blood transformation in a deceased body...please help

laidbackruby · Post by **laidbackruby** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:56 pm

hihi,

i am writing short story and I remember reading a long time ago about a process the can/does happen when a person dies...

i can't remember the name given to the process but think it starts with the letter L...

i remember at the time interpreting it as follows;

when a body dies, blood pools to the surface of the skin like bruises...

its killing me as i want to use the term in this story i am writing!!

if you know please help,

thanking you in advance,

Lou

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:58 pm

Um, welcome to the garden. Yuck. No really, welcome here.

laidbackruby · Post by **laidbackruby** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:02 pm

thanks

...not really a good topic I know!

laidbackruby · Post by **laidbackruby** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:09 pm

ok, scrap that...in case anyone is wondering;

Livor mortis or postmortem lividity or hypostasis (Latin: livorâ€”bluish color, mortisâ€”of death), one of the signs of death, is a settling of the blood in the lower (dependent) portion of the body, causing a purplish red discoloration of the skin: when the heart is no longer agitating the blood, heavy red blood cells sink through the serum by action of gravity. This discoloration does not occur in the areas of the body that are in contact with the ground or another object, as the capillaries are compressed...

i found it in an old writing journal...

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:18 pm

laidbackruby;1041394 wrote: ok, scrap that...in case anyone is wondering;

Livor mortis or postmortem lividity or hypostasis (Latin: livorâ€”bluish color, mortisâ€”of death), one of the signs of death, is a settling of the blood in the lower (dependent) portion of the body, causing a purplish red discoloration of the skin: when the heart is no longer agitating the blood, heavy red blood cells sink through the serum by action of gravity. This discoloration does not occur in the areas of the body that are in contact with the ground or another object, as the capillaries are compressed...

i found it in an old writing journal...

Livor mortis will clear up during the embalming process as the embalming fluid displaces the body's blood.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:08 am

Hi, LBR. A 'novel' way of introducing yourself.

What's the poll about by the way?

Post by **spot** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:04 am

There are, I suppose, lots of people called Ruby in Queensland. Now I've seen two of them.

Welcome to ForumGarden.

laidbackruby · Post by **laidbackruby** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:45 am

thanks for the welcomes!...i see i was totally naive to how forums work & should have introduced myself first...nothing better though then to use the dead to introduce the living!

Only genius has a new word for a new thought

-- Heinrich Heine

laidbackruby · Post by **laidbackruby** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:53 am

OpenMind;1041457 wrote: Hi, LBR. A 'novel' way of introducing yourself.

What's the poll about by the way?

It ties in with what I'm currently working on...

The novella is a work of contrast, not all people will feel guilt, not all people will feel hope, some will ultimately not care; originally my aim is to show that people have lost interest in the dead and have no empathy for the living...in this fiction anyway.

Post by **Betty Boop** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:03 am

laidbackruby;1041503 wrote: It ties in with what I'm currently working on...

The novella is a work of contrast, not all people will feel guilt, not all people will feel hope, some will ultimately not care; originally my aim is to show that people have lost interest in the dead and have no empathy for the living...in this fiction anyway.

That sounds interesting, very philosophical. :-6

laidbackruby · Post by **laidbackruby** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:16 am

fuzzy butt;1041507 wrote: that's a very shallow reasoning ................and you know it. **** you wanna come down here at the moment of drought ? or do you want to come down here when the bushfires are raging!???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!! don't talk about hope and guilt and care ..............Are you actually in Australia? Cause if you were you would have a plefera of material.....why don't you know this?

hi fuzzy butt,

i am from the country, a redneck from the queensland bush. I spent my childhood watching my family work the pigs until my uncle got septicemia, work the dairy cattle until the farm was sold. my father worked as a stock agent for many years; the last couple of years being the hardest as he saw his friends and then ultimately himself lose their jobs. I don't write this for competition but so you can see that I am not naive to what you must be going through, if you are from a farm. Myself as a fiction writer, if I sought to write about Australians then yes, I would have a 'plethora' of material, however my subject matter is not Australian based.

I'm writing a radical fiction and my chosen subject matter has arisen from current and past pograms currently happening or that have happened around the world. Whereas I feel for those Australians and my family that still live out bush, right now, I'm writing about a world consciousness of which I'm sorry to say there is a vast confusion of the terms hope, guilt and care, in regards to my subject matter that is.

I just have to say, I've no interest in wasting time for arguments sake on pure confusion but hopeful that you can understand that I don't feel guilty that you got the wrong end of the stick, rather I just hope things get better for you guys down there.

thanks everyone, was an interesting afternoon. Back to the writing, the fiction writing that is.

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Post by **spot** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:16 am

fuzzy butt;1041507 wrote: that's a very shallow reasoningPolitely with the newbies. You know better than that. They're not scalps.

Chezzie · Post by **Chezzie** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:22 am

Hi Laidbackruby

Wont pretend I have a clue what your talking about but its lovely to have a new member, and a interesting and intelligent one at that..

Welcome to the garden:-6

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:28 am

laidbackruby;1041503 wrote: It ties in with what I'm currently working on...

The novella is a work of contrast, not all people will feel guilt, not all people will feel hope, some will ultimately not care; originally my aim is to show that people have lost interest in the dead and have no empathy for the living...in this fiction anyway.

That doesn't really give me enough information to choose an option. What is your novella about, what is its subject matter?

In this country (the UK), for instance, there is an interest in genealogy which is shared by many people. As these people find out about their ancestors, they find an appreciation for their relatives' way of life. One result of this is that it also gives them a new appreciation of their own lives by comparison.

Notwithstanding, this only shows an interest in dead relatives. You may be referring to something different to this.

mrsK · Post by **mrsK** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:52 pm

Hello & Welcome to the garden :-6

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:26 am

fuzzy butt;1042797 wrote: Hmmm you're right. I just read that back and it has come across a little strong . sorry ruby that wasn't written how it has come across................forgot the smilies .

Note to self: Use smilies:-5:-5

That's all very well for you to say. I bet you don't have to copy and paste them:(