United Nations Bankrolled Latest Anti-israel Propaganda
BY JACOB GERSHMAN - Staff Reporter of the Sun
August 17, 2005
The United Nations bankrolled the production of thousands of banners, bumper stickers, mugs, and T-shirts bearing the slogan "Today Gaza and Tomorrow the West Bank and Jerusalem," which have been widely distributed to Palestinian Arabs in the Gaza Strip, according to a U.N. official.
The U.N. support of the Palestinian Authority's propaganda operation in the midst of the Israeli evacuation of Jewish settlers from the Gaza Strip has provoked outrage from Israeli and Jewish leaders, who are blaming Turtle Bay for propagating an inflammatory message that they say encourages Palestinian Arab violence.
"The intifada worked. That's contextually what this message is saying," the director of U.N. affairs for the Washington-based Jewish organization B'nai Brith, Amy Goldstein, said.
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United Nations Bankrolled Latest Anti-israel Propaganda
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Good for the UN!!! Finally something productive from those bureaucrats.
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MicahLorain wrote: Good for the UN!!! Finally something productive from those bureaucrats.
They did need to do someting productive. This isn't what I would call productive unless of course you take flobstock's view. It does help point out that the deck is stacked against Israel.
They did need to do someting productive. This isn't what I would call productive unless of course you take flobstock's view. It does help point out that the deck is stacked against Israel.
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You don't actually believe it do you?
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gmc wrote: You don't actually believe it do you?
why not?
why not?
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gmc wrote: You don't actually believe it do you?
I like AC's question. I think I'll just see how you respond to him before I say any more.
I like AC's question. I think I'll just see how you respond to him before I say any more.
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posted by accountable
why not?
posted by clint
The United Nations bankrolled the production of thousands of banners, bumper stickers, mugs, and T-shirts bearing the slogan "Today Gaza and Tomorrow the West Bank and Jerusalem," which have been widely distributed to Palestinian Arabs in the Gaza Strip, according to a U.N. official.
The U.N. support of the Palestinian Authority's propaganda operation in the midst of the Israeli evacuation of Jewish settlers from the Gaza Strip has provoked outrage from Israeli and Jewish leaders, who are blaming Turtle Bay for propagating an inflammatory message that they say encourages Palestinian Arab violence.
"The intifada worked. That's contextually what this message is saying," the director of U.N. affairs for the Washington-based Jewish organization B'nai Brith, Amy Goldstein, said.
Really clear unbiased reporting in that is. Were the slogans in English?
Why bother with such a trivial thing? Producing banners and bumper stickers is hardly a major problem nowadays anyone with a half decent computer and printer can turn them out by the hundreds they're not that expensive or hard to produce. Same with t shirts and mugs. As a propoganda tool it's pretty naff.
The idea that anyone thinks t shirts and bumper stickers will be more effective is ludicrous.
This withdrawal is the most positive thing that has happened in th middle east in decades-if thepalestinians can just keep control of their extremists who want warfare and the israelis likewise with theirs who would like the same modearates on both sides might have a chance.
Personally I think religious fanatics of all types should be put somewhere secluded and given clubs so they can beat the crap out of each other and stop trying to drag everyone else in to their ridiculous conflicts.
some different perspectives for you
http://www.guardian.co.uk/weblog/specia ... 12,00.html
why not?
posted by clint
The United Nations bankrolled the production of thousands of banners, bumper stickers, mugs, and T-shirts bearing the slogan "Today Gaza and Tomorrow the West Bank and Jerusalem," which have been widely distributed to Palestinian Arabs in the Gaza Strip, according to a U.N. official.
The U.N. support of the Palestinian Authority's propaganda operation in the midst of the Israeli evacuation of Jewish settlers from the Gaza Strip has provoked outrage from Israeli and Jewish leaders, who are blaming Turtle Bay for propagating an inflammatory message that they say encourages Palestinian Arab violence.
"The intifada worked. That's contextually what this message is saying," the director of U.N. affairs for the Washington-based Jewish organization B'nai Brith, Amy Goldstein, said.
Really clear unbiased reporting in that is. Were the slogans in English?
Why bother with such a trivial thing? Producing banners and bumper stickers is hardly a major problem nowadays anyone with a half decent computer and printer can turn them out by the hundreds they're not that expensive or hard to produce. Same with t shirts and mugs. As a propoganda tool it's pretty naff.
The idea that anyone thinks t shirts and bumper stickers will be more effective is ludicrous.
This withdrawal is the most positive thing that has happened in th middle east in decades-if thepalestinians can just keep control of their extremists who want warfare and the israelis likewise with theirs who would like the same modearates on both sides might have a chance.
Personally I think religious fanatics of all types should be put somewhere secluded and given clubs so they can beat the crap out of each other and stop trying to drag everyone else in to their ridiculous conflicts.
some different perspectives for you
http://www.guardian.co.uk/weblog/specia ... 12,00.html
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gmc wrote: Personally I think religious fanatics of all types should be put somewhere secluded and given clubs so they can beat the crap out of each other and stop trying to drag everyone else in to their ridiculous conflicts.
Don't let that idea get out or we'll be seeing it next season on TV. "The new REAL Survivor Show" :wah:
But don't you think it's significant if the UN is promoting anti-Jewish sentiment?
Don't let that idea get out or we'll be seeing it next season on TV. "The new REAL Survivor Show" :wah:
But don't you think it's significant if the UN is promoting anti-Jewish sentiment?
United Nations Bankrolled Latest Anti-israel Propaganda
If you know anything about group dynamics you should be careful about eliminating the extremists. Because every group has its extremes, one day, by the process of elimination, the group (humanity) will consider you to be one (extremist).
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Accountable wrote: Don't let that idea get out or we'll be seeing it next season on TV. "The new REAL Survivor Show" :wah:
But don't you think it's significant if the UN is promoting anti-Jewish sentiment?
Not if you take a hard cold clinical look at the UN as it really is.
But don't you think it's significant if the UN is promoting anti-Jewish sentiment?
Not if you take a hard cold clinical look at the UN as it really is.
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golem wrote: Not if you take a hard cold clinical look at the UN as it really is.
You mean it's not significant? :-2
Explain, please.
You mean it's not significant? :-2
Explain, please.
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Accountable wrote: You mean it's not significant? :-2
Explain, please.
The United Nations is no longer the credible forum of civilised nations that it once came close to being.
Today it is nothing short of a stock market where the stock being traded is support in the chamber in return for national or even personal gain. Influence is traded for gain.
It is past it’s sell-by date, it is corrupt, it is infiltrated with interests that run counter to the best interests of the evolved nations of the world, and should be disbanded and replaced with an international forum comprising nations that are both civilised and above all else secular in their forms of government.
The very idea of having a forum comprising of all nations of the world set on the basis of equality one with another is frankly ridiculous. There are many that are quite honestly not yet socially or ideologically evolved beyond simply being tribes.
Explain, please.
The United Nations is no longer the credible forum of civilised nations that it once came close to being.
Today it is nothing short of a stock market where the stock being traded is support in the chamber in return for national or even personal gain. Influence is traded for gain.
It is past it’s sell-by date, it is corrupt, it is infiltrated with interests that run counter to the best interests of the evolved nations of the world, and should be disbanded and replaced with an international forum comprising nations that are both civilised and above all else secular in their forms of government.
The very idea of having a forum comprising of all nations of the world set on the basis of equality one with another is frankly ridiculous. There are many that are quite honestly not yet socially or ideologically evolved beyond simply being tribes.
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golem wrote: The United Nations is no longer the credible forum of civilised nations that it once came close to being.
Today it is nothing short of a stock market where the stock being traded is support in the chamber in return for national or even personal gain. Influence is traded for gain.
It is past it’s sell-by date, it is corrupt, it is infiltrated with interests that run counter to the best interests of the evolved nations of the world, and should be disbanded and replaced with an international forum comprising nations that are both civilised and above all else secular in their forms of government.
The very idea of having a forum comprising of all nations of the world set on the basis of equality one with another is frankly ridiculous. There are many that are quite honestly not yet socially or ideologically evolved beyond simply being tribes.
