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Yeah, the french... dirty smelly cowardly, arrogant and thank god we have an English channel between us.
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oscar;1083761 wrote: Yeah, the french... dirty smelly cowardly, arrogant and thank god we have an English channel between us.
Oscar: I am part French.
Just kidding....just kidding
Oscar: I am part French.
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Jester;1083691 wrote: I agree with you- my feelign is that I have to sift through some posts on almost every thread to avoid the pitfall od another anti-americna discussion in order to comment on the portion of the thread I'd like to comment on, its a 'here we go again moment'.
Now I am pereceived by some as Anti-British since I came out angry attacking the ungrearfulness that I was hearing from the brits concerning our pervious assistance in wars.
So, I did my bes tto apologize for my angry posts but I havent really changed my mind on the subject. I still heard the ungreatfullness, when I know we helped the brits in WW1 and WW2- that kind of ticked me off. So flash forward, the birts laergely dont agreew ith american forign policy, why does the current issue reflect back to ungreatfullness (by a few) to WW2? Thats an exampleof anti-americanism I percieve here.
When you have to come here and at every point you feel you have to strive with someone over your nationality, then it gets pointelss to want to come here.
Realizing of course Spot and I would go at it no matter where we were and I fully accept that as a unique point of FG, and am not pulling that into consideration here.
"Here we go again moment" Yes Yes I know those moments well.
Now I am pereceived by some as Anti-British since I came out angry attacking the ungrearfulness that I was hearing from the brits concerning our pervious assistance in wars.
So, I did my bes tto apologize for my angry posts but I havent really changed my mind on the subject. I still heard the ungreatfullness, when I know we helped the brits in WW1 and WW2- that kind of ticked me off. So flash forward, the birts laergely dont agreew ith american forign policy, why does the current issue reflect back to ungreatfullness (by a few) to WW2? Thats an exampleof anti-americanism I percieve here.
When you have to come here and at every point you feel you have to strive with someone over your nationality, then it gets pointelss to want to come here.
Realizing of course Spot and I would go at it no matter where we were and I fully accept that as a unique point of FG, and am not pulling that into consideration here.
"Here we go again moment" Yes Yes I know those moments well.
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America is losing the respect of the rest of the world, and being blamed (correctly or incorrectly) for the problems that folks in other countries are experiencing (e.g. the banking crisis). Get real ~ it is fact that the greedy, American, capitalist bankers had a major hand in this disaster, and we (America) are throwing MORE money at them, for them to fritter away with even more corrupt schemes?
i can sort of understand those folks getting angry with us folks, for putting up with everything our government is doing.
Add to the above the absolute disaster it is going to be if we allow our Constitution to be ripped apart, spit upon, and then completely rewritten by these cheaters and liars that we've elected to power.
The thing is, a LOT of the rest of the world depends on us ~ if for nothing else, to retain our equilibrium, and remain a stable society.
Right now, if you think we're a little scared? Try to imagine the rest of the world...
That's not a very good "apology," but i'm a libra and have a bad habit of trying to imagine what other folks, in other countries, must be feeling. (i'm a Navy brat, so i've had experrience living in other countries, and in melting into other cultures.)
i might could be wrong here, but we're ALL a little nervous about the things going on right now, and our stress seems to be showing.
Just my 2¢ :-6
i can sort of understand those folks getting angry with us folks, for putting up with everything our government is doing.
Add to the above the absolute disaster it is going to be if we allow our Constitution to be ripped apart, spit upon, and then completely rewritten by these cheaters and liars that we've elected to power.
The thing is, a LOT of the rest of the world depends on us ~ if for nothing else, to retain our equilibrium, and remain a stable society.
Right now, if you think we're a little scared? Try to imagine the rest of the world...
That's not a very good "apology," but i'm a libra and have a bad habit of trying to imagine what other folks, in other countries, must be feeling. (i'm a Navy brat, so i've had experrience living in other countries, and in melting into other cultures.)
i might could be wrong here, but we're ALL a little nervous about the things going on right now, and our stress seems to be showing.
Just my 2¢ :-6
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oscar;1083607 wrote: I'm not going to protest weather i am anti-american or not... I don't have to.
There are many many threads on here (mostly posted by myself) about British politics or Gordon Brown. Most times i post them i ask for American's to join in because it seems that you steer clear of them and i only end up talking to the leprechaun in Ireland or the Haggis botherer in Scotland.
