The Connecticut woman who was mauled by the chimpanzee has been transferred to the Cleveland Clinic for surgery. The Cleveland Clinic just recently did a full face transplant and their expertise is needed to repair the damage that resulted from this attack. According to our local news, this woman lost both eyes, her nose and part of her jaw¦¦¦.. I can’t imagine the physical and mental torment this woman must be in.
There is now a lot of talk about generating legislation regarding the ownership of exotic pets. What thoughts do you have regarding this?
The details of this attack was reported by The New York Times on February 17, 2009:
A 55-year-old woman who was mauled by a 200-pound pet chimpanzee in Connecticut remained listed in critical condition on Tuesday, as police officials investigated whether illness might have changed the animal’s behavior.
Charla Nash, a friend of the chimpanzee’s owner, was viciously attacked in Stamford on Monday — with much of her face torn away — when she stepped out of her car at her friend’s house. The male chimpanzee, Travis, was eventually shot dead by officers, and Ms. Nash was taken to Stamford Hospital, where she remained on Tuesday.
In an interview, Capt. Richard Conklin of the Stamford Police said that Travis, 14, was believed to have Lyme disease, a tick-borne bacterial infection that in rare cases has been linked to psychosis, severe anxiety and delusional behavior. Travis had been in an agitated state most of the day Monday, and at one point his owner took the unusual step of giving him tea laced with Xanax in an attempt to calm him down, Capt. Conklin said.
“We’re trying to see if that factored into this, he said of the Lyme disease.
Other than medication he might have been taking for the disease, Travis was not on any drugs and was not usually given Xanax, he added.
Despite their appearances, chimpanzees are known to possess astonishing power, with the average adult male having four to five times the upper-body strength of an adult human. As pets, they can be extremely difficult. They typically act aggressively toward their owners when they reach adulthood, and once reared by humans, they cannot be re-introduced into the wild because other chimpanzees will reject them, experts say.
The injuries Travis inflicted on Ms. Nash, whom he had known for years, were called horrendous.
“I’ve been doing this a long time and have never seen anything this dramatic on a living patient, said Capt. Bill Ackley of Stamford Emergency Medical Service and the head of the paramedic crew that treated Ms. Nash..
The attack, in the driveway of a sprawling home in a densely wooded neighborhood on the north side of Stamford, marked a brutal end for Travis, a popular figure in town who had appeared in television commercials and often posed for photographs at the towing shop operated by his owners. He had escaped before, and in 2003 playfully held up traffic at a busy intersection for several hours, But he had no history of violence, the authorities said. Travis’s social skills included drinking wine from a stemmed glass, dressing and bathing himself and using a computer.
Travis’s owner, Sandra Herold, 70, had raised him almost as one of her own children, but found herself lunging at him with a butcher knife on Monday to protect Ms. Nash, said Capt. Conklin, who gave the following account.
Ms. Herold told detectives that Travis was in a rambunctious mood Monday afternoon. He took her keys from the kitchen table, unlocked a door and let himself out into the yard at 241 Rock Rimmon Road.
“He’s going to different cars and tapping on them, trying the doors, a clear indication he wanted to go for a ride, Captain Conklin said.
Travis would not be lured back into the house, even after Ms. Herold gave him the Xanax-laced tea. Ms. Herold called Ms. Nash, who drove over, but when she stepped out of her car at around 3:40 p.m., Travis went at her full force. While it was not clear what prompted the assault, Ms. Nash had markedly changed her hairstyle since the last time Travis had seen her, possibly leading him to mistake her for an intruder.
Ms. Herold tried to pull Travis off her friend, but, Captain Conklin noted, “Sandra is 70 years old, and a 200-pound chimpanzee is much, much stronger than a 200-pound human being.
Ms. Herold called 911, grabbed a knife and stabbed Travis several times, to little avail. When emergency service vehicles pulled up, Travis fled, leaving Ms. Nash face down in the driveway.
One team of officers combed the woods for Travis, while another formed a protective cordon around the paramedics ministering to Ms. Nash, who Captain Ackley said also suffered multiple broken bones.
After a while, Captain Conklin said, Travis returned and “went after the officers. He knocked a mirror off the passenger’s side of a police cruiser with one swing of his arm, then ran around to the driver’s side, opened the door and attacked the officer in the driver’s seat.
“He’s trapped in his car, Captain Conklin said. “He has nowhere to go. So he pulls his sidearm and shoots the chimp several times in close proximity. Travis then disappeared into the woods.
The officer, whose name was not released, was treated for trauma. Ms. Herold was not seriously injured but was hospitalized.
Eventually officers picked up a blood trail, which they followed back to the house. There they found Travis in his living quarters, a caged-in area with a bed and other furnishings of comfortable captivity. He was dead.
Captain Conklin said that charges against Ms. Herold were unlikely.
“We’ll certainly speak to the experts and the prosecutors, he said, “but we truly hope that there are no charges. It’s a modern-day tragedy.
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"Out, damned spot! out, I say!"
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there is a thread on this, giving zanax to the monkey.
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Kindle;1140512 wrote: The Connecticut woman who was mauled by the chimpanzee has been transferred to the Cleveland Clinic for surgery. The Cleveland Clinic just recently did a full face transplant and their expertise is needed to repair the damage that resulted from this attack. According to our local news, this woman lost both eyes, her nose and part of her jaw¦¦¦.. I can’t imagine the physical and mental torment this woman must be in.
There is now a lot of talk about generating legislation regarding the ownership of exotic pets. What thoughts do you have regarding this?
The details of this attack was reported by The New York Times on February 17, 2009:
A 55-year-old woman who was mauled by a 200-pound pet chimpanzee in Connecticut remained listed in critical condition on Tuesday, as police officials investigated whether illness might have changed the animal’s behavior.
Charla Nash, a friend of the chimpanzee’s owner, was viciously attacked in Stamford on Monday — with much of her face torn away — when she stepped out of her car at her friend’s house. The male chimpanzee, Travis, was eventually shot dead by officers, and Ms. Nash was taken to Stamford Hospital, where she remained on Tuesday.
In an interview, Capt. Richard Conklin of the Stamford Police said that Travis, 14, was believed to have Lyme disease, a tick-borne bacterial infection that in rare cases has been linked to psychosis, severe anxiety and delusional behavior. Travis had been in an agitated state most of the day Monday, and at one point his owner took the unusual step of giving him tea laced with Xanax in an attempt to calm him down, Capt. Conklin said.
“We’re trying to see if that factored into this, he said of the Lyme disease.
Other than medication he might have been taking for the disease, Travis was not on any drugs and was not usually given Xanax, he added.
Despite their appearances, chimpanzees are known to possess astonishing power, with the average adult male having four to five times the upper-body strength of an adult human. As pets, they can be extremely difficult. They typically act aggressively toward their owners when they reach adulthood, and once reared by humans, they cannot be re-introduced into the wild because other chimpanzees will reject them, experts say.
The injuries Travis inflicted on Ms. Nash, whom he had known for years, were called horrendous.
“I’ve been doing this a long time and have never seen anything this dramatic on a living patient, said Capt. Bill Ackley of Stamford Emergency Medical Service and the head of the paramedic crew that treated Ms. Nash..
The attack, in the driveway of a sprawling home in a densely wooded neighborhood on the north side of Stamford, marked a brutal end for Travis, a popular figure in town who had appeared in television commercials and often posed for photographs at the towing shop operated by his owners. He had escaped before, and in 2003 playfully held up traffic at a busy intersection for several hours, But he had no history of violence, the authorities said. Travis’s social skills included drinking wine from a stemmed glass, dressing and bathing himself and using a computer.
Travis’s owner, Sandra Herold, 70, had raised him almost as one of her own children, but found herself lunging at him with a butcher knife on Monday to protect Ms. Nash, said Capt. Conklin, who gave the following account.
Ms. Herold told detectives that Travis was in a rambunctious mood Monday afternoon. He took her keys from the kitchen table, unlocked a door and let himself out into the yard at 241 Rock Rimmon Road.
“He’s going to different cars and tapping on them, trying the doors, a clear indication he wanted to go for a ride, Captain Conklin said.
Travis would not be lured back into the house, even after Ms. Herold gave him the Xanax-laced tea. Ms. Herold called Ms. Nash, who drove over, but when she stepped out of her car at around 3:40 p.m., Travis went at her full force. While it was not clear what prompted the assault, Ms. Nash had markedly changed her hairstyle since the last time Travis had seen her, possibly leading him to mistake her for an intruder.
Ms. Herold tried to pull Travis off her friend, but, Captain Conklin noted, “Sandra is 70 years old, and a 200-pound chimpanzee is much, much stronger than a 200-pound human being.
Ms. Herold called 911, grabbed a knife and stabbed Travis several times, to little avail. When emergency service vehicles pulled up, Travis fled, leaving Ms. Nash face down in the driveway.
One team of officers combed the woods for Travis, while another formed a protective cordon around the paramedics ministering to Ms. Nash, who Captain Ackley said also suffered multiple broken bones.
After a while, Captain Conklin said, Travis returned and “went after the officers. He knocked a mirror off the passenger’s side of a police cruiser with one swing of his arm, then ran around to the driver’s side, opened the door and attacked the officer in the driver’s seat.
“He’s trapped in his car, Captain Conklin said. “He has nowhere to go. So he pulls his sidearm and shoots the chimp several times in close proximity. Travis then disappeared into the woods.
The officer, whose name was not released, was treated for trauma. Ms. Herold was not seriously injured but was hospitalized.
Eventually officers picked up a blood trail, which they followed back to the house. There they found Travis in his living quarters, a caged-in area with a bed and other furnishings of comfortable captivity. He was dead.
Captain Conklin said that charges against Ms. Herold were unlikely.
“We’ll certainly speak to the experts and the prosecutors, he said, “but we truly hope that there are no charges. It’s a modern-day tragedy.This is a typical case of some-one not researching their pet. Firstly, this a wild animal and was kept captive against it's will. The Chimpanzee is the only species other than man to murder their own. No other primate does this and Chimpanzee murder is common in the wild. No-one knows why they do it, although they believe territory rights could contribute. There is a paragraph on it in this link.
Love and Murder Among the Chimps - New York Times
There could be several reasons why he turned on her but it's not surprising as i have heard of this before. Here's another link of two that had to be shot
Love and Murder Among the Chimps - New York Times
This one is about 'Ollie' who's owner had to get rid of him when he tryed to mate with her.
Oliver the Humanzee - Pilkipedia
I saw a documenatry on 'Ollie' and he pestered his owner for sex. Not surprising when you think a male of a species very close to mans insincts is alone with no other chimp company or a mate. In the doc, Ollie started to become quite aggresive with her when she naturally refused his advances.
This could be the reason the chimp mauled this woman. If he tried mating with her and it got nasty, he would still have his Chimpanzee trait to murder what he thought was one of his own.
I don't know, just my thoughts.
There is now a lot of talk about generating legislation regarding the ownership of exotic pets. What thoughts do you have regarding this?
The details of this attack was reported by The New York Times on February 17, 2009:
A 55-year-old woman who was mauled by a 200-pound pet chimpanzee in Connecticut remained listed in critical condition on Tuesday, as police officials investigated whether illness might have changed the animal’s behavior.
Charla Nash, a friend of the chimpanzee’s owner, was viciously attacked in Stamford on Monday — with much of her face torn away — when she stepped out of her car at her friend’s house. The male chimpanzee, Travis, was eventually shot dead by officers, and Ms. Nash was taken to Stamford Hospital, where she remained on Tuesday.
In an interview, Capt. Richard Conklin of the Stamford Police said that Travis, 14, was believed to have Lyme disease, a tick-borne bacterial infection that in rare cases has been linked to psychosis, severe anxiety and delusional behavior. Travis had been in an agitated state most of the day Monday, and at one point his owner took the unusual step of giving him tea laced with Xanax in an attempt to calm him down, Capt. Conklin said.
“We’re trying to see if that factored into this, he said of the Lyme disease.
Other than medication he might have been taking for the disease, Travis was not on any drugs and was not usually given Xanax, he added.
Despite their appearances, chimpanzees are known to possess astonishing power, with the average adult male having four to five times the upper-body strength of an adult human. As pets, they can be extremely difficult. They typically act aggressively toward their owners when they reach adulthood, and once reared by humans, they cannot be re-introduced into the wild because other chimpanzees will reject them, experts say.
The injuries Travis inflicted on Ms. Nash, whom he had known for years, were called horrendous.
“I’ve been doing this a long time and have never seen anything this dramatic on a living patient, said Capt. Bill Ackley of Stamford Emergency Medical Service and the head of the paramedic crew that treated Ms. Nash..
The attack, in the driveway of a sprawling home in a densely wooded neighborhood on the north side of Stamford, marked a brutal end for Travis, a popular figure in town who had appeared in television commercials and often posed for photographs at the towing shop operated by his owners. He had escaped before, and in 2003 playfully held up traffic at a busy intersection for several hours, But he had no history of violence, the authorities said. Travis’s social skills included drinking wine from a stemmed glass, dressing and bathing himself and using a computer.
Travis’s owner, Sandra Herold, 70, had raised him almost as one of her own children, but found herself lunging at him with a butcher knife on Monday to protect Ms. Nash, said Capt. Conklin, who gave the following account.
Ms. Herold told detectives that Travis was in a rambunctious mood Monday afternoon. He took her keys from the kitchen table, unlocked a door and let himself out into the yard at 241 Rock Rimmon Road.
“He’s going to different cars and tapping on them, trying the doors, a clear indication he wanted to go for a ride, Captain Conklin said.
Travis would not be lured back into the house, even after Ms. Herold gave him the Xanax-laced tea. Ms. Herold called Ms. Nash, who drove over, but when she stepped out of her car at around 3:40 p.m., Travis went at her full force. While it was not clear what prompted the assault, Ms. Nash had markedly changed her hairstyle since the last time Travis had seen her, possibly leading him to mistake her for an intruder.
Ms. Herold tried to pull Travis off her friend, but, Captain Conklin noted, “Sandra is 70 years old, and a 200-pound chimpanzee is much, much stronger than a 200-pound human being.
Ms. Herold called 911, grabbed a knife and stabbed Travis several times, to little avail. When emergency service vehicles pulled up, Travis fled, leaving Ms. Nash face down in the driveway.
One team of officers combed the woods for Travis, while another formed a protective cordon around the paramedics ministering to Ms. Nash, who Captain Ackley said also suffered multiple broken bones.
After a while, Captain Conklin said, Travis returned and “went after the officers. He knocked a mirror off the passenger’s side of a police cruiser with one swing of his arm, then ran around to the driver’s side, opened the door and attacked the officer in the driver’s seat.
“He’s trapped in his car, Captain Conklin said. “He has nowhere to go. So he pulls his sidearm and shoots the chimp several times in close proximity. Travis then disappeared into the woods.
The officer, whose name was not released, was treated for trauma. Ms. Herold was not seriously injured but was hospitalized.
Eventually officers picked up a blood trail, which they followed back to the house. There they found Travis in his living quarters, a caged-in area with a bed and other furnishings of comfortable captivity. He was dead.
Captain Conklin said that charges against Ms. Herold were unlikely.
“We’ll certainly speak to the experts and the prosecutors, he said, “but we truly hope that there are no charges. It’s a modern-day tragedy.This is a typical case of some-one not researching their pet. Firstly, this a wild animal and was kept captive against it's will. The Chimpanzee is the only species other than man to murder their own. No other primate does this and Chimpanzee murder is common in the wild. No-one knows why they do it, although they believe territory rights could contribute. There is a paragraph on it in this link.
Love and Murder Among the Chimps - New York Times
There could be several reasons why he turned on her but it's not surprising as i have heard of this before. Here's another link of two that had to be shot
Love and Murder Among the Chimps - New York Times
This one is about 'Ollie' who's owner had to get rid of him when he tryed to mate with her.
Oliver the Humanzee - Pilkipedia
I saw a documenatry on 'Ollie' and he pestered his owner for sex. Not surprising when you think a male of a species very close to mans insincts is alone with no other chimp company or a mate. In the doc, Ollie started to become quite aggresive with her when she naturally refused his advances.
This could be the reason the chimp mauled this woman. If he tried mating with her and it got nasty, he would still have his Chimpanzee trait to murder what he thought was one of his own.
I don't know, just my thoughts.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
Ownership of exotic pets
Odie;1140517 wrote: there is a thread on this, giving zanax to the monkey.
It is in the New York Times article they said he was not usually given this. I think a lot of conflicting info is out on this as they try to sort out all the details of this.
It is in the New York Times article they said he was not usually given this. I think a lot of conflicting info is out on this as they try to sort out all the details of this.
"Out, damned spot! out, I say!"
- William Shakespeare, Macbeth, 5.1
Ownership of exotic pets
oscar;1140518 wrote: This is a typical case of some-one not researching their pet. Firstly, this a wild animal and was kept captive against it's will. The Chimpanzee is the only species other than man to murder their own. No other primate does this and Chimpanzee murder is common in the wild. No-one knows why they do it, although they believe territory rights could contribute. There is a paragraph on it in this link.
Love and Murder Among the Chimps - New York Times
There could be several reasons why he turned on her but it's not surprising as i have heard of this before. Here's another link of two that had to be shot
Love and Murder Among the Chimps - New York Times
This one is about 'Ollie' who's owner had to get rid of him when he tryed to mate with her.
Oliver the Humanzee - Pilkipedia
I saw a documenatry on 'Ollie' and he pestered his owner for sex. Not surprising when you think a male of a species very close to mans insincts is alone with no other chimp company or a mate. In the doc, Ollie started to become quite aggresive with her when she naturally refused his advances.
This could be the reason the chimp mauled this woman. If he tried mating with her and it got nasty, he would still have his Chimpanzee trait to murder what he thought was one of his own.
I don't know, just my thoughts.
That's interesting. One TV report stated in this case this woman bathe with the chimp and also slept with him. I thought that was a bit weird, but I sure didn't think anything sexual about it -- at the time................
Love and Murder Among the Chimps - New York Times
There could be several reasons why he turned on her but it's not surprising as i have heard of this before. Here's another link of two that had to be shot
Love and Murder Among the Chimps - New York Times
This one is about 'Ollie' who's owner had to get rid of him when he tryed to mate with her.
Oliver the Humanzee - Pilkipedia
I saw a documenatry on 'Ollie' and he pestered his owner for sex. Not surprising when you think a male of a species very close to mans insincts is alone with no other chimp company or a mate. In the doc, Ollie started to become quite aggresive with her when she naturally refused his advances.
This could be the reason the chimp mauled this woman. If he tried mating with her and it got nasty, he would still have his Chimpanzee trait to murder what he thought was one of his own.
I don't know, just my thoughts.
That's interesting. One TV report stated in this case this woman bathe with the chimp and also slept with him. I thought that was a bit weird, but I sure didn't think anything sexual about it -- at the time................
"Out, damned spot! out, I say!"
- William Shakespeare, Macbeth, 5.1
Ownership of exotic pets
to me, no one should be allowed to own these pets.
I love and cherish all animals, but they are wild.
They should be treated with respect.
no matter how tame you think they might be, they can for various reasons turn on you....it's just their instinct....they have no idea who you really are....as they are wild.
I wish people would reverse the situation, how would you feel if an ape owned you?
or a tiger?
A friend of mine many years ago worked at our zoo her, she became friendly with one of the tigers, she fed him everyday and worked with him....one day while she fed him...her arm was inside the cage as normal......but this time the tiger tore off her arm.
It was tragic for her.
but this was not the tigers fault.........
leave the animals alone!:-5:-5
I love and cherish all animals, but they are wild.
They should be treated with respect.
no matter how tame you think they might be, they can for various reasons turn on you....it's just their instinct....they have no idea who you really are....as they are wild.
I wish people would reverse the situation, how would you feel if an ape owned you?
or a tiger?
A friend of mine many years ago worked at our zoo her, she became friendly with one of the tigers, she fed him everyday and worked with him....one day while she fed him...her arm was inside the cage as normal......but this time the tiger tore off her arm.
It was tragic for her.
but this was not the tigers fault.........
leave the animals alone!:-5:-5
Life is just to short for drama.
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Kindle;1140524 wrote: That's interesting. One TV report stated in this case this woman bathe with the chimp and also slept with him. I thought that was a bit weird, but I sure didn't think anything sexual about it -- at the time................ It's a thought isn't it? Also, I remember how Michael jackson loved Bubbles his chimp and took him everywhere. Suddenly you never saw Bubbles again. Knowing Jacko he loved that animal and maybe Bubbles did the same to Jacko and why he suddenly dumped him.
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Odie;1140530 wrote: to me, no one should be allowed to own these pets.
I love and cherish all animals, but they are wild.
They should be treated with respect.
no matter how tame you think they might be, they can for various reasons turn on you....it's just their instinct....they have no idea who you really are....as they are wild.
I wish people would reverse the situation, how would you feel if an ape owned you?
or a tiger?
A friend of mine many years ago worked at our zoo her, she became friendly with one of the tigers, she fed him everyday and worked with him....one day while she fed him...her arm was inside the cage as normal......but this time the tiger tore off her arm.
It was tragic for her.
but this was not the tigers fault.........
leave the animals alone!:-5:-5 I totally agree. Even in zoo's there is the danger the wild instinct will take over them. We had a guy here called 'John Aspinall' who had tigers. Evently he was mauled to death by one. He used to brag how close he was to them and how he could play and romp with them without any danger. Well one killed him.
Wasn't 'Joy Adamson' the woman who the film 'Born free' was about end up being mauled to death by one of her lions?
I love and cherish all animals, but they are wild.
They should be treated with respect.
no matter how tame you think they might be, they can for various reasons turn on you....it's just their instinct....they have no idea who you really are....as they are wild.
I wish people would reverse the situation, how would you feel if an ape owned you?
or a tiger?
A friend of mine many years ago worked at our zoo her, she became friendly with one of the tigers, she fed him everyday and worked with him....one day while she fed him...her arm was inside the cage as normal......but this time the tiger tore off her arm.
It was tragic for her.
but this was not the tigers fault.........
leave the animals alone!:-5:-5 I totally agree. Even in zoo's there is the danger the wild instinct will take over them. We had a guy here called 'John Aspinall' who had tigers. Evently he was mauled to death by one. He used to brag how close he was to them and how he could play and romp with them without any danger. Well one killed him.
Wasn't 'Joy Adamson' the woman who the film 'Born free' was about end up being mauled to death by one of her lions?
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
Ownership of exotic pets
oscar;1140532 wrote: It's a thought isn't it? Also, I remember how Michael jackson loved Bubbles his chimp and took him everywhere. Suddenly you never saw Bubbles again. Knowing Jacko he loved that animal and maybe Bubbles did the same to Jacko and why he suddenly dumped him.
That's right! I forgot about him.....................
That's right! I forgot about him.....................
"Out, damned spot! out, I say!"
- William Shakespeare, Macbeth, 5.1
Ownership of exotic pets
oscar;1140533 wrote: I totally agree. Even in zoo's there is the danger the wild instinct will take over them. We had a guy here called 'John Aspinall' who had tigers. Evently he was mauled to death by one. He used to brag how close he was to them and how he could play and romp with them without any danger. Well one killed him.
Wasn't 'Joy Adamson' the woman who the film 'Born free' was about end up being mauled to death by one of her lions?
-Joy Adamson starred in Born Free, but she was murdered, actually they both were, how sad.
