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Betty Boop
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Wishing you all the best Oscar, hopefully when this all settles down you'll return. :-6:-4
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Themis;1104679 wrote: It's the forum way I guess, people just love falling out. the playground of the internet 
Jimbo fallen out with anyone here?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
never, he is tops here with everyone!:-6
Jimbo fallen out with anyone here?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
never, he is tops here with everyone!:-6
Life is just to short for drama.
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jimbo;1104693 wrote: see what i mean .micky taking to get their own back :p:p:p
:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
I must say, I never understand what you say!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
I must say, I never understand what you say!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
Life is just to short for drama.
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Odie;1104701 wrote: I must say, I never understand what you say!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
Nobody ever understands what he says fgs............not even him:-5:-5:sneaky::rolleyes:
Nobody ever understands what he says fgs............not even him:-5:-5:sneaky::rolleyes:
Women are bitchy and predictable ...men are not and that's the key to knowing the truth.
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Carolly;1104705 wrote: Nobody ever understands what he says fgs............not even him:-5:-5:sneaky::rolleyes:
so ffs what does .micky mean?:-5:-5
so ffs what does .micky mean?:-5:-5
Life is just to short for drama.
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Odie;1104710 wrote: so ffs what does .micky mean?:-5:-5
Means his taking the pee dear:rolleyes:
;)
Means his taking the pee dear:rolleyes:
;)Women are bitchy and predictable ...men are not and that's the key to knowing the truth.
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jimbo;1104737 wrote: spoil sport 
:)
i think the american term is ragging on
or gently poking fun of:):)
taking the pee :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotflOscar aint gonna be very pleased with you if she comes back and finds you have nicked her bleedin Thread sunshine:sneaky::-5:-5:-2:p
:)i think the american term is ragging on
or gently poking fun of:):)
taking the pee :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotflOscar aint gonna be very pleased with you if she comes back and finds you have nicked her bleedin Thread sunshine:sneaky::-5:-5:-2:p
Women are bitchy and predictable ...men are not and that's the key to knowing the truth.
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now, back to Oscar, you can run but you can't hide!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
I sent you two more of our polar bears, this time make sure they don't escape from their cages!:sneaky::yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
I sent you two more of our polar bears, this time make sure they don't escape from their cages!:sneaky:
:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotflLife is just to short for drama.
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Odie;1104795 wrote: now, back to Oscar, you can run but you can't hide!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
I sent you two more of our polar bears, this time make sure they don't escape from their cages!:sneaky::yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotflI will be talking to Oscar later and im gonna tell her you and Jim have kidnapped her Thread:p:rolleyes::D:guitarist
I sent you two more of our polar bears, this time make sure they don't escape from their cages!:sneaky:
:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotflI will be talking to Oscar later and im gonna tell her you and Jim have kidnapped her Thread:p:rolleyes::D:guitaristWomen are bitchy and predictable ...men are not and that's the key to knowing the truth.
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Oh for pity sake, just when I was getting to know you :-1
Miz O, please take good care of yourself, and don't be a stranger do pop in again when things settle down.
Huggs
M
Miz O, please take good care of yourself, and don't be a stranger do pop in again when things settle down.
Huggs
M
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oscar;1103659 wrote: I'm sure some of you will be most relieved but this will be the last post from Oscar.
For one, I have to go back to work full time, another is that events in my personal life need my full attention and i will also be away here and there visiting relitives in the next few weeks.
There is so much happening at the moment that i need to give my full time attention to my personal life.
I must say thankyou to all the special friends i have made on FG espescially, Odie, Duckie, Carolly, Spot, galbally, gmc, mikie etc etc etc.
Thankyou all for your kindness and friendship.
I will e mail you personally to keep in touch.
THANKS AGAIN
OSCAR............... WITH SADNESS :-1
as a complete newbie to this forum i had absolutely no idea what had been going on with Oscar.there was i prattling on to her like some train spotting geek driving her nuts about rock gigs.blah blah blah, not realising what Oscar had on her plate.i don’t want to talk out of turn here but for what it’s worth Oscar, i completely, utterly 100% support you and by the articles that I have read subsequently, so does the rest of the world and there’s no doubt about that.
Oscar’s bravery in taking a personal stand against these arrogant, aggressive, destructive little thugs has made a huge impact and touched a raw nerve amongst good people who stand by and do nothing, and there’s every reason why it should have done so, but my question is, why does everyone agree that Oscar was right, yet the powers that be are not able or willing to do anything about it?. we have allowed our society here in UK to be turned on it’s head and have all sat back and fiddled whilst Rome burned. we have many different culture groups in the UK and many of them retain an admirable relationship with old fashioned morals and ideals and many Asian and Chinese friends of mine are aghast at the complete lack of respect other groups have toward the society that they live amongst whilst they struggle to maintain their fundamental core values with their own children. i deeply admire those groups who demand respect from their children and in the area where i live it is noticeable that the Asian and Chinese communities could teach the rest of us ‘Brits’ many things that we have been forced or chosen to forget.
so¦¦..the day has finally come when a woman can be abused by a baying 25 strong mob of anti social yobs for trying to make them realise that destroying and defacing a war memorial is unacceptable only to be hissed and snarled at with all the fury and confidence of a pack of feral brats that know that they can do whatever they like and get away with it and then, to add insult to injury, for her to be charged with doing something that all of us should instinctively do at every opportunity we get and it makes me sick to my stomach.
I’m sure it’s all been said somewhere in this forum but in my opinion what has happened to Oscar is completely indicative of the breakdown of society in UK in general. i live in London and to a point, vandalism and anti social behaviour is second nature to many kids, especially those lumped together on huge council sink estates and it is something we all live with on a daily basis and i suppose the main difference with big cities and the shires is that in London there are vast swathes of anonymous people living together and nobody interacts or cares at all. the destruction and defacing of buildings and monuments with graffiti and mindless damage has, sadly, been accepted as a fact of life and confronting these young adults is a very, very dangerous proposition in more ways than one and your just as likely to end up in prison for standing up to them as you are to get a knife in your guts. in many respects i feel deeply ashamed that we have allowed this pinko liberal agenda to flourish and exist in the rampant form that it now takes and the authorities, such as they are, will eventually intellectualise us all to death.
ultimately i think it all comes down to one word ‘respect’ and the total lack of it. most of us in here are of a certain age when we still had some ‘respect’ when we were children and the idea of aggressive confrontation with your school teachers or even insulting and abusing adults was something that was just not done. we have allowed this to happen, we have sat back and witnessed the destruction of the concept of ‘respect’ for other people and property and we are all culpable and responsible (i speak for myself there).
in the UK there is an almost unassailable politically correct social services circus full of bloated ego maniacal tree huggers who are backed by an ever toothless police force who have been manacled and manipulated by the self serving human rights fascists and legal monkeys who know that there is ‘gold in them there hills’ if they can convince everyone that these little brutes should be steadfastly defended and their social and human rights be paramount in any legal proceedings against them, whatever the little ba***ds have done.
the legal system in this country is considered by many to the best in the world, well i dispute that completely and believe that it is time for an overhaul. what has always been lacking in British legal consideration is ‘passion’ and i think we could take a leaf out of the French system which allows some consideration for passion to play a part in the examination of the events that bring someone to court and particularly those good honest people like Oscar who would otherwise never have been there in a million friggin years. i read a great saying once which basically boasted about the British justice system treating everyone the same i.e. a multi millionaire who was caught shoplifting food would be treated the same as a penniless starving vagrant who committed the same crime and this example highlights exactly what i am trying to say because quite clearly the crime is the same but was committed by the two individuals for completely different reasons and motives and in agreeing that the system would not interpret that or differentiate between the two examples highlights the failings of our system which has now become glaringly and scarily devoid of basic logic..
when i was a kid, not more than 6 or 7 i was sat at my desk during one break time, alone. on the school teachers desk was a small watch which had been removed by a classmate and given to the teacher for safe keeping. I had never had a watch and this thing fascinated me and for some reason I took it. someone put two and two together and worked out that the likely thief was me. my mum confronted me about this incident at the end of the following day and I had to admit that I was guilty. The sense of relief was almost overwhelming because I really never wished to deprive anyone of their belongings and i really do not know what had come over me and the watch, however briefly, was hidden in my draw like a ticking hand grenade. anyway, i was made to walk to this particular girls flat on my own, walk up the stairs, ring on the bell and give her back her watch and apologise to her and her mum and dad and this I duly did with my heart thumping and a sense of guilt that lives with me to this day.as she shut the door i started to cry and scooted down those stairs and ran as fast as i could for as long as i could to try and blot out my shame and embarrassment. the next few days were awkward but to her undying credit she never told the other classmates what i had done or i guess i would have had a very hard time. this incident taught me something that money cannot buy. i had done something wrong and I had been forced to put that right by parents and school teachers who were determined to show me that what i had done was unacceptable.
i’m glad that incident happened way back when it did because these days i would probably been given a chubby trauma councillor, a new bike and maybe a few weeks enjoying myself at some wayward outward bound centre to try and get over the stress of it all, well the fact is, I never did get over it and still recall it to this day because the message delivered to me on that occasion , at her door, looking in to her forgiving eyes was simple, if you want to steal, hurt or mindlessly destroy other peoples possessions, you will get caught and when you do you will be dealt with and punished.
obviously, not any more
good luck Oscar
Ludwig
For one, I have to go back to work full time, another is that events in my personal life need my full attention and i will also be away here and there visiting relitives in the next few weeks.
There is so much happening at the moment that i need to give my full time attention to my personal life.
I must say thankyou to all the special friends i have made on FG espescially, Odie, Duckie, Carolly, Spot, galbally, gmc, mikie etc etc etc.
Thankyou all for your kindness and friendship.
I will e mail you personally to keep in touch.
THANKS AGAIN
OSCAR............... WITH SADNESS :-1
as a complete newbie to this forum i had absolutely no idea what had been going on with Oscar.there was i prattling on to her like some train spotting geek driving her nuts about rock gigs.blah blah blah, not realising what Oscar had on her plate.i don’t want to talk out of turn here but for what it’s worth Oscar, i completely, utterly 100% support you and by the articles that I have read subsequently, so does the rest of the world and there’s no doubt about that.
Oscar’s bravery in taking a personal stand against these arrogant, aggressive, destructive little thugs has made a huge impact and touched a raw nerve amongst good people who stand by and do nothing, and there’s every reason why it should have done so, but my question is, why does everyone agree that Oscar was right, yet the powers that be are not able or willing to do anything about it?. we have allowed our society here in UK to be turned on it’s head and have all sat back and fiddled whilst Rome burned. we have many different culture groups in the UK and many of them retain an admirable relationship with old fashioned morals and ideals and many Asian and Chinese friends of mine are aghast at the complete lack of respect other groups have toward the society that they live amongst whilst they struggle to maintain their fundamental core values with their own children. i deeply admire those groups who demand respect from their children and in the area where i live it is noticeable that the Asian and Chinese communities could teach the rest of us ‘Brits’ many things that we have been forced or chosen to forget.
so¦¦..the day has finally come when a woman can be abused by a baying 25 strong mob of anti social yobs for trying to make them realise that destroying and defacing a war memorial is unacceptable only to be hissed and snarled at with all the fury and confidence of a pack of feral brats that know that they can do whatever they like and get away with it and then, to add insult to injury, for her to be charged with doing something that all of us should instinctively do at every opportunity we get and it makes me sick to my stomach.
I’m sure it’s all been said somewhere in this forum but in my opinion what has happened to Oscar is completely indicative of the breakdown of society in UK in general. i live in London and to a point, vandalism and anti social behaviour is second nature to many kids, especially those lumped together on huge council sink estates and it is something we all live with on a daily basis and i suppose the main difference with big cities and the shires is that in London there are vast swathes of anonymous people living together and nobody interacts or cares at all. the destruction and defacing of buildings and monuments with graffiti and mindless damage has, sadly, been accepted as a fact of life and confronting these young adults is a very, very dangerous proposition in more ways than one and your just as likely to end up in prison for standing up to them as you are to get a knife in your guts. in many respects i feel deeply ashamed that we have allowed this pinko liberal agenda to flourish and exist in the rampant form that it now takes and the authorities, such as they are, will eventually intellectualise us all to death.
ultimately i think it all comes down to one word ‘respect’ and the total lack of it. most of us in here are of a certain age when we still had some ‘respect’ when we were children and the idea of aggressive confrontation with your school teachers or even insulting and abusing adults was something that was just not done. we have allowed this to happen, we have sat back and witnessed the destruction of the concept of ‘respect’ for other people and property and we are all culpable and responsible (i speak for myself there).
in the UK there is an almost unassailable politically correct social services circus full of bloated ego maniacal tree huggers who are backed by an ever toothless police force who have been manacled and manipulated by the self serving human rights fascists and legal monkeys who know that there is ‘gold in them there hills’ if they can convince everyone that these little brutes should be steadfastly defended and their social and human rights be paramount in any legal proceedings against them, whatever the little ba***ds have done.
the legal system in this country is considered by many to the best in the world, well i dispute that completely and believe that it is time for an overhaul. what has always been lacking in British legal consideration is ‘passion’ and i think we could take a leaf out of the French system which allows some consideration for passion to play a part in the examination of the events that bring someone to court and particularly those good honest people like Oscar who would otherwise never have been there in a million friggin years. i read a great saying once which basically boasted about the British justice system treating everyone the same i.e. a multi millionaire who was caught shoplifting food would be treated the same as a penniless starving vagrant who committed the same crime and this example highlights exactly what i am trying to say because quite clearly the crime is the same but was committed by the two individuals for completely different reasons and motives and in agreeing that the system would not interpret that or differentiate between the two examples highlights the failings of our system which has now become glaringly and scarily devoid of basic logic..
when i was a kid, not more than 6 or 7 i was sat at my desk during one break time, alone. on the school teachers desk was a small watch which had been removed by a classmate and given to the teacher for safe keeping. I had never had a watch and this thing fascinated me and for some reason I took it. someone put two and two together and worked out that the likely thief was me. my mum confronted me about this incident at the end of the following day and I had to admit that I was guilty. The sense of relief was almost overwhelming because I really never wished to deprive anyone of their belongings and i really do not know what had come over me and the watch, however briefly, was hidden in my draw like a ticking hand grenade. anyway, i was made to walk to this particular girls flat on my own, walk up the stairs, ring on the bell and give her back her watch and apologise to her and her mum and dad and this I duly did with my heart thumping and a sense of guilt that lives with me to this day.as she shut the door i started to cry and scooted down those stairs and ran as fast as i could for as long as i could to try and blot out my shame and embarrassment. the next few days were awkward but to her undying credit she never told the other classmates what i had done or i guess i would have had a very hard time. this incident taught me something that money cannot buy. i had done something wrong and I had been forced to put that right by parents and school teachers who were determined to show me that what i had done was unacceptable.
i’m glad that incident happened way back when it did because these days i would probably been given a chubby trauma councillor, a new bike and maybe a few weeks enjoying myself at some wayward outward bound centre to try and get over the stress of it all, well the fact is, I never did get over it and still recall it to this day because the message delivered to me on that occasion , at her door, looking in to her forgiving eyes was simple, if you want to steal, hurt or mindlessly destroy other peoples possessions, you will get caught and when you do you will be dealt with and punished.
obviously, not any more
good luck Oscar
Ludwig
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Carolly;1104804 wrote: I will be talking to Oscar later and im gonna tell her you and Jim have kidnapped her Thread:p:rolleyes::D:guitarist
I just phoned here, its only 5 cents per minute, an hour would have only cost me 3.00-----she was not at home!:-5:-5
you know where she is don't you?
she's with that BROWN guy!:sneaky:
so since he is more important than Odie, fine, I will go for my nana nap!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
I just phoned here, its only 5 cents per minute, an hour would have only cost me 3.00-----she was not at home!:-5:-5
you know where she is don't you?
she's with that BROWN guy!:sneaky:
so since he is more important than Odie, fine, I will go for my nana nap!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
Life is just to short for drama.
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My good friend up at school who is a lunch mom had a kid tell her off...well, she freaked out on him and told him this wasn't his school, ect. and all the 8th grade boys came and cheered her on when she was telling this brat off! He slunked off to the classroom and never done it since. Yes it is called respect and some kids are nice & show it and others think they can just walk right over you and not expect you to stand up for yourself.
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Ludwig Van B;1105098 wrote: the legal system in this country is considered by many to the best in the world, well i dispute that completely and believe that it is time for an overhaul. what has always been lacking in British legal consideration is ‘passion’ and i think we could take a leaf out of the French system which allows some consideration for passion to play a part in the examination of the events that bring someone to court and particularly those good honest people like Oscar who would otherwise never have been there in a million friggin years. i read a great saying once which basically boasted about the British justice system treating everyone the same i.e. a multi millionaire who was caught shoplifting food would be treated the same as a penniless starving vagrant who committed the same crime and this example highlights exactly what i am trying to say because quite clearly the crime is the same but was committed by the two individuals for completely different reasons and motives and in agreeing that the system would not interpret that or differentiate between the two examples highlights the failings of our system which has now become glaringly and scarily devoid of basic logic..