I would like to hear what America thinks of the way our country is going also but it's only a handfull that come on these threads.
If this forum has been damaged, it is down to Tossers like Touchstone deliberately flaming and that's why he got banned.
Oscar? (aka, MRS. Gordon Brown :yh_rotfl )
i've seen several of your posts, asking us into y'all's discussions, and at some point, if i can EVER catch up with our political ins-and-outs, i would love to join you, and sincerely do thank you for the invite!
There are many many threads on here (mostly posted by myself) about British politics or Gordon Brown. Most times i post them i ask for American's to join in because it seems that you steer clear of them and i only end up talking to the leprechaun in Ireland or the Haggis botherer in Scotland.
I would like to hear what America thinks of the way our country is going also but it's only a handfull that come on these threads.
If this forum has been damaged, it is down to Tossers like Touchstone deliberately flaming and that's why he got banned.
Oscar? (aka, MRS. Gordon Brown :yh_rotfl )
i've seen several of your posts, asking us into y'all's discussions, and at some point, if i can EVER catch up with our political ins-and-outs, i would love to join you, and sincerely do thank you for the invite!
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Fyrenza;1083866 wrote: America is losing the respect of the rest of the world, and being blamed (correctly or incorrectly) for the problems that folks in other countries are experiencing (e.g. the banking crisis). Get real ~ it is fact that the greedy, American, capitalist bankers had a major hand in this disaster, and we (America) are throwing MORE money at them, for them to fritter away with even more corrupt schemes?
i can sort of understand those folks getting angry with us folks, for putting up with everything our government is doing.
Add to the above the absolute disaster it is going to be if we allow our Constitution to be ripped apart, spit upon, and then completely rewritten by these cheaters and liars that we've elected to power.
The thing is, a LOT of the rest of the world depends on us ~ if for nothing else, to retain our equilibrium, and remain a stable society.
Right now, if you think we're a little scared? Try to imagine the rest of the world...
That's not a very good "apology," but i'm a libra and have a bad habit of trying to imagine what other folks, in other countries, must be feeling. (i'm a Navy brat, so i've had experrience living in other countries, and in melting into other cultures.)
i might could be wrong here, but we're ALL a little nervous about the things going on right now, and our stress seems to be showing.
Just my 2¢ :-6
Pretty good point. Everyone is scared of what the future holds. Americans are just as scared as anyone else about this. I have friends in other countries and yes they are scared too. In fact I just talked to one of them yesterday. I have also received many emails from friends with regard to "what will happen". And we are also very angry about money being given to bankers....and now the car companies. Well that one still has to be voted on, but it looks like a go. None of them should be getting a penny...none of them. Many of us spent hours emailing and calling our legislators about these bailouts...telling them no. They threw it in our faces. Think we arent pissed? We are...believe me.
You are a little scared? Everyone I know is a lot scared. But however, though we do elect officials, they do things behind our back without our knowlegde. They pass bills with additions at the last minute. Sometimes we dont know till it is done. So all the anger toward ordinary Americans is not really fair as we would not wish this to be happening. Furthermore, this goes way back. Regulations and controls that were in place have been loosened little by little over the years allowing bankers too much freedom and not enough oversight. Abuse towards Americans is not going to change anything. And other governments are at fault as well. They operated within the same financial system for years and years that this has been happening. They knew what was going on too, but they were all too busy making money at our expense.
So I can understand the stress angle, but not the anger angle. They should be angry with their own governments as we are with ours. They should be angry with their own bankers as we are with ours. No one forced them to play the game. And one more thing. Many Americans who are retired have lost so much they are on the edge of becoming homeless. All their life they did the right thing...saved...planned....and poof gone in a moment. There are many ready to retire who have suddenly lost their entire pension. So anger at ordinary Americans is misplaced.
i can sort of understand those folks getting angry with us folks, for putting up with everything our government is doing.
Add to the above the absolute disaster it is going to be if we allow our Constitution to be ripped apart, spit upon, and then completely rewritten by these cheaters and liars that we've elected to power.
The thing is, a LOT of the rest of the world depends on us ~ if for nothing else, to retain our equilibrium, and remain a stable society.
Right now, if you think we're a little scared? Try to imagine the rest of the world...
That's not a very good "apology," but i'm a libra and have a bad habit of trying to imagine what other folks, in other countries, must be feeling. (i'm a Navy brat, so i've had experrience living in other countries, and in melting into other cultures.)
i might could be wrong here, but we're ALL a little nervous about the things going on right now, and our stress seems to be showing.
Just my 2¢ :-6
Pretty good point. Everyone is scared of what the future holds. Americans are just as scared as anyone else about this. I have friends in other countries and yes they are scared too. In fact I just talked to one of them yesterday. I have also received many emails from friends with regard to "what will happen". And we are also very angry about money being given to bankers....and now the car companies. Well that one still has to be voted on, but it looks like a go. None of them should be getting a penny...none of them. Many of us spent hours emailing and calling our legislators about these bailouts...telling them no. They threw it in our faces. Think we arent pissed? We are...believe me.
You are a little scared? Everyone I know is a lot scared. But however, though we do elect officials, they do things behind our back without our knowlegde. They pass bills with additions at the last minute. Sometimes we dont know till it is done. So all the anger toward ordinary Americans is not really fair as we would not wish this to be happening. Furthermore, this goes way back. Regulations and controls that were in place have been loosened little by little over the years allowing bankers too much freedom and not enough oversight. Abuse towards Americans is not going to change anything. And other governments are at fault as well. They operated within the same financial system for years and years that this has been happening. They knew what was going on too, but they were all too busy making money at our expense.
So I can understand the stress angle, but not the anger angle. They should be angry with their own governments as we are with ours. They should be angry with their own bankers as we are with ours. No one forced them to play the game. And one more thing. Many Americans who are retired have lost so much they are on the edge of becoming homeless. All their life they did the right thing...saved...planned....and poof gone in a moment. There are many ready to retire who have suddenly lost their entire pension. So anger at ordinary Americans is misplaced.
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Wow So some of you guys really do feel insulted and hurt and feel that their are anti-American members here on FG.
Im shocked, I find it hard to imagine why members who supposedly dont like Americans would join an American forum
I must live in la la land because I didnt see a divide, or a them and us mentality.
I admit I avoid the serious discussions as a rule because I usually end up feeling like I have done 10 rounds with Tyson, your opinion is turned inside out, beaten to a pulp and hung out to dry and you have to back up every word typed, something I have no desire to do, but appreciate their are members here who do. I also didn't like the way the "we won the war" thread was panning out and did try to dampen the fire but I think I made matters worse, however I still don't think it was a personal slur on Americans but if you are American and did, well that's your view.
I will admit I have had a belly full of GORDON BROWN at FG and i'm a Brit but im a fluff pot and so I will keep to the what you have had for dinner and foc thread, where nobody tries to shout louder or have the better opinion.
To all the nationalities we have here in FG, I love you all, and I especially love all my American and Ozzie friends, the Brits are ok too:-4:-4:-4
Nothing will change unless we address this head on so be brave and tell the people you have a problem with to shut the *uck up cos I for one love this forum and don't want to see anyone leaving, especially under those circumstances.
Im shocked, I find it hard to imagine why members who supposedly dont like Americans would join an American forum
I must live in la la land because I didnt see a divide, or a them and us mentality.
I admit I avoid the serious discussions as a rule because I usually end up feeling like I have done 10 rounds with Tyson, your opinion is turned inside out, beaten to a pulp and hung out to dry and you have to back up every word typed, something I have no desire to do, but appreciate their are members here who do. I also didn't like the way the "we won the war" thread was panning out and did try to dampen the fire but I think I made matters worse, however I still don't think it was a personal slur on Americans but if you are American and did, well that's your view.
I will admit I have had a belly full of GORDON BROWN at FG and i'm a Brit but im a fluff pot and so I will keep to the what you have had for dinner and foc thread, where nobody tries to shout louder or have the better opinion.
To all the nationalities we have here in FG, I love you all, and I especially love all my American and Ozzie friends, the Brits are ok too:-4:-4:-4
Nothing will change unless we address this head on so be brave and tell the people you have a problem with to shut the *uck up cos I for one love this forum and don't want to see anyone leaving, especially under those circumstances.
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Jester;1083691 wrote: I agree with you- my feelign is that I have to sift through some posts on almost every thread to avoid the pitfall od another anti-americna discussion in order to comment on the portion of the thread I'd like to comment on, its a 'here we go again moment'.
Now I am pereceived by some as Anti-British since I came out angry attacking the ungrearfulness that I was hearing from the brits concerning our pervious assistance in wars.
