oscar;1140280 wrote: Given the amount of times i have been aspersed, most of FG members would look to their defences at some time or another based on that theory. Don't be so chuffy.
Number of times. Times is a whole number with no fraction. Amounts are of approximated real numbers.
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spot;1140287 wrote: Number of times. Times is a whole number with no fraction. Amounts are of approximated real numbers. I don't care enough to want to try to find out :wah: I'm surprised you care either.
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spot;1139919 wrote: That's completely inaccurate. A marriage voids all previous wills and the husband inherits everything if she fails to make another before dying. Even if she does make one she has to make sufficient provision for the lifetime needs of her husband, given that he was financially dependent on her before her death, before any can go to her children.
Many people think that. In fact it's wrong.
It's from a lawyer's web site-first one I came across but it is clear.
CCH Solicitors - Rules of Intestacy
Many people believe that it is not necessary to make a Will if they want to leave everything to their husband or wife, because the spouse will get everything anyway. However, this is not necessarily the case. The only situations in which a surviving spouse will automatically inherit everything are:
The estate is worth less than £125,000 where there are children or £200,000 if there are no children (this includes everything: house, money, insurance, personal possessions etc)
There are absolutely no living blood relatives
Slightly more up to date version might make it a bit clearer-easier to read.
http://www.contactinsurance.co.uk/rules ... estacy.pdf
If she takes good legal advice she can make sure her husband has little say or control over how the money is used. The other common misconception is that a common law partner is entitled to a share of anything. Maybe she will get people writing wills as well.
posted by spot
I haven't opened it, I merely note that it isn't about inheritance law in England and Wales and I've been aspersed.
She's a Daily Mail reader spot, make allowances. It's funny how those who are most disparaging of programmes like big brother and the reality culture surrounding the likes of jade Goody are able to disparage in a manner that makes it clear they are both avid watchers and readers of said reality programmes and articles.
Personally I can safely say I have not read a single article about Jade Goody.(well OK I read that link) I don't read OK magazine- unless in desperation for anything else to read in the dentist waiting room-or any other of the reality rags.
As to those who insist she should just die quietly. It's her choice and no one else's. Next they'll complain about her lowering the tone of the cemetery and want her in an unmarked grave.
Many people think that. In fact it's wrong.
It's from a lawyer's web site-first one I came across but it is clear.
CCH Solicitors - Rules of Intestacy
Many people believe that it is not necessary to make a Will if they want to leave everything to their husband or wife, because the spouse will get everything anyway. However, this is not necessarily the case. The only situations in which a surviving spouse will automatically inherit everything are:
The estate is worth less than £125,000 where there are children or £200,000 if there are no children (this includes everything: house, money, insurance, personal possessions etc)
There are absolutely no living blood relatives
Slightly more up to date version might make it a bit clearer-easier to read.
http://www.contactinsurance.co.uk/rules ... estacy.pdf
If she takes good legal advice she can make sure her husband has little say or control over how the money is used. The other common misconception is that a common law partner is entitled to a share of anything. Maybe she will get people writing wills as well.
posted by spot
I haven't opened it, I merely note that it isn't about inheritance law in England and Wales and I've been aspersed.
She's a Daily Mail reader spot, make allowances. It's funny how those who are most disparaging of programmes like big brother and the reality culture surrounding the likes of jade Goody are able to disparage in a manner that makes it clear they are both avid watchers and readers of said reality programmes and articles.
Personally I can safely say I have not read a single article about Jade Goody.(well OK I read that link) I don't read OK magazine- unless in desperation for anything else to read in the dentist waiting room-or any other of the reality rags.
As to those who insist she should just die quietly. It's her choice and no one else's. Next they'll complain about her lowering the tone of the cemetery and want her in an unmarked grave.
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gmc;1140591 wrote: Many people think that. In fact it's wrong.
It's from a lawyer's web site-first one I came across but it is clear.
CCH Solicitors - Rules of Intestacy
Yes, the details do allow some to the children but for the lifetime of the spouse the spouse has the use of the majority of the estate and the children only have access to the lesser portion. The spouse can't leave the remaining capital to anyone but them but he has to die before they see it.
It's from a lawyer's web site-first one I came across but it is clear.
CCH Solicitors - Rules of Intestacy
Yes, the details do allow some to the children but for the lifetime of the spouse the spouse has the use of the majority of the estate and the children only have access to the lesser portion. The spouse can't leave the remaining capital to anyone but them but he has to die before they see it.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left. ... Hold no regard for unsupported opinion.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1140634 wrote: Yes, the details do allow some to the children but for the lifetime of the spouse the spouse has the use of the majority of the estate and the children only have access to the lesser portion. The spouse can't leave the remaining capital to anyone but them but he has to die before they see it.
Spouse/civil partner
gets £125,000*
and a life interest in half
the remainder. Children
get the rest (*£250,000
from 1 February 2009
The spouse only gets a life interest in half the remainder and they get the balance when he dies.
Life interest or life rent
In England and Wales people have a life interest or in Scotland a life rent in a trust if they have an interest for the duration of their life. A person may have a life interest or a life rent in the
* capital or
* real or heritable property, such as an house of the trust
people will receive income from capital if they have a life interest or life rent in it
for example a person has a life interest or life rent in the
* income if the terms of a trust say a person can have the interest paid on the funds of the trust for life or
* property if the terms of the trust say a person has the right to live in it for life.
Your misconception was that the husband would be entitled to everything. He isn't.
That's completely inaccurate. A marriage voids all previous wills and the husband inherits everything if she fails to make another before dying. Even if she does make one she has to make sufficient provision for the lifetime needs of her husband, given that he was financially dependent on her before her death, before any can go to her children.
These are the intestacy rules that would apply if she makes no will. The other misconception is that marriage negates the will, it doesn't. As spouse he could challenge the will and would be entitled to part of the estate. But only another will will negate one already in existence and only if it has been lodged properly. having one behind the clock on the mantelpiece doesn't work.
She can't leave him destitute (works both ways and remember it used to be women couldn't inherit and they brought in a law to prevent a widow and children being left destitute on the death of a husband by a male relative, If you watched pride and prejudice the problem the Bennetts had was that the females could not inherit the estate and would be penniless if the male relative decided to throw them out).
So if you've remarried and not bothered changing your will you may have a problem.
Besides these are the intestacy rules that would apply if she doesn't make a will or take other steps to provide for her children. It's unlikely she would not be taking legal advice.
Spouse/civil partner
gets £125,000*
and a life interest in half
the remainder. Children
get the rest (*£250,000
from 1 February 2009
The spouse only gets a life interest in half the remainder and they get the balance when he dies.
Life interest or life rent
In England and Wales people have a life interest or in Scotland a life rent in a trust if they have an interest for the duration of their life. A person may have a life interest or a life rent in the
* capital or
* real or heritable property, such as an house of the trust
people will receive income from capital if they have a life interest or life rent in it
for example a person has a life interest or life rent in the
* income if the terms of a trust say a person can have the interest paid on the funds of the trust for life or
* property if the terms of the trust say a person has the right to live in it for life.
Your misconception was that the husband would be entitled to everything. He isn't.
That's completely inaccurate. A marriage voids all previous wills and the husband inherits everything if she fails to make another before dying. Even if she does make one she has to make sufficient provision for the lifetime needs of her husband, given that he was financially dependent on her before her death, before any can go to her children.
These are the intestacy rules that would apply if she makes no will. The other misconception is that marriage negates the will, it doesn't. As spouse he could challenge the will and would be entitled to part of the estate. But only another will will negate one already in existence and only if it has been lodged properly. having one behind the clock on the mantelpiece doesn't work.
She can't leave him destitute (works both ways and remember it used to be women couldn't inherit and they brought in a law to prevent a widow and children being left destitute on the death of a husband by a male relative, If you watched pride and prejudice the problem the Bennetts had was that the females could not inherit the estate and would be penniless if the male relative decided to throw them out).
So if you've remarried and not bothered changing your will you may have a problem.
Besides these are the intestacy rules that would apply if she doesn't make a will or take other steps to provide for her children. It's unlikely she would not be taking legal advice.
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gmc;1140591 wrote:
She's a Daily Mail reader spot, make allowances. It's funny how those who are most disparaging of programmes like big brother and the reality culture surrounding the likes of jade Goody are able to disparage in a manner that makes it clear they are both avid watchers and readers of said reality programmes and articles.
Personally I can safely say I have not read a single article about Jade Goody.(well OK I read that link) I don't read OK magazine- unless in desperation for anything else to read in the dentist waiting room-or any other of the reality rags.
As to those who insist she should just die quietly. It's her choice and no one else's. Next they'll complain about her lowering the tone of the cemetery and want her in an unmarked grave.
Don't you start.
I have never said that i have not watched BB. To put the record straight, I watched the BB with Jade the first time and never watched it again. I happened to see a few episodes of CBB with the 'Shilpa Shetty' row. Unfortunately my husband is a 'Sun' Reader and it's delivered to the house, so i have read a fair bit on Jade since she was diagnosed. I read about Jade because i actually manted to see how she was progressing. I have said in this thread that my heart goes out to her and her two boys. I believe she is being taken advantage of by her mother, boyfriend and a waiting press who didn't want to know her before. That is a lot better thaan the rancid comments from Spot on the woman several posts back.
Posted by Spot
The best I can hope for this dreadful blight of a woman is that Jack Tweed's parole gets revoked before the weekend and that, in an unexpected onset of goodwill and discrete reticence, the entire British press together with all the TV and radio channels never mention her name again. We can either have a return of civilized values in this country or we can have more publicity for Jane Goody, we can't have both.
She's a Daily Mail reader spot, make allowances. It's funny how those who are most disparaging of programmes like big brother and the reality culture surrounding the likes of jade Goody are able to disparage in a manner that makes it clear they are both avid watchers and readers of said reality programmes and articles.
Personally I can safely say I have not read a single article about Jade Goody.(well OK I read that link) I don't read OK magazine- unless in desperation for anything else to read in the dentist waiting room-or any other of the reality rags.
As to those who insist she should just die quietly. It's her choice and no one else's. Next they'll complain about her lowering the tone of the cemetery and want her in an unmarked grave.
Don't you start.
I have never said that i have not watched BB. To put the record straight, I watched the BB with Jade the first time and never watched it again. I happened to see a few episodes of CBB with the 'Shilpa Shetty' row. Unfortunately my husband is a 'Sun' Reader and it's delivered to the house, so i have read a fair bit on Jade since she was diagnosed. I read about Jade because i actually manted to see how she was progressing. I have said in this thread that my heart goes out to her and her two boys. I believe she is being taken advantage of by her mother, boyfriend and a waiting press who didn't want to know her before. That is a lot better thaan the rancid comments from Spot on the woman several posts back.
Posted by Spot
The best I can hope for this dreadful blight of a woman is that Jack Tweed's parole gets revoked before the weekend and that, in an unexpected onset of goodwill and discrete reticence, the entire British press together with all the TV and radio channels never mention her name again. We can either have a return of civilized values in this country or we can have more publicity for Jane Goody, we can't have both.
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posted by oscar
Don't you start.
I have never said that i have not watched BB. To put the record straight, I watched the BB with Jade the first time and never watched it again. I happened to see a few episodes of CBB with the 'Shilpa Shetty' row. Unfortunately my husband is a 'Sun' Reader and it's delivered to the house, so i have read a fair bit on Jade since she was diagnosed. I read about Jade because i actually manted to see how she was progressing. I have said in this thread that my heart goes out to her and her two boys. I believe she is being taken advantage of by her mother, boyfriend and a waiting press who didn't want to know her before. That is a lot better thaan the rancid comments from Spot on the woman several posts back.
The daily mail and the sun???:eek::eek:
Note to self (I must not be rude, I must not be rude:yh_rotfl)
Incidentally I was having a dig at spot. He obviously knew who her fiancée was and that he was out on parole which rather suggests he was following her story.
What is this all about this hate fest-is it a class thing that a semi-literate girl from a deprived background should dare to become a celebrity rising above her station to fame and fortune?
As to a return to civilised values if that means glorying in someone getting their comeuppance and wanting them to go away and die peacefully out of sight then I don't think much of them. Wishing she was dead just so you don't have to read about her is pathetic. Just don't read about her and don't listen to the TV when it's talking about her.
Don't you start.
I have never said that i have not watched BB. To put the record straight, I watched the BB with Jade the first time and never watched it again. I happened to see a few episodes of CBB with the 'Shilpa Shetty' row. Unfortunately my husband is a 'Sun' Reader and it's delivered to the house, so i have read a fair bit on Jade since she was diagnosed. I read about Jade because i actually manted to see how she was progressing. I have said in this thread that my heart goes out to her and her two boys. I believe she is being taken advantage of by her mother, boyfriend and a waiting press who didn't want to know her before. That is a lot better thaan the rancid comments from Spot on the woman several posts back.
The daily mail and the sun???:eek::eek:
Note to self (I must not be rude, I must not be rude:yh_rotfl)
Incidentally I was having a dig at spot. He obviously knew who her fiancée was and that he was out on parole which rather suggests he was following her story.
What is this all about this hate fest-is it a class thing that a semi-literate girl from a deprived background should dare to become a celebrity rising above her station to fame and fortune?
As to a return to civilised values if that means glorying in someone getting their comeuppance and wanting them to go away and die peacefully out of sight then I don't think much of them. Wishing she was dead just so you don't have to read about her is pathetic. Just don't read about her and don't listen to the TV when it's talking about her.
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gmc;1140854 wrote: posted by oscar
The daily mail and the sun???:eek::eek:
Note to self (I must not be rude, I must not be rude:yh_rotfl)
Incidentally I was having a dig at spot. He obviously knew who her fiancée was and that he was out on parole which rather suggests he was following her story.
What is this all about this hate fest-is it a class thing that a semi-literate girl from a deprived background should dare to become a celebrity rising above her station to fame and fortune?
As to a return to civilised values if that means glorying in someone getting their comeuppance and wanting them to go away and die peacefully out of sight then I don't think much of them. Wishing she was dead just so you don't have to read about her is pathetic. Just don't read about her and don't listen to the TV when it's talking about her. Well I was shocked at Spot's post and i hope it was sarcasm and not real ill-will.
It's hard to avoid the woman with her on the front page of the Sun every day and i admit, i think she should die in privicy. A lot of my venom in this thread has been directed at the likes of 'Clifford'. However, if even one woman is saved from this cancer and a similar fate due to her publicity, then it won't be a bad thing.
Your right about the inheritence laws. I had to make a new will when i married Mr O some years back.
The daily mail and the sun???:eek::eek:
Note to self (I must not be rude, I must not be rude:yh_rotfl)
Incidentally I was having a dig at spot. He obviously knew who her fiancée was and that he was out on parole which rather suggests he was following her story.
What is this all about this hate fest-is it a class thing that a semi-literate girl from a deprived background should dare to become a celebrity rising above her station to fame and fortune?
As to a return to civilised values if that means glorying in someone getting their comeuppance and wanting them to go away and die peacefully out of sight then I don't think much of them. Wishing she was dead just so you don't have to read about her is pathetic. Just don't read about her and don't listen to the TV when it's talking about her. Well I was shocked at Spot's post and i hope it was sarcasm and not real ill-will.
It's hard to avoid the woman with her on the front page of the Sun every day and i admit, i think she should die in privicy. A lot of my venom in this thread has been directed at the likes of 'Clifford'. However, if even one woman is saved from this cancer and a similar fate due to her publicity, then it won't be a bad thing.
Your right about the inheritence laws. I had to make a new will when i married Mr O some years back.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon