i feel so evil

Post by **spot** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:50 am

jimbo;1069176 wrote: and what are your thoughts on this practice

You can console yourself knowing that he's now unfit to be a religious sacrifice, so no nutter's going to grab him off the pavement to placate his vengeful deity with.

Oh - he can't convert to Judaism now either.

Did they use a knife, a rubber band or two half-bricks?

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:14 am

HI JImbo:D how old is your litlle girlie doggie? just asking cos you may wish you had her done instead when she starts going in to season. when we first got our Sheila she went in to season straight away, and im not kidding you would think we had been slaughtering chickens all over the house:wah: we had to put decorating sheets down all over, and she was a little terror if she saw another dog:sneaky: mind when we did get her spayed, we nearly lost her cos something went wrong and she was bleeding internaly, had to rush her to the emergency vets the same night and she had to have another op which was dangerous,, she pulled through ok though, and its not normal for things to go wrong with such a straight forward op as that

hope i have'nt put you off:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:35 am

Hi everyone, it is recomended that Poppy gets done 2 months after her first season, as blood can engorge the tubes and it can lead to complications, we had to get Alfie done as I think Poppy will go into season soon and we couldn't risk her getting pregnant as I wouldn't be able to give the puppies away.

Alfie is having his operation this morning and he is going to get chipped at the same time, I have also asked them to check his bloods as he is not the greatest eater so I just want to rule any bad things out. Truth of it is I think he knows if he holds out I'll cook him a roast dinner, he loves them

Poppy has her first check with our vets at 4 and we will collect Alfie after, the day is going so slowwwww.

Kaz, I am glad Shelia was ok, I never 'got' the animal thing but I truly love them as if they are my babies :rolleyes: 12 months ago if I'd of heard someone say that I'd of thought they were crazy :wah:

pinkchick · Post by **pinkchick** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:44 am

jimbo;1069176 wrote: i have just left alfie at the vets ,he is going to be castrated

we have another puppy a bitch and we could not keep a whole litter of puppies nor could bare to give them away

alfie is the best natured ,best behaved dog i have ever seen i feel terrible that a dog as good as him has had the chance of breeding fantastic pups taken away from him by us

how did you guys feel when you had your dogs done

and what are your thoughts on this practice

Jimbo,

My dog Barney had the chop a few weeks ago. We felt awful doing it but unfortunately he was trying to hump anything that moved ... including my leg

We thought maybe it would change his wee personality but actually he is still a sweet natured, loving and somewhat cheekie wee chap.

It doesn't seem to have annoyed him at all:D:-4

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:46 am

pinkchick;1069190 wrote: Jimbo,

My dog Barney had the chop a few weeks ago. We felt awful doing it but unfortunately he was trying to hump anything that moved ... including my leg

We thought maybe it would change his wee personality but actually he is still a sweet natured, loving and somewhat cheekie wee chap.

It doesn't seem to have annoyed him at all:D:-4

Thats good to hear cause someone said to us it can change their personailty and hand on heart Alfie is the most amazing little fella :-4

It was just seeing him trying to get out the door back to us that was really upseting:(

pinkchick · Post by **pinkchick** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:54 am

SuzyB;1069192 wrote: Thats good to hear cause someone said to us it can change their personailty and hand on heart Alfie is the most amazing little fella :-4

It was just seeing him trying to get out the door back to us that was really upseting:(

It breaks your heart when they get upset like that:-4

We were told by loads of people that he would calm down and totally change.

He has calmed down a little but he's still the same bonkers Barney:D:D

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:57 am

SuzyB;1069188 wrote: Hi everyone, it is recomended that Poppy gets done 2 months after her first season, as blood can engorge the tubes and it can lead to complications, we had to get Alfie done as I think Poppy will go into season soon and we couldn't risk her getting pregnant as I wouldn't be able to give the puppies away.

Alfie is having his operation this morning and he is going to get chipped at the same time, I have also asked them to check his bloods as he is not the greatest eater so I just want to rule any bad things out. Truth of it is I think he knows if he holds out I'll cook him a roast dinner, he loves them

Poppy has her first check with our vets at 4 and we will collect Alfie after, the day is going so slowwwww.