A good post, Ludwig.
FYI, I remember hearing a news item on the radio late last year while I was at work saying that the government is going to consider this issue and redress the balance. They have finally acknowledged that the humanitarian laws are placing honest law-abiding citizens at odds with the law with the villains gaining the upper hand all the time. It has been accepted that people no longer have any faith in the law.
Unfortunately, this won't happen quickly as they intend to research the matter first.
A good post, Ludwig.
FYI, I remember hearing a news item on the radio late last year while I was at work saying that the government is going to consider this issue and redress the balance. They have finally acknowledged that the humanitarian laws are placing honest law-abiding citizens at odds with the law with the villains gaining the upper hand all the time. It has been accepted that people no longer have any faith in the law.
Unfortunately, this won't happen quickly as they intend to research the matter first.
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Sorry Odie and carolly :-1
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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oscar;1105309 wrote: Sorry Odie and carolly :-1
feel better.
feel better.
Life is just to short for drama.
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posted by ludwig van b
the legal system in this country is considered by many to the best in the world, well i dispute that completely and believe that it is time for an overhaul. what has always been lacking in British legal consideration is ‘passion’ and i think we could take a leaf out of the French system which allows some consideration for passion to play a part in the examination of the events that bring someone to court and particularly those good honest people like Oscar who would otherwise never have been there in a million friggin years. i read a great saying once which basically boasted about the British justice system treating everyone the same i.e. a multi millionaire who was caught shoplifting food would be treated the same as a penniless starving vagrant who committed the same crime and this example highlights exactly what i am trying to say because quite clearly the crime is the same but was committed by the two individuals for completely different reasons and motives and in agreeing that the system would not interpret that or differentiate between the two examples highlights the failings of our system which has now become glaringly and scarily devoid of basic logic..
That's why we have the jury system in this country. it is up to them to take in to account the passion involved in someone's action and decide whether passion was a mitigating factor or not. Nor do we need tocopy their inquisitorial system thank you very much. Course oscar's hero gordie boy is part of a government that has successfully eroded the right to a jury trial. We shopuld also keep to our presumption od innocenceOur system is not perfect but you will notice it eventually came right for oscar.
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the legal system in this country is considered by many to the best in the world, well i dispute that completely and believe that it is time for an overhaul. what has always been lacking in British legal consideration is ‘passion’ and i think we could take a leaf out of the French system which allows some consideration for passion to play a part in the examination of the events that bring someone to court and particularly those good honest people like Oscar who would otherwise never have been there in a million friggin years. i read a great saying once which basically boasted about the British justice system treating everyone the same i.e. a multi millionaire who was caught shoplifting food would be treated the same as a penniless starving vagrant who committed the same crime and this example highlights exactly what i am trying to say because quite clearly the crime is the same but was committed by the two individuals for completely different reasons and motives and in agreeing that the system would not interpret that or differentiate between the two examples highlights the failings of our system which has now become glaringly and scarily devoid of basic logic..
That's why we have the jury system in this country. it is up to them to take in to account the passion involved in someone's action and decide whether passion was a mitigating factor or not. Nor do we need tocopy their inquisitorial system thank you very much. Course oscar's hero gordie boy is part of a government that has successfully eroded the right to a jury trial. We shopuld also keep to our presumption od innocenceOur system is not perfect but you will notice it eventually came right for oscar.
OSCAR a thought of the day to take away with you
YouTube - Gordon Brown: I'm A Wanker
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gmc;1105698 wrote: posted by ludwig van b
That's why we have the jury system in this country. it is up to them to take in to account the passion involved in someone's action and decide whether passion was a mitigating factor or not. Nor do we need tocopy their inquisitorial system thank you very much. Course oscar's hero gordie boy is part of a government that has successfully eroded the right to a jury trial. We shopuld also keep to our presumption od innocenceOur system is not perfect but you will notice it eventually came right for oscar.
OSCAR a thought of the day to take away with you
YouTube - Gordon Brown: I'm A Wanker
But you have to fight. How many more are out there like me who couldn't fight the system or who were not fortunate like me to have councillors and MP's jump on their case or the media attention?
I have just said on the other thread that i have just finished an interview with the press association and the article should be out by tuesday. They are going to name and shame now i have the proof the officer lied under oath. The reason she did it, was simply because she never believed anyone would question her. She had a uniform on so in her eyes she was unquestionable even though she knew, we knew she gave a load of cobblers under oath. How many others are there?
That's why we have the jury system in this country. it is up to them to take in to account the passion involved in someone's action and decide whether passion was a mitigating factor or not. Nor do we need tocopy their inquisitorial system thank you very much. Course oscar's hero gordie boy is part of a government that has successfully eroded the right to a jury trial. We shopuld also keep to our presumption od innocenceOur system is not perfect but you will notice it eventually came right for oscar.
OSCAR a thought of the day to take away with you
YouTube - Gordon Brown: I'm A Wanker
But you have to fight. How many more are out there like me who couldn't fight the system or who were not fortunate like me to have councillors and MP's jump on their case or the media attention?
I have just said on the other thread that i have just finished an interview with the press association and the article should be out by tuesday. They are going to name and shame now i have the proof the officer lied under oath. The reason she did it, was simply because she never believed anyone would question her. She had a uniform on so in her eyes she was unquestionable even though she knew, we knew she gave a load of cobblers under oath. How many others are there?
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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oscar;1105711 wrote: But you have to fight. How many more are out there like me who couldn't fight the system or who were not fortunate like me to have councillors and MP's jump on their case or the media attention?
I have just said on the other thread that i have just finished an interview with the press association and the article should be out by tuesday. They are going to name and shame now i have the proof the officer lied under oath. The reason she did it, was simply because she never believed anyone would question her. She had a uniform on so in her eyes she was unquestionable even though she knew, we knew she gave a load of cobblers under oath. How many others are there?
