foxes real devious you know. They live by their wits.

They are the only specie's who'd have your credit card and be up the shops before your back was turned. :sneaky::sneaky::sneaky:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:19 pm

I always remember my sister staying with me. On the first night, i said to her that i had better start making the jam sanwiches for the foxes who show up around one in the morning.

She just said "Yeah, right Jules".

An hour later, i went to the kitchen and got the bread, spread and jam out and began making them.

She said "OMG, Your actually doing it"

Still in disbelief, she came out with me to watch them eat them....... She thinks i'm mental :wah::wah:

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:40 pm

hoppy;1030028 wrote: And it only takes one dumb organization to get dumb laws passed that result in certain critters overpopulating the landscape.

someone doesn't care about them!

have you seen their babies......they're dying, no food!

mommy has been killed!

....suffering of animals is just uncalled for!

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:17 pm

I know, I run my mouth again. Or I should say keyboard. Fox are beautiful animals. I read a article about a fox who used to kill hunting dogs by dodging in front of a locomotive when being persued. Fox always made it, dogs didn't.