I agree with all that I put in this color. That doesn't make them insignificant, only dangerous.
The part in blue is just not smart. It would be a giant step backward to segregate the theocracies even more, giving them only themselves to ally with and learn from.
Ever pack charcoal in a tight pile? The fire inside becomes much hotter, more intense.
Today it is nothing short of a stock market where the stock being traded is support in the chamber in return for national or even personal gain. Influence is traded for gain.
It is past it’s sell-by date, it is corrupt, it is infiltrated with interests that run counter to the best interests of the evolved nations of the world, and should be disbanded and replaced with an international forum comprising nations that are both civilised and above all else secular in their forms of government.
The very idea of having a forum comprising of all nations of the world set on the basis of equality one with another is frankly ridiculous. There are many that are quite honestly not yet socially or ideologically evolved beyond simply being tribes.
I agree with all that I put in this color. That doesn't make them insignificant, only dangerous.
The part in blue is just not smart. It would be a giant step backward to segregate the theocracies even more, giving them only themselves to ally with and learn from.
Ever pack charcoal in a tight pile? The fire inside becomes much hotter, more intense.
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Accountable wrote: I agree with all that I put in this color. That doesn't make them insignificant, only dangerous.
The part in blue is just not smart. It would be a giant step backward to segregate the theocracies even more, giving them only themselves to ally with and learn from.
Ever pack charcoal in a tight pile? The fire inside becomes much hotter, more intense.
Yes, the fire gets hotter but it is also easier to control and extinguish, if by no other means that the withdrawal of the necessities of combustion i.e. apply serious and meaningful sanctions and restrictions. This is not about race, this is about societies and ideologies.
I’ve spent many years traveling the world as part of my work and as a result I’ve lived in or cheek by jowl with many people of differing ‘cultures’.
One of the many things that I’ve learned is that not all ‘cultures’ are equal and that in fact some are significantly better in terms of humanity, civilisation, and basic decency than others. Those that are based on Western values are far and away the best in every respect.
To use the standards and morality of a good, decent, evolved, and enlightened society when dealing with a degenerate or primitive society is of no use whatsoever. In fact it is counterproductive. At best well intentioned gentleness will fail to be understood and more likely will be seen not as compassion but, just as in the case of compromise in negotiations, as weakness.
Modern man has evolved as a result of survival of the fittest. To now encourage the least fit actually runs counter to the very principles that caused us to reach the state that we have.
It’s not a thing that people from good and decent society find a comfortable concept, but unless it is once more bought into then we will regress to primitive social savagery as the savage societies become influential.
The concept of keeping ones friends close but ones enemies closer is wrong. Instead keep ones friends close and ones enemies under firm control.
The part in blue is just not smart. It would be a giant step backward to segregate the theocracies even more, giving them only themselves to ally with and learn from.
Ever pack charcoal in a tight pile? The fire inside becomes much hotter, more intense.
Yes, the fire gets hotter but it is also easier to control and extinguish, if by no other means that the withdrawal of the necessities of combustion i.e. apply serious and meaningful sanctions and restrictions. This is not about race, this is about societies and ideologies.
I’ve spent many years traveling the world as part of my work and as a result I’ve lived in or cheek by jowl with many people of differing ‘cultures’.
One of the many things that I’ve learned is that not all ‘cultures’ are equal and that in fact some are significantly better in terms of humanity, civilisation, and basic decency than others. Those that are based on Western values are far and away the best in every respect.
To use the standards and morality of a good, decent, evolved, and enlightened society when dealing with a degenerate or primitive society is of no use whatsoever. In fact it is counterproductive. At best well intentioned gentleness will fail to be understood and more likely will be seen not as compassion but, just as in the case of compromise in negotiations, as weakness.
Modern man has evolved as a result of survival of the fittest. To now encourage the least fit actually runs counter to the very principles that caused us to reach the state that we have.
It’s not a thing that people from good and decent society find a comfortable concept, but unless it is once more bought into then we will regress to primitive social savagery as the savage societies become influential.
The concept of keeping ones friends close but ones enemies closer is wrong. Instead keep ones friends close and ones enemies under firm control.