justice at last for murdered mother
justice at last for murdered mother
Great news Jimbo! They always accusing the wrong person for crimes. Right here in my county we had a guy do about 20 yrs for a rape/murder he did not commit. DNA finally set him free and guess what? He sued the crap outta the county, got compensation and moved to guess where? The UK. Nicholas Yarris is living somewhere in your country, got married and is raising a daughter.
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Just listening to it on the news now, hopefully Colin Stagg can live his life in peace now without feeling that people still think he did it. The police just seem more intent on getting 'someone' nowadays, rather than finding the actual criminals. :rolleyes:
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Its true he is innocent but he and his family are well known on the estate ( I lived there) and were always... feared well thats too strong a word but people knew not to cross them.
Innocent of this he might be but he is not pure as the driven snow as many will now make out.
Innocent of this he might be but he is not pure as the driven snow as many will now make out.
justice at last for murdered mother
The thing which got Colin Stagg off the original charge back in the 1990s was the judge. He told the police they couldn't behave the way they did and directed the jury to acquit. It's taken ten years for DNA testing to catch up and demonstrate that his decision to halt the trial was justified. Up until now there have been people saying if it weren't for the prissy judge interfering the murderer wouldn't have got off.
For the Americans here who won't remember, what the police did was they baited a honeytrap. They got a policewoman to befriend Colin Stagg, to get him to fall in love with her, to tell him she was twisted and that she'd killed a woman and child in a satanic ritual and that she wanted sex with him but only if he'd had a similar experience. This went on for seven months, she could never get him to say he did it even to get her into bed and eventually they went to court with the things they said he'd fantacized with her, she was the prosecution's star witness. She took early retirement four years later and settled out of court for £125,000 worth of "serious psychiatric injury". The psychologist who devised the scheme as one applying the maximum pressure on Colin Stagg was never reprimanded.
The Crown Prosecution Service report on the case, two years after the trial collapsed, said the judge had been wrong:Press Association July 2, 1996
Mr Justice Ognall condemned the police operation, which used an undercover policewoman who persuaded Stagg, 33, to reveal his fantasies, as "bait" and "deception of the grossest kind". At the time CPS came in for severe criticism along with police over the case, which ended in Stagg's acquittal of the 1992 murder in which Miss Nickell was stabbed 49 times in front of her two-year-old son Alex. The CPS document says: "In considering the above criticism, it would clearly appear that the judge was adopting a disciplinary attitude to police conduct."
It maintains that the judge should have allowed a jury to consider Stagg's guilt or innocence, and calls for a change in the law to let the CPS appeal against judge-directed acquittals, the paper says. But it makes clear that the CPS document, written by a senior lawyer, does not suggest that the judge allowed his disapproval of the investigation to affect his ruling, or acted improperly in any way.
The document says: "It is important to bear in mind that the undercover operation in essence changed direction in that no real confession was elicited from Stagg and no material items of evidence believed to be in his possession were recovered." It adds: "It is the clear conclusion that this prosecution was not only properly brought, but was attended throughout by professionalism of the highest order.""attended throughout by professionalism of the highest order"? That's another organization which needs mucking out too. If that CPS way of thinking was right Colin Stagg would have been in jail for ten years before the error was discovered instead of the 14 months he spent on remand. Even that's not true. The error would simply never have been found, nobody would have looked for it. Why would they?
You know what I think they spent a year and a half on forensic work for? To get new evidence on Colin Stagg, not to find out who killed Rachel Nickell. I think the police wanted to be proved right after all.
For the Americans here who won't remember, what the police did was they baited a honeytrap. They got a policewoman to befriend Colin Stagg, to get him to fall in love with her, to tell him she was twisted and that she'd killed a woman and child in a satanic ritual and that she wanted sex with him but only if he'd had a similar experience. This went on for seven months, she could never get him to say he did it even to get her into bed and eventually they went to court with the things they said he'd fantacized with her, she was the prosecution's star witness. She took early retirement four years later and settled out of court for £125,000 worth of "serious psychiatric injury". The psychologist who devised the scheme as one applying the maximum pressure on Colin Stagg was never reprimanded.