So, I did my bes tto apologize for my angry posts but I havent really changed my mind on the subject. I still heard the ungreatfullness, when I know we helped the brits in WW1 and WW2- that kind of ticked me off. So flash forward, the birts laergely dont agreew ith american forign policy, why does the current issue reflect back to ungreatfullness (by a few) to WW2? Thats an exampleof anti-americanism I percieve here.
When you have to come here and at every point you feel you have to strive with someone over your nationality, then it gets pointelss to want to come here.
Realizing of course Spot and I would go at it no matter where we were and I fully accept that as a unique point of FG, and am not pulling that into consideration here.
ww 2 ya only joined in after the japs bombed ya to peices in pearl habour
Now I am pereceived by some as Anti-British since I came out angry attacking the ungrearfulness that I was hearing from the brits concerning our pervious assistance in wars.
So, I did my bes tto apologize for my angry posts but I havent really changed my mind on the subject. I still heard the ungreatfullness, when I know we helped the brits in WW1 and WW2- that kind of ticked me off. So flash forward, the birts laergely dont agreew ith american forign policy, why does the current issue reflect back to ungreatfullness (by a few) to WW2? Thats an exampleof anti-americanism I percieve here.
When you have to come here and at every point you feel you have to strive with someone over your nationality, then it gets pointelss to want to come here.
Realizing of course Spot and I would go at it no matter where we were and I fully accept that as a unique point of FG, and am not pulling that into consideration here.
ww 2 ya only joined in after the japs bombed ya to peices in pearl habour
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wildhorses;1083771 wrote: Oscar: I am part French.
Just kidding....just kidding
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Just kidding....just kidding
:yh_sweat:yh_sweat:yh_sweat:yh_sweat:yh_sweat
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oscar;1083892 wrote: :yh_sweat:yh_sweat:yh_sweat:yh_sweat:yh_sweat
Just messing with you. I am not French...not even a little.
Just messing with you. I am not French...not even a little.
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el guapo;1083889 wrote: ww 2 ya only joined in after the japs bombed ya to peices in pearl habour
Now Now little guepo, that's not the British way is it? You'll only flame the anti-America bashing label.
Now Now little guepo, that's not the British way is it? You'll only flame the anti-America bashing label.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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oscar;1083896 wrote: Now Now little guepo, that's not the British way is it? You'll only flame the anti-America bashing label.
i find it insulting that we should be greatful for the help given in ww2
the help was only given after pearl harbour
i find it insulting that we should be greatful for the help given in ww2
the help was only given after pearl harbour
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Fyrenza;1083866
The thing is, a LOT of the rest of the world depends on us ~ if for nothing else, to retain our equilibrium, and remain a stable society.
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Your talking bollocks. Why don't you google The European Constitution?
What do you think the whole of europe is doing right now in talks?
Europe is a European union and has been for many years. We depend on Europe here.
America may have other countrie's 'depend' on them but i doubt Gordon brwon will be quivering with fear tonight that your country is about to collapse because Bush hasn't got the balls to do what our PM did with the bank Chief's. get your own house in order first.. sort out your capitalistic greedy money men.. follow Europe's recovery plan to the letter.. and you might just get out of the shyte.
And that is not anti-American.
Signed Gordon Brown's wife (you wish!)
The thing is, a LOT of the rest of the world depends on us ~ if for nothing else, to retain our equilibrium, and remain a stable society.
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Your talking bollocks. Why don't you google The European Constitution?
What do you think the whole of europe is doing right now in talks?
Europe is a European union and has been for many years. We depend on Europe here.
America may have other countrie's 'depend' on them but i doubt Gordon brwon will be quivering with fear tonight that your country is about to collapse because Bush hasn't got the balls to do what our PM did with the bank Chief's. get your own house in order first.. sort out your capitalistic greedy money men.. follow Europe's recovery plan to the letter.. and you might just get out of the shyte.
And that is not anti-American.
Signed Gordon Brown's wife (you wish!)
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el guapo;1083899 wrote: i find it insulting that we should be greatful for the help given in ww2
the help was only given after pearl harbour
This is true I believe. I know in all the books it says we ran over to save people....but we really went over to knock out the problem because it was beginning to affect us. Thats the way I have always seen it anyway.....regardless of what is "written". Just because someone writes it that way does not make it true. Well it is true that we had a pretty big impact, but I am talking about the REASON we went over there. We were interested in saving ourselves and others got saved in the process.
the help was only given after pearl harbour
This is true I believe. I know in all the books it says we ran over to save people....but we really went over to knock out the problem because it was beginning to affect us. Thats the way I have always seen it anyway.....regardless of what is "written". Just because someone writes it that way does not make it true. Well it is true that we had a pretty big impact, but I am talking about the REASON we went over there. We were interested in saving ourselves and others got saved in the process.
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el guapo;1083899 wrote: i find it insulting that we should be greatful for the help given in ww2
the help was only given after pearl harbour
so bite me... how's that?
the help was only given after pearl harbour
so bite me... how's that?
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el guapo;1083899 wrote: i find it insulting that we should be greatful for the help given in ww2
the help was only given after pearl harbour
How insulting would it have been if we had never entered the war?
It seems to me everyone thinks us Americans take all the credit for WWII, just because movies that are made in hollywood seem to portray that doesn't mean we all think that the British didn't have a very large hand in the war. Most those older movies were propaganda movies meant to inspire the U.S. so we could help in the war. I could care less if you are grateful but I wish you Brits would quit pissin on our legs because you feel we came too late. The American people didn't decide when to enter the polititions made that decision and we have no idea what went into the decision as to when we would enter the war.
the help was only given after pearl harbour
How insulting would it have been if we had never entered the war?
It seems to me everyone thinks us Americans take all the credit for WWII, just because movies that are made in hollywood seem to portray that doesn't mean we all think that the British didn't have a very large hand in the war. Most those older movies were propaganda movies meant to inspire the U.S. so we could help in the war. I could care less if you are grateful but I wish you Brits would quit pissin on our legs because you feel we came too late. The American people didn't decide when to enter the polititions made that decision and we have no idea what went into the decision as to when we would enter the war.
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wildhorses;1083916 wrote: This is true I believe. I know in all the books it says we ran over to save people....but we really went over to knock out the problem because it was beginning to affect us. Thats the way I have always seen it anyway.....regardless of what is "written". Just because someone writes it that way does not make it true. Well it is true that we had a pretty big impact, but I am talking about the REASON we went over there. We were interested in saving ourselves and others got saved in the process.
no matter what the films say ya didnt beat em alone
no matter what the films say ya didnt beat em alone
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I wish you Brits would quit pissin on our legs :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
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Folks who'd like to copy my intellectual work should expect to pay me for it.:-6
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flopstock;1083918 wrote: so bite me... how's that?
if you can get away with that personel attack
kiss my behind
if you can get away with that personel attack
kiss my behind
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YZGI;1083922 wrote: How insulting would it have been if we had never entered the war?
It seems to me everyone thinks us Americans take all the credit for WWII, just because movies that are made in hollywood seem to portray that doesn't mean we all think that the British didn't have a very large hand in the war. Most those older movies were propaganda movies meant to inspire the U.S. so we could help in the war. I could care less if you are grateful but I wish you Brits would quit pissin on our legs because you feel we came too late. The American people didn't decide when to enter the polititions made that decision and we have no idea what went into the decision as to when we would enter the war.
If people would just read a book or two they'd realize that the only allied side of any consequence in Europe was Russia.
It seems to me everyone thinks us Americans take all the credit for WWII, just because movies that are made in hollywood seem to portray that doesn't mean we all think that the British didn't have a very large hand in the war. Most those older movies were propaganda movies meant to inspire the U.S. so we could help in the war. I could care less if you are grateful but I wish you Brits would quit pissin on our legs because you feel we came too late. The American people didn't decide when to enter the polititions made that decision and we have no idea what went into the decision as to when we would enter the war.
If people would just read a book or two they'd realize that the only allied side of any consequence in Europe was Russia.
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el guapo;1083925 wrote: no matter what the films say ya didnt beat em alone
Media is always someone's perspective, not necessarily hard fact. And in this case, I believe the record is wrong.
Media is always someone's perspective, not necessarily hard fact. And in this case, I believe the record is wrong.
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wildhorses;1083936 wrote: Media is always someone's perspective, not necessarily hard fact. And in this case, I believe the record is wrong.
so ya are saying you beat em alone
so ya are saying you beat em alone
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flopstock;1083926 wrote: I wish you Brits would quit pissin on our legs :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
It is fact that America did not get involved until after Pearl Harbour. By that time, the fighting was over and it was a stand off on the French Coast.
It is also fact that America did not answer the bugle call from Britain and Europe during the First world war either and arrived way way too late. (in terms of casualtie's.)
We stood alone both time's make no mistake. we did not declare war on germany because we thought Custer would come charging in to help us. We did it alone.
However, it does not erase the fact that America did help. We know that but it is just not the way some try to portray it.
It is fact that America did not get involved until after Pearl Harbour. By that time, the fighting was over and it was a stand off on the French Coast.
It is also fact that America did not answer the bugle call from Britain and Europe during the First world war either and arrived way way too late. (in terms of casualtie's.)
We stood alone both time's make no mistake. we did not declare war on germany because we thought Custer would come charging in to help us. We did it alone.
However, it does not erase the fact that America did help. We know that but it is just not the way some try to portray it.
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wildhorses;1083495 wrote: Yes we are losing members. I already notice there are quite a few that have not been here. I know what you mean....these are veiled personal attacks on americans. But then they wash their hands by saying that they are just "criticizing" our politicians. At first it was just very mild...but now it has escalated to a point that is annoying. You are right...it will be sad...this was a nice forum.
I havent noticed any other members not posting or leaving FG especially due to the thread topic, any chance you could elaborate and give names, you don't have to name them here, you can pm me with them, Im sincere in asking and if you feel uncomfortable in doing so, np.
I havent noticed any other members not posting or leaving FG especially due to the thread topic, any chance you could elaborate and give names, you don't have to name them here, you can pm me with them, Im sincere in asking and if you feel uncomfortable in doing so, np.
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spot;1083932 wrote: If people would just read a book or two they'd realize that the only allied side of any consequence in Europe was Russia.
Dont push your luck. USA did have a huge impact...huge. But in reality we went to save ourselves. But on the other hand, you all were not getting the job done. Where was Russia?
Dont push your luck. USA did have a huge impact...huge. But in reality we went to save ourselves. But on the other hand, you all were not getting the job done. Where was Russia?
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oscar;1083941 wrote: It is fact that America did not get involved until after Pearl Harbour. By that time, the fighting was over and it was a stand off on the French Coast.
It is also fact that America did not answer the bugle call from Britain and Europe during the First world war either and arrived way way too late. (in terms of casualtie's.)
We stood alone both time's make no mistake. we did not declare war on germany because we thought Custer would come charging in to help us. We did it alone.
However, it does not erase the fact that America did help. We know that but it is just not the way some try to portray it.
omg we agree on some thing
It is also fact that America did not answer the bugle call from Britain and Europe during the First world war either and arrived way way too late. (in terms of casualtie's.)
We stood alone both time's make no mistake. we did not declare war on germany because we thought Custer would come charging in to help us. We did it alone.
However, it does not erase the fact that America did help. We know that but it is just not the way some try to portray it.
omg we agree on some thing
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el guapo;1083925 wrote: no matter what the films say ya didnt beat em alone
no really?
well that changes everything...
see ya later accountable, don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out...
better yet, hold it for some of the rest of the americans here..
no really?
well that changes everything...
see ya later accountable, don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out...
better yet, hold it for some of the rest of the americans here..
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el guapo;1083945 wrote: omg we agree on some thing
WTF's going on?
Oscar agree's with galbladder twice in one week
Oscar agree's with Jester
Oscar agree's with pantoandy
Now guepo agree's with Gordon Brown loving Oscar
But Oscar to agree with gmc????
NEVER DO YOU HEAR NEVER
I SHALL NEVER SURRENDER TO GMC
WTF's going on?
Oscar agree's with galbladder twice in one week
Oscar agree's with Jester
Oscar agree's with pantoandy
Now guepo agree's with Gordon Brown loving Oscar
But Oscar to agree with gmc????
NEVER DO YOU HEAR NEVER
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el guapo;1083940 wrote: so ya are saying you beat em alone
No I am saying that history books, movies portrays us as the altruistic savior. I am saying that I dont belive that. We went because it started to affect us, not to help anyone but ourselves. And you all had them beaten down by the time we got there....so not much else left to do. And certainly we were not there alone. But hey if you want to fight about it, you were not really getting the job done were ya? Otherwise you would not need help.
No I am saying that history books, movies portrays us as the altruistic savior. I am saying that I dont belive that. We went because it started to affect us, not to help anyone but ourselves. And you all had them beaten down by the time we got there....so not much else left to do. And certainly we were not there alone. But hey if you want to fight about it, you were not really getting the job done were ya? Otherwise you would not need help.
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Can we stop talking about WW1..WW2 or any war in this thread please. Jeeez.
Lets use the war threads to talk war.
Accountable posted a thread accusing members of being Anti-American, let's try and sort that out and get Accountable back on FG shall we.
Lets use the war threads to talk war.
Accountable posted a thread accusing members of being Anti-American, let's try and sort that out and get Accountable back on FG shall we.
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flopstock;1083951 wrote: no really?
well that changes everything...
see ya later accountable, don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out...
better yet, hold it for some of the rest of the americans here..
No flop...dont go. We can take em.
well that changes everything...
see ya later accountable, don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out...
better yet, hold it for some of the rest of the americans here..
No flop...dont go. We can take em.
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wildhorses;1083957 wrote: No I am saying that history books, movies portrays us as the altruistic savior. I am saying that I dont belive that. We went because it started to affect us, not to help anyone but ourselves. And you all had them beaten down by the time we got there....so not much else left to do. And certainly we were not there alone. But hey if you want to fight about it, you were not really getting the job done were ya? Otherwise you would not need help.
sorry but it seems you the one who wants a fight
i was only stating facts
sorry but it seems you the one who wants a fight
i was only stating facts
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would any one like a cup??
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would any one like a cup??
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oscar;1083955 wrote: WTF's going on?
Oscar agree's with galbladder twice in one week
Oscar agree's with Jester
Oscar agree's with pantoandy
Now guepo agree's with Gordon Brown loving Oscar
But Oscar to agree with gmc????
NEVER DO YOU HEAR NEVER
I SHALL NEVER SURRENDER TO GMC
And somewhere I just agreed with SPOT. Only partially mind you....
Oscar agree's with galbladder twice in one week
Oscar agree's with Jester
Oscar agree's with pantoandy
Now guepo agree's with Gordon Brown loving Oscar
But Oscar to agree with gmc????
NEVER DO YOU HEAR NEVER
I SHALL NEVER SURRENDER TO GMC
And somewhere I just agreed with SPOT. Only partially mind you....
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wildhorses;1083944 wrote: Dont push your luck. USA did have a huge impact...huge. But in reality we went to save ourselves. But on the other hand, you all were not getting the job done. Where was Russia?
You'll settle for this May's Time magazine? Or is that too much left-leaning pinko liberalism for you?By measure of manpower, duration, territorial reach and casualties, it was as much as four times the scale of the conflict on the Western Front that opened with the Normandy invasion of June 1944. The Nazis' initial invasion of Russia, Operation Barbarossa, involved 3.2 million German troops and 3,000 aircraft, and even after the U.S.-led invasion of Western Europe, the vast majority of German military resources remained deployed against the Soviets. By war's end, according to historian Norman Davies, the U.S.S.R. had lost 11 million troops.
Remembering a Red Flag Day - TIME
You'll settle for this May's Time magazine? Or is that too much left-leaning pinko liberalism for you?By measure of manpower, duration, territorial reach and casualties, it was as much as four times the scale of the conflict on the Western Front that opened with the Normandy invasion of June 1944. The Nazis' initial invasion of Russia, Operation Barbarossa, involved 3.2 million German troops and 3,000 aircraft, and even after the U.S.-led invasion of Western Europe, the vast majority of German military resources remained deployed against the Soviets. By war's end, according to historian Norman Davies, the U.S.S.R. had lost 11 million troops.
Remembering a Red Flag Day - TIME
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fuzzy butt;1083959 wrote: I think the average American needs to see how you yourselves by your own global media portray yourselves .
I still have etched in my memory an episode of the O'reilly factor where a senator, O'reilly (and I think a political commentator ) all agreed that The American allies were ...............Wait for it...................Cowards!!!!!! for not getting involved and then pulling out too early from the Iraq War.:-2:-2:-2
The O'reilly factor is shown all over the free world...................Why did he do that? And now i see little O'reillys' all over this board and we are just to shut up and deal with it?
seriously stuff a sock in the the big gob of yours! Your one of the worst anti-American posters on here! I wonder how many keyboards you've killed with your excessive foam!
I still have etched in my memory an episode of the O'reilly factor where a senator, O'reilly (and I think a political commentator ) all agreed that The American allies were ...............Wait for it...................Cowards!!!!!! for not getting involved and then pulling out too early from the Iraq War.:-2:-2:-2
The O'reilly factor is shown all over the free world...................Why did he do that? And now i see little O'reillys' all over this board and we are just to shut up and deal with it?
seriously stuff a sock in the the big gob of yours! Your one of the worst anti-American posters on here! I wonder how many keyboards you've killed with your excessive foam!
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wildhorses;1083965 wrote: And somewhere I just agreed with SPOT. Only partially mind you....
OMG What madness is this forum descending into??
No-one can leave.. it's too much fun.
I joined a new forum last night because i was fed up... but it's shyte.
OMG What madness is this forum descending into??
No-one can leave.. it's too much fun.
I joined a new forum last night because i was fed up... but it's shyte.
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oscar;1083964 wrote: I'M MAKING A POT OF TEA
would any one like a cup??
:yh_coffee:yh_coffee:yh_coffee:yh_coffee:yh_coffee:yh_coffee
tea milk and one please
a very civilised drink far better than coffee
would any one like a cup??
:yh_coffee:yh_coffee:yh_coffee:yh_coffee:yh_coffee:yh_coffee
tea milk and one please
a very civilised drink far better than coffee
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el guapo;1083962 wrote: sorry but it seems you the one who wants a fight
i was only stating facts
There is a thousand and one ways to say something. I was agreeing with you.
i was only stating facts
There is a thousand and one ways to say something. I was agreeing with you.
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wildhorses;1083974 wrote: There is a thousand and one ways to say something. I was agreeing with you.
cool we can all be friend again
would you like a tea oscar is making a pot
cool we can all be friend again
would you like a tea oscar is making a pot
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spot;1083968 wrote: You'll settle for this May's Time magazine? Or is that too much left-leaning pinko liberalism for you?By measure of manpower, duration, territorial reach and casualties, it was as much as four times the scale of the conflict on the Western Front that opened with the Normandy invasion of June 1944. The Nazis' initial invasion of Russia, Operation Barbarossa, involved 3.2 million German troops and 3,000 aircraft, and even after the U.S.-led invasion of Western Europe, the vast majority of German military resources remained deployed against the Soviets. By war's end, according to historian Norman Davies, the U.S.S.R. had lost 11 million troops.
Remembering a Red Flag Day - TIME
No Russia was the major ally in the European Theater, they were at it alot longer than the U.S. was. We didn't enter into the mix until after Germany declared war on us. But there were American piolets flying in the RAF before we entered the mix. And surely there was some money or goods given to help England out before we entered.
Remembering a Red Flag Day - TIME
No Russia was the major ally in the European Theater, they were at it alot longer than the U.S. was. We didn't enter into the mix until after Germany declared war on us. But there were American piolets flying in the RAF before we entered the mix. And surely there was some money or goods given to help England out before we entered.
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wildhorses;1083974 wrote: There is a thousand and one ways to say something. I was agreeing with you.
Yeah she was guepo :yh_nailbi:yh_nailbi:yh_nailbi:yh_nailbi:yh_nailbi
Yeah she was guepo :yh_nailbi:yh_nailbi:yh_nailbi:yh_nailbi:yh_nailbi
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Sheryl;1083977 wrote: And surely there was some money or goods given to help England out before we entered.
You mean Lend Lease?
We finished paying that off about five years ago.
You mean Lend Lease?
We finished paying that off about five years ago.
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fuzzy butt;1083959 wrote: I think the average American needs to see how you yourselves by your own global media portray yourselves .
I still have etched in my memory an episode of the O'reilly factor where a senator, O'reilly (and I think a political commentator ) all agreed that The American allies were ...............Wait for it...................Cowards!!!!!! for not getting involved and then pulling out too early from the Iraq War.:-2:-2:-2
The O'reilly factor is shown all over the free world...................Why did he do that? And now i see little O'reillys' all over this board and we are just to shut up and deal with it?
Well, that explains quite a bit about YOUR take on americans..:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
Who do you use as rebuttal material?? Jerry Springer or Geraldo?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
I still have etched in my memory an episode of the O'reilly factor where a senator, O'reilly (and I think a political commentator ) all agreed that The American allies were ...............Wait for it...................Cowards!!!!!! for not getting involved and then pulling out too early from the Iraq War.:-2:-2:-2
The O'reilly factor is shown all over the free world...................Why did he do that? And now i see little O'reillys' all over this board and we are just to shut up and deal with it?
Well, that explains quite a bit about YOUR take on americans..:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
Who do you use as rebuttal material?? Jerry Springer or Geraldo?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
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