Kaz, I am glad Shelia was ok, I never 'got' the animal thing but I truly love them as if they are my babies :rolleyes: 12 months ago if I'd of heard someone say that I'd of thought they were crazy :wah:

oh yes we were told to wait till at least two months after her season too:) but i see what you mean about her going in to season first,, would be a nightmare keeping them apart. I think the main way the personality changes is to make them less aggressive as i have heard of people getting them done for this purpose,,, but saying that others say it dont make any difference to their personality,,,maybe it just coincides with their age and the different phases they go through ,,(yes just like kids:D)

and suzy,, our Sheila is the same as far as food is concerned,, i have had to tell hubs to stop just feeding her treats every time she looks at him:rolleyes: she would live on them rather than eat her food,,, she actually dont eat a lot for a staffie

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:57 am

Vets just called, operation went well but Alfie really upset I could hear him crying in the background

-1:-1

I was collecting him at 4 after Poppys appointment but he is so upset we can collect him at 1, now hopefully Jim will answer his bloody phone :-5

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:59 am

SuzyB;1069200 wrote: Vets just called, operation went well but Alfie really upset I could hear him crying in the background

-1:-1

I was collecting him at 4 after Poppys appointment but he is so upset we can collect him at 1, now hopefully Jim will answer his bloody phone :-5

aww bless him:-4(alfie i mean not jim):yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl what kind of dog is poppy suzy?

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:03 am

kazalala;1069199 wrote: oh yes we were told to wait till at least two months after her season too:) but i see what you mean about her going in to season first,, would be a nightmare keeping them apart. I think the main way the personality changes is to make them less aggressive as i have heard of people getting them done for this purpose,,, but saying that others say it dont make any difference to their personality,,,maybe it just coincides with their age and the different phases they go through ,,(yes just like kids

and suzy,, our Sheila is the same as far as food is concerned,, i have had to tell hubs to stop just feeding her treats every time she looks at him:rolleyes: she would live on them rather than eat her food,,, she actually dont eat a lot for a staffie

Thats what it is like here, everyone who comes in this house knows where the treats are and they get them to give to the dogs, Alfie would live on them now Poppy eats the treats as well as her food and Alfies :wah:

kazalala;1069201 wrote: aww bless him:-4(alfie i mean not jim):yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl what kind of dog is poppy suzy?

Alfie is a springer spaniel cross collie and Poppy is a cocker spaniel cross collie :-4

pinkchick · Post by **pinkchick** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:07 am

SuzyB;1069200 wrote: Vets just called, operation went well but Alfie really upset I could hear him crying in the background

-1:-1

I was collecting him at 4 after Poppys appointment but he is so upset we can collect him at 1, now hopefully Jim will answer his bloody phone :-5

Bless the wee soul - he just wants home :-4:-4

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:44 am

SuzyB;1069206 wrote: Thats what it is like here, everyone who comes in this house knows where the treats are and they get them to give to the dogs, Alfie would live on them now Poppy eats the treats as well as her food and Alfies :wah:

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl you know you shouldnt just feed them treats:sneaky: ye have to make them do somthing to get a treat like a reward,, even if its just "sit" or "down" or "high five":D:wah: thing is I started giving sheila a treat when she walked nice beside me and now,,, she still likes to walk ahead but dont pull so much( well not all the time) but then every so often she comes and walks nice beside me,,, so nice she is almost dancing along:yh_rotfl so really she is deciding when she should have a treat:yh_rotfl

Alfie is a springer spaniel cross collie and Poppy is a cocker spaniel cross collie :-4

awww where are the Pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:58 am

aww, hugs for Alfie! :-4

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:23 am

jimbo;1069176 wrote: i have just left alfie at the vets ,he is going to be castrated

we have another puppy a bitch and we could not keep a whole litter of puppies nor could bare to give them away

alfie is the best natured ,best behaved dog i have ever seen i feel terrible that a dog as good as him has had the chance of breeding fantastic pups taken away from him by us

how did you guys feel when you had your dogs done

and what are your thoughts on this practice

Our dog was a rescue dog which we got at eight weeks old-we were the third owners. It is one of the conditions of the dog's trust that any dogs get castrated and bitches speyed.

Realistically any pups he fathered would either get drowned at birth or dumped in the dog's home since he's a mutt. He appears to be a cross between a dalmation and a collie. Or as I like to think of it the love child of a pedigree dalmatian princess and a bit of rough from the farm.

Know what you mean though, but realistically unless you are prepared to accept the responsibility of unwanted pups you need to do it. You will need to do the bitch as well unless you are intending to breed her-once is all it takes.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:40 am

jimbo;1069176 wrote: i have just left alfie at the vets ,he is going to be castrated

we have another puppy a bitch and we could not keep a whole litter of puppies nor could bare to give them away

alfie is the best natured ,best behaved dog i have ever seen i feel terrible that a dog as good as him has had the chance of breeding fantastic pups taken away from him by us

how did you guys feel when you had your dogs done

and what are your thoughts on this practice

Aw hunny! I know just how you feel! We had our mog done when he was 6 months old. But since it was his sister he was living with....well, we couldnt have any of THAT in the house now!

Our mog, Clyde, has stayed an incredible young kittenish personality even tho he is 3 now. He stills plays fetch and everything! But we refuse to have our female done as it's such an intrusive procedure, for WHAT? Our own convienience? They are house cats, so will live nice long moggy lives. Clyde doesnt miss his bits, so all is well. Good luck sweety. It will be okay.

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:58 pm

poor little fella

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:46 pm

Poppy is booked in to get done in the morning, the vets said that if she gets done before her 1st season she stands less chance of cancer in the mamory glands, we talked and think it's better that they are both poorly together, Jim had to sneak out the house with Poppy for her walks today.

Alfie is not great, one of us is going to sleep in the same room as him tonight, good news is that he has had a little food and water.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:48 am

SuzyB;1069712 wrote: Poppy is booked in to get done in the morning, the vets said that if she gets done before her 1st season she stands less chance of cancer in the mamory glands, we talked and think it's better that they are both poorly together, Jim had to sneak out the house with Poppy for her walks today.

Alfie is not great, one of us is going to sleep in the same room as him tonight, good news is that he has had a little food and water.

aw hope he is ok Suzy:-4 ye it might be a good idea for Pppy to be done now as well,,, may be easier if she hasnt had a season yet

My Sheila had a phnatom pregnancy after she was done:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:07 am

gmc;1069289 wrote: Our dog was a rescue dog which we got at eight weeks old-we were the third owners. It is one of the conditions of the dog's trust that any dogs get castrated and bitches speyed.

Realistically any pups he fathered would either get drowned at birth or dumped in the dog's home since he's a mutt. He appears to be a cross between a dalmation and a collie. Or as I like to think of it the love child of a pedigree dalmatian princess and a bit of rough from the farm.

Know what you mean though, but realistically unless you are prepared to accept the responsibility of unwanted pups you need to do it. You will need to do the bitch as well unless you are intending to breed her-once is all it takes.

After much debate in the Oscar household, we have decided that puppy 'Rosie' will be allowed to have one litter. this is not something we decide lightly. Over the years all of my bitches have had one litter at least and we find that it makes them a better tempered dog. We would not do it unless we are sure there are homes lined up for them. She's still too young but when she gets to about two tears old, we will have her mated.

We always vet our new owners and do two home checks, one un-announced and keep in touch with them.

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:11 am

how is the little nutless fella tonight

shelbell · Post by **shelbell** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:48 am

My big boy (140pounds) hasn't been fixed. I've heard they mellow out a little, but he's mellow enough! :yh_rotfl

My baby girl (75lbs) was fixed at 6months.

I had hubby "sprayed" 14 years ago and it didn't do a thing for his personality!! :-5:-5:-5

shelbell · Post by **shelbell** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:50 am

Oh, and a PS.....you ARE evil!!! :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

shelbell · Post by **shelbell** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:17 am

jimbo;1070879 wrote: i think being married to you just zombiefied him :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

the sad thing is they are both fantastic dogs but they are cross breeds colly cross springers

and if you had a litter of pups by them no one would want them and we could not possibly keep all of them ... then the only option would be to have them put down .... which we could not bare to do so this was the only option really

its a damn shame that people cant get past the pedigree thing ,why spend hundreds on a pure breed dog that is interbred and has nervouse disposition of a housewife with pms whose husband run off with the baby sitter and has ran out of prozac

when you can get a lovely dog great with kids for nothing :-6:-6

Yeah, I'm enough to zombify anyone!

i agree with the whole "getting them fixed" thing. Male dogs have a much higher chance of testicular cancer after age 5. Females have higher chances of something too, but I can't remember what.

Having a litter of non pure breed pups would cost you quite a bit too. You'd have to make sure they have all their shots, etc, before you can adopt them out. Plus we'd be the same as you and Suzy...once the puppies were born, it would be so hard to get rid of them, if not impossible.

shelbell · Post by **shelbell** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:28 am

jimbo;1070900 wrote: its a shame you cant just fly in for the fg meetup in london in jan me and suze would love to meet you and flopper

YouTube - Does your dog bite?

That would be a blast! I could never fly tho, never been on a plane, never will. Maybe I could raise some money to get a cruise over there....do you know it Titanic is available around that time??

dat isnot my duig!!