The Crown Prosecution Service report on the case, two years after the trial collapsed, said the judge had been wrong:Press Association July 2, 1996
Mr Justice Ognall condemned the police operation, which used an undercover policewoman who persuaded Stagg, 33, to reveal his fantasies, as "bait" and "deception of the grossest kind". At the time CPS came in for severe criticism along with police over the case, which ended in Stagg's acquittal of the 1992 murder in which Miss Nickell was stabbed 49 times in front of her two-year-old son Alex. The CPS document says: "In considering the above criticism, it would clearly appear that the judge was adopting a disciplinary attitude to police conduct."
It maintains that the judge should have allowed a jury to consider Stagg's guilt or innocence, and calls for a change in the law to let the CPS appeal against judge-directed acquittals, the paper says. But it makes clear that the CPS document, written by a senior lawyer, does not suggest that the judge allowed his disapproval of the investigation to affect his ruling, or acted improperly in any way.
The document says: "It is important to bear in mind that the undercover operation in essence changed direction in that no real confession was elicited from Stagg and no material items of evidence believed to be in his possession were recovered." It adds: "It is the clear conclusion that this prosecution was not only properly brought, but was attended throughout by professionalism of the highest order.""attended throughout by professionalism of the highest order"? That's another organization which needs mucking out too. If that CPS way of thinking was right Colin Stagg would have been in jail for ten years before the error was discovered instead of the 14 months he spent on remand. Even that's not true. The error would simply never have been found, nobody would have looked for it. Why would they?
You know what I think they spent a year and a half on forensic work for? To get new evidence on Colin Stagg, not to find out who killed Rachel Nickell. I think the police wanted to be proved right after all.
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Victoria;1089454 wrote: Its true he is innocent but he and his family are well known on the estate ( I lived there) and were always... feared well thats too strong a word but people knew not to cross them.
Innocent of this he might be but he is not pure as the driven snow as many will now make out.
Would you mind exploring this for a moment?
Colin Stagg was in his late twenties, a virgin, a loner. He made the mistake of sunbathing naked on a secluded part of the Common and coming to the attention of the police who prosecuted him for indecent exposure for which he was fined. Those details brought his name up on a psychological profile for the man who killed Rachel Nickell in front of her infant on the same Common during the previous week. I'd think the indecent exposure prosecution only happened because of the killing and the numbers of police brought to the Common to begin the investigation but that's mere opinion.
On the basis of fitting the psychological profile he had an undercover policewoman assigned to him with instructions to befriend him, get him to love her and then to offer her body in exchange for his admitting he'd killed a woman on Wimbledon Common with a knife. After seven months of this, without a confession but having got him to tell her what the police had already told him under interview about the crime, they went to court saying he had too intimate a knowledge of the murder.
Here, this is the Independent the day after the trial collapsed:A policewoman would encourage the suspect's fantasies, to see where they led. Mr Britton claimed his was such a precise science that a close match would prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt, the court was told. He supervised every outgoing letter and conversation, studied every response and predicted the likely path the suspect's fantasies would follow. At any stage if it diverged he would be able to call off the experiment. In his view, every new element was introduced by the suspect, with the policewoman merely following and encouraging. And in his view the results were a profile match between suspect and killer. [...] Mr Britton insisted the fantasies described by Mr Stagg were not made up to entice someone into bed.
Most people thought Colin Stagg had been guilty. The press hacks put up front page stories about the case to remind the public there was a killer who'd got off. They followed him, they interviewed the neighbours, they interviewed users of the Common. He was still living there, still exercising there and he was so used to abuse that he took to carrying an axe in his belt. The year after the trial he thought a man set his dogs on him, the axe came out, he was beaten up and prosecuted. His fiancee ended beaten up and thrown in a nearby pond before the two of them were rescued by passers-by. He got a year's probation.Ian Ryan, defending, told magistrates at Wimbledon, South West London, that since being cleared at the Old Bailey last September of murdering Miss Nickell, Stagg had been abused and spat at by strangers in the street and had been sent hate mail. 'His sexual fantasies were published in the newspapers, his letters were published. He was depicted as a weirdo, pervert, Satanist, loner and a sad person - just about everything imaginable,' said Mr Ryan.And that's it. That's all he's ever done. He came up matching a police profile and his life's been wrecked. He spent over a year on remand, he's been the bogeyman the nation's been taught to loathe by the press for over a decade, all because the Eye of Mordor noticed him. He came under police suspicion. Just that, nothing else.
There are two people who come out of this well, the judge who refused to allow the case to proceed and the mentally ill Robert Napper who stood up in court this week and admitted he was the murderer instead of trying to deny it.
The people who ought to have their reputation in tatters haven't anything of the sort. The police are all-powerful, they're beyond effective criticism or scrutiny. The press can destroy a Social Services manager like Sharon Shoesmith for incompetence because she's powerless. If you want to see what happens to a journalist who makes the same claim about the police and intelligence services, look at Duncan Campbell. He attracted the Eye of Mordor too.
Innocent of this he might be but he is not pure as the driven snow as many will now make out.
Would you mind exploring this for a moment?
Colin Stagg was in his late twenties, a virgin, a loner. He made the mistake of sunbathing naked on a secluded part of the Common and coming to the attention of the police who prosecuted him for indecent exposure for which he was fined. Those details brought his name up on a psychological profile for the man who killed Rachel Nickell in front of her infant on the same Common during the previous week. I'd think the indecent exposure prosecution only happened because of the killing and the numbers of police brought to the Common to begin the investigation but that's mere opinion.
On the basis of fitting the psychological profile he had an undercover policewoman assigned to him with instructions to befriend him, get him to love her and then to offer her body in exchange for his admitting he'd killed a woman on Wimbledon Common with a knife. After seven months of this, without a confession but having got him to tell her what the police had already told him under interview about the crime, they went to court saying he had too intimate a knowledge of the murder.
Here, this is the Independent the day after the trial collapsed:A policewoman would encourage the suspect's fantasies, to see where they led. Mr Britton claimed his was such a precise science that a close match would prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt, the court was told. He supervised every outgoing letter and conversation, studied every response and predicted the likely path the suspect's fantasies would follow. At any stage if it diverged he would be able to call off the experiment. In his view, every new element was introduced by the suspect, with the policewoman merely following and encouraging. And in his view the results were a profile match between suspect and killer. [...] Mr Britton insisted the fantasies described by Mr Stagg were not made up to entice someone into bed.
Most people thought Colin Stagg had been guilty. The press hacks put up front page stories about the case to remind the public there was a killer who'd got off. They followed him, they interviewed the neighbours, they interviewed users of the Common. He was still living there, still exercising there and he was so used to abuse that he took to carrying an axe in his belt. The year after the trial he thought a man set his dogs on him, the axe came out, he was beaten up and prosecuted. His fiancee ended beaten up and thrown in a nearby pond before the two of them were rescued by passers-by. He got a year's probation.Ian Ryan, defending, told magistrates at Wimbledon, South West London, that since being cleared at the Old Bailey last September of murdering Miss Nickell, Stagg had been abused and spat at by strangers in the street and had been sent hate mail. 'His sexual fantasies were published in the newspapers, his letters were published. He was depicted as a weirdo, pervert, Satanist, loner and a sad person - just about everything imaginable,' said Mr Ryan.And that's it. That's all he's ever done. He came up matching a police profile and his life's been wrecked. He spent over a year on remand, he's been the bogeyman the nation's been taught to loathe by the press for over a decade, all because the Eye of Mordor noticed him. He came under police suspicion. Just that, nothing else.
There are two people who come out of this well, the judge who refused to allow the case to proceed and the mentally ill Robert Napper who stood up in court this week and admitted he was the murderer instead of trying to deny it.
The people who ought to have their reputation in tatters haven't anything of the sort. The police are all-powerful, they're beyond effective criticism or scrutiny. The press can destroy a Social Services manager like Sharon Shoesmith for incompetence because she's powerless. If you want to see what happens to a journalist who makes the same claim about the police and intelligence services, look at Duncan Campbell. He attracted the Eye of Mordor too.
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Stag is just another victem of arrest first, fit the crime later. They have the blood of both women and child on their hands and no-one else.
British police have become a joke and in many cases, they are questionable.
I haven't had time to look properly today but yet another 'Stag' has come to light. A poor woman has spent years in prison for allegedly hitting a baby boys head against a bannister while baby sitting, killing him. Despite the poor woman having no background of any reason to give her grounds to do this, she has been released after yet again, police evidence that convicted her was deemed wholly un-safe and the baby died of a massive epileptic fit.
These police ruin live's and go on with their careers while people like Stag have their live's ruined. the police should be in prison.
British police have become a joke and in many cases, they are questionable.
I haven't had time to look properly today but yet another 'Stag' has come to light. A poor woman has spent years in prison for allegedly hitting a baby boys head against a bannister while baby sitting, killing him. Despite the poor woman having no background of any reason to give her grounds to do this, she has been released after yet again, police evidence that convicted her was deemed wholly un-safe and the baby died of a massive epileptic fit.
These police ruin live's and go on with their careers while people like Stag have their live's ruined. the police should be in prison.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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Would you like to see a judge have a quiet gloat?Sir Harry said he "came in for a great deal of flak" when he halted Mr Stagg's trial.
"There were repeated, insidious, suggestions that Stagg had been exonerated on a technicality - in other words that I had literally let him get away with murder. So if I can introduce a personal note, it's a matter of quiet satisfaction to me - in perhaps the only instance, some of my colleagues would say - to be proved conclusively right."
BBC NEWS | England | London | Judge welcomes Nickell confession
One wonders what the poor policewoman they used as bait for all those months must be thinking. All those months of being part of a plan to pressurise someone she now discovers had been entirely innocent all along. I bet she's furious, she knows she was the main instrument in wrecking his life. She's in the same boat as the marksmen who implement Operation Kratos instructions not having a clue whether the man they're ordered to kill is a danger or not. They trust the system and the system's complete bullshit drawn up by careerists who, no doubt, would prefer to be right but want a step up the ladder regardless. How naive does a drone have to be to trust people like that? And then they end up having to lie to get their own necks off the block afterwards.
There's three people sentenced this week to 18 months for perjury over the Cardiff Three affair. They were terrified into lying by the police who wanted prosecutions. I don't see any police being jailed for terrifying them into it. The wrong people carry the can every time.
"There were repeated, insidious, suggestions that Stagg had been exonerated on a technicality - in other words that I had literally let him get away with murder. So if I can introduce a personal note, it's a matter of quiet satisfaction to me - in perhaps the only instance, some of my colleagues would say - to be proved conclusively right."
BBC NEWS | England | London | Judge welcomes Nickell confession
One wonders what the poor policewoman they used as bait for all those months must be thinking. All those months of being part of a plan to pressurise someone she now discovers had been entirely innocent all along. I bet she's furious, she knows she was the main instrument in wrecking his life. She's in the same boat as the marksmen who implement Operation Kratos instructions not having a clue whether the man they're ordered to kill is a danger or not. They trust the system and the system's complete bullshit drawn up by careerists who, no doubt, would prefer to be right but want a step up the ladder regardless. How naive does a drone have to be to trust people like that? And then they end up having to lie to get their own necks off the block afterwards.
There's three people sentenced this week to 18 months for perjury over the Cardiff Three affair. They were terrified into lying by the police who wanted prosecutions. I don't see any police being jailed for terrifying them into it. The wrong people carry the can every time.
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spot;1090077 wrote: Would you like to see a judge have a quiet gloat?Sir Harry said he "came in for a great deal of flak" when he halted Mr Stagg's trial.
"There were repeated, insidious, suggestions that Stagg had been exonerated on a technicality - in other words that I had literally let him get away with murder. So if I can introduce a personal note, it's a matter of quiet satisfaction to me - in perhaps the only instance, some of my colleagues would say - to be proved conclusively right."
BBC NEWS | England | London | Judge welcomes Nickell confession
One wonders what the poor policewoman they used as bait for all those months must be thinking. All those months of being part of a plan to pressurise someone she now discovers had been entirely innocent all along. I bet she's furious, she knows she was the main instrument in wrecking his life. She's in the same boat as the marksmen who implement Operation Kratos instructions not having a clue whether the man they're ordered to kill is a danger or not. They trust the system and the system's complete bullshit drawn up by careerists who, no doubt, would prefer to be right but want a step up the ladder regardless. How naive does a drone have to be to trust people like that? And then they end up having to lie to get their own necks off the block afterwards.
There's three people sentenced this week to 18 months for perjury over the Cardiff Three affair. They were terrified into lying by the police who wanted prosecutions. I don't see any police being jailed for terrifying them into it. The wrong people carry the can every time.
My horror at police blunders, by headmistress who survived next attack by Rachel Nickell's killer | Mail Online
We have a big big problem with police in this country. Anyone who has never seen it first hand can uderstand what lenghts some of them will go to, to preserve their career and not be held accountable.
These are the big high profile cases that come to light in the press but there are many many injustice's to the average man in the street who feels they can't take them on and win.
Police here have one main objective.. to preserve their career and integrity and by god they don't like it when they are blown wide open.
'Stagg is one of many victems of the police. Another is 'Barry George'. Both of them were strange to say the least but it's no excuse to ruin a man's life because inept police can't nail the real suspect.
"There were repeated, insidious, suggestions that Stagg had been exonerated on a technicality - in other words that I had literally let him get away with murder. So if I can introduce a personal note, it's a matter of quiet satisfaction to me - in perhaps the only instance, some of my colleagues would say - to be proved conclusively right."
BBC NEWS | England | London | Judge welcomes Nickell confession
One wonders what the poor policewoman they used as bait for all those months must be thinking. All those months of being part of a plan to pressurise someone she now discovers had been entirely innocent all along. I bet she's furious, she knows she was the main instrument in wrecking his life. She's in the same boat as the marksmen who implement Operation Kratos instructions not having a clue whether the man they're ordered to kill is a danger or not. They trust the system and the system's complete bullshit drawn up by careerists who, no doubt, would prefer to be right but want a step up the ladder regardless. How naive does a drone have to be to trust people like that? And then they end up having to lie to get their own necks off the block afterwards.
There's three people sentenced this week to 18 months for perjury over the Cardiff Three affair. They were terrified into lying by the police who wanted prosecutions. I don't see any police being jailed for terrifying them into it. The wrong people carry the can every time.
My horror at police blunders, by headmistress who survived next attack by Rachel Nickell's killer | Mail Online
We have a big big problem with police in this country. Anyone who has never seen it first hand can uderstand what lenghts some of them will go to, to preserve their career and not be held accountable.
These are the big high profile cases that come to light in the press but there are many many injustice's to the average man in the street who feels they can't take them on and win.
Police here have one main objective.. to preserve their career and integrity and by god they don't like it when they are blown wide open.
'Stagg is one of many victems of the police. Another is 'Barry George'. Both of them were strange to say the least but it's no excuse to ruin a man's life because inept police can't nail the real suspect.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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spot;1090077 wrote: There's three people sentenced this week to 18 months for perjury over the Cardiff Three affair. They were terrified into lying by the police who wanted prosecutions. I don't see any police being jailed for terrifying them into it. The wrong people carry the can every time.
Having said "the wrong people carry the can every time" I'm going to watch this very carefully. It's not often the scum gets drawn off the broth.Fifteen people are to be charged over the investigation into the 1988 murder of Cardiff prostitute Lynette White. They include nine retired police officers, three serving officers and one member of police staff. Ms White was found stabbed to death in a flat in the docks area of Cardiff on Valentine's Day in 1988. Three men were wrongly jailed for her murder in 1990.
Stephen Miller, Yusef Abdullahi and Tony Paris were released after being cleared at the Court of Appeal. It became one of Britain's most notorious miscarriages of justice and in 1992 the convictions of the three jailed men - who became known as the Cardiff Three - were quashed and they were freed.
BBC NEWS | Wales | 15 face charges over murder probe
Having said "the wrong people carry the can every time" I'm going to watch this very carefully. It's not often the scum gets drawn off the broth.Fifteen people are to be charged over the investigation into the 1988 murder of Cardiff prostitute Lynette White. They include nine retired police officers, three serving officers and one member of police staff. Ms White was found stabbed to death in a flat in the docks area of Cardiff on Valentine's Day in 1988. Three men were wrongly jailed for her murder in 1990.
Stephen Miller, Yusef Abdullahi and Tony Paris were released after being cleared at the Court of Appeal. It became one of Britain's most notorious miscarriages of justice and in 1992 the convictions of the three jailed men - who became known as the Cardiff Three - were quashed and they were freed.
BBC NEWS | Wales | 15 face charges over murder probe
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spot;1150123 wrote: Fifteen people are to be charged over the investigation into the 1988 murder of Cardiff prostitute Lynette White. They include nine retired police officers, three serving officers and one member of police staff.
Justice is justice. Its supposed to be blind. It should be blind.
Ive often thought that cop mentality, the brotherhood was bogus unless its applied to excel, not to cover each others asses.
Police and all of the judiciary clerks should be held to impeccable standards.
I dont know if this statement applies to this case but one cop should be distressed when another faults.
I can only imagine the reasons for joining much like a rookie politician would be pure ones.
Too many succumb to the pressure of how the game is really played.
Justice is justice. Its supposed to be blind. It should be blind.
Ive often thought that cop mentality, the brotherhood was bogus unless its applied to excel, not to cover each others asses.
Police and all of the judiciary clerks should be held to impeccable standards.
I dont know if this statement applies to this case but one cop should be distressed when another faults.
I can only imagine the reasons for joining much like a rookie politician would be pure ones.
Too many succumb to the pressure of how the game is really played.
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Nomad;1150131 wrote: Justice is justice. Its supposed to be blind. It should be blind.
Ive often thought that cop mentality, the brotherhood was bogus unless its applied to excel, not to cover each others asses.
Police and all of the judiciary clerks should be held to impeccable standards.
I dont know if this statement applies to this case but one cop should be distressed when another faults.
I can only imagine the reasons for joining much like a rookie politician would be pure ones.
Too many succumb to the pressure of how the game is really played. As i've said before..... this happens all the time in the UK.
If some-one had told me two years ago that i would watch a police officer take the oath and then lie through their back teeth, i would never have believed it.
What seems to happen in this country with our police is that like everyone else, they are human and open to error. If they make an error and stand up and be accountable for it, we wouldn't have this. They all stick together and the messier it become's, the more they lie and lie and lie.
We read about high profile cases in the press all the time but this behaviour from police is happening to people in the street every day and we don't hear of many of them. They think they are a bloody law unto themselves. They ruin innocent people's lives and careers to save their own skins. I would never have believed this until i experienced it first hand. Any one who doubts that British police are fully capable of lying to fit some-one up has never been in some of these people's positions. I can't go into details on here but i'm in the middle of doing something that i hope will be noted. I can only but try. I personally will not rest until there is a major change in our policing.
Ive often thought that cop mentality, the brotherhood was bogus unless its applied to excel, not to cover each others asses.
Police and all of the judiciary clerks should be held to impeccable standards.
I dont know if this statement applies to this case but one cop should be distressed when another faults.
I can only imagine the reasons for joining much like a rookie politician would be pure ones.
Too many succumb to the pressure of how the game is really played. As i've said before..... this happens all the time in the UK.
If some-one had told me two years ago that i would watch a police officer take the oath and then lie through their back teeth, i would never have believed it.
What seems to happen in this country with our police is that like everyone else, they are human and open to error. If they make an error and stand up and be accountable for it, we wouldn't have this. They all stick together and the messier it become's, the more they lie and lie and lie.
We read about high profile cases in the press all the time but this behaviour from police is happening to people in the street every day and we don't hear of many of them. They think they are a bloody law unto themselves. They ruin innocent people's lives and careers to save their own skins. I would never have believed this until i experienced it first hand. Any one who doubts that British police are fully capable of lying to fit some-one up has never been in some of these people's positions. I can't go into details on here but i'm in the middle of doing something that i hope will be noted. I can only but try. I personally will not rest until there is a major change in our policing.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon