In light of recent increases in vigilantee groups in Britain, is this wise?
Criminals could be named and shamed... with their convictions printed on posters | Mail Online
Convicted burglars, car thieves and drug dealers may be named and shamed on posters plastered around their home town.
Ministers last night agreed to consider the scheme in the hope that the threat of public humiliation might deter would-be criminals and those at risk of re-offending.
The Government is already committed to publishing the results of court cases online and provides details of the outcome of trials free to local newspapers to print.
In some areas, the police deliver newsletters to residents listing court cases.
But Labour's Sharon Hodgson said in Parliament: 'Any potential deterrent effect is going to be for the people who may go on to commit these crimes, then they need to see this information.
'I can't imagine that many of them will log on, go online to see what the sentence may be.'
She asked Ms Prentice: 'Will you consider using a poster campaign or taking out adverts in national newspapers in order that the perpetrators will know that they will be caught and what the consequences will be for their own lives?'
Ms Prentice replied: 'I do think you have offered a very helpful and constructive suggestion and it's certainly one that we will look at.
'I have seen national advertising campaigns, for example in and around London - particularly on gun and knife crime - which I think are very effective.'
She said in her Lewisham East constituency the police safer neighbourhood team's newsletter contained details of offenders and their sentences.
Ms Prentice added: 'I think we should look as wide as possible as to how to make sure that everyone, both the victim and the offender, are aware of what the cost of crime really is.'
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oscar;1126667 wrote: In light of recent increases in vigilantee groups in Britain, is this wise?
Criminals could be named and shamed... with their convictions printed on posters | Mail Online
Convicted burglars, car thieves and drug dealers may be named and shamed on posters plastered around their home town.
Ministers last night agreed to consider the scheme in the hope that the threat of public humiliation might deter would-be criminals and those at risk of re-offending.
The Government is already committed to publishing the results of court cases online and provides details of the outcome of trials free to local newspapers to print.
In some areas, the police deliver newsletters to residents listing court cases.
But Labour's Sharon Hodgson said in Parliament: 'Any potential deterrent effect is going to be for the people who may go on to commit these crimes, then they need to see this information.
'I can't imagine that many of them will log on, go online to see what the sentence may be.'
She asked Ms Prentice: 'Will you consider using a poster campaign or taking out adverts in national newspapers in order that the perpetrators will know that they will be caught and what the consequences will be for their own lives?'
Ms Prentice replied: 'I do think you have offered a very helpful and constructive suggestion and it's certainly one that we will look at.
'I have seen national advertising campaigns, for example in and around London - particularly on gun and knife crime - which I think are very effective.'
She said in her Lewisham East constituency the police safer neighbourhood team's newsletter contained details of offenders and their sentences.
Ms Prentice added: 'I think we should look as wide as possible as to how to make sure that everyone, both the victim and the offender, are aware of what the cost of crime really is.'
Well Oscar, having worked within the Justice Dept for a number of years I don't think that the proposed laws are going to deter the criminal. However there will be a benefit to the would be victims. Look at it this way, if you seen a neighbours name on the list charged with a few cases of pedophilia would you allow him into your home near your children and any other young children around? If you knew he was charged with rape would you allow him near your girls. If he was a thief would you let him wander around your home. Allowing the perpetrator privacy is simply allowing him more victims. I'm all for this law and believe that it should be instituted on world wide .
Criminals could be named and shamed... with their convictions printed on posters | Mail Online
Convicted burglars, car thieves and drug dealers may be named and shamed on posters plastered around their home town.
Ministers last night agreed to consider the scheme in the hope that the threat of public humiliation might deter would-be criminals and those at risk of re-offending.
The Government is already committed to publishing the results of court cases online and provides details of the outcome of trials free to local newspapers to print.
In some areas, the police deliver newsletters to residents listing court cases.
But Labour's Sharon Hodgson said in Parliament: 'Any potential deterrent effect is going to be for the people who may go on to commit these crimes, then they need to see this information.
'I can't imagine that many of them will log on, go online to see what the sentence may be.'
She asked Ms Prentice: 'Will you consider using a poster campaign or taking out adverts in national newspapers in order that the perpetrators will know that they will be caught and what the consequences will be for their own lives?'
Ms Prentice replied: 'I do think you have offered a very helpful and constructive suggestion and it's certainly one that we will look at.
'I have seen national advertising campaigns, for example in and around London - particularly on gun and knife crime - which I think are very effective.'
She said in her Lewisham East constituency the police safer neighbourhood team's newsletter contained details of offenders and their sentences.
Ms Prentice added: 'I think we should look as wide as possible as to how to make sure that everyone, both the victim and the offender, are aware of what the cost of crime really is.'
Well Oscar, having worked within the Justice Dept for a number of years I don't think that the proposed laws are going to deter the criminal. However there will be a benefit to the would be victims. Look at it this way, if you seen a neighbours name on the list charged with a few cases of pedophilia would you allow him into your home near your children and any other young children around? If you knew he was charged with rape would you allow him near your girls. If he was a thief would you let him wander around your home. Allowing the perpetrator privacy is simply allowing him more victims. I'm all for this law and believe that it should be instituted on world wide .
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Amber Sun;1126674 wrote: Well Oscar, having worked within the Justice Dept for a number of years I don't think that the proposed laws are going to deter the criminal. However there will be a benefit to the would be victims. Look at it this way, if you seen a neighbours name on the list charged with a few cases of pedophilia would you allow him into your home near your children and any other young children around? If you knew he was charged with rape would you allow him near your girls. If he was a thief would you let him wander around your home. Allowing the perpetrator privacy is simply allowing him more victims. I'm all for this law and believe that it should be instituted on world wide .
Pedophiles are not on the list.
Surely when someone has been convicted, sentenced and hopfully reabilitated they should be given the chance of turning their lives around?
If their face is plastered around the town they live in what hope is there of employers giving them jobs?
Pedophiles are not on the list.
Surely when someone has been convicted, sentenced and hopfully reabilitated they should be given the chance of turning their lives around?
If their face is plastered around the town they live in what hope is there of employers giving them jobs?
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abbey;1126677 wrote: Pedophiles are not on the list.
Surely when someone has been convicted, sentenced and hopfully reabilitated they should be given the chance of turning their lives around?
If their face is plastered around the town they live in what hope is there of employers giving them jobs?
I agree totally here Abbey. It's bad enough when they have their face plastered all over the newspapers for weeks :sneaky:.
Everybody has the right to mess up and everybody has the right to turn their lives around. Many are deeply ashamed of their crime and if it's for something petty such as shop-lifting a tin of ham.... is it fair to condemn them to a life of mistrust within their neighbourhood? I could see this wrecking lives.
Surely when someone has been convicted, sentenced and hopfully reabilitated they should be given the chance of turning their lives around?
If their face is plastered around the town they live in what hope is there of employers giving them jobs?
I agree totally here Abbey. It's bad enough when they have their face plastered all over the newspapers for weeks :sneaky:.
Everybody has the right to mess up and everybody has the right to turn their lives around. Many are deeply ashamed of their crime and if it's for something petty such as shop-lifting a tin of ham.... is it fair to condemn them to a life of mistrust within their neighbourhood? I could see this wrecking lives.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
Is this wise???
abbey;1126677 wrote: Pedophiles are not on the list.
Surely when someone has been convicted, sentenced and hopfully reabilitated they should be given the chance of turning their lives around?
If their face is plastered around the town they live in what hope is there of employers giving them jobs?
Pedophiles are not on the list. That's too bad because this is the worse of the lot I think.
For your information very few criminals are ever really rehabilitated. The rate of recidivism in most countries is extremely high. What a con learns to do in prison is how to get away with his crime the next time and how to bluff his way out of prison. Some will go so far as to "get to know god and his glory". Within 24 hours of being off the range they are back with the old friends.
If their face is plastered around the town they live in what hope is there of employers giving them jobs?
Well now, this is a good deterrent isn't it? Knowing that they won't be able to get a job and they can't leave the city or town they are in while on parole or probation should stop someone from committing a crime to begin with. I think that when they do institute these laws that they should give a write-up of what to expect upon their release from incarceration.
Surely when someone has been convicted, sentenced and hopfully reabilitated they should be given the chance of turning their lives around?
If their face is plastered around the town they live in what hope is there of employers giving them jobs?
Pedophiles are not on the list. That's too bad because this is the worse of the lot I think.
For your information very few criminals are ever really rehabilitated. The rate of recidivism in most countries is extremely high. What a con learns to do in prison is how to get away with his crime the next time and how to bluff his way out of prison. Some will go so far as to "get to know god and his glory". Within 24 hours of being off the range they are back with the old friends.
If their face is plastered around the town they live in what hope is there of employers giving them jobs?
Well now, this is a good deterrent isn't it? Knowing that they won't be able to get a job and they can't leave the city or town they are in while on parole or probation should stop someone from committing a crime to begin with. I think that when they do institute these laws that they should give a write-up of what to expect upon their release from incarceration.
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Amber Sun;1126686 wrote: Pedophiles are not on the list. That's too bad because this is the worse of the lot I think.
For your information very few criminals are ever really rehabilitated. The rate of recidivism in most countries is extremely high. What a con learns to do in prison is how to get away with his crime the next time and how to bluff his way out of prison. Some will go so far as to "get to know god and his glory". Within 24 hours of being off the range they are back with the old friends.
If their face is plastered around the town they live in what hope is there of employers giving them jobs?
Well now, this is a good deterrent isn't it? Knowing that they won't be able to get a job and they can't leave the city or town they are in while on parole or probation should stop someone from committing a crime to begin with. I think that when they do institute these laws that they should give a write-up of what to expect upon their release from incarceration.
We have just had the murder here of a 'suspected' pedophile. This just leads to more violence.
People have long memories especially in small communities. It will not just be a case of them not getting a job while on parole... It could mean the rest of their live's.
What if it's a troubled kid who has messed up through no fault of their own other than the parents who had no parenting skills. We invest alot of money in this country into re-habilitation of youngsters so they turn their lives around and many many do.
For your information very few criminals are ever really rehabilitated. The rate of recidivism in most countries is extremely high. What a con learns to do in prison is how to get away with his crime the next time and how to bluff his way out of prison. Some will go so far as to "get to know god and his glory". Within 24 hours of being off the range they are back with the old friends.
If their face is plastered around the town they live in what hope is there of employers giving them jobs?
Well now, this is a good deterrent isn't it? Knowing that they won't be able to get a job and they can't leave the city or town they are in while on parole or probation should stop someone from committing a crime to begin with. I think that when they do institute these laws that they should give a write-up of what to expect upon their release from incarceration.
We have just had the murder here of a 'suspected' pedophile. This just leads to more violence.
People have long memories especially in small communities. It will not just be a case of them not getting a job while on parole... It could mean the rest of their live's.
What if it's a troubled kid who has messed up through no fault of their own other than the parents who had no parenting skills. We invest alot of money in this country into re-habilitation of youngsters so they turn their lives around and many many do.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
Is this wise???
oscar;1126680 wrote: I agree totally here Abbey. It's bad enough when they have their face plastered all over the newspapers for weeks :sneaky:.
Everybody has the right to mess up and everybody has the right to turn their lives around. Many are deeply ashamed of their crime and if it's for something petty such as shop-lifting a tin of ham.... is it fair to condemn them to a life of mistrust within their neighbourhood? I could see this wrecking lives.
Oscar, someone who has stolen a tin of ham because of hunger is not going to be ashamed, added to this his family and friends will overlook it and so will any employers. But if a person steals to sell his wares for cash (a 'booster' as they are called here) this is then a crime. I know of one who even gets a job as a part-time janitor in the malls so he can case the place first. He not only collects welfare but makes thousands of dollars by his trade selling stolen goods. If he walked into your home you could rest assured that he would be back later and your home would be emptied of anything of value.
It's a good thing to have a kind heart, but it is kinder to care for the victims than for the criminals. We all, every one of us knows the difference between right and wrong. How many times have you been in prison oscar, I would bet a small wager not even once. How many times have you been victimized and left totally traumatized by some vicious criminal act? There again I'd bet not even once. Yes, someone may have stolen a tin of ham from you, but the law that is being considered is covering all crimes not just petty theft. That law will cover the selling of drugs to school children, the beating and killing of pensioners for their cheques, the pimps that are selling young girls for sex, kidnapping etc, etc. If you think for one second that these creatures are going to be ashamed for their acts then you are very misinformed.
Yes, there will be some who were in the wrong place at the wrong time and got caught up in a situation. They are basically good and we can feel sorry for what happened to them. But these are few compared to those who deliberately did wrong and knew full well what the consequences were. This is what is on your original post, does this sound like a petty crime to you I have seen national advertising campaigns, for example in and around London - particularly on gun and knife crime - which I think are very effective.' Since when does a person need a gun to steal a tin of ham?
I want to ask you Oscar, how many people do you know very well that have been to prison for 4 years or more and then came out reformed never to commit another crime?
What they have started doing here in Winnipeg is warning the public when a known pedophile has been released from prison. Many of them have been in and out a number of times. Should they be given another chance to molest again, or should the public be warned? I think it's a darn shame that they aren't mentioned on your list.
Everybody has the right to mess up and everybody has the right to turn their lives around. Many are deeply ashamed of their crime and if it's for something petty such as shop-lifting a tin of ham.... is it fair to condemn them to a life of mistrust within their neighbourhood? I could see this wrecking lives.
Oscar, someone who has stolen a tin of ham because of hunger is not going to be ashamed, added to this his family and friends will overlook it and so will any employers. But if a person steals to sell his wares for cash (a 'booster' as they are called here) this is then a crime. I know of one who even gets a job as a part-time janitor in the malls so he can case the place first. He not only collects welfare but makes thousands of dollars by his trade selling stolen goods. If he walked into your home you could rest assured that he would be back later and your home would be emptied of anything of value.
It's a good thing to have a kind heart, but it is kinder to care for the victims than for the criminals. We all, every one of us knows the difference between right and wrong. How many times have you been in prison oscar, I would bet a small wager not even once. How many times have you been victimized and left totally traumatized by some vicious criminal act? There again I'd bet not even once. Yes, someone may have stolen a tin of ham from you, but the law that is being considered is covering all crimes not just petty theft. That law will cover the selling of drugs to school children, the beating and killing of pensioners for their cheques, the pimps that are selling young girls for sex, kidnapping etc, etc. If you think for one second that these creatures are going to be ashamed for their acts then you are very misinformed.
Yes, there will be some who were in the wrong place at the wrong time and got caught up in a situation. They are basically good and we can feel sorry for what happened to them. But these are few compared to those who deliberately did wrong and knew full well what the consequences were. This is what is on your original post, does this sound like a petty crime to you I have seen national advertising campaigns, for example in and around London - particularly on gun and knife crime - which I think are very effective.' Since when does a person need a gun to steal a tin of ham?
I want to ask you Oscar, how many people do you know very well that have been to prison for 4 years or more and then came out reformed never to commit another crime?
What they have started doing here in Winnipeg is warning the public when a known pedophile has been released from prison. Many of them have been in and out a number of times. Should they be given another chance to molest again, or should the public be warned? I think it's a darn shame that they aren't mentioned on your list.
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oscar;1126687 wrote: We have just had the murder here of a 'suspected' pedophile. This just leads to more violence.
People have long memories especially in small communities. It will not just be a case of them not getting a job while on parole... It could mean the rest of their live's.
What if it's a troubled kid who has messed up through no fault of their own other than the parents who had no parenting skills. We invest alot of money in this country into re-habilitation of youngsters so they turn their lives around and many many do.
What if it's a troubled kid who has messed up through no fault of their own other than the parents who had no parenting skills. We invest alot of money in this country into re-habilitation of youngsters so they turn their lives around and many many do.
Here juveniles and adults are treated differently. No names are ever published for anyone under the age of 18 years regardless of the offense. Added to this if and when the individual commits another crime and is over the age of 18 his juvenile record is not admissible in court.
People have long memories especially in small communities. It will not just be a case of them not getting a job while on parole... It could mean the rest of their live's.
What if it's a troubled kid who has messed up through no fault of their own other than the parents who had no parenting skills. We invest alot of money in this country into re-habilitation of youngsters so they turn their lives around and many many do.
What if it's a troubled kid who has messed up through no fault of their own other than the parents who had no parenting skills. We invest alot of money in this country into re-habilitation of youngsters so they turn their lives around and many many do.
Here juveniles and adults are treated differently. No names are ever published for anyone under the age of 18 years regardless of the offense. Added to this if and when the individual commits another crime and is over the age of 18 his juvenile record is not admissible in court.
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Amber Sun;1126702 wrote: Oscar, someone who has stolen a tin of ham because of hunger is not going to be ashamed, added to this his family and friends will overlook it and so will any employers. But if a person steals to sell his wares for cash (a 'booster' as they are called here) this is then a crime. I know of one who even gets a job as a part-time janitor in the malls so he can case the place first. He not only collects welfare but makes thousands of dollars by his trade selling stolen goods. If he walked into your home you could rest assured that he would be back later and your home would be emptied of anything of value.
It's a good thing to have a kind heart, but it is kinder to care for the victims than for the criminals. We all, every one of us knows the difference between right and wrong. How many times have you been in prison oscar, I would bet a small wager not even once. How many times have you been victimized and left totally traumatized by some vicious criminal act? There again I'd bet not even once. Yes, someone may have stolen a tin of ham from you, but the law that is being considered is covering all crimes not just petty theft. That law will cover the selling of drugs to school children, the beating and killing of pensioners for their cheques, the pimps that are selling young girls for sex, kidnapping etc, etc. If you think for one second that these creatures are going to be ashamed for their acts then you are very misinformed.
Yes, there will be some who were in the wrong place at the wrong time and got caught up in a situation. They are basically good and we can feel sorry for what happened to them. But these are few compared to those who deliberately did wrong and knew full well what the consequences were. This is what is on your original post, does this sound like a petty crime to you I have seen national advertising campaigns, for example in and around London - particularly on gun and knife crime - which I think are very effective.' Since when does a person need a gun to steal a tin of ham?
I want to ask you Oscar, how many people do you know very well that have been to prison for 4 years or more and then came out reformed never to commit another crime?
What they have started doing here in Winnipeg is warning the public when a known pedophile has been released from prison. Many of them have been in and out a number of times. Should they be given another chance to molest again, or should the public be warned? I think it's a darn shame that they aren't mentioned on your list.You have good points but i feel that you don't understand the current feeling in this country. Unfortunately (though no fault of our PM Gordon Brown) we have have had 10 years of a nanny state under Tony Blair. Some ludicrous human rights laws have given our criminals more rights than the victem and yes, this is very wrong. Due to the past 10 years, the public in this country have become so sick of this that the mood of the country is turning and turning ugly. What we need to do is reverse the human rights for our criminals. We have a situation here at present where the public do not believe in the justice system and due to this, vigilantee groups are becoming popular. This scheme that is proposed will only fuel the discord in the public and make things worse. We need to see tougher sentencing for our career criminals and removal of priviliges.
Yes, I have been locked up by the British Police and stood trial, thanks :-6:-6
It's a good thing to have a kind heart, but it is kinder to care for the victims than for the criminals. We all, every one of us knows the difference between right and wrong. How many times have you been in prison oscar, I would bet a small wager not even once. How many times have you been victimized and left totally traumatized by some vicious criminal act? There again I'd bet not even once. Yes, someone may have stolen a tin of ham from you, but the law that is being considered is covering all crimes not just petty theft. That law will cover the selling of drugs to school children, the beating and killing of pensioners for their cheques, the pimps that are selling young girls for sex, kidnapping etc, etc. If you think for one second that these creatures are going to be ashamed for their acts then you are very misinformed.
Yes, there will be some who were in the wrong place at the wrong time and got caught up in a situation. They are basically good and we can feel sorry for what happened to them. But these are few compared to those who deliberately did wrong and knew full well what the consequences were. This is what is on your original post, does this sound like a petty crime to you I have seen national advertising campaigns, for example in and around London - particularly on gun and knife crime - which I think are very effective.' Since when does a person need a gun to steal a tin of ham?
I want to ask you Oscar, how many people do you know very well that have been to prison for 4 years or more and then came out reformed never to commit another crime?
What they have started doing here in Winnipeg is warning the public when a known pedophile has been released from prison. Many of them have been in and out a number of times. Should they be given another chance to molest again, or should the public be warned? I think it's a darn shame that they aren't mentioned on your list.You have good points but i feel that you don't understand the current feeling in this country. Unfortunately (though no fault of our PM Gordon Brown) we have have had 10 years of a nanny state under Tony Blair. Some ludicrous human rights laws have given our criminals more rights than the victem and yes, this is very wrong. Due to the past 10 years, the public in this country have become so sick of this that the mood of the country is turning and turning ugly. What we need to do is reverse the human rights for our criminals. We have a situation here at present where the public do not believe in the justice system and due to this, vigilantee groups are becoming popular. This scheme that is proposed will only fuel the discord in the public and make things worse. We need to see tougher sentencing for our career criminals and removal of priviliges.
Yes, I have been locked up by the British Police and stood trial, thanks :-6:-6
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No, I think its a nuts idea. Its going to get people killed.
These sorts of issues are exactly why most civilized countries have a thing called due process, not some sort of medieval mob justice type system.
Typical PR nonsense.
These sorts of issues are exactly why most civilized countries have a thing called due process, not some sort of medieval mob justice type system.
Typical PR nonsense.
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My dad 1986.
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oscar;1126711 wrote: You have good points but i feel that you don't understand the current feeling in this country. Unfortunately (though no fault of our PM Gordon Brown) we have have had 10 years of a nanny state under Tony Blair. Some ludicrous human rights laws have given our criminals more rights than the victem and yes, this is very wrong. Due to the past 10 years, the public in this country have become so sick of this that the mood of the country is turning and turning ugly. What we need to do is reverse the human rights for our criminals. We have a situation here at present where the public do not believe in the justice system and due to this, vigilantee groups are becoming popular. This scheme that is proposed will only fuel the discord in the public and make things worse. We need to see tougher sentencing for our career criminals and removal of priviliges.
Yes, I have been locked up by the British Police and stood trial, thanks :-6:-6
When I say prison I am not talking about a detention center. And a trial means absolutely nothing. When I say prison I am talking about years in a Federal Prison, not even a provincial one.
As far as vigilante groups we have more or less the same thing here only we call them 'street patrol'. They have the right to arrest if they don't think it is a very dangerous situation like a drunk trying to get into his car to drive away or something. If they see knives or guns they use radios to call the police who can handle the situation. There will always be some innocent people who will get caught up in the net but we as thinking rational people can sort out the difference between a real bad one and one that just got caught up.
We don't have a 'justice system' either. What we have is a 'legal system'. Whoever has more money and the better lawyer wins.
Yes, I have been locked up by the British Police and stood trial, thanks :-6:-6
When I say prison I am not talking about a detention center. And a trial means absolutely nothing. When I say prison I am talking about years in a Federal Prison, not even a provincial one.
As far as vigilante groups we have more or less the same thing here only we call them 'street patrol'. They have the right to arrest if they don't think it is a very dangerous situation like a drunk trying to get into his car to drive away or something. If they see knives or guns they use radios to call the police who can handle the situation. There will always be some innocent people who will get caught up in the net but we as thinking rational people can sort out the difference between a real bad one and one that just got caught up.
We don't have a 'justice system' either. What we have is a 'legal system'. Whoever has more money and the better lawyer wins.
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Of course the other side of the coin..
The small town I live has a drug problem but I dont have a clue how or where to buy them,
Surely a poster in the town advertising a pusher would give me that info, maybe I need a knock off 50" flat screen tv, no probs I'll go to the kid who's just been released after 2 years in the nick for burglary.
The small town I live has a drug problem but I dont have a clue how or where to buy them,
Surely a poster in the town advertising a pusher would give me that info, maybe I need a knock off 50" flat screen tv, no probs I'll go to the kid who's just been released after 2 years in the nick for burglary.
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abbey;1127178 wrote: Of course the other side of the coin..
The small town I live has a drug problem but I dont have a clue how or where to buy them,
Surely a poster in the town advertising a pusher would give me that info, maybe I need a knock off 50" flat screen tv, no probs I'll go to the kid who's just been released after 2 years in the nick for burglary.
Good Point Abbs....... same would happen here. All the kids know where the drug dealers live any way.
The small town I live has a drug problem but I dont have a clue how or where to buy them,
Surely a poster in the town advertising a pusher would give me that info, maybe I need a knock off 50" flat screen tv, no probs I'll go to the kid who's just been released after 2 years in the nick for burglary.
Good Point Abbs....... same would happen here. All the kids know where the drug dealers live any way.
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oscar;1126667 wrote: In light of recent increases in vigilantee groups in Britain, is this wise?
Criminals could be named and shamed... with their convictions printed on posters | Mail Online
Convicted burglars, car thieves and drug dealers may be named and shamed on posters plastered around their home town.
Ministers last night agreed to consider the scheme in the hope that the threat of public humiliation might deter would-be criminals and those at risk of re-offending.
The Government is already committed to publishing the results of court cases online and provides details of the outcome of trials free to local newspapers to print.
In some areas, the police deliver newsletters to residents listing court cases.
But Labour's Sharon Hodgson said in Parliament: 'Any potential deterrent effect is going to be for the people who may go on to commit these crimes, then they need to see this information.
'I can't imagine that many of them will log on, go online to see what the sentence may be.'
She asked Ms Prentice: 'Will you consider using a poster campaign or taking out adverts in national newspapers in order that the perpetrators will know that they will be caught and what the consequences will be for their own lives?'
Ms Prentice replied: 'I do think you have offered a very helpful and constructive suggestion and it's certainly one that we will look at.
'I have seen national advertising campaigns, for example in and around London - particularly on gun and knife crime - which I think are very effective.'
She said in her Lewisham East constituency the police safer neighbourhood team's newsletter contained details of offenders and their sentences.
Ms Prentice added: 'I think we should look as wide as possible as to how to make sure that everyone, both the victim and the offender, are aware of what the cost of crime really is.'
I would say shame them especially if they are convicted child molesters (which they do here), rapists or burglers.
Criminals could be named and shamed... with their convictions printed on posters | Mail Online
Convicted burglars, car thieves and drug dealers may be named and shamed on posters plastered around their home town.
Ministers last night agreed to consider the scheme in the hope that the threat of public humiliation might deter would-be criminals and those at risk of re-offending.
The Government is already committed to publishing the results of court cases online and provides details of the outcome of trials free to local newspapers to print.
In some areas, the police deliver newsletters to residents listing court cases.
But Labour's Sharon Hodgson said in Parliament: 'Any potential deterrent effect is going to be for the people who may go on to commit these crimes, then they need to see this information.
'I can't imagine that many of them will log on, go online to see what the sentence may be.'
She asked Ms Prentice: 'Will you consider using a poster campaign or taking out adverts in national newspapers in order that the perpetrators will know that they will be caught and what the consequences will be for their own lives?'
Ms Prentice replied: 'I do think you have offered a very helpful and constructive suggestion and it's certainly one that we will look at.
'I have seen national advertising campaigns, for example in and around London - particularly on gun and knife crime - which I think are very effective.'
She said in her Lewisham East constituency the police safer neighbourhood team's newsletter contained details of offenders and their sentences.
Ms Prentice added: 'I think we should look as wide as possible as to how to make sure that everyone, both the victim and the offender, are aware of what the cost of crime really is.'
I would say shame them especially if they are convicted child molesters (which they do here), rapists or burglers.
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Is this wise???
Galbally;1126713 wrote: No, I think its a nuts idea. Its going to get people killed.
These sorts of issues are exactly why most civilized countries have a thing called due process, not some sort of medieval mob justice type system.
Typical PR nonsense.
Feck me gallders......... We agree on something you fairy :p:p:p
These sorts of issues are exactly why most civilized countries have a thing called due process, not some sort of medieval mob justice type system.
Typical PR nonsense.
Feck me gallders......... We agree on something you fairy :p:p:p
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