Wikipedia: George Adamson
George Adamson (3 February 1906 - 20 August 1989), the "Baba ya Simba" ("Father of Lions") of Africa,[1] was one of the founding fathers of wildlife conservation and an author. He and his wife Joy Adamson are best known through the book and film Born Free, which is based on the true story of Elsa, an orphaned lioness cub they raised and later released into the wild.
Adamson was born in Dholpur, Rajasthan, India (then British India). He first visited Kenya in 1924. After a series of adventures, which included time as a gold prospector, he joined Kenya's game department in 1938 and was Senior Game Warden of the Northern Frontier District. Six years later he married Joy. It was in 1956 that he came to have Elsa the lioness who would gain world fame and affection.
George Adamson retired as a game warden in 1961 and devoted himself to his many lions. In 1970, he moved to the Kora National Reserve in northern Kenya to continue the rehabilitation of captive or orphaned big cats for eventual reintroduction into the wild. George and Joy separated in 1970, but continued to spend Christmas together until she was murdered on January 3rd, 1980.
On 20 August 1989, the 83-year-old Adamson was shot to death at Kora Reserve by Somalian bandits when he went to the aid of a tourist. He is buried at the reserve next to the lion Boy.
Wasn't 'Joy Adamson' the woman who the film 'Born free' was about end up being mauled to death by one of her lions?
-Joy Adamson starred in Born Free, but she was murdered, actually they both were, how sad.
Wikipedia: George Adamson
George Adamson (3 February 1906 - 20 August 1989), the "Baba ya Simba" ("Father of Lions") of Africa,[1] was one of the founding fathers of wildlife conservation and an author. He and his wife Joy Adamson are best known through the book and film Born Free, which is based on the true story of Elsa, an orphaned lioness cub they raised and later released into the wild.
Adamson was born in Dholpur, Rajasthan, India (then British India). He first visited Kenya in 1924. After a series of adventures, which included time as a gold prospector, he joined Kenya's game department in 1938 and was Senior Game Warden of the Northern Frontier District. Six years later he married Joy. It was in 1956 that he came to have Elsa the lioness who would gain world fame and affection.
George Adamson retired as a game warden in 1961 and devoted himself to his many lions. In 1970, he moved to the Kora National Reserve in northern Kenya to continue the rehabilitation of captive or orphaned big cats for eventual reintroduction into the wild. George and Joy separated in 1970, but continued to spend Christmas together until she was murdered on January 3rd, 1980.
On 20 August 1989, the 83-year-old Adamson was shot to death at Kora Reserve by Somalian bandits when he went to the aid of a tourist. He is buried at the reserve next to the lion Boy.
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Odie;1140535 wrote: -Joy Adamson starred in Born Free, but she was murdered, actually they both were, how sad.
Wikipedia: George Adamson
George Adamson (3 February 1906 - 20 August 1989), the "Baba ya Simba" ("Father of Lions") of Africa,[1] was one of the founding fathers of wildlife conservation and an author. He and his wife Joy Adamson are best known through the book and film Born Free, which is based on the true story of Elsa, an orphaned lioness cub they raised and later released into the wild.
Adamson was born in Dholpur, Rajasthan, India (then British India). He first visited Kenya in 1924. After a series of adventures, which included time as a gold prospector, he joined Kenya's game department in 1938 and was Senior Game Warden of the Northern Frontier District. Six years later he married Joy. It was in 1956 that he came to have Elsa the lioness who would gain world fame and affection.
George Adamson retired as a game warden in 1961 and devoted himself to his many lions. In 1970, he moved to the Kora National Reserve in northern Kenya to continue the rehabilitation of captive or orphaned big cats for eventual reintroduction into the wild. George and Joy separated in 1970, but continued to spend Christmas together until she was murdered on January 3rd, 1980.
On 20 August 1989, the 83-year-old Adamson was shot to death at Kora Reserve by Somalian bandits when he went to the aid of a tourist. He is buried at the reserve next to the lion Boy. Thanks Odie.... I can remember she was killed but i thought it was a lion. That's just suddenly whisked me back to the 60's, sitting in the cinema with my dad watching Born Free as a little kid. I remember to this day the bit where 'Elsa' the Lion dissapears and she's heartbroken. She waits and waits for her but no sign and then one day she appears and brings her cubs to Joy Adams for her to see. I cried so much :wah:
There is a charity in Britain and i know America has got one that gets chimps that have been kept as pets and ill treated out and into a reserve.
Wikipedia: George Adamson
George Adamson (3 February 1906 - 20 August 1989), the "Baba ya Simba" ("Father of Lions") of Africa,[1] was one of the founding fathers of wildlife conservation and an author. He and his wife Joy Adamson are best known through the book and film Born Free, which is based on the true story of Elsa, an orphaned lioness cub they raised and later released into the wild.
Adamson was born in Dholpur, Rajasthan, India (then British India). He first visited Kenya in 1924. After a series of adventures, which included time as a gold prospector, he joined Kenya's game department in 1938 and was Senior Game Warden of the Northern Frontier District. Six years later he married Joy. It was in 1956 that he came to have Elsa the lioness who would gain world fame and affection.
George Adamson retired as a game warden in 1961 and devoted himself to his many lions. In 1970, he moved to the Kora National Reserve in northern Kenya to continue the rehabilitation of captive or orphaned big cats for eventual reintroduction into the wild. George and Joy separated in 1970, but continued to spend Christmas together until she was murdered on January 3rd, 1980.
On 20 August 1989, the 83-year-old Adamson was shot to death at Kora Reserve by Somalian bandits when he went to the aid of a tourist. He is buried at the reserve next to the lion Boy. Thanks Odie.... I can remember she was killed but i thought it was a lion. That's just suddenly whisked me back to the 60's, sitting in the cinema with my dad watching Born Free as a little kid. I remember to this day the bit where 'Elsa' the Lion dissapears and she's heartbroken. She waits and waits for her but no sign and then one day she appears and brings her cubs to Joy Adams for her to see. I cried so much :wah:
There is a charity in Britain and i know America has got one that gets chimps that have been kept as pets and ill treated out and into a reserve.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
Ownership of exotic pets
oscar;1140542 wrote: Thanks Odie.... I can remember she was killed but i thought it was a lion. That's just suddenly whisked me back to the 60's, sitting in the cinema with my dad watching Born Free as a little kid. I remember to this day the bit where 'Elsa' the Lion dissapears and she's heartbroken. She waits and waits for her but no sign and then one day she appears and brings her cubs to Joy Adams for her to see. I cried so much :wah:
There is a charity in Britain and i know America has got one that gets chimps that have been kept as pets and ill treated out and into a reserve.
took me back to as I was googling so much, god that movie was so touching, and they helped the lions in the reserve so much.
I was so shocked that people like this who care so much for their lions and did so much everyday for them, and they were both murdered.:-1
seems more and more, the good die young.
There is a charity in Britain and i know America has got one that gets chimps that have been kept as pets and ill treated out and into a reserve.
took me back to as I was googling so much, god that movie was so touching, and they helped the lions in the reserve so much.
I was so shocked that people like this who care so much for their lions and did so much everyday for them, and they were both murdered.:-1
seems more and more, the good die young.
Life is just to short for drama.
Ownership of exotic pets
has anyone seen Christian?
Each time I watch this, it bring tears of happiness.
watch the entire video.
YouTube - Christian the lion
Each time I watch this, it bring tears of happiness.
watch the entire video.
YouTube - Christian the lion
Life is just to short for drama.
Ownership of exotic pets
One of the recent 'fads' of crossing dogs with wolves suggests wolves and dogs are essentially the same because they share so much genetic material. (98.4%) of the genetic material in humans and chimpanzees is identical, but our behaviors are totally different, same with wolves & dogs.
Maybe the people playing god with wolves & dogs might like to start crossing humans with chimps to calm the chimps down. Grrrr people owning exotic pets get right up my nose, the majority of them have no clue what they are getting into.
Maybe the people playing god with wolves & dogs might like to start crossing humans with chimps to calm the chimps down. Grrrr people owning exotic pets get right up my nose, the majority of them have no clue what they are getting into.