Probably not as many as there used to be.
Next time you see a thread calling for the police to do more about scum bags or take action against yobos on the street and why can't they just arrest those they know are responsible and let's execute the little b=------s as a deterrent and let's have more respect for authority just remember why we don't allow our police such draconian powers. You've experienced at first hand what can happen if police powers are not curbed and criminals are not given right of appeal. Yes you were a criminal, you were arrested and charged and found guilty. Just because someone has been arrested does not mean they are guilty. It's not a perfect system by any means but anyone that claims they can make it so should probably not be given the chance to do it. Human rights isn't about protecting the rights of criminals it's about protecting your own rights. You've just had a first hand lesson on what it can mean in reality.
I have just said on the other thread that i have just finished an interview with the press association and the article should be out by tuesday. They are going to name and shame now i have the proof the officer lied under oath. The reason she did it, was simply because she never believed anyone would question her. She had a uniform on so in her eyes she was unquestionable even though she knew, we knew she gave a load of cobblers under oath. How many others are there?
Probably not as many as there used to be.
Next time you see a thread calling for the police to do more about scum bags or take action against yobos on the street and why can't they just arrest those they know are responsible and let's execute the little b=------s as a deterrent and let's have more respect for authority just remember why we don't allow our police such draconian powers. You've experienced at first hand what can happen if police powers are not curbed and criminals are not given right of appeal. Yes you were a criminal, you were arrested and charged and found guilty. Just because someone has been arrested does not mean they are guilty. It's not a perfect system by any means but anyone that claims they can make it so should probably not be given the chance to do it. Human rights isn't about protecting the rights of criminals it's about protecting your own rights. You've just had a first hand lesson on what it can mean in reality.
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gmc;1107457 wrote: Probably not as many as there used to be.
Next time you see a thread calling for the police to do more about scum bags or take action against yobos on the street and why can't they just arrest those they know are responsible and let's execute the little b=------s as a deterrent and let's have more respect for authority just remember why we don't allow our police such draconian powers. You've experienced at first hand what can happen if police powers are not curbed and criminals are not given right of appeal. Yes you were a criminal, you were arrested and charged and found guilty. Just because someone has been arrested does not mean they are guilty. It's not a perfect system by any means but anyone that claims they can make it so should probably not be given the chance to do it. Human rights isn't about protecting the rights of criminals it's about protecting your own rights. You've just had a first hand lesson on what it can mean in reality.
I must say, that i have learnt a great deal since my experience, and i'm more inclined to see that criminals must have rights as well. Since my case went National, i have constantly recieved a flow of letters from others who have been treated like myself. I have to reply to a letter i had recently from a guy in prison in Scotland.
In my case, there was just no motive. The gang were known to have caused trouble for approx two years. Other members of the public had confronted them with it turning nasty as well in the past. I was a 50 yr old woman who had never come before the police except to help them.
When i won the right to an internal investigation, one senior officer told me that they get officers who are ambitious and purely target driven. That has to come down to government text book targets. He also said, they did not want officers in the force such as the one i had to deal with.
The entire investigation was carried out by her. She took all the statements and when she was offered two adult witnesses, one from one of the youths and one from my-self, she buried them. She also buried a 999 call made from a member of the public who was to frightened to intervene but she asked for police help for me and not the alleged victem. It was only due to my lawyers own investigation that he found this 999 call and the transcript was read out in court. I got some smug satisfaction when the youth's best friend and chief witness admited under cross examination that they had lied in their police statements.
In that off the record conversation, the senior officer told us that my officer had been investigated before. Also, before me, she had arrested a 72 yr old woman who ordered a yob off her property. He said that my officer probably assumed that i was going to be another easy caution and another notch on her truncheon. So much so, that although i never denied throwing his bike in the road, (I did that when his mate threatened to kill my dog)she thought it was a simple caution and never bothered to view the bike, photograph it or even get a reciept for any damage. Even in court, the youth admited he had no reciept. It was when i refused the caution that things went horribly wrong for. then a famous lawyer steps in along with the country's press.
The officer blatently lied under oath and i believe from her arrogance, she just never believed that she was questionable due to her having a uniform on.
I am hoping the press will also report along with her being found guilty of lying under oath that she was also found guilty of mis-conduct during my trial. The court heard the youths admit that one was damaging the war memorial and the Judge recognised this in his summing up. The public gallery was packed with war vets who were there to protest about years of vandalism to the memorial and no police action. On hearing the guilty verdict, she jumped up from the public gallery, punched the air and shouted 'Yes'. She then ran outside to where there were other officers and she was seen running down the stairs shouting 'Yippee'. What a ****ing stupid bitch????
Who the hell wants coppers like that in the force???? And how are we meant to show them the respect they think they deserve??
Next time you see a thread calling for the police to do more about scum bags or take action against yobos on the street and why can't they just arrest those they know are responsible and let's execute the little b=------s as a deterrent and let's have more respect for authority just remember why we don't allow our police such draconian powers. You've experienced at first hand what can happen if police powers are not curbed and criminals are not given right of appeal. Yes you were a criminal, you were arrested and charged and found guilty. Just because someone has been arrested does not mean they are guilty. It's not a perfect system by any means but anyone that claims they can make it so should probably not be given the chance to do it. Human rights isn't about protecting the rights of criminals it's about protecting your own rights. You've just had a first hand lesson on what it can mean in reality.
I must say, that i have learnt a great deal since my experience, and i'm more inclined to see that criminals must have rights as well. Since my case went National, i have constantly recieved a flow of letters from others who have been treated like myself. I have to reply to a letter i had recently from a guy in prison in Scotland.
In my case, there was just no motive. The gang were known to have caused trouble for approx two years. Other members of the public had confronted them with it turning nasty as well in the past. I was a 50 yr old woman who had never come before the police except to help them.
When i won the right to an internal investigation, one senior officer told me that they get officers who are ambitious and purely target driven. That has to come down to government text book targets. He also said, they did not want officers in the force such as the one i had to deal with.
The entire investigation was carried out by her. She took all the statements and when she was offered two adult witnesses, one from one of the youths and one from my-self, she buried them. She also buried a 999 call made from a member of the public who was to frightened to intervene but she asked for police help for me and not the alleged victem. It was only due to my lawyers own investigation that he found this 999 call and the transcript was read out in court. I got some smug satisfaction when the youth's best friend and chief witness admited under cross examination that they had lied in their police statements.
In that off the record conversation, the senior officer told us that my officer had been investigated before. Also, before me, she had arrested a 72 yr old woman who ordered a yob off her property. He said that my officer probably assumed that i was going to be another easy caution and another notch on her truncheon. So much so, that although i never denied throwing his bike in the road, (I did that when his mate threatened to kill my dog)she thought it was a simple caution and never bothered to view the bike, photograph it or even get a reciept for any damage. Even in court, the youth admited he had no reciept. It was when i refused the caution that things went horribly wrong for. then a famous lawyer steps in along with the country's press.
The officer blatently lied under oath and i believe from her arrogance, she just never believed that she was questionable due to her having a uniform on.
I am hoping the press will also report along with her being found guilty of lying under oath that she was also found guilty of mis-conduct during my trial. The court heard the youths admit that one was damaging the war memorial and the Judge recognised this in his summing up. The public gallery was packed with war vets who were there to protest about years of vandalism to the memorial and no police action. On hearing the guilty verdict, she jumped up from the public gallery, punched the air and shouted 'Yes'. She then ran outside to where there were other officers and she was seen running down the stairs shouting 'Yippee'. What a ****ing stupid bitch????
Who the hell wants coppers like that in the force???? And how are we meant to show them the respect they think they deserve??
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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posted by oscar
I must say, that i have learnt a great deal since my experience, and i'm more inclined to see that criminals must have rights as well.
They're not criminals till they are found guilty. Our laws are actually there to curb the power of the authorities not just to control criminals. The most fundamental freedom is not being subject to arrest at the whim of someone in authority.
Dealing with yobs is one of the hardest things the police have to do and it's easy to go the other way and assume every kid is a thug-(especially if you read the Daily mail:sneaky:) You can't just arrest someone on the word of one witness without further corroboration.
I was talking to one of our local policemen who had been called in by some householders complaining about teenagers congregating. What were they doing? just standing around going to cause trouble, when did they all go home when it went dark. He'd actually been called out by someone complaining about teenagers in a local park and expected to do "something" about it. Yet another complaint about police turning a blind eye to yobs. we get teenagers near us in the open where I walk my dog because they are being chased from where they live for congregating. Most of them are OK and friendly but I have neighbours that are now convinced they will be attacked if they go near them.
posted by oscar
I am hoping the press will also report along with her being found guilty of lying under oath that she was also found guilty of mis-conduct during my trial. The court heard the youths admit that one was damaging the war memorial and the Judge recognised this in his summing up. The public gallery was packed with war vets who were there to protest about years of vandalism to the memorial and no police action. On hearing the guilty verdict, she jumped up from the public gallery, punched the air and shouted 'Yes'. She then ran outside to where there were other officers and she was seen running down the stairs shouting 'Yippee'. What a ****ing stupid bitch????
It won't though will it? not such a good front page headline.
Who the hell wants coppers like that in the force???? And how are we meant to show them the respect they think they deserve??
Most policemen don't want them either.
I must say, that i have learnt a great deal since my experience, and i'm more inclined to see that criminals must have rights as well.
They're not criminals till they are found guilty. Our laws are actually there to curb the power of the authorities not just to control criminals. The most fundamental freedom is not being subject to arrest at the whim of someone in authority.
Dealing with yobs is one of the hardest things the police have to do and it's easy to go the other way and assume every kid is a thug-(especially if you read the Daily mail:sneaky:) You can't just arrest someone on the word of one witness without further corroboration.
I was talking to one of our local policemen who had been called in by some householders complaining about teenagers congregating. What were they doing? just standing around going to cause trouble, when did they all go home when it went dark. He'd actually been called out by someone complaining about teenagers in a local park and expected to do "something" about it. Yet another complaint about police turning a blind eye to yobs. we get teenagers near us in the open where I walk my dog because they are being chased from where they live for congregating. Most of them are OK and friendly but I have neighbours that are now convinced they will be attacked if they go near them.
posted by oscar
I am hoping the press will also report along with her being found guilty of lying under oath that she was also found guilty of mis-conduct during my trial. The court heard the youths admit that one was damaging the war memorial and the Judge recognised this in his summing up. The public gallery was packed with war vets who were there to protest about years of vandalism to the memorial and no police action. On hearing the guilty verdict, she jumped up from the public gallery, punched the air and shouted 'Yes'. She then ran outside to where there were other officers and she was seen running down the stairs shouting 'Yippee'. What a ****ing stupid bitch????
It won't though will it? not such a good front page headline.
Who the hell wants coppers like that in the force???? And how are we meant to show them the respect they think they deserve??
Most policemen don't want them either.
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posted by oscar
I must say, that i have learnt a great deal since my experience, and i'm more inclined to see that criminals must have rights as well.
They're not criminals till they are found guilty. Our laws and due process are actually there to curb the power of the authorities not just to control criminals. The most fundamental freedom is not being subject to arrest at the whim of someone in authority.
Dealing with yobs is one of the hardest things the police have to do and it's easy to go the other way and assume every kid is a thug-(especially if you read the Daily mail:sneaky:) You can't just arrest someone on the word of one witness without further corroboration.
I was talking to one of our local policemen who had been called in by some householders complaining about teenagers congregating. What were they doing? just standing around going to cause trouble, when did they all go home when it went dark. He'd actually been called out by someone complaining about teenagers in a local park who were doing nothing wrong or illegal except be boisterous and expected to do "something" about it. Yet another complaint about police turning a blind eye to yobs. we get teenagers near us in the open where I walk my dog because they are being chased from where they live for congregating. Most of them are OK and friendly but I have neighbours that are now convinced they will be attacked if they go near them.
posted by oscar
I am hoping the press will also report along with her being found guilty of lying under oath that she was also found guilty of mis-conduct during my trial. The court heard the youths admit that one was damaging the war memorial and the Judge recognised this in his summing up. The public gallery was packed with war vets who were there to protest about years of vandalism to the memorial and no police action. On hearing the guilty verdict, she jumped up from the public gallery, punched the air and shouted 'Yes'. She then ran outside to where there were other officers and she was seen running down the stairs shouting 'Yippee'. What a ****ing stupid bitch????
It won't though will it? not such a good front page headline.
Who the hell wants coppers like that in the force???? And how are we meant to show them the respect they think they deserve??
Most policemen don't want them either.
So are you going or what daily mail reader woman.
I must say, that i have learnt a great deal since my experience, and i'm more inclined to see that criminals must have rights as well.
They're not criminals till they are found guilty. Our laws and due process are actually there to curb the power of the authorities not just to control criminals. The most fundamental freedom is not being subject to arrest at the whim of someone in authority.
Dealing with yobs is one of the hardest things the police have to do and it's easy to go the other way and assume every kid is a thug-(especially if you read the Daily mail:sneaky:) You can't just arrest someone on the word of one witness without further corroboration.
I was talking to one of our local policemen who had been called in by some householders complaining about teenagers congregating. What were they doing? just standing around going to cause trouble, when did they all go home when it went dark. He'd actually been called out by someone complaining about teenagers in a local park who were doing nothing wrong or illegal except be boisterous and expected to do "something" about it. Yet another complaint about police turning a blind eye to yobs. we get teenagers near us in the open where I walk my dog because they are being chased from where they live for congregating. Most of them are OK and friendly but I have neighbours that are now convinced they will be attacked if they go near them.
posted by oscar
I am hoping the press will also report along with her being found guilty of lying under oath that she was also found guilty of mis-conduct during my trial. The court heard the youths admit that one was damaging the war memorial and the Judge recognised this in his summing up. The public gallery was packed with war vets who were there to protest about years of vandalism to the memorial and no police action. On hearing the guilty verdict, she jumped up from the public gallery, punched the air and shouted 'Yes'. She then ran outside to where there were other officers and she was seen running down the stairs shouting 'Yippee'. What a ****ing stupid bitch????
It won't though will it? not such a good front page headline.
Who the hell wants coppers like that in the force???? And how are we meant to show them the respect they think they deserve??
Most policemen don't want them either.
So are you going or what daily mail reader woman.
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gmc;1108150 wrote: posted by oscar
They're not criminals till they are found guilty. Our laws and due process are actually there to curb the power of the authorities not just to control criminals. The most fundamental freedom is not being subject to arrest at the whim of someone in authority.
Dealing with yobs is one of the hardest things the police have to do and it's easy to go the other way and assume every kid is a thug-(especially if you read the Daily mail:sneaky:) You can't just arrest someone on the word of one witness without further corroboration.
I was talking to one of our local policemen who had been called in by some householders complaining about teenagers congregating. What were they doing? just standing around going to cause trouble, when did they all go home when it went dark. He'd actually been called out by someone complaining about teenagers in a local park who were doing nothing wrong or illegal except be boisterous and expected to do "something" about it. Yet another complaint about police turning a blind eye to yobs. we get teenagers near us in the open where I walk my dog because they are being chased from where they live for congregating. Most of them are OK and friendly but I have neighbours that are now convinced they will be attacked if they go near them.
posted by oscar
It won't though will it? not such a good front page headline.
Most policemen don't want them either.
So are you going or what daily mail reader woman.
I agree with every thing you say. Our village is very small and we have an upper school that kicks out 1,200 kids every day. In an off the record conversation with a SGT, i agreed with him that 99% of the kids there were great kids. It was the other 1% that ruined it for all of them.
We have a public Primary school and park right outside our lounge windows and front door. For years we have had congregations of teenagers gathering in the park yet in all the years we have lived here, we have never had any real problems with them. My neighbour only has to spot 6 of them late at night and he's calling the police.
As for the congregations at our war memorial, the police have even gone to press admiting there was a real problem there for some years. I am not the only member of the public who has had a run in with this gang where it has turned nasty. I have witnessed it myself three times and one night my husband had to pull a middle aged man off one of them. The police viewed cctv footage and didn't press charges as they agreed that he was severly baited. After what happened to me, there is no way anyone is ever going to confront them again.
Do you want me go then my little sporran fiddler??????
They're not criminals till they are found guilty. Our laws and due process are actually there to curb the power of the authorities not just to control criminals. The most fundamental freedom is not being subject to arrest at the whim of someone in authority.
Dealing with yobs is one of the hardest things the police have to do and it's easy to go the other way and assume every kid is a thug-(especially if you read the Daily mail:sneaky:) You can't just arrest someone on the word of one witness without further corroboration.
I was talking to one of our local policemen who had been called in by some householders complaining about teenagers congregating. What were they doing? just standing around going to cause trouble, when did they all go home when it went dark. He'd actually been called out by someone complaining about teenagers in a local park who were doing nothing wrong or illegal except be boisterous and expected to do "something" about it. Yet another complaint about police turning a blind eye to yobs. we get teenagers near us in the open where I walk my dog because they are being chased from where they live for congregating. Most of them are OK and friendly but I have neighbours that are now convinced they will be attacked if they go near them.
posted by oscar
It won't though will it? not such a good front page headline.
Most policemen don't want them either.
So are you going or what daily mail reader woman.
I agree with every thing you say. Our village is very small and we have an upper school that kicks out 1,200 kids every day. In an off the record conversation with a SGT, i agreed with him that 99% of the kids there were great kids. It was the other 1% that ruined it for all of them.
We have a public Primary school and park right outside our lounge windows and front door. For years we have had congregations of teenagers gathering in the park yet in all the years we have lived here, we have never had any real problems with them. My neighbour only has to spot 6 of them late at night and he's calling the police.
As for the congregations at our war memorial, the police have even gone to press admiting there was a real problem there for some years. I am not the only member of the public who has had a run in with this gang where it has turned nasty. I have witnessed it myself three times and one night my husband had to pull a middle aged man off one of them. The police viewed cctv footage and didn't press charges as they agreed that he was severly baited. After what happened to me, there is no way anyone is ever going to confront them again.
Do you want me go then my little sporran fiddler??????
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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oscar;1108163 wrote: I agree with every thing you say. Our village is very small and we have an upper school that kicks out 1,200 kids every day. In an off the record conversation with a SGT, i agreed with him that 99% of the kids there were great kids. It was the other 1% that ruined it for all of them.
We have a public Primary school and park right outside our lounge windows and front door. For years we have had congregations of teenagers gathering in the park yet in all the years we have lived here, we have never had any real problems with them. My neighbour only has to spot 6 of them late at night and he's calling the police.
As for the congregations at our war memorial, the police have even gone to press admiting there was a real problem there for some years. I am not the only member of the public who has had a run in with this gang where it has turned nasty. I have witnessed it myself three times and one night my husband had to pull a middle aged man off one of them. The police viewed cctv footage and didn't press charges as they agreed that he was severly baited. After what happened to me, there is no way anyone is ever going to confront them again.
Do you want me go then my little sporran fiddler??????
No I do not want you to go. Your erudition, perspicacity and wit have been a revelation. I would never have believed a daily mail reader capable of rational thought up until now. Even your strange affection for the inhabitant in number 10 downing street has an endearing if slightly surreal and indeed pythonesque quality to it. We have not so much a dream government as a nightmare on downing street with the alternative looking like a me too party waiting it's turn patiantly on the wings.
We need gordon brown worshippers to laugh at and help relieve the gloom please don't go.
We have a public Primary school and park right outside our lounge windows and front door. For years we have had congregations of teenagers gathering in the park yet in all the years we have lived here, we have never had any real problems with them. My neighbour only has to spot 6 of them late at night and he's calling the police.
As for the congregations at our war memorial, the police have even gone to press admiting there was a real problem there for some years. I am not the only member of the public who has had a run in with this gang where it has turned nasty. I have witnessed it myself three times and one night my husband had to pull a middle aged man off one of them. The police viewed cctv footage and didn't press charges as they agreed that he was severly baited. After what happened to me, there is no way anyone is ever going to confront them again.
Do you want me go then my little sporran fiddler??????
No I do not want you to go. Your erudition, perspicacity and wit have been a revelation. I would never have believed a daily mail reader capable of rational thought up until now. Even your strange affection for the inhabitant in number 10 downing street has an endearing if slightly surreal and indeed pythonesque quality to it. We have not so much a dream government as a nightmare on downing street with the alternative looking like a me too party waiting it's turn patiantly on the wings.
We need gordon brown worshippers to laugh at and help relieve the gloom please don't go.
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gmc;1108921 wrote: No I do not want you to go. Your erudition, perspicacity and wit have been a revelation. I would never have believed a daily mail reader capable of rational thought up until now. Even your strange affection for the inhabitant in number 10 downing street has an endearing if slightly surreal and indeed pythonesque quality to it. We have not so much a dream government as a nightmare on downing street with the alternative looking like a me too party waiting it's turn patiantly on the wings.
We need gordon brown worshippers to laugh at and help relieve the gloom please don't go.
Firstly, i assume you've made these long words up as i have never seen them used in The Daily Mail?:sneaky:
How could i possibly leave? Where would i get as much pleasure in following you around the forum sniggering at your posts? :sneaky:
We need gordon brown worshippers to laugh at and help relieve the gloom please don't go.
Firstly, i assume you've made these long words up as i have never seen them used in The Daily Mail?:sneaky:
How could i possibly leave? Where would i get as much pleasure in following you around the forum sniggering at your posts? :sneaky:
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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oscar;1108939 wrote: Firstly, i assume you've made these long words up as i have never seen them used in The Daily Mail?:sneaky:
How could i possibly leave? Where would i get as much pleasure in following you around the forum sniggering at your posts? :sneaky:
tsk tsk.
To help you with the big words
http://www.askoxford.com/?view=uk
How could i possibly leave? Where would i get as much pleasure in following you around the forum sniggering at your posts? :sneaky:
tsk tsk.
To help you with the big words
http://www.askoxford.com/?view=uk
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gmc;1109143 wrote: tsk tsk.
To help you with the big words
AskOxford: Free online dictionary resources from Oxford University Press
That's very gentlemanly auld yin. I'm sure Mr Oscar will appreciate the link also as he reads the 'Sun' everyday and that will be an enormous help. He'd thank you himself but at this minute he's on another forum trying to find out 'How to stop your dog humping chair legs'.
It's a shame your married... I could get to like you in time :yh_rotfl
To help you with the big words
AskOxford: Free online dictionary resources from Oxford University Press
That's very gentlemanly auld yin. I'm sure Mr Oscar will appreciate the link also as he reads the 'Sun' everyday and that will be an enormous help. He'd thank you himself but at this minute he's on another forum trying to find out 'How to stop your dog humping chair legs'.
It's a shame your married... I could get to like you in time :yh_rotfl
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you still here
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el guapo;1109275 wrote: you still here
YEP :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
YEP :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon