We have all heard about the increasing abandoment of pets by people who have been evicted or can no longer financially keep their pet(s).
What about our zoos?
With cutbacks coming to pay for all the bailouts, will the zoo's be able to continue to feed and shelter all the many animals they've collected during the 'good times'?
What are we to do with all these transplanted animals? I hope they will not kill them. How will they select those that they will keep and those they will not............
An economy of animals
An economy of animals
"Out, damned spot! out, I say!"
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Kindle;1113184 wrote: We have all heard about the increasing abandoment of pets by people who have been evicted or can no longer financially keep their pet(s).
What about our zoos?
With cutbacks coming to pay for all the bailouts, will the zoo's be able to continue to feed and shelter all the many animals they've collected during the 'good times'?
What are we to do with all these transplanted animals? I hope they will not kill them. How will they select those that they will keep and those they will not............Regarding zoo's, from what i know, they run the finance the same as any organisation or business. If they invest wisely they shouldn't lose money there. However, visitors decrease in times of hardship and the ticket sales go down.
The zoo's of the world are one big trade in anyway. Most all over the world are in contact with each other on a data base and regually replenish each other or replace lost animals when they die. Naturally, the most en-dangered secies will come first. i.e Orang U Tang and big cats etc.
It depends on your own perception of zoo's. It could be some-where to go and gawp at monkey's or a vital conservation programme to breed and preserve en-dangered specie's. Most are the latter and no zoo is going to destroy any animal in those circumstances. I am sure going by the love and dedication of staff at the zoo some miles from my-self, they would rather take a pay cut if it came to it.
We have many schemes here in the UK to help such as adopt an animal where you get a apckage and up-dates on your animal for a yearly fee.
Zoo's are far too regulated now for any-one to just simply decide to destroy an animal because times are tough. Zoo's are seasonal attractions to the public in any case and ticket sales always plummet in bad weather.
There is no doubt that there will be casualtie's as in the case of 'Knut' the German Polar Bear but as i said, most zoo's operate on a big swop system.
At least in the zoo's they are protected. I'm more concerned about the heartless bastards abandoning their cats and dogs as the rescue centre's here are really struggling to cope now.
What about our zoos?
With cutbacks coming to pay for all the bailouts, will the zoo's be able to continue to feed and shelter all the many animals they've collected during the 'good times'?
What are we to do with all these transplanted animals? I hope they will not kill them. How will they select those that they will keep and those they will not............Regarding zoo's, from what i know, they run the finance the same as any organisation or business. If they invest wisely they shouldn't lose money there. However, visitors decrease in times of hardship and the ticket sales go down.
The zoo's of the world are one big trade in anyway. Most all over the world are in contact with each other on a data base and regually replenish each other or replace lost animals when they die. Naturally, the most en-dangered secies will come first. i.e Orang U Tang and big cats etc.
It depends on your own perception of zoo's. It could be some-where to go and gawp at monkey's or a vital conservation programme to breed and preserve en-dangered specie's. Most are the latter and no zoo is going to destroy any animal in those circumstances. I am sure going by the love and dedication of staff at the zoo some miles from my-self, they would rather take a pay cut if it came to it.
We have many schemes here in the UK to help such as adopt an animal where you get a apckage and up-dates on your animal for a yearly fee.
Zoo's are far too regulated now for any-one to just simply decide to destroy an animal because times are tough. Zoo's are seasonal attractions to the public in any case and ticket sales always plummet in bad weather.
There is no doubt that there will be casualtie's as in the case of 'Knut' the German Polar Bear but as i said, most zoo's operate on a big swop system.
At least in the zoo's they are protected. I'm more concerned about the heartless bastards abandoning their cats and dogs as the rescue centre's here are really struggling to cope now.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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When you think of pets you tend to think of dogs and cats. During the boom year here in Ireland, one pet that every rich little boy or girls like to have are horses.
Unfortunately now, there is a fast growing issues of people who own horses and can no longer afford them, not paying up to the ranches that mind them, plus because they were selling so well, breeders were breeding them.
There is now a glut of horses in Ireland and you can hardly even give them away. A bigger issue is that there is also only 1 abattoir in Ireland for horses (having to kill them wasn’t really an issue before).
Unfortunately now, there is a fast growing issues of people who own horses and can no longer afford them, not paying up to the ranches that mind them, plus because they were selling so well, breeders were breeding them.
There is now a glut of horses in Ireland and you can hardly even give them away. A bigger issue is that there is also only 1 abattoir in Ireland for horses (having to kill them wasn’t really an issue before).
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mikeinie;1113255 wrote: When you think of pets you tend to think of dogs and cats. During the boom year here in Ireland, one pet that every rich little boy or girls like to have are horses.
Unfortunately now, there is a fast growing issues of people who own horses and can no longer afford them, not paying up to the ranches that mind them, plus because they were selling so well, breeders were breeding them.
There is now a glut of horses in Ireland and you can hardly even give them away. A bigger issue is that there is also only 1 abattoir in Ireland for horses (having to kill them wasn’t really an issue before).
How horrible to have to slaughter them cause 'man' created too many is a very sad state of affairs.
Unfortunately now, there is a fast growing issues of people who own horses and can no longer afford them, not paying up to the ranches that mind them, plus because they were selling so well, breeders were breeding them.
There is now a glut of horses in Ireland and you can hardly even give them away. A bigger issue is that there is also only 1 abattoir in Ireland for horses (having to kill them wasn’t really an issue before).
How horrible to have to slaughter them cause 'man' created too many is a very sad state of affairs.
"Out, damned spot! out, I say!"
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Kindle;1113260 wrote: How horrible to have to slaughter them cause 'man' created too many is a very sad state of affairs.
I know, it is not just dogs and cats this happens to. I wonder what other types of animals this kind of 'pet ownership market' will be impacted by the economy.
I know, it is not just dogs and cats this happens to. I wonder what other types of animals this kind of 'pet ownership market' will be impacted by the economy.
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mikeinie;1113263 wrote: I know, it is not just dogs and cats this happens to. I wonder what other types of animals this kind of 'pet ownership market' will be impacted by the economy.
My nephew is one of the few licensed here to breed exotic pets (if you can call them that) that are species banned from importation.
The airports regually seize many a Iguana or Bosch Monitor smuggled into the country and these reptiles including snakes and spiders have to go some-where. They require specialist handling and care such as infa-red heat to survive along with specialised diets.
It will be interesting to ask him if he is having trouble in re-homing now the credit crunch has hit.
My nephew is one of the few licensed here to breed exotic pets (if you can call them that) that are species banned from importation.
The airports regually seize many a Iguana or Bosch Monitor smuggled into the country and these reptiles including snakes and spiders have to go some-where. They require specialist handling and care such as infa-red heat to survive along with specialised diets.
It will be interesting to ask him if he is having trouble in re-homing now the credit crunch has hit.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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oscar;1113341 wrote: My nephew is one of the few licensed here to breed exotic pets (if you can call them that) that are species banned from importation.
The airports regually seize many a Iguana or Bosch Monitor smuggled into the country and these reptiles including snakes and spiders have to go some-where. They require specialist handling and care such as infa-red heat to survive along with specialised diets.
It will be interesting to ask him if he is having trouble in re-homing now the credit crunch has hit.
What an interesting job. I would imagine there'll be an increase if the cost of keeping and treating them becomes an issue.
The airports regually seize many a Iguana or Bosch Monitor smuggled into the country and these reptiles including snakes and spiders have to go some-where. They require specialist handling and care such as infa-red heat to survive along with specialised diets.
It will be interesting to ask him if he is having trouble in re-homing now the credit crunch has hit.
What an interesting job. I would imagine there'll be an increase if the cost of keeping and treating them becomes an issue.
"Out, damned spot! out, I say!"
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They usually give or sell the animals to other zoos who can afford t o keep them. They gave away many animals at the Baltimore Zoo last year, no longer able to pay for their upkeep. But I am glad for some of the animals, the snow leopards I miss, but they had an inadequete cage for such a creature. I hope they are happier elsewhere.
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Kindle;1113370 wrote: What an interesting job. I would imagine there'll be an increase if the cost of keeping and treating them becomes an issue.
It started off as a hobby with him when he was a kid and his own collection just grew. He then started taking the odd siezed exotic in and very soon the airports were ringing him daily. His heating and feed bills are probably on par with a small zoo as his yard has slowly given up to more and more enclosures. As well as the air-ports, he gets called out occassionally if an escaped snake is spotted by a member of the public. He is unfortunately rather careless at times and the odd snake has escaped.
he came home recently and his dad said 'Your in big trouble now..Really big trouble'. 'That black widow spider you lost has just been found on number 4's front door and they've called the police'. :yh_rotfl He went and retrieved it from these horrified neighbours and asked them 'While I'm here.... You haven't spotted an African Tree frog by any chance?' :yh_rotfl
It started off as a hobby with him when he was a kid and his own collection just grew. He then started taking the odd siezed exotic in and very soon the airports were ringing him daily. His heating and feed bills are probably on par with a small zoo as his yard has slowly given up to more and more enclosures. As well as the air-ports, he gets called out occassionally if an escaped snake is spotted by a member of the public. He is unfortunately rather careless at times and the odd snake has escaped.
he came home recently and his dad said 'Your in big trouble now..Really big trouble'. 'That black widow spider you lost has just been found on number 4's front door and they've called the police'. :yh_rotfl He went and retrieved it from these horrified neighbours and asked them 'While I'm here.... You haven't spotted an African Tree frog by any chance?' :yh_rotfl
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chonsigirl;1113381 wrote: They usually give or sell the animals to other zoos who can afford t o keep them. They gave away many animals at the Baltimore Zoo last year, no longer able to pay for their upkeep. But I am glad for some of the animals, the snow leopards I miss, but they had an inadequete cage for such a creature. I hope they are happier elsewhere.
I subscribe to 'Snow Leopard' organisation as sadly, farmers are still shooting them to protect their live-stock dispite them being endangered. We don't have enough of them in our zoo's for my liking. I adore them :-4:-4:-4
I subscribe to 'Snow Leopard' organisation as sadly, farmers are still shooting them to protect their live-stock dispite them being endangered. We don't have enough of them in our zoo's for my liking. I adore them :-4:-4:-4
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They are beautiful animals, and they had a small wire enclosure here. I always felt sorry for them.
I watched a show about the wild cats of Chile/Peru, the Andean Mountain Cats. They look so cool, they are just starting to study them.
I watched a show about the wild cats of Chile/Peru, the Andean Mountain Cats. They look so cool, they are just starting to study them.
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chonsigirl;1113417 wrote: They are beautiful animals, and they had a small wire enclosure here. I always felt sorry for them.
I watched a show about the wild cats of Chile/Peru, the Andean Mountain Cats. They look so cool, they are just starting to study them.
They were hunted to the brink of extinction for their pelts also. Have you seen Canadian Lynx? Very similar in appearence. :-4:-4
I watched a show about the wild cats of Chile/Peru, the Andean Mountain Cats. They look so cool, they are just starting to study them.
They were hunted to the brink of extinction for their pelts also. Have you seen Canadian Lynx? Very similar in appearence. :-4:-4
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon